Politico-GWU poll: Race still a virtual dead heat

posted at 9:21 am on September 24, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Politico headlines their analysis of their latest Battleground Poll with GWU by claiming that “President Obama pulls ahead of Mitt Romney,” but only within the margin of error.  At 50/47 among likely voters, it’s mildly good news for Obama, especially by reaching the 50% mark that had eluded him in previous iterations of the poll.  However, in a sample of just over 800 likely voters in a national poll, the survey confirms that the race is more or less static heading into the debates:

President Barack Obama has opened a national lead in a tight race that’s been static for much of the year.

A new POLITICO/George Washington University Battleground Poll of likely voters finds little good news for Mitt Romney but a race that remains competitive.

Obama leads 50 percent to 47 percent, which is within the margin of error. His 50 percent job approval rating puts him at a crucial threshold for an incumbent seeking reelection. It’s an uptick from the spring and summer, but 48 percent still disapprove.

Romney, meanwhile, finds himself sliding in the wake of two events — the choice of his running mate and the Republican national convention — that were supposed to buoy his candidacy. His unfavorable rating ticked up from 46 percent to 49 percent over the past seven weeks, as the share viewing him favorably held steady at 46 percent. Personal likability boosts the president, who is viewed favorably by 53 percent.

The survey was conducted by a bipartisan team of pollsters, with widely divergent views of the data.  Democratic pollster Celinda Lake pointed to the favorability change and claimed Romney is “in deep, deep trouble,” which is the problem when partisans poll.  A shift from 46% to 49% over seven weeks is statistical noise, within the margin of error and basically meaningless.

Republican pollster Ed Goeas gives a different take, after noting that the difference between this poll and the BG survey from seven weeks ago was a one-half-percent shift toward Obama:

The past several weeks have been filled with news stories, editorials and columns heaping criticism on the tactics and strategy of the Romney campaign.  Many of these opinion pieces even suggested that Romney’s only hope for winning is to make substantial changes to his campaign.  Much of this analysis is based on the premise that Romney is out of touch and has not been making an affirmative case to middle-class voters. His comments at a private fundraiser in May were pointed to as an illustration that he could never identify with and win the support of many middle-class voters.  We took a special look at middle-class voters, and middle-class families in particular, in this latest POLITICO-George Washington University Battleground Poll and found that not to be the case. In fact, on every measure it is Romney who is winning the battle for the support of middle-class families.

Overall, Obama leads Romney by just 3 points on the ballot (50 percent to 47 percent) – which before we rounded up, is actually a 2.6 point lead and only up a half-a-percentage point from the 2.1 point lead for Obama in our last Battleground poll in early August.  In our latest POLITICO-George Washington University Battleground Poll with middle-class families, which comprise about 54 percent of the total American electorate and usually split in their vote behavior between Republicans and Democrats, Romney holds a 14-point advantage (55 percent to 41 percent).  Middle-class families are more inclined to believe the country is on the wrong track (34 percent right direction, 62 percent wrong track), are more likely to hold an unfavorable view of Obama (48 percent favorable, 51 percent unfavorable), and hold a more favorable view of Romney (51 percent favorable, 44 percent unfavorable) and Paul Ryan (46 percent favorable, 35 percent unfavorable) than the overall electorate.  These middle-class families also hold a majority disapproval rating on the job Obama is doing as president (45 percent approve, 54 percent disapprove), and turn even more negative toward  Obama on specific areas; the economy 56 percent disapprove; spending 61 percent disapprove; taxes, 53 percent disapprove; Medicare 48 percent disapprove; and even foreign policy 50 percent disapprove.

All of this data make clear that Romney has won the strong support of middle-class families and is leading the president on an overwhelming majority of key measurements beyond just the ballot.  In fact, when respondents were asked who, Obama or Romney, would best handle a variety of issues, Romney led on all but one including the economy (+9 percent), foreign policy (+3 percent), spending (+15 percent), taxes (+7 percent), Medicare (+2 percent), and jobs (+10 percent).  Ironically, the one measurement Obama led Romney on was “standing up for the middle class” (+8 Obama), reinforcing that often the Democrats win the message war with the middle class, but not their hearts and souls.

For those wondering, the sample in this poll is actually pretty decent.  The D/R/I is 34/31/33 without leaners, 43/40/15 with leaners.  That’s a defensible turnout model for the election; D+3 would be just about in the middle from 2008′s D+7 and 2010′s even turnout.

Otherwise, there are a few interesting points from the extensive internals published from the survey.  First, Romney is leading by 2 among independents, 46/44, which Obama won by 8 in 2008.  The gender gap favored Obama by 14 in his last election (+13 among women, +1 among men), but he’s down to a +4 in this poll; Romney wins men by 6, 51/45, while Obama wins women by 10, 53/43.  Romney wins married voters by 14 points, 55/41, and wins married women by five at 51/46, but trails among the single and divorced in both genders by wide margins.  Romney is doing better in McCain states from 2008 (60/37) than Obama is in states he won in 2008 (54/42).  Romney’s also winning ticket splitters by 10, 48/38.

One more data point: Despite a poll that came out last week, this survey shows Romney winning the Catholic vote by eight points, 51/43, but the Baptist vote by only one point, 49/48.  The Catholic vote has been a pretty clear bellwether in American elections over the last several decades.  If Obama is losing independents and Catholics and is only down to a +4 gender gap, the road to victory looks pretty narrow indeed.


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(b) Romney’s vacant-eyed line delivered on 60 minutes where he said his campaign was “doing fine” and that he was very proud of them and stuff. Both A and B are redolent of the Führerbunker-fantasy that Steiner’s Army Detachment Steiner will save Berlin. Just hold the line! The debates will save us.

Come on, Romney is too smart to believe this “doing fine” bs. He knows perfectly well how far behind he is.
Regarding the debates – they helped Kerry to narrow the gap. Of course, the MSM will proclaim the One the huge winner in the debate, no matter what, so it’s not 2004 all over again.

buridan on September 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM


2. The healthcare bill is a good idea.

Yes, because Obama’s model of reform brought great prosperity to the state of MA. Oh, wait, no it didn’t. It’s a spiralling fiscal nightmare of an entitlement. That it was birthed into this world by a faux-Republican only makes it that much worse.

casuist on September 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM

You have to wonder why some such as this would spend all their time here effectively campaigning for the Decline of the nation that will be the result of the dear liar’s reign.

Chip on September 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Anybody who votes for Obama is either a deluded fool or someone with skin in the game who will directly gain — or who believes they will directly gain — from his re-election.

There really are too many voters who just don’t understand the breadth of destruction to our nation that four more years of this seditionist dictator wannabe will bring about.

Right Mover on September 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM


Come on, Romney is too smart to believe this “doing fine” bs. He knows perfectly well how far behind he is.

Regarding the debates – they helped Kerry to narrow the gap. Of course, the MSM will proclaim the One the huge winner in the debate, no matter what, so it’s not 2004 all over again.

I can concede both points. But for me the needle still tilts to fade as opposed to Romney making an honest fight of it.

casuist on September 24, 2012 at 12:33 PM


There really are too many voters who just don’t understand the breadth of destruction to our nation that four more years of this seditionist dictator wannabe will bring about.

I hear you. If only our party hadn’t failed in its primary function of selecting and grooming competitive candidates. Romney is non-competitive nationally. He was non-competitive in his own state. He would never have won re-election in MA.

It’s pointless to blame the voters.

casuist on September 24, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Why are you a Downgrade supporter?

Chip on September 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM

1. Supreme Court
2. The healthcare bill is a good idea.

libfreeordie on September 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM

1. Supreme Court

So, you want most of our liberties destroyed?

2. The healthcare bill is a good idea.

And you want the healthcare system destroyed?

Just what makes you think that Downgrade’s version of national socialism is going to work when it’s failed each and every time it’s been tried?

Chip on September 24, 2012 at 12:37 PM

You have to wonder why some such as this would spend all their time here effectively campaigning for the Decline of the nation that will be the result of the dear liar’s reign.

Chip on September 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Anybody who votes for Obama is either a deluded fool or someone with skin in the game who will directly gain — or who believes they will directly gain — from his re-election.

There really are too many voters who just don’t understand the breadth of destruction to our nation that four more years of this seditionist dictator wannabe will bring about.

Right Mover on September 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM

It’s very hard to believe that someone who is supposedly ‘independent’ etc. would spend a lot of time defending Downgrade’s destruction and decline of the nation without some sort of incentive to do so.

Chip on September 24, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Why are you a Downgrade supporter?

Chip on September 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM
1. Supreme Court
2. The healthcare bill is a good idea.

libfreeordie on September 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM

So Libfree favors the idea of destroying our economy in the name of providing an inferior quality of health care administered by a smaller, less qualified group of medical personnel thanks to the massive defections from the profession as good doctors leave the field with no motivation to stay, and fewer students decide to pursue medical degrees because there will also be less motivation to do so.
Not to mention the overcrowding in waiting rooms and the lengthy waiting lists for procedures that will also result.

Libfree can’t explain, though, why if the healthcare bill is so damn good, why Obama has granted so many waivers from it, and why Congress exempted itself it.

Right Mover on September 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Quit trying to reason with Libtard 4 life. Its like talking to a brick wall.

anchorman on September 24, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Poll oversamples Democrats by 7 points.

Romney is winning.

mitchellvii on September 24, 2012 at 9:35 AM

You sound like Charlie

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 24, 2012 at 12:44 PM

This is just in – NC poll by Civitas: O 49 – R 45.

http://www.nccivitas.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/September-Crosstabs-2.pdf

And Civitas, I think, is a GOP shop.

If this is anywhere close to correct, the 2008 blowout is on the menu.

buridan on September 24, 2012 at 12:48 PM

buridan

Never heard of them. NC is safe for Romney.

anchorman on September 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM

gumbyandpokey on September 24, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Referencing the same Nate Silver data that you selectively choose to concentrate on …

In the last four elections, comparing the September polling data versus the actual outcome, the following percentages moved from the incumbent party to the challenger party:
1996 6.0%
2000 0.9%
2004 2.1%
2008 4.7%

If one goes back to the Nixon and Reagan years, HUGE numbers changed their minds (assumes polling was accurate/unbiased).

Given the current small polling spread, anyone looking at the numbers from either side that thinks the concrete is set is blatantly ignorant or spewing moist air.

Carnac on September 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Why are you a Downgrade supporter?

Chip on September 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM

1. Supreme Court
2. The healthcare bill is a good idea.

libfreeordie on September 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM

So Libfree favors the idea of destroying our economy in the name of providing an inferior quality of health care administered by a smaller, less qualified group of medical personnel thanks to the massive defections from the profession as good doctors leave the field with no motivation to stay, and fewer students decide to pursue medical degrees because there will also be less motivation to do so.
Not to mention the overcrowding in waiting rooms and the lengthy waiting lists for procedures that will also result.

Libfree can’t explain, though, why if the healthcare bill is so damn good, why Obama has granted so many waivers from it, and why Congress exempted itself it.

Right Mover on September 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM

That’s about the size of it – you explained it better that I did.

Chip on September 24, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Never heard of them. NC is safe for Romney.

I think it’s 50-50 at this stage, 3 polls in a row show Romney behind in NC by 4, 2 and 4 points, respectively.
Probably, he is behind right now.
Not that it matters – if NC is even in play, then he is way behind in VA,OH, FL etc.

buridan on September 24, 2012 at 12:55 PM


Not that it matters – if NC is even in play, then he is way behind in VA,OH, FL etc.

But he saved the Olympics. Why can’t people understand that?

casuist on September 24, 2012 at 12:58 PM

North Carolina is NOT in play. Romney has it. Its safe.

Jack_Burton on September 24, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Seen those polls buridian. Major dem advantage that will now show up on election day. Romney will win NC.

anchorman on September 24, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Rasmussen also has it safe Romney. Karl Rove has it lean Romney. Romney will win the Tar Heel State!

anchorman on September 24, 2012 at 1:03 PM

OT

But needs passed on.

EPA conducting illegal human experiments.

See at
http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
third or so thread down there now

http://junkscience.com/
lead thread

Democrats are a clear and present danger to U.S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 24, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Libfreeordie, casuist, buridan, gumbeyandpokey …

Four Axel-trolls deployed on just this one thread this morning.

The SCOAMF’s internal polling HAS to be showing a Romney LANDSLIDE in the offing for them to be falling all over themselves trying to spin, spin, SPIN the bad news AWAY!

What is even more amazing is these trolls are DUMB enough to believe their poo flinging is being seen as anything other than a negative for the SCOAMF’s campaign.

PolAgnostic on September 24, 2012 at 1:10 PM

why is Axelrod’s Army taking up so much space here at HotAir? it must be because their guy is so far out in front…has to be.

right libfree, casuist, gumby?

DanMan on September 24, 2012 at 1:11 PM

PolAgnostic on September 24, 2012 at 1:10 PM

beat me by a few seconds but spot on

DanMan on September 24, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Libfree doesn’t have to explain how health care reform will destroy healthcare – all I know is that there will be a system for the rich and one for the not so rich – and therefore one where people die more often than in the other one – realizing of course eventually we all go – but when you are 65 and am diagnosed with cancer don’t expect much help from ObamaCare. But neither he or his fat cat friends will be covered by it – but Libree and his fellow trolls will be. I hope they enjoy the purgatory awaiting them. Myself – I will work to make sure I do not share their fate.

Zomcon JEM on September 24, 2012 at 1:20 PM

EPA conducting illegal human experiments.

See at
http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
third or so thread down there now

Democrats are a clear and present danger to U.S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 24, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Direct link

I hope this destroys them.

tom daschle concerned on September 24, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Come election day I expect a win by Romney by at least 1 to 5 points, barring a major catastrophe by either campaign that adjusts the spread upwards or downwards.

whatcat on September 24, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Quit trying to reason with Libtard 4 life. Its like talking to a brick wall.

anchorman on September 24, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Actually more like talking to a small house made of brick with a hole on the bottom.

Del Dolemonte on September 24, 2012 at 1:55 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 24, 2012 at 1:09 PM

tom daschle concerned on September 24, 2012 at 1:41 PM

holy shiz!!! that better land somebody in jail!

DanMan on September 24, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Four Axel-trolls deployed on just this one thread this morning.

Can you imagine how sweet it would be to actually get paid to amuse myself on here? In this one way, the paranoid weird world you inhabit does sound like a better place than the real one.

libfreeordie on September 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM

libfreeordie on September 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM

makes our laughing at you all the sweeter libfree

I have a question for you. Suppose you’re a dem voter in MA. You either love RomneyCare and want to keep it or you love Obama so much you’d rather trade RomneyCare for ObamaCare. How do you vote?

Of course if you hate RomneyCare you’re stuck being a dem that got what you asked for.

DanMan on September 24, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Four Axel-trolls deployed on just this one thread this morning.

Can you imagine how sweet it would be to actually get paid to amuse myself on here? In this one way, the paranoid weird world you inhabit does sound like a better place than the real one.

libfreeordie on September 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM


Always remember, dear readers, Reading Is Fundamental!

Because for those of you with reading comprehension skills (trolls having been excused from this part of testing) …

… nowhere was there any mention made of any of the four trolls being paid to troll.

PolAgnostic on September 24, 2012 at 2:38 PM

I think it’s 50-50 at this stage, 3 polls in a row show Romney behind in NC by 4, 2 and 4 points, respectively.
Probably, he is behind right now.
Not that it matters – if NC is even in play, then he is way behind in VA,OH, FL etc.

buridan on September 24, 2012 at 12:55 PM

You are a delusional fool… Every poll is oversampling democrats or now using the new trick of undersampling indpendents because they have been favoring Romney by a 5 points on average… The math shows Romney + 3 on average when you adjust the polls for a more realistic party breakdown that will show up on elections day…

mnjg on September 24, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Does asking a troll a question run them off? where you at libfree? pass my question along to Axelrod and get back to us.

DanMan on September 24, 2012 at 2:56 PM

To libfreeordie

The Mitt Romney rally in Denver was late for Colorado residents and it was on a Sunday night. There were a lot of pumped up people anxious to see Romney. While at the football game earlier in the day, it was interesting to overhear many people talking about how bad things are under Obama. I think Romney has an excellent chance in Colorado. This was a red state until 2008.

COgirl on September 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Can you imagine how sweet it would be to actually get paid to amuse myself on here?

libfreeordie on September 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM

No one wants to see you j&c# &ff.

itsspideyman on September 24, 2012 at 3:53 PM

buridan on September 24, 2012 at 12:55 PM

You are a delusional fool… Every poll is oversampling democrats or now using the new trick of undersampling indpendents because they have been favoring Romney by a 5 points on average… The math shows Romney + 3 on average when you adjust the polls for a more realistic party breakdown that will show up on elections day…

mnjg on September 24, 2012 at 2:41 PM

You are correct sir! An easy way to figure out who is in the lead is to look at who is attacking more. Obama and his minions hand down..which means their internals are showing them something else. The Candidate that is down must atack.

Natebo on September 24, 2012 at 4:23 PM

So basically this poll and all the others are saying… it depends on who votes.

Dem pollesters… and the ones that are trying to please the Whitehouse are deliberately trying to supress Republican votes.

But being ahead 2.6% with a D+ of 3… is once again a tie. Exactly a tie.

So it depends on who stays home and who goes out and votes. That is pretty much what they all say.

The thing Mitt has going for him is… he is right on all the issues.

The thing Barack has going for him… the media.

So which of these will win?

I say facts will win. But the stakes are so very high being wrong is a possibilty that makes me lose sleep.

The power of the media is shown in the approval number. There is no way any President’s approval should be going up with a debacle like the Middle East is right now… that is a disconnect between facts and media.

It has only been two weeks since the DNC convention… maybe there is still a bump from that.

Also, wouldn’t it be a valid weighting model to make the middle class 54% of the polling? Because that would be indicative of the actual results, if historically people in that income truly are 54% of those who vote… why wouldn’t that spell a blow out of historic portions!

But what do I know?

petunia on September 24, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Up is down

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2012 at 4:30 PM

***At 50/47 among likely voters, it’s mildly good news for Obama, especially by reaching the 50% mark that had eluded him in previous iterations of the poll. However, in a sample of just over 800 likely voters in a national poll, the survey confirms that the race is more or less static heading into the debates***

Ed, it’s time to face facts. Mittens isn’t getting the job done. Mittens blew his chance to roll himself out competently, and get a bounce, out of his convention. He isn’t energizing voters or making a compelling case for his candidacy.

This campaign needs some serious turnaround or we’re boned in November. The sooner Romney is forced to face these facts, the better for everyone.

Outlander on September 24, 2012 at 5:10 PM

For the life of me I do not know why Obama’s approval numbers would be any higher than they were 6 months ago. Nothing is better that is for sure.

Terrye on September 24, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Ed, it’s time to face facts. Mittens isn’t getting the job done. Mittens blew his chance to roll himself out competently, and get a bounce, out of his convention. He isn’t energizing voters or making a compelling case for his candidacy.

This campaign needs some serious turnaround or we’re boned in November. The sooner Romney is forced to face these facts, the better for everyone.

Outlander on September 24, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Why call him Mittens? It sounds dumb.

BTW, he did have a bounce coming out of his convention, but the Democrats got to have their convention second and that stepped on his bounce…for another thing Obama has lost his bounce too.

In fact, I think that Mitt is energizing voters.I am seeing reports of huge rallies and people seem pretty energized to me.

Considering the number of back stabbers in his own party that Romney has had to contend with together with the Democrat controlled media I actually think Romney is doing pretty well.

But your concern is noted.

Terrye on September 24, 2012 at 5:43 PM

(b) Romney’s vacant-eyed line delivered on 60 minutes where he said his campaign was “doing fine” and that he was very proud of them and stuff. Both A and B are redolent of the Führerbunker-fantasy that Steiner’s Army Detachment Steiner will save Berlin. Just hold the line! The debates will save us.

Come on, Romney is too smart to believe this “doing fine” bs. He knows perfectly well how far behind he is.
Regarding the debates – they helped Kerry to narrow the gap. Of course, the MSM will proclaim the One the huge winner in the debate, no matter what, so it’s not 2004 all over again.

buridan on September 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Listen to you two…what are they paying you?

I thought Romney did very well on that 60 Minute interview. There was nothing vacant about his eyes..that is just stupid.

and as far as being behind is concerned…Obama is not exactly sitting the world on fire.

Terrye on September 24, 2012 at 5:48 PM

And as far as the debates go, wait until you hear the big Zero without his teleprompter.

COgirl on September 24, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Talk radio in Milwaukee is begging people to go and volunteer for Romney/Ryan/Thompson. As I mentioned weeks earlier, there are far fewer people in the “victory centers” than when McCain/Palin ran, due to the enthusiasm that Sarah brought, and the lack of enthusiasm this time, even with Paul Ryan on the ticket. And for those of you who think polls don’t matter, when all you see is Romney losing in poll after poll after poll, why would anyone want to join a sinking ship? WI won’t even be close.

gumbyandpokey on September 24, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Catholic which are about a quarter of the electorate will not vote for Obama…

This HHS mandate will kill them…

That is about 4 points shaved off Obama from 2008…

I just don’t see how Obama is going got win this thing…

MGardner on September 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM

This poll is great news for Romney, who leads among Indis and has a whopping 40% support from Hispanics and about 48% from Hispanic males.

Even more fascinating is the intense enthusiasm among white married women, who are a big part of the Romney coalition. Nearly 60% of them are among those most likely to vote, far more than any other demographic.

What should we call an election led by white married women?

As usual, Obama only has a 2.6% lead because this poll has a Dem plus three bias.

Bart DePalma on September 24, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Talk radio in Milwaukee is begging people to go and volunteer for Romney/Ryan/Thompson. As I mentioned weeks earlier, there are far fewer people in the “victory centers” than when McCain/Palin ran, due to the enthusiasm that Sarah brought, and the lack of enthusiasm this time, even with Paul Ryan on the ticket. And for those of you who think polls don’t matter, when all you see is Romney losing in poll after poll after poll, why would anyone want to join a sinking ship? WI won’t even be close.

gumbyandpokey on September 24, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Your assessment of looking at the polls is correct…

National polls are clearly trending in Romney’s favor…

MGardner on September 24, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Specifically looking at Gallup the September 5th-11th tracking poll Obama peaked at 7 points over Romney…

Now it’s down to 2…

I expect after the debates Romney will pull ahead and stay there…

MGardner on September 24, 2012 at 7:58 PM

“Specifically looking at Gallup the September 5th-11th tracking poll Obama peaked at 7 points over Romney…

Now it’s down to 2…”

It had been tied, and Obama opened up a lead again.

Romney hasn’t been ahead for a long time.

gumbyandpokey on September 24, 2012 at 8:15 PM

If Obama wins, it is likely because of swing state Ohio, and, ironically it will be because a Conservative governor (Kasich) helped bring down the unemployment rate to 7% through his reforms. Stupid voters will think that their improving economy was all because of Obama.

Decoski on September 24, 2012 at 8:16 PM

It had been tied, and Obama opened up a lead again.

Romney hasn’t been ahead for a long time.

gumbyandpokey on September 24, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Correct but I am looking at the overall trend, trying to be objective here…

MGardner on September 24, 2012 at 9:33 PM

false hope for the mittbots! mittens still sux!

Pragmatic

So do you.

Don’t you have some Obama rally to get to?

changer1701

The Obama rally is in Pragmatic’s pants, so it will be a short trip.

xblade on September 24, 2012 at 10:47 PM

gumbyandpokey on September 24, 2012

gummeandpolesit is gumming us again?

KOOLAID2 on September 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Your assessment of looking at the polls is correct…

National polls are clearly trending in Romney’s favor…

MGardner on September 24, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Riggghhhttttt. Keep on dreaming. Romney falls further behind each day. After the debates he’ll be grease on the floor.

independentvoice on September 25, 2012 at 12:25 AM

I think he’ll win, but it has to be big enough that the left can’t try and steal it.

mark81150 on September 24, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Won’t need to. Romney’s going to be crushed.

independentvoice on September 25, 2012 at 12:29 AM

I just bet $100 to make $250 at sportsbook.ag. It will make Mitt’s win just that much sweeter!

Willard Mitt Romney, the 45th President of the United States of America!

MJBrutus on September 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM

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