Open thread: The Massachusetts Senate debate

posted at 6:40 pm on September 20, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Legal Insurrection, the show starts at 7 p.m. ET. Why should you watch if you’re not from Mass? Two reasons. One: Obviously, we’re all interested in seeing how a moderate Massachusetts Republican fares in a debate against a prominent “you didn’t build that” liberal. Consider this an undercard for the main event on October 3, with the important caveat that Scott Brown’s free to tack much further to the left tonight than Romney will be a few weeks from now. Two: The GOP’s hopes of retaking the Senate have been fading for weeks and not just because of Todd Akin. A quick tour of RCP’s poll of polls reveals Democratic candidates leading by four points in Virginia, by seven in Ohio, by eight in Florida and New Mexico, and by nearly 10 in Michigan. (Akin trails McCaskill by five in Missouri.) At the moment, Wisconsin, Montana, and even Nevada all appear to be toss-ups. Losing a seat in Massachusetts that’s already red will make things that much harder, never mind the fact that it would mean sending Fauxcahontas, the left’s new hero, to the Senate.

The good news is that today’s Boston Herald poll has Brown up four points. The bad news is that that’s the only poll taken over the past month that has him ahead. Warren appears to have gotten a bit of a bounce after the convention and leads in other recent surveys by anywhere from two to six points. Frankly, it’s amazing that he’s even this close: In a presidential election year, in a state this blue, he’d need a ton of ticket-splitting to keep this seat — and yet, thanks to his own likability, some careful political positioning as a de facto independent, and Warren’s lackluster campaign and personal “meh”-ness, he’s right in the thick of it. If he ends up losing, it won’t be because he failed to do what he needed to win. It’ll be remorseless partisan demographics at work.

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H/T to Howie.

gbear on September 20, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Thanks to everyone for watching Scott, we know him, he was himself tonight, and right on target.

Now Y’all see what we have to put up with here.

Fleuries on September 20, 2012 at 9:22 PM


El_Terrible on September 20, 2012 at 8:06 PM

El_Terrible:Too funny,love it,looks like AxleRod started a trend:)

canopfor on September 20, 2012 at 9:34 PM


But she did keep insisting that Brown voted as a Republican sometimes…

BigWyo on September 20, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Well, that certainly shored up her support in Cambridge & Newton.


roy_batty on September 20, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Scott Brown was born in Wakefield MA, just north of Bawston.

She was born in Oklahoma as I recall.

Del Dolemonte on September 20, 2012 at 8:30 PM

They don’t want her back………

Tenwheeler on September 20, 2012 at 9:45 PM


“In the debate tonight, Elisabeth Warren defended her heritage from unfair attacks and stood firm on issues important to folks in Massachusets, such as health care and voter rights.

Senator Brown arrived in a truck.

In other news……”

Tenwheeler on September 20, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Ugh. Ma’am is on Parks and Rec… puke.

Gingotts on September 20, 2012 at 9:48 PM


Judge blocks part of Texas effort to purge dead from voter roll

AUSTIN, Texas | Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:48pm EDT

(Reuters) – A Texas judge on Thursday

temporarily blocked part of a state effort to remove dead people

from the voter rolls

after the purge led to thousands of people receiving letters

asking them to prove they are alive.

The ruling by State District Judge Tim Sulak in Austin came after four Texas voters filed suit on Wednesday on the grounds that the voter roll purge violated state and federal election law and could interfere with people who were very much alive being able to vote in November.

Election officials sent about 80,000 notices to voters who were dead or “potentially deceased.” The voters were told they needed to provide evidence that they were alive within 30 days or they would be removed from the rolls, the lawsuit said.

“The secretary of state’s office is trying their best to force local registrars to purge people off the rolls who are alive and well,” said Buck Wood, a lawyer for the plaintiffs.

Rich Parsons, a spokesman for Texas Secretary of State Hope Andrade, said: “Our policy is we do not comment on pending litigation.”

Andrade told a state senator in a September 11 letter that if someone failed to respond and was dropped from the rolls, and local officials later received information that the person was eligible, the officials must reinstate the voter immediately.

“In this way, any individuals canceled, who should not have been, are not penalized,” Andrade wrote.

Among the voters who received a notice in the mail was Wood’s son Dylan Wood, also an Austin lawyer.

“It was a little puzzling – I’m 42 years old,” said Dylan Wood, one of the four voters suing state and local officials. “I still would like to know what it is that led them to believe I was dead.”

Texas has long purged dead voters from the rolls, but a new state law passed with little fanfare in 2011 requires the state to use information from the Social Security Administration to evaluate the rolls.

Buck Wood said that in some cases, voters who have the same date of birth and final four Social Security digits as a dead person received notice that they were potentially dead. State officials called those “weak” matches.

Buck Wood said he doesn’t object to officials purging “strong” matches – voters whose name, date of birth and full Social Security number all match those of a dead person.

The judge’s order blocks Andrade from instructing counties to remove names from voter rolls in cases of weak matches. It also says that officials in Travis County – where Austin is located – must stop mailing out the notices to voters.

A hearing in the case was set for October 4.

canopfor on September 20, 2012 at 9:48 PM

My wife thinks my *ss is $$

OTTO on September 20, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Good God, I an thankful I came late to the party and had time to catch myself before spewing dinner across the monitor!


Tenwheeler on September 20, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Among the voters who received a notice in the mail was Wood’s son Dylan Wood, also an Austin lawyer.

“It was a little puzzling – I’m 42 years old,” said Dylan Wood, one of the four voters suing state and local officials. “I still would like to know what it is that led them to believe I was dead.”

Did you vote for Obama?

Just sayin………

Tenwheeler on September 20, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Poll: Sen. Brown posts lead on Warren in Mass. Senate race
By Alexandra Jaffe – 09/20/12 12:27 PM ET

A new poll of the Massachusetts Senate race breaks Democrat Elizabeth Warren’s four-poll leading streak and puts Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) ahead by a solid margin.

The poll,

conducted by the University of Massachusetts Lowell

UMass Lowell/Herald poll: Scott Brown in slight lead vs. Warren
Thursday, September 20, 2012

and the Boston Herald, gives Brown a six-percentage-point lead over Warren, with 50 percent support to her 44 percent support among registered voters. Coming after four straight polls in which Warren posted a lead, however, further polling will need to show Brown in the lead before he can

safely say Warren’s surge is waning.

The new poll, however, marks an eight-percentage-point boost in support for Brown since the last poll, taken in early December, and a five-percentage-point loss for Warren, possibly indicating the campaign has taken a negative toll on the Democrat.

Warren’s difficulty, according to this poll, is twofold: Not only does she get a lower percentage of Democratic support than Brown has Republican support, but she also lags substantially with independent voters, which must be a concern for a Democrat running in a state where over 50 percent of voters are unaffiliated with a party.

Warren takes only 65 percent of Democrats, while Brown takes a full 83 percent of voters in his party. And he leads Warren by 19 points among independent voters.

However, Warren could still convince some Brown supporters to back her — 15 percent of those who said they’d be voting for Brown said they could change their minds between now and Election Day, and only eight percent of Warren supporters said the same of her. A full 31 percent of Massachusetts registered voters polled said they could be persuaded to switch candidates.

That underscores the importance of the four debates scheduled in the Senate race, the first of which is Thursday night. Those debates will give Massachusetts voters, known for paying atypically high attention to the state’s politics, the chance to compare the candidates side-by side.

The poll was conducted among 524 registered voters from Sept. 13-17, and has a margin of error of 5.3 percentage points.

canopfor on September 20, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Oops,since its open thread!!

A Few Minutes With …
Ann Romney says her husband cares for all Americans

the Journal Sentinel
Sept. 20, 2012 5:10 p.m.

Ann Romney is the wife of Republican Party presidential candidate Mitt Romney. We caught up with her Thursday after her campaign appearance at Marquette University.

This is an edited transcript of the conversation.

Q. How do you like Milwaukee? You’ve seen it a couple of times.

A. I love it. And, I’m a Michigan girl. . . . Last time I was here, maybe three weeks or four weeks ago, I did that amazing lakefront walk and was stunned by the revitalization you’ve had on the lakefront. I hope our fellow Michiganders can wander over here and see what a beautiful park you have and how the lakefront is so pretty.(More…..)

A Few Minutes With …
Ann Romney says her husband cares for all Americans


canopfor on September 20, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Well, he voted for Obamacare, but he’s better than the Faux Squaw, so I’m glad he did well.

Freelancer on September 21, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Well, he voted for Obamacare, but he’s better than the Faux Squaw, so I’m glad he did well.


he didn’t vote for obamacare-he had been elected but gov. de-evolve patrick kept him out of the senate seat( occupied by a kennedy hack at the time)during the first go rounds in congress. it passed by reconciliation- he did not get to vote on it. he voted 3 times to repeal it.

mittens on September 21, 2012 at 1:05 AM

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