New Romney ad: The least we can do

posted at 12:41 pm on September 20, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

The WSJ is reporting that Team Romney is looking to amp up their swing-state appeals in the t-minus seven weeks until the election, and that they’ll be going for more targeted ad blitzes while Romney will be doing a little less fundraising, and a little more on-the-trail campaigning:

Mitt Romney’s plan to rebound from a tough stretch in his bid for the White House rests on stepping up campaigning in swing states, running more television ads and curtailing a fundraising push that has had him spending more time with donors in hotel ballrooms than with supporters at campaign rallies.

Still navigating a series of setbacks, Mr. Romney will hit the campaign trail harder than he has since the party conventions began at the end of August, with public events in Florida, Nevada, Colorado and Ohio in the next week.

They’re also setting specific voting groups in their sights — I thought the “Dear Daughter” ad from earlier this week was a pretty effective appeal to combat that stupid “war on women” meme the liberals have got going — and with seniors most definitely in the mix of clutch voting blocs, they’re bringing Florida Sen. Marco Rubio into the fold to tout Republicans’ Medicare plan. With the senior-and-Latino-heavy Florida’s 29 electoral votes still very much in play for either candidate, bringing in the well-spoken, popular senator to talk about issues that affect seniors can’t be a bad move:

 “Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan get it. Medicare is going broke. That’s not politics, it’s math. Anyone who wants to leave Medicare like it is, is for letting it go bankrupt. My mother is 81 and depends on Medicare. We can save Medicare, without changing hers, but only if younger Americans accept that our Medicare will be different than our parents when we retire in thirty years. But after all they did for us, isn’t that the least we can do?”

Oh wow, sane words about the impending fate of Medicare! It’s so rare to hear those these days, what with everything we hear about the Republicans’ apparently inherent hatred of old people. Sorry, Democrats, but Medicare going broke is a fact. Nobody wants to throw Granny off of a cliff, or even change the plan for current seniors and those quickly approaching retirement — we just want to make the dang thing solvent. Maybe that’s why seniors are actually wise enough to tend to favor Republicans’ Medicare reform plan, and it’s the young people we’re having trouble convincing?


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Medicare is going broke. That’s not politics, it’s math.

“But math is hard, so I’m going with O.”
/Typical lib

Bitter Clinger on September 20, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Almost a great ad, but not quite. The Romney/Ryan plan allows people to continue to choose Traditional Medicare. That should’ve been included. Without it, the spot leaves one wondering what kind of changes Rubio is talking about.

Murf76 on September 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Finally…a decent ad.

newtopia on September 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Mediscare and Foreign policy should be hammered.

they lie on September 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Great! Keep up the truth coming out in ads Mitt/team!

Offense, no defense!
L

letget on September 20, 2012 at 12:50 PM

That should’ve been included.

It’s a 30 second spot…pretty tough to cram everything in…

newtopia on September 20, 2012 at 12:50 PM

New Romney ad: The least we can do

It’s good that Romney keeps hammering away at what he would do differently, but by god he also needs to start hammering Obama on the corruption of the Obamanation Administration.

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Medicare is going broke. That’s not politics, it’s math.

“So let’s eliminate the program, which has no basis in the enumerated powers of the federal government under the Constitution.”

No solution to Medicare besides (a) completely eliminating the program or (b) amending the Constitution to allow for the program will ever have my support.

Shump on September 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Reeks of groveling.

lorien1973 on September 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Mediscare and Foreign policy should be hammered.

Along with “you didn’t build that” and the meme that the President has added millions of jobs (while ignoring all the ones lost since he took office).

newtopia on September 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

You Republicans always use those nasty four-letter words – FACT, MATH… Have you considered the fe-e-e-e-e-elings?…

Archivarix on September 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Almost a great ad, but not quite. The Romney/Ryan plan allows people to continue to choose Traditional Medicare. That should’ve been included. Without it, the spot leaves one wondering what kind of changes Rubio is talking about.

Murf76 on September 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM

It was, wasn’t it? It says their plan is to preserve it for current seniors.

The ad’s OK, I just wish it imparted a little more urgency and laid the contrast out more starkly.

changer1701 on September 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Yeah, Rubio’s mom “depends” on Medicare. Right.

You Republicans have truly jumped the shark this year.

And Mitt’s creepy, wears-as-little-as-possible voice at the end — yikes. Gee-zuss help us all.

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

I like it.

earlgrey133 on September 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

So… I guess this means if Romney is elected, we don’t get to have a big party and then push grandma and gram-pa over a cliff in their wheelchairs?

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Still no gas prices. Idiots.

rickyricardo on September 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Republican,ConPreservative since 2012, Preserving the failed socialist policies that have bankrupted our nation in order to further corrupt and bankrupt thenation for generations to come!

astonerii on September 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Yeah, Rubio’s mom “depends” on Medicare. Right.

You Republicans have truly jumped the shark this year.

And Mitt’s creepy, wears-as-little-as-possible voice at the end — yikes. Gee-zuss help us all.

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Sounds like you do need help.

Bitter Clinger on September 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Gee-zuss help us all.

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Sorry… I don’t think Gee-zuss likes you…

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I like it.

earlgrey133 on September 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

That’s the problem. You are a HotAirhead. Romney’s already got your undying support.

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM

It’s good that Romney keeps hammering away at what he would do differently, but by god he also needs to start hammering Obama on the corruption of the Obamanation Administration.

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Yep. Specifics, man. Call them out. He won’t be able to do this in the debates, because the mods won’t allow it. I do take some solace in thte third debate being moderated by a foreign policy correspondent, so, there is that.

a capella on September 20, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Sorry, Democrats, but Medicare going broke is a fact.

What is Downgrade’s plan to save the program?

[Hint: Cloward-Piven doesn’t constitute a ‘Plan’]

Chip on September 20, 2012 at 12:58 PM

You know that 47%? Without Social Security and Medicare, the who reasoning behind providing them the welfare they have would go away. As long as your giving to some, everyone else has to get something… Old = benefits, why not disabled? Why not a mom with no dad? Why not a depressed overweight pot smoker?

But hey, go on and keep it, just why isn’t anyone willing to protect the real absolute most defensless group of our nation? The not allowed to vote young and unborn? They are the ones being asked to bail all of you out time and time again.

Cap and Balance.

astonerii on September 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM

I live in Ohio. Based on Romney’s performance over the last two weeks there’s not a snowball’s chance in h*ll that I’ll ever see this ad except on this site.

dominigan on September 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM

What is Downgrade’s plan to save the program?

Chip on September 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Ads are great, but they don’t work unless you actually put them on the air.

Mark1971 on September 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

New Romney ad: The least we can do

Pretty much sums up this ad.

faraway on September 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Still no gas prices. Idiots.

rickyricardo on September 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

People know how much they’re paying for gas, and they’re not happy about it. If anything, Romney should run ads touting what he’ll do to unlock our energy resources, which will create jobs AND lower gas prices. I’m sure these ads will be coming. Maybe he wants to see just how high gas prices get.

ardenenoch on September 20, 2012 at 1:02 PM

GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS…

Where are these ads???? This is what voters face every single morning and what they worry about every single night.
Where are these ads ??

stenwin77 on September 20, 2012 at 1:02 PM

“But math is hard, so I’m going with O.”
/Typical lib

Bitter Clinger on September 20, 2012 at 12:47 PM

“And even thought I’ll end up with 0 in my bank account and IRA plan, I will still be morally superior to you!”

Bruno Strozek on September 20, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Romney and Obama now tied in Gallup, 47-47. Obama’s approval drops two points to 46%, disapproval up to 48%. Been awhile since he’s been underwater.

Mark1971 on September 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

That’s the problem. You are a HotAirhead. Romney’s already got your undying support.

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM

What do you suggest? An ad on the benefits of redistribution?

earlgrey133 on September 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Have Mitt & Ann been in a grocery store lately????

Just wondering. Would make a great ad.

stenwin77 on September 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Romney and Obama now tied in Gallup, 47-47. Obama’s approval drops two points to 46%, disapproval up to 48%. Been awhile since he’s been underwater.

Mark1971 on September 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

don’t tell that to gumbey and pokey.

earlgrey133 on September 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Obama on the golf course

Obama talking to a pirate in the Oval Office

Obama partying

Obama not knowing what the national debt is

WHERE ARE THESE ADS?

Come on Mitt, shake it up.

stenwin77 on September 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Have Mitt & Ann been in a grocery store lately????

Just wondering. Would make a great ad.

stenwin77 on September 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Please. Their servants shop for them. /libtard

changer1701 on September 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Romney and Obama now tied in Gallup, 47-47. Obama’s approval drops two points to 46%, disapproval up to 48%. Been awhile since he’s been underwater.

Mark1971 on September 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

don’t tell that to gumbey and pokey.

earlgrey133 on September 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

What? are you suggesting that that Gallup poll doesn’t prove the superiority of Obama’s position and the inevitability of his victorious reelection? You dirty damned clinging racist…

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 1:06 PM

If the Repubs are doing Medicare ads, they are losing. The Senior vote is supposed to be a reliable Repub vote.

Gas. Gas. Gas. Gas. Gas. Debt. Gas. Gas. Gas. Gas. Gas.

kevinkristy on September 20, 2012 at 1:06 PM

These people are just SICK.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/actress-jessica-alba-asks-voters-to-pledge-allegiance-to-obama/article/2508539#.UFtL567MjVG

Pledging their allegiance to Obama?

“Right to choose”?

You think he’s for choice you ding-dong?

He took away the CHOICE for black youths trapped in the corrupt D.C. Schools.

He will be taking away your right to CHOOSE your own doctor and how you treat your own health under ObamaCare.

And of course you don’t have a CHOICE is your’re a future Female voter if your Mom decides to abort you.

Hollywood is completely corrupt. How can this country survive with the politicians we have, the media we have, and the entertainment culture we live in?

………..and Obama is ahead in the polls?

GOD HELP US!!!

The freaking country is at stake and all we get are these pathetic ads from the gop?

PappyD61 on September 20, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Man the creepy ads. I love it but it’s got to freak you uys out how weird and soft and creepy your team is. You gotta be missing W and dr evil.

tommyhawk on September 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

This ad is dynamite. More, please.

Caiwyn on September 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS…

Where are these ads???? This is what voters face every single morning and what they worry about every single night.
Where are these ads ??

And again… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS… GAS PRICES… FOOD PRICES… LOWER INCOMES… NO JOBS…

Where are these ads???? This is what voters face every single morning and what they worry about every single night.
Where are these ads ??

SoonerFn4Lfe on September 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Not all ads are for all audiences. This one is for the old folks who are going to say… “Oh, he seems like such a nice boy. Just like that Paul Ryan fellow.”

The message is to alleviate concerns seniors have about medicare for their children and grandchildren. They don’t want to think that the young people are getting taken advantage of. Rubio is assuring them that young people want to change Medicare and feel “it’s the least we can do.”

happytobehere on September 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Man the creepy ads. I love it but it’s got to freak you uys out how weird and soft and creepy your team is. You gotta be missing W and dr evil.

tommyhawk on September 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Projection much? I pledge allegiance to Obama, na, that’s not creepy, a United States flag with the stars removed and the Obama O put in their place, na, that’s not creepy either. “We all belong to the government Now“, nope not creepy at all.

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Man the creepy ads. I love it but it’s got to freak you uys out how weird and soft and creepy your team is. You gotta be missing W and dr evil.

tommyhawk on September 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Not as much as Obama is missing Jeremiah Wright.

sentinelrules on September 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Didn’t realize that troll was still around. Please folks, let’s stop feeding ‘em. It only encourages them.

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Nobody wants to throw Granny off of a cliff,

Anyone who wants to leave Medicare like it is, is for letting it go bankrupt.

Obama is for the cliff toss – and he’s for the pain pill instead of the pacemaker.

forest on September 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM

If the Repubs are doing Medicare ads, they are losing. The Senior vote is supposed to be a reliable Repub vote.

Gas. Gas. Gas. Gas. Gas. Debt. Gas. Gas. Gas. Gas. Gas.

kevinkristy on September 20, 2012 at 1:06 PM

..Di-gel. Di-gel. Di-gel. Di-gel. Di-gel. Jobs. Di-gel. Di-gel. Di-gel.

The War Planner on September 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM

I really hope they put out an ad with Obama not knowing size of debt on Letterman.

Mark1971 on September 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Almost everybody who is on Social Security “depends” on Medicare, lefty. You’d know that if you weren’t just some leftoid drone, sitting around your mom’s basement in your stained Spiderman underwear – waiting for someone else to bring you your lunch.

It’s really killin’ you that your obamassiah is going to be “retired” (and probably scamming medicare) after Nov.6th, isn’t it.

Solaratov on September 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Hold on now, President Chow has a plan, it consists of coming together in togetherness and moving forward together with lots of togethery togetherness. Together.

If you hammerheads can’t understand the genius of such a plan, I don’t know what else I can say.

Bishop on September 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

With the money lead that Romney has I think that it is time that his team put their head down and push through, just keep pumping your legs until you move the ball across the goal line.

There is no use in responding to strategically outsmart the MSM, they have the advantage of being able to control the narrative by shear brute force. Romney should just start bombarding the air waves with these short advertisements with each of them hitting on the economy and the pocketbook effects. The American public will instinctively understand these as they are feeling the effects themselves, personally. No need to waste time trying to explain the nuances of policy differences on these types of ads; save the policy for the debates, op-eds, articles, and speeches.
These ads will give you the best ROI. But you got to keep hitting everyone over the head with it, hit hit hit and push through. The feeling of doom and gloom is there just bubbling below the surface ready to come out and DEMAND a change in the voting booth. Everyone is feeling it and ready for someone to invoke a reaction. Stop letting the opposition and MSM change the subject every 2 minutes to distract the voters from their biggest fear – the economy.
And leave no state uncontested – you do this, you could win PA.

donkichi on September 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Gee-zuss help us all.

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Don’t take the Lord’s name in vain you creep.

NapaConservative on September 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Hold on now, President Chow has a plan, it consists of coming together in togetherness and moving forward together with lots of togethery togetherness. Together.

If you hammerheads can’t understand the genius of such a plan, I don’t know what else I can say.

Bishop on September 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Yup…..

<—— That's some stinky cheese….

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 1:25 PM

I don’t know. Fine. A starter. But remember this Ryan video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJIC7kEq6kw&info=RyanMedicare
Excerpt or distill down to 30 or 60 seconds much of what was said in the Ryan video. Or get it or another version of it to go viral or to become a news item somehow. Say how FREE ENTERPRISE is key to combat the govt malaise that plagues current Medicare services.

anotherJoe on September 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

There’s no problem with Medicare that we can’t fix by appropriating all the money in the Presidential Pension Fund, for a day or so.

J_Crater on September 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

govt malaise that plagues current Medicare services.

anotherJoe on September 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Hey now, hold on, everybody knows you have to have some Government Mayonnaise to go with your Government Bread and Government Cheese, how else you gonna make a good sandwich?

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Wow, where did all the libtard trolls come from?

I would call them stupid liberals, but that would just be redundant.

Wolftech on September 20, 2012 at 1:37 PM

GALLUP: O 47% R 47%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150743/Obama-Romney.aspx

Resist We Much on September 20, 2012 at 1:37 PM

I would prefer the ad if it were truthful. Rubio ended it with ” when we retire in 30 years”. This is not the case. My wife is 53. This would also affect her in 10 or 12 years not 30. She has been working and paying in since she was 18 and the Ryan plan makes her nervous.

Dennis D on September 20, 2012 at 1:41 PM

That’s the problem. You are a HotAirhead. Romney’s already got your undying support.

bifidis on September 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM

And since he’s never going to have yours, why are you here and what’s YOUR problem?

I guess as you clowns get more desperate we are going to get more “angry monkey” trolls where they will fling any cr*p at the wall to see what sticks. How tedious.

kim roy on September 20, 2012 at 1:42 PM

The trolls are part of a surpress the vote online campaign out of Chicago. For realz.

Its a clever extension of Obamas excellent online blog trolling efforts from 08.

This is going on in most of the popular conservative blogs.

rickyricardo on September 20, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Man the creepy ads. I love it but it’s got to freak you uys out how weird and soft and creepy your team is. You gotta be missing W and dr evil.

tommyhawk on September 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Creepy? The talking points must be out again….

I think the Obummer team has got the creepy market cornered

right of the dial on September 20, 2012 at 1:45 PM

And since he’s never going to have yours, why are you here and what’s YOUR problem?

I guess as you clowns get more desperate we are going to get more “angry monkey” trolls where they will fling any cr*p at the wall to see what sticks. How tedious.

kim roy on September 20, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Their world is crashing down in front of their very eyes and they want to drag us down with them.

Not. Going. To. Happen. (interesting use of periods, don’t you think?)

NapaConservative on September 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM

New Obama Ad in Pakistan…

” These ads are running in Pakistan.
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton apologize to Pakistanis for an obscure YouTube video that is blocked in Pakistan.

The television ads in Pakistan feature clips of President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton during press appearances in Washington in which they condemned the video. Their words were subtitled in Urdu.

“We absolutely reject its content and message,” said Clinton in the advertisement.

A caption on the ad reads: “Paid Content.”

The advertisements end with the seal of the American Embassy in Islamabad, the Pakistani capital. It was not known how many channels were airing the ads or whether they were being run in other Muslim countries or just Pakistan.

An embassy spokeswoman declined comment…

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/unreal-obama-cuts-ads-in-pakistan-apologizing-for-free-speech-in-a

workingclass artist on September 20, 2012 at 1:51 PM

This is not the case. My wife is 53. This would also affect her in 10 or 12 years not 30. She has been working and paying in since she was 18 and the Ryan plan makes her nervous.

Dennis D on September 20, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Anyone who thinks that the Ryan plan will be a step function in which those over 55 are 100% on the old plan, and those less than 55 will be 100% on the Ryan plan are falling for the democrat propaganda. A plan like Ryan’s will have a phased plan so that those of us in our 40′s and 50′s will have some sort of phased in plan. You don’t think they’ve considered that?

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D, the greatest entitlement expansion in decades.

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

RYAN IS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE

and the sheep swallow it whole

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Sorry… I don’t think Gee-zuss likes you…

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Gee-zuss loves him, the rest of us think he’s a dick

Rio Linda Refugee on September 20, 2012 at 2:00 PM

You Republicans always use those nasty four-letter words – FACT, MATH… Have you considered the fe-e-e-e-e-elings?…

Archivarix on September 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Whose feelings? The old people about to be hurt as Obamacare loots Medicare? The fact of the matter when it comes to any of these discussions I am supporting my children and grandchildren which means to stop spending their futures to prop up unsustainable badly run entitlement programs.

But this is an election year. Romney/Ryan have put up a plan for discussion. Where’s the plan fromt the rat-eared bastard and his party? Are they honestly suggesting that nothing needs to change? Are they really that stupid? In any case it is time for the Dems to put up a plan or get out of the way of the adults who have.

Happy Nomad on September 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Tsk tsk…poor little Tommyhawk,dante and bidfis…sounds like you crybabies are panicking…Romney up in Gallup poll to tie with Obummer and Obummer falling fast (46%)in the “like-ability” polls…just the beginning weak minded ones…maybe a pirate will swoop in and save his a**

LaRepublican on September 20, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 1:55 PM

So what’s the plan to save Medicare from the rat-eared bastard and his corrupt party? There’s lots of talk about increasing taxes on the rich (now down to anybody earning more than $100K) but that doesn’t even come close to filling the funding gap. I’m sick and tired of stupid economically illiterate trolls finding fault with Romney/Ryan without providing a single alternative. As if reelecting the rat-eared bastard will make the problems go away. Sorry hope and change have an expiration date and it is time for the rat-eared bastard to put up or shut up.

Happy Nomad on September 20, 2012 at 2:09 PM

I would prefer the ad if it were truthful. Rubio ended it with ” when we retire in 30 years”. This is not the case. My wife is 53. This would also affect her in 10 or 12 years not 30. She has been working and paying in since she was 18 and the Ryan plan makes her nervous.

Dennis D on September 20, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Sorry dude, but look, I’m 51 and I have read the actual law for social security. It’s a tax, you are not paying into an account held in your name. The Government is not legally required to reimburse anyone paying FICA.

Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) tax (play /ˈfaɪkə/) is a United States Federal payroll (or employment) tax[1] imposed on both employees and employers to fund Social Security and Medicare[2] —federal programs that provide benefits for retirees, the disabled, and children of deceased workers. Social Security benefits include old-age, survivors, and disability insurance (OASDI); Medicare provides hospital insurance benefits for the elderly. The amount that one pays in payroll taxes throughout one’s working career is associated indirectly with the social security benefits annuity that one receives as a retiree.[citation needed] This has caused some to claim that the payroll tax is not a tax because its collection is tied to a benefit.[3] The United States Supreme Court decided in Flemming v. Nestor (1960) that no one has an accrued property right to benefits from Social Security.

The Federal Insurance Contributions Act is currently codified at Title 26, Subtitle C, Chapter 21 of the United States Code.[4]

Like it or not, that is the reality of the situation.

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Tsk tsk…poor little Tommyhawk,dante and bidfis…sounds like you crybabies are panicking…Romney up in Gallup poll to tie with Obummer and Obummer falling fast (46%)in the “like-ability” polls…just the beginning weak minded ones…maybe a pirate will swoop in and save his a**

LaRepublican on September 20, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Oh, my.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

So what’s the plan to save Medicare from the rat-eared bastard and his corrupt party? There’s lots of talk about increasing taxes on the rich (now down to anybody earning more than $100K) but that doesn’t even come close to filling the funding gap. I’m sick and tired of stupid economically illiterate trolls finding fault with Romney/Ryan without providing a single alternative. As if reelecting the rat-eared bastard will make the problems go away. Sorry hope and change have an expiration date and it is time for the rat-eared bastard to put up or shut up.

Happy Nomad on September 20, 2012 at 2:09 PM

I don’t want to save it. I want to eliminate it.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM

I would prefer the ad if it were truthful. Rubio ended it with ” when we retire in 30 years”. This is not the case. My wife is 53. This would also affect her in 10 or 12 years not 30. She has been working and paying in since she was 18 and the Ryan plan makes her nervous.

Dennis D on September 20, 2012 at 1:41 PM

You can’t handle the truth! The truth is Medicare will not be around in 10 or 12 years. Something has to be done and the rat-eared bastard and his whole filthy party refuse to even come up with a plan to deal with the issue. Rubio is correct- the issue comes down to math and not politics. Where are the Dems on this issue? NOWHERE!

Happy Nomad on September 20, 2012 at 2:15 PM

I don’t want to save it. I want to eliminate it.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM

To be replaced with complete seizure of healthcare and establishment of a single-payer healthcare system operated by government bureaucracy no doubt. Be careful what you wish for, mental fitness will be a factor when you go before the death panel.

Happy Nomad on September 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Something has to be done…

Happy Nomad on September 20, 2012 at 2:15 PM

The famous words of a big government lover. This is how all interventionism begins.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D, the greatest entitlement expansion in decades.

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

RYAN IS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE

and the sheep swallow it whole

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 1:55 PM

And what’s your practical and guaranteed solution, sunshine?

kim roy on September 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

To be replaced with complete seizure of healthcare and establishment of a single-payer healthcare system operated by government bureaucracy no doubt. Be careful what you wish for, mental fitness will be a factor when you go before the death panel.

Happy Nomad on September 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM

No. To be replaced by the free market. But I understand why someone like you who willingly shackles his mind would make that assumption.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

I don’t want to save it. I want to eliminate it.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM

I want the same thing!

Eliminate the wealth transfer.

Americans have no Morals worth being be respected.

The wealth transfer from the weak and poorer young to the capable and far more wealthy is reprehensible.

Republicans should be educating people on why these programs are bad for individuals and bad for the nation as whole instead of being the tax collectors and stabilizers of the socialist welfare state!

How far we have fallen since 2010, how far we have fallen.

astonerii on September 20, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Just saw space shuttle Endeavor being ferried to its museum spot. Flew right past my place.

Thanks Obama for killing the manned space program. Your “Forward” slogan is an Orwellian bastardization of the word.

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Just saw space shuttle Endeavor being ferried to its museum spot. Flew right past my place.

Thanks Obama for killing the manned space program. Your “Forward” slogan is an Orwellian bastardization of the word.

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Good. What a complete waste of money. Now let’s mothball the rest of NASA.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Still no gas prices. Idiots.

rickyricardo on September 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

That would be kinda be silly…what, you think people don’t know how much they pay for the gas? They need a reminder?? And what would such an ad say exactly, other than state the obvious??…

jimver on September 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Good. What a complete waste of money. Now let’s mothball the rest of NASA.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Now let’s mothball you, if it doesn’t work we can just ignore you and your inept comments, I suppose…

jimver on September 20, 2012 at 2:30 PM

No. To be replaced by the free market. But I understand why someone like you who willingly shackles his mind would make that assumption.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Add in personal responsibility, charity and the freemarket.

It all starts with the self. It should then move outward with ever decreasing responsibility.

Self, Family, Extended family, charity and community, local, state and finally federal. But the time you get much past charity and community there is effectly 0 real responsibility towards almost the entire population. Only the military and some government jobs which place individuals in danger of harm should there be responsibility of this degree on the tax payer.

astonerii on September 20, 2012 at 2:32 PM

I don’t want to save it. I want to eliminate it.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM

So you are perfectly happy with having taxed all of us who have paid into the system for the past 30 or 40 years and eliminating the program leaving us like the victims of a pyramid scheme, except that we had no choice but to have 15% of our incomes confiscated?

Yes, the program needs to be eliminated, but you can’t take a program, even if it was unconstitutional, confiscate earnings while promising benefits, then just eliminate it. This has to be done in an incremental manner such that those just entering the workforce now will be in a fully privatized and non-governmental system when they retire, while those who have been scammed for the past 75 years are not left high and dry.

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM

So you are perfectly happy with having taxed all of us who have paid into the system for the past 30 or 40 years and eliminating the program leaving us like the victims of a pyramid scheme, except that we had no choice but to have 15% of our incomes confiscated?

Yes, the program needs to be eliminated, but you can’t take a program, even if it was unconstitutional, confiscate earnings while promising benefits, then just eliminate it. This has to be done in an incremental manner such that those just entering the workforce now will be in a fully privatized and non-governmental system when they retire, while those who have been scammed for the past 75 years are not left high and dry.

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM

More intellectual dishonesty. No, I’m not happy about it at all, and I disagree that it requires a gradual, incremental reduction. I’m not in favor of substituting something evil with something less evil.

So why can’t you just eliminate it? Give me a good reason that doesn’t involve seizing more money from people.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Good. What a complete waste of money. Now let’s mothball the rest of NASA.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:26 PM

I’ll disagree with you on this. Space is an important aspect of our future. Having the government pave the way and keep it safe from enemy action is highly important. From manned missions to actual colony building, which feeds the nations character of explorers, these are things the government should be doing.

Based on your argument against NASA I can imagine the Lousiana purchase and Stewards Folly both would have been anethama to your world view. I do not share that aspect of your world view. You should maybe reconsider. NASA is NOT bankrupting the nation.

astonerii on September 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

So you are perfectly happy with having taxed all of us who have paid into the system for the past 30 or 40 years and eliminating the program leaving us like the victims of a pyramid scheme, except that we had no choice but to have 15% of our incomes confiscated?

Yes, the program needs to be eliminated, but you can’t take a program, even if it was unconstitutional, confiscate earnings while promising benefits, then just eliminate it. This has to be done in an incremental manner such that those just entering the workforce now will be in a fully privatized and non-governmental system when they retire, while those who have been scammed for the past 75 years are not left high and dry.

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM

You had the power of the vote for all of those 30 or 40 years. What did you do with it? You had the power of free speech for all of those 30 to 40 years, what did you do with it?

It is a pyramid scheme. So I guess your argument is that because you failed to act earlier and pushed off the day it gets illiminated YOU should be the last group to get the benefits by making those AFTER YOU be the continued victims? You had power! 30 to 40 years of it. You failed, not my daughter!

You did have a choice. You had the power of the vote. You did not use it. I cannot think of a single time when Americans stood up and said it was time to get rid of these socialist welfare systems. But now that they are bankrupt, what you want is to be given more from others less wealthy than you and make them victims, not you.

astonerii on September 20, 2012 at 2:46 PM

I’ll disagree with you on this. Space is an important aspect of our future. Having the government pave the way and keep it safe from enemy action is highly important. From manned missions to actual colony building, which feeds the nations character of explorers, these are things the government should be doing.

Based on your argument against NASA I can imagine the Lousiana purchase and Stewards Folly both would have been anethama to your world view. I do not share that aspect of your world view. You should maybe reconsider. NASA is NOT bankrupting the nation.

astonerii on September 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Ok, for argument’s sake, let’s accept as true your pronouncement that “Space is an important aspect of our future.”

That in no way whatsoever means that because it’s an important aspect of our future, government must be involved.

My position has nothing to do with bankrupting the nation.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:49 PM

….and its funny that most of trolls are white, twentyish, ealy 30ish white males operating out of Obamas operation center in Chitown.

There was a nice write up about this concerted effort to surpress Republican enthusiasm online. Obamas record
Cant be defended with facts and figures, so alternative means are employed…we’ll see how they do.

rickyricardo on September 20, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Very good feeling in this ad… a way to attack with facts.

I think this is going to be very effective.

I think the campaign has a good plan to take Florida

But I am still worried about Ohio. I hear it tends to go Republican at the last minute… and that some people are very comfortable we will take it.

But the polls….

I hope the coal ads will swing it.

Some good news. Yesterday I was on a chat with a campaign worker in Iowa who told us that the internal campaign polling in Iowa says Mitt is up 3 points in Iowa.

Here’s hoping WI and Iowa are like minded this year.

petunia on September 20, 2012 at 2:55 PM

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM

I want to make this perfectly clear so you know my position.

I do not see you as a victim. I do not see 80 year olds as victims. What I see are the very people who are the criminals who voted for ever increasing wealth transfers from younger people to older ones. I grew up in the 80′s with Reagan on the TV. I never imagined there would be money in those accounts to pay for me, and I still do not. I do not count myself as a victim, even if I get nothing in return for the money I paid in TAXES. More than 24 years of them. I work to get rid of them, for 20 of those 24 years. I have written presidents and congressmen on them.

It is you and the current elderly who are the criminals in this, not victims.

astonerii on September 20, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D, the greatest entitlement expansion in decades.

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

RYAN IS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE

and the sheep swallow it whole

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 1:55 PM

And what’s your practical and guaranteed solution, sunshine?

kim roy on September 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM
Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:26 PM
Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:49 PM

*sad face* How come you don’t want to answer my question, Mr. Dante? You have plenty of criticism, but no practical or useful suggestions. Why is that?

kim roy on September 20, 2012 at 2:56 PM

I want to make this perfectly clear so you know my position.

I do not see you as a victim. I do not see 80 year olds as victims. What I see are the very people who are the criminals who voted for ever increasing wealth transfers from younger people to older ones. I grew up in the 80′s with Reagan on the TV. I never imagined there would be money in those accounts to pay for me, and I still do not. I do not count myself as a victim, even if I get nothing in return for the money I paid in TAXES. More than 24 years of them. I work to get rid of them, for 20 of those 24 years. I have written presidents and congressmen on them.

It is you and the current elderly who are the criminals in this, not victims.

astonerii on September 20, 2012 at 2:55 PM

So it’s totally uncool to seize people’s property for Medicare through coercion and force, but it’s totallly cool to seize people’s property for NASA through coercion and force. one transfer of wealth is uncool, but another transfer of wealth is cool.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:58 PM

I would prefer the ad if it were truthful. Rubio ended it with ” when we retire in 30 years”. This is not the case. My wife is 53. This would also affect her in 10 or 12 years not 30. She has been working and paying in since she was 18 and the Ryan plan makes her nervous.

Dennis D on September 20, 2012 at 1:41 PM

But the Ryan plan is not on the table here. The Romney plan allows a choice. Choice is good. If they make the new plan attractive enough, your wife can choose it. If not she can stay with the one now.

So it is a win/win for her. What is there to fear in that?

petunia on September 20, 2012 at 2:59 PM

*sad face* How come you don’t want to answer my question, Mr. Dante? You have plenty of criticism, but no practical or useful suggestions. Why is that?

kim roy on September 20, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Because your question is inane.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:59 PM

But the Ryan plan is not on the table here. The Romney plan allows a choice. Choice is good. If they make the new plan attractive enough, your wife can choose it. If not she can stay with the one now.

So it is a win/win for her. What is there to fear in that?

petunia on September 20, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Oh, wonderful, benevolent Romney! You will “allow” us to have a choice in your great wisdom and mercy!

“President Bachmann will allow you to buy any light bulb you want!”

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM

*sad face* How come you don’t want to answer my question, Mr. Dante? You have plenty of criticism, but no practical or useful suggestions. Why is that?

kim roy on September 20, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Because your question is inane.

Dante on September 20, 2012 at 2:59 PM

So is your constant hectoring without even a sniff of a solution.

It’s easy to criticize. Do you have something to offer in the form of a solution? Since you think such a question is “inane” and you haven’t bothered to offer such as of yet, I’ll take that as a “no”.

Just another blowhard. Thanks for confirming it.

kim roy on September 20, 2012 at 3:02 PM

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