Gallup tracker: Romney now even with Obama at 47

posted at 2:41 pm on September 20, 2012 by Allahpundit

Eight days ago it was 50/44, today it’s a dead heat. I already wrote about O’s fade (or, more accurately, his disappearing convention bounce) in the Gallup tracker two days ago, so read that if you missed it then. What makes this poll interesting isn’t the raw numbers but the fact that he’s still on a downward slope despite two days of media hyperventilation over Romney’s “47 percent” remarks. That did hurt Romney a little, but if it was any sort of gamechanger I assume we’d already be seeing some evidence in tracking polls. We’re not seeing that in Gallup.

But … maybe we are in Rasmussen?

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows President Obama attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while Mitt Romney earns 45% of the vote. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided. See daily tracking history.

When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 50% and Romney 47%.

Ras had Romney ahead 47/45 on Tuesday, when I flagged O’s decline in the Gallup tracker, and 47/46 yesterday. Today, suddenly, there’s a swing towards Obama putting him back in front. Is that fallout from the “47 percent” kerfuffle or statistical noise or something else? Compounding the strangeness is that Gallup polls registered voters for its tracker while Rasmussen polls likelies, which typically are more favorable to Republicans, and yet it’s Gallup that has Romney even with O.

But wait, let’s make this stranger still. While Gallup is showing swing-state enthusiasm spiking for Democrats, Rasmussen just dropped this data from the eternally important state of Iowa:

Mitt Romney remains slightly ahead in the swing state of Iowa.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Iowa Voters shows Romney with 47% support to President Obama’s 44%. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate in the race, and five percent (5%) are still undecided.

So O’s picking up steam in Rasmussen’s tracker, but is flat and trailing in a key swing state that he won by nearly 10 points four years ago. Sufficiently confused yet? No? Okay, then let me drop this on you — from, of all places, Fox News:

President Barack Obama has the edge over Republican Mitt Romney in three potentially decisive states in the presidential election.

Obama tops Romney by seven percentage points among likely voters in both Ohio (49-42 percent) and Virginia (50-43 percent). In Florida, the president holds a five-point edge (49-44 percent)…

The good news for Romney is that among voters who are “extremely” interested in this year’s election, the races are much tighter. Obama is up by just two points with this group in Virginia (49-47 percent), Florida is tied (48-48 percent), and Romney is up by one point in Ohio (48-47 percent).

Those polls were conducted from September 16th through the 18th — the very day that Rasmussen had Romney going up two points on Obama in his daily national tracker. I have no explanations on how to square all of this data. But if I have to deal with this madness every day then, darn it, so do you.


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Just go to the RCP average and that usually nails the final result.

gumbyandpokey on September 20, 2012 at 2:50 PM
Um, no.

joejm65 on September 20, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Maybe the RCP average at the beginning of November comes close to nailing the final result, but not the RCP average on Sept. 20 before any debates and before all the polling organizations begin to get serious about their samples so they can salvage their reputations.

Right Mover on September 20, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Any state in which Romney is trailing by less than 3 percent he can win through get out the vote efforts. If you doubt that, then take a look at Neveda’s senatorial contest in 2010.

WordsMatter on September 20, 2012 at 3:09 PM

It’s the year of 47.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

..maybe time to pick up a ’47 Colt Walker?

The War Planner on September 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM

davemason2k on September 20, 2012 at 2:56 PM

u b wrong

gracie on September 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 2:59 PM

an i’m Impressed with YOUR poetry.

gerry-mittbot-poetry critic

gerrym51 on September 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM

For a week in which Romney was suppose to be teh suck and teh looz, he sure is doing well.

MeatHeadinCA on September 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Something got AP out of bed before 5pm? I’m stunned.

lorien1973 on September 20, 2012 at 2:43 PM

..some ONE did. Ed is taking the afternoon off, I think.

The War Planner on September 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM

My guess is that most people realize Obama needs to go, but they aren’t (yet) convinced that Romney will be much better. If that reading is correct, I’d rather be Romney.

Mr. D on September 20, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Exactly. It’s gonna be like a football game where the team with the lead is watching as the opponent sets up for the extra point and the win with a couple seconds on the clock. Pulling out the win at the end.

jazzmo on September 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM

..maybe time to pick up a ’47 Colt Walker?

The War Planner on September 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Receives the SWalker seal of approval… ;)

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Don’t know why it works this way, but the national polls usually show a trend first and the state polls follow. If Romney is gaining ground, as Gallup shows, or losing ground as Ras shows, the state polls will reflect the numbers.

Now, is Gallup or Rasmussen right?

I’ve always thought the race would break one way or the other. If Romney wins, he gets Florida, Ohio and Virginia, and IA, CO and probably NH would follow…maybe even WI (looks doubtful now).

If Obama wins, he gets the important trifecta and holds everything but IN and NC.

gumbyandpokey on September 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM

The poetry of Barack Obama

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Obama just can’t win if his ceiling is 47-48%. It appears to be.

jazzmo on September 20, 2012 at 3:13 PM

I’m always skeptical about internal polling. And I’m REALLY skeptical about Pennsylvania. That state has teased us way too many times. It would be a landslide if Romney stole that one from Obama.

Doughboy on September 20, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I agree on Pennsylvania. I doubt that we can win it. To win it we need 19% of Obama 2008 “White Voters” in Pennsylvania to switch to Romney in 2012 combined with 3% of Obama 2008 voters in Pennsylvania staying home in 2012. It is very difficult to happen not impossible but very difficult. The same goes for Michigan and Nevada. Same my post above for what is needed for Romney to win the battleground states in term of the MATH…

mnjg on September 20, 2012 at 3:14 PM

gumbyandpokey on September 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Why do you want the country Downgraded?

Chip on September 20, 2012 at 3:14 PM

gumbyandpokey on September 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM

When Obama loses in a landslide that makes Reagan’s look like a close race, please be sure to have someone post your suicide video to youtube.

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:15 PM

gumbyandpokey on September 20, 2012

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KOOLAID2 on September 20, 2012 at 3:15 PM

The War Planner on September 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Why you are the great one, brother.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I’m always skeptical about internal polling. And I’m REALLY skeptical about Pennsylvania. That state has teased us way too many times. It would be a landslide if Romney stole that one from Obama.

I looked at the internals. for a state like PA. although slightly more democrats sampled too many said they were fiscal conservatives.

Not enough philly people contacted.

still nice to have a poll for us.

gerrym51 on September 20, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Most people know that Obozo has to go. Hopefully Mitt jumps on this opportunity!

anchorman on September 20, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Any state in which Romney is trailing leading by less than 3 percent he can win lose through get out the vote efforts voting fraud. If you doubt that, then take a look at Neveda’s senatorial contest in 2010.

WordsMatter on September 20, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Fixed for realism’s sake.

Archivarix on September 20, 2012 at 3:16 PM

The War Planner on September 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Why you are the great one, brother.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Tap tap tap, still waiting for someone to notice that that gun was designed by someone names…. SWALKER…. ;p

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

it is true the house votes. but i believe each state gets only one congressman. don’t ask me why.

gerrym51 on September 20, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Obama isn’t going to get the one EV from Nebraska.

Beyond that, in the event of a tie, each state gets one vote based upon its congressional delegation. The GOP has, and will continue to have, a significant advantage here. There are 30+ states that have a GOP majority, including several states with just one at-large member (ND, SD, WY, AS, MT).

matthew8787 on September 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Number Of Times Obama Has Tweeted About Jay-Z And Beyonce: 47 – Number Of Times He Tweeted About Murder Of Four Americans In Libya: 1

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Gallup will be getting the bloody horse head in the bed treatment from Holder sometime today, and the preezy will be way up tomorrow.

Rational Thought on September 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Heh…great family :)

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I asked this question the other day if RCP does any kind of internal analysis on the polls they use, and was told by several people that they just dump them into the mix as is. If they’re going to take a bunch of oversampled Dem polls, then they are not accurate.

BettyRuth on September 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM

MOLE!!!

LtGenRob on September 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM

A LITTLE NUMEROLOGY:

I have been saying that Providence will not allow Obama to be re-elected. Since we continually see the number 47 being repeated in this election, I thought I would look up the Numerology. Here it is:

One day the Lord tells to Vassula that the new Name that he carried was Y H Sh W H. By using the gematria in “n”, the numerical value of this name is 47 = 10+5+21+6+5.

47 is the numerical equivalent of the Name of God.

Chew on that liberals.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Exactly. It’s gonna be like a football game where the team with the lead is watching as the opponent sets up for the extra point and the win with a couple seconds on the clock. Pulling out the win at the end.

jazzmo on September 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM

That analogy suddenly gets very scary if we’re the Patriots…

Gingotts on September 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM

I think we will win PA but not until the final weekend with the final job report on November 2. The Super PACs will go in there late after other battlegrounds are firmed up.

matthew8787 on September 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Heh…great family :)

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM

We aim… But it usually ant to please, if ya get my drift… ;)

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM

“Number of states in the USA 47 + 10″ — Obama

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Now, is Gallup or Rasmussen right?

I like Rass because they use a three-day tracker rather than seven like Gallup…so while their partisan breaks are optimisitc, they do pick up trends earlier than Gallup. Right now, it appears there’s a bump for O. The next few days will tell whether this bump is just noise or movement based on Mitt 47s Incredibly-oh-so-very-bad-week.

newtopia on September 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM

President Barack Obama has the edge over Republican Mitt Romney in three potentially decisive states in the presidential election.
Obama tops Romney by seven percentage points among likely voters in both Ohio (49-42 percent) and Virginia (50-43 percent). In Florida, the president holds a five-point edge (49-44 percent)…

Despite the conservative tilt of their news coverage, Fox News polls often use Democrat-heavy samples. It’s not clear whether Democrat and liberal voters have such a visceral hatred of Fox News that the jump on the opportunity to snub Fox News by saying they will vote Democrat, or whether Fox News deliberately chooses skewed samples to scare Republicans out of compacency and start campaigning harder.

I tried to find the internals on the Fox News website, but the links alternate between two web pages which don’t give internals. The Fox News webpage does say that Independent voters are evenly divided in all three states, meaning that they probably sampled more Democrats than Republicans in order to give Obama a lead.

Steve Z on September 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Neither one would make it through a beginning poetry workshop. The second of the two would actually stand the better chance, however, given it has no real meaning, it too, would fail.

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Love word plays :)

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Yeah this sounds completely unhinged and stupid. But the thing is, if you squint really hard it really makes perfect sense.

tommyhawk on September 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM

..sayeth the Prince of the terminally Unhinged and Truly Stupid. Squinting a lot these days, are you not?

The War Planner on September 20, 2012 at 3:21 PM

The name of Adam is mentioned 47 times in the Bible.

In he Synoptic Gospels, demons are mentioned 47 times.

47 is considered to be the Number of The Law.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 3:21 PM

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

I knew you’d catch that!:)

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Amazing what a dead diplomat and 3 other dead State Dept. employees will do for ya, huh?

And a tanking economy.

And massive structural workforce decline.

And the threat of hyperinflation from the Fed.

And hustling a maker of bad art off in the middle of the night.

And rewarding cronies.

And bankrupting the Nation.

Why its almost a wonder that Romney can even compete against that record, huh? Yet reality keeps on poking its ugly head into the campaign… often leaving bloody hand prints behind…

ajacksonian on September 20, 2012 at 3:22 PM

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Oafish stuff, puerile idiocy. Incredibly the NYSlimes printed…

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:22 PM

No, poetic justice would be Romney 99/1

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Only if the 1 is for Gary Johnson. Since when does Zero deserve anything better?

Gingotts on September 20, 2012 at 3:23 PM

I tried to find the internals on the Fox News website, but the links alternate between two web pages which don’t give internals. The Fox News webpage does say that Independent voters are evenly divided in all three states, meaning that they probably sampled more Democrats than Republicans in order to give Obama a lead.

Steve Z on September 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM

..FNS poll results are designed to always teade you into watching the terminally self-referential BOREilly and the constantly interrupting Hannity for succor.

The War Planner on September 20, 2012 at 3:24 PM

BuzzFeedBen “you can’t change Washington from the inside” is perhaps Obama’s worst gaffe since he met Joe the Plumber

ConservativePartyNow on September 20, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Wow. Even Obama concedes Romney would be better.

GOPRanknFile on September 20, 2012 at 3:24 PM

My Vietnamese air conditioning sub contractor just asked me for 10 registrations here in FL so he and his friends could vote for Romney. I told them there will be no work if the economy collapses under Obama. Turn out is key.

brut4ce on September 20, 2012 at 3:24 PM

ConservativePartyNow, the oaf doesn’t even realize the immediate question that idiocy begs for “why did you take the top seat of the inside then?”

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Wow, imagine if Romney hadn’t had such a horrible week.

scalleywag on September 20, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Man the obama for America trolls ate out in force. I’ve heard they are paying these youngsters and hourly to spam conservative sites to supress enthusiasm.

Nice work if u can get it.

rickyricardo on September 20, 2012 at 3:26 PM

RASMUSSEN TODAY:

47% Say Their Home is Worth More Than What They Owe.

Again, 47.

People, synchronicity like this has meaning.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

I knew you’d catch that!:)

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:22 PM

ROTFLMAO… How could I not? One of my little brothers has a pair of those tattooed on his chest. (Navy tattoos at that) ;)

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

No, poetic justice would be Romney 99/1

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:08 PM

If I were to dream, I wouldn’t want that. I would prefer 86/14, with blacks casting 100% votes for Obama in the exit polls. I want to close the door on any Affirmative Action minority candidates, and I want the door nailed shut for generations.

Archivarix on September 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:22 PM

The thing that stood out about ‘Pop’ was how vile the imagery was and how his own ego is meant to trump the father image. There is even the violence of suggesting that the very notion of ‘pop’ could be located in the brain and ‘squeezed out like a watermelon seed between two fingers.’ Pop, indeed.

Psychiatrists often encourage their more disturbed patients to write, particularly what the patient considers poetry. It is another tool used to reveal deeper disturbances and their nature.

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Nice work if u can get it.

Not to worry, I’m sure they’re counteracted nicely by all the Mittbots paid to keep up morale…no matter what Mitt says.

newtopia on September 20, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Number Of Times Obama Has Tweeted About Jay-Z And Beyonce: 47 – Number Of Times He Tweeted About Murder Of Four Americans In Libya: 1
Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

…he cares about people!…just not dead people.

KOOLAID2 on September 20, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Poles are what gumbypoked got his thrills from in the miserable life of his.

bayview on September 20, 2012 at 3:29 PM

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Now that’s dedication and family pride!

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:29 PM

newtopia

…sits on toilet while posting

KOOLAID2 on September 20, 2012 at 3:30 PM

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Now that’s dedication and family pride!

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:29 PM

That or a masochist tendency…. o_O

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:30 PM

This thread will be swarming with trolls instantly. For some reason they can’t seem to pass up a poll.

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 2:44 PM

… and right on cue

tommyhawk on September 20, 2012 at 2:44 PM

gumbyandpokey on September 20, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Seem to be missing a few of the remaining 29 active trolls right now. Expect the paulbots to be here shortly.

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 3:32 PM

newtopia on September 20, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Nope. Mitt supporters haveleave the house and go to work for living. They’re not living in Mom’s basement. By the way, what did she fix you for lunch?

kingsjester on September 20, 2012 at 3:32 PM

haveleave = have to leave.

kingsjester on September 20, 2012 at 3:33 PM

RASMUSSEN TODAY:

47% Say Their Home is Worth More Than What They Owe.

Again, 47.

People, synchronicity like this has meaning.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Then they should remember Barry and his lawsuit against Citibank that ushered in mortgages to high risk, credit unworthy individuals that played a large part in bring down Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and the collapse of the housing market.

bayview on September 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:28 PM

He is clinically NPD’d, no doubt whatsoever. A great thesis will be written by a good psychology student…if only it w/b done already.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Yes. To be honest, I prefer no tattoo’s, but that’s just me.

It seems like a lot of effort and pain, and I’m the kind of person who doesn’t like wallpaper because I get tired of the pattern and want to change it all the time. I’d have a real problem with tattoo’s.

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Seem to be missing a few of the remaining 29 active trolls right now. Expect the paulbots to be here shortly.

AZfederalist on September 20, 2012 at 3:32 PM

I thought they only showed up after 5pm? You know, have to get prepared for their daily 4:20 rituals and stuff…

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Rasmussen is way more accurate than Gallup. If they have Obama up, he is probably up. But is it statistical noise or something with legs? I m confident it will pass and Mitt will regain the lead.

Jack_Burton on September 20, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Wanna know how Gallup spins a headline to favor Obama? Look at this:

Globally, Men, White-Collar Workers Upbeat on Job Market

In reality, men think that by 57 to 34% this is a BAD time to be looking for a job. So, the large majority believes it is a BAD time to look for a job yet the headline makes you believe men are upbeat.

The point of the article is NOT that men are upbeat but that they are slightly more upbeat than women.

That’s NOT what the headline says.

You see this kind of headline hackery all the time at Gallup.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I agree, and I might add that I think if he spent some time on a good psychiatrist’s couch we would find there are even greater problems underlying that narcissism.

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Again, 47.

People, synchronicity like this has meaning.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

It is a foreshadowing of the coming of 42.

The Hitchhiker’s Guide tells me so.

ajacksonian on September 20, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I agree, and I might add that I think if he spent some time on a good psychiatrist’s couch we would find there are even greater problems underlying that narcissism.

thatsafactjack on September 20, 2012 at 3:37 PM

No amount of time on a shrinks couch can explain why anyone would gleefully brag about eating dog in a country that considers dog eating an abomination.

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM

My guess is that the race is 50/50 right now. Notice how most of Rasmussen’s variations are in the margin of error. A point or two to Romney, a point or two to Obama. In other words, depending on the respondents for that day, there will be some variation.

However, what is clear is that Obama’s bounce is gone. And as Obama’s bounce goes, the swing state polls will also become dead heats.

I honestly think this stays that way for 2.5 weeks now. The next moving event will be the first debate. I think the media has inadvertantly done Obama a disservice by attacking Mitt. I think that in many undecided voters minds, the media has lowered Romney to a point where a solid debate performance (and the man is a Harvard educated businessman, which he can live up to), will elevate him in people’s minds. So, he should come out of that and begin creating space on Obama.

Regardless, there are 3 events left that will move the needle, and the bar is pretty low for Romney, and one that he should be able to overcome pretty easily. And once he does that, he will win with 52% of the vote, and 300 electoral votes.

milcus on September 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Wait until the debates when Romney points out REAL UNEMPLOYMENT of 20%, and points out that Ambassador Stevens was TORTURED and MURDERED in an Al Qaeda attack, and the preezy AND THE MEDIA covered it up. Wait for that. The preezy will be foaming at the mouth.

Rational Thought on September 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM

You see this kind of headline hackery all the time at Gallup.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Reuters, Yahoo et all do it too, repeatedly, daily.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Star Trek

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM

He is clinically NPD’d, no doubt whatsoever. A great thesis will be written by a good psychology student…if only it w/b done already.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM

We all knew the preezy had NPD — one of the worst public cases I have ever seen — but we REALLY knew it when it was dropped from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual in…December 2010! Those leftists in the psychiatric/psychology industry knew they had a textook case in the White House, and people were really starting to talk about this very, very sick man leading the free world, so what to do? What to do? Can’t have our people being asked to diagnose the president and find him afflicted. Especially when there is NO KNOWN CURE! Oh, no, we’ll just drop it from the diagnostic manual all together. If it doesn’t exist, the preezy can’t have it!

Rational Thought on September 20, 2012 at 3:48 PM

These are the Obama paid fanboyz who are behind the supress the vote trolling efforts. I know the guy on the left. Guess which one is a speechwriter for Obama?

Seriously. These are the überhip hotshotz behind Obamas operation. Spam trolling included.

Obamaz Boyz

rickyricardo on September 20, 2012 at 3:50 PM

The 47 Ronin

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Rational Thought on September 20, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Thank you for the reminder. It makes Goebbels get excited in his grave, again.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Thank you for the reminder. It makes Goebbels get excited in his grave, again.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Godwin’s look it up and work on you rmaterial ffs.

tommyhawk on September 20, 2012 at 3:56 PM

I honestly think this stays that way for 2.5 weeks now. The next moving event will be the first debate. I think the media has inadvertantly done Obama a disservice by attacking Mitt. I think that in many undecided voters minds, the media has lowered Romney to a point where a solid debate performance (and the man is a Harvard educated businessman, which he can live up to), will elevate him in people’s minds. So, he should come out of that and begin creating space on Obama.

Regardless, there are 3 events left that will move the needle, and the bar is pretty low for Romney, and one that he should be able to overcome pretty easily. And once he does that, he will win with 52% of the vote, and 300 electoral votes.

milcus on September 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM

That’s a very good point. By now, some imagine Romney as this wild-eyed fringe character who kicks puppies on his way to steal from the downtrodden, Ebenezer Scrooge and Gordon Gekko rolled into one. As such, the bar is pretty low. Obama, on the other hand, will be expected to blow him out of the water.

changer1701 on September 20, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Wait until the debates when Romney points out REAL UNEMPLOYMENT of 20%, and points out that Ambassador Stevens was TORTURED and MURDERED in an Al Qaeda attack, and the preezy AND THE MEDIA covered it up. Wait for that. The preezy will be foaming at the mouth.

Rational Thought on September 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Yeah…that story gets worse every day.

I don’t think Obama’s Pakistani Apology TV commercials are helping either.

workingclass artist on September 20, 2012 at 3:59 PM

POLLS- SHMOLLS !!

Forget the National Polls – THEY MEAN NOTHING- Ask Al Ghore

OHIO
VIRGINIA

Thats the whole damn ball game ! 272 – 266

Colorado and New Mexico – Would be nice though.

But it will be a squeaker- regardless WHAT THE LYING POLLS tell you

FlaMurph on September 20, 2012 at 4:00 PM

tommyhawk on September 20, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Look up your brain. You’d benefit from it.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 4:07 PM

All you hand wringers relax. Romney’s got this.

rollthedice on September 20, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Certain people seem to want Romney to lose and the country to go socialist just so they can say they were right about Romney.
Sick people.

Hard Right on September 20, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Rational Thought, on cue, ducking questions on Benghazi.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 4:11 PM

It is clear that the legacy media is having less and less impact on the election…

d1carter on September 20, 2012 at 4:11 PM

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canopfor on September 20, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Do you want to know a big reason polls oversample Democrats?

I just got called my a pollster in the middle of my work day.

1) The Caller ID said “private”. Normally I would never even answer that but I was expecting a call from a number that always shows up as private so I took the call.

2) Then the pollster informed me the call would take about 19 minutes. Who the hell has 19 minutes in the middle of the work day to talk to a pollster? Not the makers for sure.

3) Last point. In this day and age of identity theft, anyone worth a damn is pretty suspicious of anyone calling from a private number asking personal questions.

So the whole polling process is biased towards the takers who actually have time for such things.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 4:15 PM

tommyhawk on September 20, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Look up your brain.

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2012 at 4:07 PM

He would need a magnifying glass for that…

jimver on September 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM

newtopia on September 20, 2012 at 3:28 PM

You can trust Big Media. They will never steer you wrong, Kenneth.

FlaMurph on September 20, 2012 at 4:19 PM

It’s the year of 47.

Has anyone mentioned that Mitt was born in 1947?

lynncgb on September 20, 2012 at 4:20 PM

So the whole polling process is biased towards the takers who actually have time for such things.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 4:15 PM

That is probably correct, I know I would never answer one for the reasons you enumerated in your post…

jimver on September 20, 2012 at 4:20 PM

newtopia on September 20, 2012 at 3:28 PM

You can trust Big Media. They will never steer you wrong, Kenneth.

FlaMurph on September 20, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Whats the frequency Kenneth… ;p

SWalker on September 20, 2012 at 4:20 PM

It’s the year of 47.

Has anyone mentioned that Mitt was born in 1947?

lynncgb on September 20, 2012 at 4:20 PM

:) tell us more about numerology :) and while we are at it, what star sign he is? :) kidding, of course…

jimver on September 20, 2012 at 4:22 PM

kidding, of course…

jimver on September 20, 2012 at 4:22 PM

:-)

lynncgb on September 20, 2012 at 4:27 PM

So the whole polling process is biased towards the takers who actually have time for such things.

mitchellvii on September 20, 2012 at 4:15 PM

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Good Point.

Also though, Who verifies the results ? How does anyone take ANY poll for its face value. Is there anyone that stupid to think if your a pollster, and your guy isn’t getting the response they want, they don’t fudge the numbers.

They are HIDING behind the D/R/I numbers. Sure , their sampling numbers are skewed…. but thats only the half of it. These people polled are anything but random. The pollsters know how to get the results they are looking for.

OHIO and VIRGINIA- Thats all anyone needs to know.

FlaMurph on September 20, 2012 at 4:29 PM

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