Wind industry hops on the strugglebus without assurance of their precious tax credit

posted at 3:21 pm on September 20, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Question: If a new technology really holds boundless potential to not only meet the raucous, clamoring demand for a viable source of ‘green’ energy than can fit in with our infrastructure at a worthwhile expense, but also to turn a profit due to its efficient reliability as a smart alternative to traditional energy sources, then why would said technology be so dependent on a wildly generous federal subsidy for its survival?

Answer: It wouldn’t.

I know things work a little differently in the corrupted, rent-seeking, reality-denying la-la-land of eco-idealism, but here in the real world, when a new technology or idea presents real potential to turn into something that people actually want to buy, people invest in it. In the private market. Voluntarily. With their own money. That endeavor may succeed, or it may fail, but the risk is isolated to the people who chose to take a chance on it, and their interest in the project is about producing something consumers want to purchase — not about winning over votes by playing political favoritism and trying to engineer society’s makeup in the way that you deem more virtuous than another.

Wind energy has been afforded more opportunities than you can shake a stick at, à la the U.S. taxpayer, and they’re ability to compete in the free market is still pretty pathetic. Now that one of their biggest and longtime sources of federal support — the production tax credit — is in jeopardy, and the lobbyists and advocates are all of a dither trying to convince everyone that this subsidy is absolutely crucial for our country’s energy future, or something. From the NYT:

Many of those jobs have disappeared since, as wind companies have been buffeted by weak demand for electricity, stiff competition from cheap natural gas and cheaper options from Asian competitors. Chinese manufacturers, who can often underprice goods because of generous state subsidies, have moved into the American market and have become an issue in the larger trade tensions between the two countries. In July, the United States Commerce Department imposed tariffs on steel turbine towers from China after finding that manufacturers had been selling them for less than the cost of production.

And now, on top of the business challenges, the industry is facing a big political problem in Washington: the Dec. 31 expiration of a federal tax credit that makes wind power more competitive with other sources of electricity.

The tax break, which costs about $1 billion a year, has been periodically renewed by Congress with support from both parties. This year, however, it has become a wedge issue in the presidential contest. …

“Big Wind has had extension after extension after extension,” said Benjamin Cole, a spokesman for the American Energy Alliance, a group partly financed by oil interests that has been lobbying against the credit in Washington. “The government shouldn’t be continuing to prop up industries that never seem to be able to get off their training wheels.”

Competition from Chinese manufacturers who can underprice their products because of generous state subsidies? Yes, because we wouldn’t know anything about that, would we?

Sorry, wind — you’ve had more than your fair share of government “investments” in your future, and your continuing failure to get in the game on your own merits should tell us just about everything we need to know.

And before anybody points out that traditional energy sources are also on the receiving end of federal subsides, yes, I know this — and I unequivocally support an end to all types of energy subsidies, as subsidies always and necessarily serve to distort and interfere with free-market signals. In fact, when I can think of a good reason to support any type of subsidy across any economic sphere… I’ll be sure to let you know.


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it won’t happen here.
too many idiots and, again, a D majority.
since the 2 yrs of R majority (2010 was historic for maine) could not fix decades of D issues the idiots here went back to D.
most people here deserve to starve to death.

dmacleo on May 11, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Needed the Atomic bomb picture..

Electrongod on May 11, 2013 at 7:07 PM

…its Maine!…where the girls think they are Republicans…that Maine?

KOOLAID2 on May 11, 2013 at 7:12 PM

I shudder when I think about what will happen in Maine when our common sense Governor is no longer in office. Maine is the best state I’ve ever lived in, but sadly it’s only one breath away from becoming another liberal Hellhole due to an overabundance of misguided or willfully ignorant voters.

Birchbark on May 11, 2013 at 7:19 PM

The Borg. Always we will fight the Borg.

M240H on May 11, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Well, that’ll have our Progs clutching their pearls and saying cutting, cutting things about our governor! AKA ‘business as usual’.

PersonFromPorlock on May 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Plus, the turbines make a huge sound when they whip down and cast weird shadows with their huge blades. Drives people crazy. Oh, they kill endangered birds, too.

PattyJ on May 11, 2013 at 7:40 PM

“I think that it’s an unrealistic goal, and there should be consideration beyond that of whether megawatt capacity installed is really the best metric of our wind energy policies.”

Yes….what he really is saying is that he’d like to be able say the wind initiative was a resounding success even if not 1 watt was ever produced. You see, success comes from feeling good about wasting someone else’s money.

BobMbx on May 11, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Out here in the sunny People’s Republik of Kalifornia, we’re still inhaling.

Gonna grow wind, cut all that evil carbon-heavy reliance on fossil fuels. AND solar!

Right now they’re paying a professor in San Diego to come up with a computer-run program to forecast when cloud cover will cause solar input to the grid to drop.

Gotta get power to replace what will be lost. Of course they haven’t gotten around to forecasting when the wind will drop, and cut output.

The grid will “magically” correct itself, and rainbow colored unicorns will make up the short fall so that the grid doesn’t crash.

Just ask Moonbeam. IF you can tear him away from his choo-choo.

GarandFan on May 11, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Wind power is all about democrats enriching donors and cronies based on exploiting the ignorant and imbecilic.

tom daschle concerned on May 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

I shudder when I think about what will happen in Maine when our common sense Governor is no longer in office. Maine is the best state I’ve ever lived in, but sadly it’s only one breath away from becoming another liberal Hellhole due to an overabundance of misguided or willfully ignorant voters.

Birchbark on May 11, 2013 at 7:19 PM

born here,live in Etna
its a hole now since early 90′s.

dmacleo on May 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Start spreading the rumor that windmills could hurt Moochelle’s taxpayer lobster supply and that could impede the implementation of this latest green fiasco.

That, and make PETA aware that if you really want to smack birds out of the sky a ginormous windmill is a fantastic ornithoblenderizer.

viking01 on May 11, 2013 at 7:49 PM

What will we do with all of those unicorns?

BDavis on May 11, 2013 at 7:58 PM

What will we do with all of those unicorns?

BDavis on May 11, 2013 at 7:58 PM

As nonpartisan said..

Fluck them..

Electrongod on May 11, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Wind power: the energy of the future …. since the 16th century.

PackerBronco on May 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM

The problem here in MidCoast maine, (I live in Bath) is that the local newspapers are really democrat propaganda organs. Maine’s largest daily, the Portland Press herald, is owned by the husband of Democrat Congressman Congresswoman Chellie Pingree. Any guess as to how the news is shaded up here?

But to add even more interest to this fire, that Wind Energy law passed while Baldacci was governor was written to help out former governor, and current Maine US Senator Angus King and his pet energy projects. Where, or where, do you think King got all his money to run for office from? His wife Mary is a social bar fly too, and fits right in with the self-appointed aristocracy in Washington.

There is a huge stench of corruption all over that Wind Energy bill, and a lot of it is coming from Baldacci and King, and it’s way past time that those two were the subject of state and federal investigations.

TKindred on May 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM

The state can simply relocate those at-risk birds to avian work collectives where they can contribute productively to History. Of course, their wings must be clipped, for their own good, to keep them from flying back into the people’s wind turbine power production zone, and also for equality, because it’s not fair that they should fly, when so many other revolutionary working plants and animals cannot.

Kenosha Kid on May 11, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Wind power: the environmentally-correct way of committing avicide.

PackerBronco on May 11, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Even better, in the meantime, LePage is trying to use their Wind Energy Act as a model for expanding the state’s natural-gas infrastructure. Natural gas, I might add, has a much more effective track record than wind at reducing carbon emissions, creating jobs, and lowering costs — all without wind’s dependence on federal and state assistance!

Maine would be a great place to expand the “natural gas infrastructure”. There’s a huge LNG (liquefied natural gas) import terminal about 90 miles over the border in New Brunswick (Canada), and Maine would be the first in line to receive the gas not used by the Canadians. It’s closer than shipping fracked gas from Pennsylvania.

Steve Z on May 11, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Green energy: producing energy through the process of burning money.

PackerBronco on May 11, 2013 at 8:13 PM

We expect to freeze to death in Montana if the epa gets its way and closes down all the coal fired power plants. I think someone warned them and they are starting to rethink the new lower mandated emission levels. One cold day a few years from now, we won’t be able to drive the cars we currently own, use our lawn mowers or heat our homes(if we still own one)after the greenies and govt gets through with us.

Kissmygrits on May 11, 2013 at 9:35 PM

it isn’t delivering on its promises

The UK study showing wind turbines only last 12-15 years instead of 25-30 showed that the promises were near scandalous.

theperfecteconomist on May 11, 2013 at 10:20 PM

We expect to freeze to death in Montana if the epa gets its way and closes down all the coal fired power plants. I think someone warned them and they are starting to rethink the new lower mandated emission levels. One cold day a few years from now, we won’t be able to drive the cars we currently own, use our lawn mowers or heat our homes(if we still own one)after the greenies and govt gets through with us.

Kissmygrits on May 11, 2013 at 9:35 PM

All of that was predicted in a SciFi novel by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and others entitled “Fallen Angels”.

It’s frighteningly prescient.

TKindred on May 11, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Wow, it is almost as if just wishing will NOT make it so!

Adjoran on May 12, 2013 at 1:53 AM

If T Boone Pickens couldn’t make it work in Texas, it ain’t gonna work.

Pickens continued, “Obama needs to go in, study it, look at it, and decide what an energy plan is, and then go forward with it. He needs to explain to his people,‘Hey, we can get on everything green. We can get on everything renewable. Then the cost of power will go up ten times.’ So be careful when you start fooling with it. Know what you’re working with.”

txhsmom on May 12, 2013 at 3:39 AM

Government subsidized Wind Companies won’t face charges in condor deaths.

Federal wildlife officials took the unprecedented step Friday of telling private companies that they will not be prosecuted for inadvertently harassing or even killing endangered California condors.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-killing-condors-20130511,0,1790222.story

Obama has tossed California Condors under the bus in favor of windmill power – and kick backs from chronies.

papertiger on May 12, 2013 at 4:57 AM

I shudder when I think about what will happen in Maine when our common sense Governor is no longer in office. Maine is the best state I’ve ever lived in, but sadly it’s only one breath away from becoming another liberal Hellhole due to an overabundance of misguided or willfully ignorant voters.

Birchbark on May 11, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Ayuh! Left Maine some time ago for the bright sunny climes of Connecticut. It’s even worse down here but there was work at the time! What we need is a concerted effort to change the main stream media into telling the truth instead of propagandizing 24/7.

Boats48 on May 12, 2013 at 5:52 AM

Like Ethanol that reduces gas mileage, increase engine wear, drives up the price of food and every other product dependent on corn, and doesn’t do anything for the environment; wind, solar, electric car, and other green disasters are here to stay.

Why?

Because they are politically drive agendas that allow politicians to control huge sums of money for votes and significantly increases government control over every aspect of our lives. Oh yeah, and they get to do all of this with other people’s money without being held accountable for their miserable failures. The latter due mostly to low and no-information voters.

But the most amazing aspect to all of this is that it was 100% predictable as clearly and publicly highlighted by those who have opposed government mandated Ethanol, wind, solar, electric cars, and the other green nonsense.

Facts have never been of much concern when a politician can seize the opportunity to flush other peoples’ hard earned money down the political toilets.

No, politics have and will continue trump reason, logic, efficiency, and good government.

BMF on May 12, 2013 at 6:19 AM

Wind energy could have become a reliable peak demand electrical producer but the utilities were forced to buy the lousy electricity they produce whenever they produce it.

Slowburn on May 12, 2013 at 6:44 AM

When has a Progressive initiative EVER been rolled back, curtailed, repealed, reduced, or otherwise rethought?

Cleombrotus on May 12, 2013 at 6:58 AM

Without a war or other major civil upheaval, that is.

Cleombrotus on May 12, 2013 at 6:59 AM

Natural gas, I might add, has a much more effective track record than wind at reducing carbon emissions, creating jobs, and lowering costs — all without wind’s dependence on federal and state assistance!

Ya but it’s not cool

david kumbera on May 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM

The UK study showing wind turbines only last 12-15 years instead of 25-30 showed that the promises were near scandalous.

So like PV solar it never will payback unless energy costs soar.

1+1=POTATO

jukin3 on May 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Maine’s wind energy capacity today is about 435 megawatts, according to the Maine Renewable Energy Association.

Capacity. That is the amount of electricity produced under ideal conditions. What is the actual output? Typically it is less than 10% of advertised capacity. And at times, actual output is zero.

iurockhead on May 12, 2013 at 11:33 AM

I’m from a little town on the Maine coast, Eastport. They talked about putting an LNG terminal in the area. Would have created a crapload of jobs, and helped energy costs. But no, out of state libtards, looking to turn the area into Cape Cod North…… So glad I left. Nearly 20 years now.

DStreete on May 12, 2013 at 7:04 PM