US suspends joint operations with Afghans after insider attacks; Update: ISAF blames … YouTube video

posted at 10:01 am on September 18, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Michael Yon first picked up on this yesterday, and CBS confirmed last night that the US has suspended joint field operations with Afghan security forces in response to a string of “insider attacks” that have killed a number of American and British troops.  Any joint field operations have to have the approval of a three-star general, which is the same thing as saying that there won’t be any at all.  It took 36 incidents and 51 deaths to produce this rather stunning order, which greatly threatens either the American timeline for withdrawal or the ability to stay in Afghanistan at all:

The strategy for getting U.S. forces out of Afghanistan depends on training Afghan soldiers and police to protect the country themselves, but on Monday the U.S. military suspended most joint field operations with Afghan forces because so many Americans are being killed by the men they are training.

Afghan government troops — our allies — have turned their guns on NATO forces 36 times this year, killing 51, most of them Americans. That is more attacks than the last two years combined.

The order effectively suspends “until further notice” most of the operations which U.S. and Afghan troops conduct side by side. At higher headquarters, Afghans and Americans will still work together, but in the field small unit operations putting Afghan soldiers alongside Americans — the guts of the U.S. strategy to turn the fighting over to Afghans — will be suspended unless an exception is granted by a commanding general.

The money quote comes at the end, related from an unnamed US official: “We have got to do a better job at protecting our troops.”  How do we do that, though?  As I recall, we didn’t have these kinds of problems in Iraq, at least not to the extent we’re seeing in Afghanistan.  We had a much bigger footprint in Iraq, though, and the underlying conflict was less tribal and the nation’s self-image more coherent than in Afghanistan.

Our entire strategy in both the Bush and Obama administrations has been to use the NATO paradigm to keep a smaller footprint while lifting up the Afghan security forces to a status of being able to defend the government themselves.  If the security forces we’re raising up are attacking us because they’re loyal to the Taliban, then we’re going to leave behind a Trojan horse that could swiftly decapitate the elected government in Kabul.  If the security forces are attacking us because they resent Americans but are still loyal to the present government, we’re going to have to leave with these forces unready to defend the government.  If they’re attacking us because the Afghans do a lousy job of vetting recruits, then we’ll have the worst of both of those worlds.

Either way, we’re looking at a very tough decision, because clearly the security forces won’t be ready to take our place in 2014.  If we can’t hold joint field operations with the security forces we’re arming and training, then we will either have to stick around to weed out the bad actors — which could take several years past the 2014 withdrawal date — or we’ll have to leave and let the whole thing collapse behind us.

Update: Is there anything that a cheesy YouTube video can’t excuse?  Via Jeff Emanuel, the ISAF blamed Innocence of Muslims for the suspension:

Recent media coverage regarding a change in ISAF’s model of Security Force Assistance (SFA) to the Afghan National Security Forces is not accurate. ISAF remains absolutely committed to partnering with, training, advising and assisting our ANSF counterparts. The ISAF SFA model is focused at the battalion level and above, with exceptions approved by senior commanders. Partnering occurs at all levels, from Platoon to Corps. This has not changed.

In response to elevated threat levels resulting from the “Innocence of Muslims” video, ISAF has taken some prudent, but temporary, measures to reduce our profile and vulnerability to civil disturbances or insider attacks. This means that in some local instances, operational tempo has been reduced, or force protection has been increased. These actions balance the tension of the recent video with force protection, while maintaining the momentum of the campaign.

We’ve done this before in other high tension periods, and it has worked well. Under this guidance, and as conditions change, we will continue to adapt the force posture and force protection. The SFA model is integral to the success of the ANSF, and ISAF will return to normal operations as soon as conditions warrant.

The only problem with this explanation is that the green-on-blue attacks in Afghanistan have been rising all year long, while the controversy over this film is barely a week old.  Are they saying that the losses previous to last week were acceptable, but now they need to take action?  Al-Jazeera never even mentioned the film last week while noting that the green-on-blue attacks have risen dramatically all year long.  Last month, ScrollPost offered the data on the rapid increase, and linked to a Reuters report (among others) on the escalating security crisis from August 14th:

The Pentagon said on Tuesday it was expanding counterintelligence staff in Afghanistan after a rise in insider attacks by Afghans thought to be friendly to U.S. forces but who have killed 37 coalition troops so far this year.

Last Friday, six U.S. troops were killed in two separate incidents, one which saw an Afghan police commander and several of his men kill three U.S. Marines after inviting them to a Ramadan breakfast to discuss security.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said he was deeply concerned by the killings “because of the lives lost and because of the potential damage to our partnership efforts.”

The increasing number of incidents have eroded trust between the allies just as NATO combat troops prepare to hand over security control to Afghan forces by 2014.

General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at the same news conference that the U.S. military was bolstering counterintelligence expertise at the battalion level and above in Afghanistan.

The ISAF statement stretches credulity a bit, to say the least.


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And all it took was the deaths of 50+ young men. Someone should get shot for taking this long to realize the obvious. Some people, like some animals, simply can’t be domesticated.

abobo on September 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM

abobo on September 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Political correctness is slow suicide.

Oil Can on September 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM

About time.

What a freak’n mess.

WisRich on September 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM

As I recall, we didn’t have these kinds of problems in Iraq, at least not to the extent we’re seeing in Afghanistan.

It also helps for the CINC to be at security meetings…

right2bright on September 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Time to leave!

Timothy S. Carlson on September 18, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Decision a bit overdue… time to go…

Khun Joe on September 18, 2012 at 10:07 AM

US suspends joint operations with Afghans after insider attacks

Time to blast off and Nuke the site from orbit… It’s the only way to be sure…

The Obamanation Administration Lies while the Middle East Burns.

SWalker on September 18, 2012 at 10:09 AM

It took 36 incidents and 51 deaths to produce this rather stunning order

…they were right on it!…thought they’d wait until at least 100 or 1000 of our people had died…for coughing or sneezing or showing the bottom of their boots… in offense to their hosts!

KOOLAID2 on September 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM

We shouldn’t be nation building, OBL is dead and the Taliban are taking over the rest of the country when we leave regardless of when that is. NeoCon nor Progressives can change that. We need to be home guarding our own borders not fighting for a country that lives in the 8th century. I know…I know…many of you neocons are salivating at another costly war in Iran.

MoreLiberty on September 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Why isn’t the President of the United States speaking about Afghanistan?

mwbri on September 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Why isn’t the President of the United States speaking about Afghanistan?

mwbri on September 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM

He’s not up to speed on events since he hasn’t been in on the meetings lately.

Roulette doesn’t play itself, you know.

Bigot.

Bishop on September 18, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Why isn’t the President of the United States speaking about Afghanistan?

mwbri on September 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Because Obama is the one who lost Afghanistan back to the Taliban.

sentinelrules on September 18, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Is anyone else listening to Beck today???

hoosiermama on September 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM

If we can’t hold joint field operations with the security forces we’re arming and training, then we will either have to stick around to weed out the bad actors — which could take several years past the 2014 withdrawal date — or we’ll have to leave and let the whole thing collapse behind us.

Does anyone seriously think that there’s a finite amount of “bad actors” to weed out?
It’s a country of bad actors. Let their country collapse on them.

CarolynM on September 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM

in offense to their hosts!

KOOLAID2 on September 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM

And why for the love of God are we referring to them as “Our Hosts” as if were at some kind of dinner party? I absolutely positively guarantee you that nothing our military does in Afghanistan is more offensive than….. Invading their country and killing tens of thousands of their citizens.

If we are even remotely capable of being honest then there is no point in trying to not offend them further, we are still in their country killing their citizens by the thousands. The Afghanies do not consider the Jihasies the bad guys, they are in fact considered the good guys by the Afghanies.

Whichever imbecile thought we could use the “Win their hearts and minds” ideology really ought to be thrown into prison for aiding and abetting the enemy during a war.

SWalker on September 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Thank God. It’s CRIMINAL that it took 51 deaths to make this decision, but then again, there’s so much criminality going on in this criminal Administration, so no one should be surprised.

ellifint on September 18, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Beck has a State Dept. source who is saying the Muslim Brotherhood’s greatest wish is for the Blind Sheik (WTC1 bombing) to be released to Egypt, and is why they met at the WH. The Justice Dept. has denied, State Dept. has not. Beck says if Romney is elected, he’ll be released between election and inauguration, if Obama is not forced to deny it. He said if this happens, the Bubba Effect will kick in, as citizens say “hell, no.” Anarchy, confusion, conflict.

hoosiermama on September 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM

I suggest we pull the troops out of that medieval outhouse called “Afghanistan” and send them their “blind sheik”, tied to a nuclear 10-megaton warhead.

Archivarix on September 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Yeah, but…the media won’t be able to cover this because of Romney’s “gaaafffee” .

Mornin Joe.

bluealice on September 18, 2012 at 10:27 AM

or we’ll have to leave and let the whole thing collapse behind us.

Are you serious? It’s going to collapse behind us anyway, have you no knowledge of this “country’s” history. The Taliban will take over as soon as we leave. Oh there will be small pockets of Karzi troops, but like the former Soviet backed government, they will be besieged and fall.

MoreLiberty on September 18, 2012 at 10:28 AM

The poison of Obama’s foreign policy is not just the trashing of US embassies, the murder of ambassadors, the feckless and shameful apologies for non-existent slights, the lost war in Afghanistan and the abandonment of Iraq but also the sissification of of our military with political correctness and “sensitivity trainiing” which not only led to these green on blue attacks but to US generals acting as PC water carriers begging a film maker, exercising his constitutional rights, to cease and desist.

MaiDee on September 18, 2012 at 10:28 AM

we should till salt into the poppy fields, pop a cap in Karzai’s ass, then leave.

bannor on September 18, 2012 at 10:28 AM

— or we’ll have to leave and let the whole thing collapse behind us.

Our troops have done an amazing job killing thousands of AQ and Taliban in this shit hole of a “country”, and could well have finished the job but for the idiotic rules of engagement they were given. I say change the ROEs or bring these heroes home, yesterday.

When the Taliban and AQ return, as inevitably they will, then be ready to flatten the damned place if and when any further attacks from there come our way. You’re not going to win there with sissy ROEs, and it’s hard enough even with wide open ones, as the Russians learned.

TXUS on September 18, 2012 at 10:28 AM

The moment we are out of this $hithole country things will go back to the way they were in the year 2000…what a waste of lives and money…

PatriotRider on September 18, 2012 at 10:30 AM

I suggest we pull the troops out of that medieval outhouse called “Afghanistan” and send them their “blind sheik”, tied to a nuclear 10-megaton warhead.

Archivarix on September 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Make that a 30 warhead MIRV and you got a deal…

SWalker on September 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM

“We have got to do a better job at protecting our troops.”

I know! We can hire soldiers to do this!

Oh, wait…

ajacksonian on September 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Update: ISAF blames … “anti-Islam film”

Unreal.

Red Cloud on September 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM

But I thought the mere election of Dear Liar would improve our relations with Muslims? He told us that himself.

rbj on September 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM

It’s frightening to know our military has been co -opted by the lies of the left and the Brotherhood.

The one institution that has the potential to save us….ug.

katy on September 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM

The update is really scary.

Apparently the Afghan National Army now has access to time-travel machines with which they can move forward in time to see an anti-muslim movie, then travel back to start killing American soldiers in retaliation.

This is indeed disturbing news.

Bishop on September 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Wow. So I guess I can take out the entire planet with YouTube. Let me think of something.

nitzsche on September 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM

O/T Sorry

Just read where a protester in Pakistan died from inhaling fumes from burning a US flag. Gonna be a good day. That is awesome.

msupertas on September 18, 2012 at 10:38 AM

BREAKING: Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner blaming “Gangnam Style” video for high unemployment.

Red Cloud on September 18, 2012 at 10:38 AM

ISAF blames … “anti-Islam film”

These murders of NATO and US service members pre-date that video…by years.

Sorta like that old tired meme that Gitmo created Al Qaeda terrorists.

About 2160 years ago, the Romans had an effective methodology when faced with Carthaginian intransigence. The only real question today is can we import enough salt into Afghanistan to do the job?

coldwarrior on September 18, 2012 at 10:38 AM

ISAF blamed Innocence of Muslims for the suspension

Total, complete BS. The ‘insider’ killings didn’t start last week.

ISAF should be ashamed for this kind of transparent crap. Can’t anyone tell the truth anymore?

batter on September 18, 2012 at 10:38 AM

But…but…but, Barack Obama promised us we’d been successful already.

“We broke the Taliban’s momentum. We’ve built strong Afghan security forces. The goal that I set — to defeat al Qaeda, and deny it a chance to rebuild — is within reach.” – Barack Obama. May 1st, 2012

Trafalgar on September 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM

OT but funny

Protester dies after inhaling fumes from burning American flag

HotAirian on September 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Then again, when you can’t blame Bush anymore, you need to find another scapegoat.

batter on September 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM

The only problem with this explanation is that the green-on-blue attacks in Afghanistan have been rising all year long

Doesn’t matter. The MSM will buy it.

forest on September 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM

OT but funny

Protester dies after inhaling fumes from burning American flag

HotAirian on September 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Nancy Pelosi will be wearing a black armband the rest of the week.

Bishop on September 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM

On the anniversary of his killing of Bin Laden the President took a surprise victory lap in Afghanistan earlier this year. In his televised address from Bagram Air Force Base, Obama said:

“Over the last three years, the tide has turned. The goal that I set — to defeat al-Qaeda, and deny it a chance to rebuild — is within reach.”

“It’s just the Afghan security forces we gotta watch!”

de rigueur on September 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Trafalgar on September 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Yep. Ranks right up there with “We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.”

Isn’t the President of the United States supposed to be on our side?

coldwarrior on September 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Trafalgar on September 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Beat me to it.

de rigueur on September 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

The only real question today is can we import enough salt into Afghanistan to do the job?

coldwarrior on September 18, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Dirty Hydrogen Bombs leave a “Salt Residue” behind, ok, so it’s a Uranium Sulfate/Plutonium Sulfate salt, but hey, it has the desired affect.

SWalker on September 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM

I think we should pull every American who is operating in the middle east in an official government capacity out. The nano second an attack happens against an American that can be attributed to the taliban/hezbollah/al qaeda/muslim brotherhood we turn that place into a Chernobyl redux.

If those people can’t be bothered to police themselves then they are not worth the effort or treasure we have spent. They sure as heck are not worth the blood our people have given.

JAGonzo on September 18, 2012 at 10:45 AM

de rigueur on September 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Great minds??

Trafalgar on September 18, 2012 at 10:45 AM

What is not clear is who the American forces are training the Afghanistan recruits to defeat. Who is it that we are trying to protect? From what?

“World-renowned foreign policy expert” Joe Biden says that we can negotiate with the Taliban. Heh.

It’s time to leave. If the Chinese want those minerals in the Afghanistan wasteland, let them subject their vastly expendable manpower there.

onlineanalyst on September 18, 2012 at 10:47 AM

The moment we are out of this $hithole country things will go back to the way they were in the year 2000 1200…what a waste of lives and money…

PatriotRider on September 18, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Fixed

Trafalgar on September 18, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Bad things caused by crappy internet video (that I’m aware of):
- crazy muslims people acting crazy
- murdererers murdering people
- high unemployment
- possibly global warming
- the Dave Matthews band and Greenday
- Joe Biden
- those topless Kate photos

redzap on September 18, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Why isn’t the President of the United States speaking about Afghanistan?

mwbri on September 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Hey give Obama some credit. He recently spoke out about Afghanistan to say that Romney isn’t speaking out about Afghanistan. What a gutsy CiC.

Wigglesworth on September 18, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Update: Is there anything that a cheesy YouTube video can’t excuse? Via Jeff Emanuel, the ISAF blamed Innocence of Muslims for the suspension:

The only problem with this explanation is that the green-on-blue attacks in Afghanistan have been rising all year long, while the controversy over this film is barely a week old. Al-Jazeera never even mentioned the film last week while noting that the green-on-blue attacks have risen dramatically all year long.

Yeah, but they weren’t taking out entire Harrier squadrons on our Afghan bases before. Or was that the terrorists? Or is there a difference?

de rigueur on September 18, 2012 at 10:50 AM

BTW Caroline Glick blasts the anemic excuse of the cheesy video trailer as the cause of mayhem,
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=285034

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, we have been bleeding troops there in far greater numbers during the Obama presidency than during the Bush years prior than the sycophantic media are willing to admit. No movie or accidental disposal of Korans is responsible for the loss of lives.

onlineanalyst on September 18, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Is Obama going to use that video as a reason for his reelection? The only thing he has gotten more mileage from than this movie is W.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Why not arm the Afgan forces during training with the equivalent of the arms of those patroling our southern border? That would be – beanbags, right?

News2Use on September 18, 2012 at 10:52 AM

OT but funny

Protester dies after inhaling fumes from burning American flag

HotAirian on September 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM

~~~~~~~

Hahaha!! Beautiful. It was probably made in China, and full of poison chemicals (see Chinese drywall, Chinese dog food, Chinese doggie treats)…

ellifint on September 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM

There is a a guy here in the LA area, he has a radio show and was taking about the mistake the US military made in Afghanistan. He said the Afghans told the US military they had to use the “warlord system” You work with the Warlord, and sign him and his men up. This guys says the our military rejected that idea and just allow anyone who is breathing to join up with no background check. If you use the warlord system. They know who their people are, we have no way to check them out otherwise.

Kjeil on September 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Great minds??

Trafalgar on September 18, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Whenever Obama does something, or something happens because of him, you can make some of your most provocative comments simply by going back to one of Obama’s gazillion speeches and highlight his most contradictory statement. Contrast and compare. The Romney campaign should be doing did more of that.

de rigueur on September 18, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Did the video cause global warming, or did global warming cause the creation of the video? My head hurts.

redzap on September 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM

How long until the video is responsible for the recession?

MarkT on September 18, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Trafalgar on September 18, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Thanks…

PatriotRider on September 18, 2012 at 10:57 AM

If Romney wants to seal the deal on foreign policy lay out the position that our goal recently has been to prepare Afghan security forces to take over. If we have already conceded we can’t do that, let’s pull out.

lowandslow on September 18, 2012 at 10:57 AM

The more they blame this stuff on a ridiculous YouTube video the more people may start to realize that the best thing for the Middle East is that it become inhabitable. I don’t think they realize how much using this video as an excuse could and probably will backfire.

MobileVideoEngineer on September 18, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Why isn’t the President of the United States speaking about Afghanistan?

mwbri on September 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM

According to Carney, Preezy has a lot on his plate. The Poofster has a big fundraiser in NYC with Jay-Z and Beyonce, as well as a timely visit with David Letterman. Priorities, you know.

onlineanalyst on September 18, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Yawn… the LSFM won’t print or say a thing…

I am more than tired of this crap day in and day out…

PULL our Troops OUT! And let the Afgani’s fight their own battles amongst themselves, the Russians couldn’t stop them, neither could the Brits, what makes our govt think our warriors can?

History repeating itself…

Scrumpy on September 18, 2012 at 10:59 AM

So it’s the amateur video not the Obama convention spiking the ball over and over that they got Osama? I see…

sandee on September 18, 2012 at 11:00 AM

I wonder if the Hollywood made glorification of Obama ‘getting’ OBL will actually get released now, since a 15 min clip of an obscure poorly made video caused this uproar?

Wanna bet it will hit the theaters on time?

Scrumpy on September 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM

If we simply require that all Afghani recruits publically renounce Islam, take communion and get baptized, I think we could quite effectively winnow out the jihadis. They would have to know up front that every meal would be intentionally non-halal, and that if they attacked U.S. troops, their entire family line would be executed without trial.

I’m more in favor of punitive expeditions in the future, with the creation of permanent bases in the subject area. If we have to take action against you for, oh, say, burning our embassy and killing our ambassador, we’ll take our action and a hunk of your land as well, with secure air and sea access. We’ll seal the perimeter and we won’t be using any local employees, but we will require you to pay the expense of maintaining our presence in your country. We do this so you can remember how costly it is to kill us, and so that it’s more convenient for us to respond if you ever get out of hand again.

TexasDan on September 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Get the hell out of this POS country now. The brave men and women of injured troops and the brave troops that have given their lives would agree that these dirt bag people have not been worth it. They are from another century.

Hummer53 on September 18, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Is anyone else listening to Beck today???

hoosiermama on September 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM

What is the doom and gloom moron saying today that he hasn’t been blathering on about for years?

Rio Linda Refugee on September 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM

I wonder if the Hollywood made glorification of Obama ‘getting’ OBL will actually get released now, since a 15 min clip of an obscure poorly made video caused this uproar?

Wanna bet it will hit the theaters on time?

Scrumpy on September 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM

One can only imagine the level of constipation in the WH over this.

TexasDan on September 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Update: Is there anything that a cheesy YouTube video can’t excuse?

So, six months from now, when this video will have been completely forgotten about and joint operations continue to lead to American deaths, what will the excuse be then?

Bitter Clinger on September 18, 2012 at 11:13 AM

“As I recall, we didn’t have these kinds of problems in Iraq, at least not to the extent we’re seeing in Afghanistan. We had a much bigger footprint in Iraq, though, and the underlying conflict was less tribal and the nation’s self-image more coherent than in Afghanistan.”

We did have problems like this in Iraq. The only reason why it was “easier” to work with Iraqi forces was we able to play off the Shia vs. Sunni divide…in other words of course the Shia would help us find the Sunni jihadis, etc. The surge at the end was nothing more than a smoke and mirrors display where we used lots of cash (to pay off people) and lots of troops to flood an area. It was something that could only last for a short period of time to make things settle or at least appear that way. We then basically left Iraq. It did NOT solve the underlying problems (due to Islam) with Iraq, which are still there today.

I don’t think any of this is possible in Afghanistan. There is no real Shia vs. Sunni dynamic you can play upon, and a surge into Afghanistan is much harder due the geography of the country and the people there are not as educated either. Islam, the underlying problem (which we have no intention of dealing with) in both Iraq and Afghanistan, is even more entrenched in Afghanistan. A surge into Afghanistan will only be a temporary short term fix, that will cost billions more and cost more soldiers their lives. It is also political suicide.

Our nation building efforts are a failure in the Islamic world, because we never tackled underlying problem which is Islam. I say it is time to cut our loses and come home, killing whoever we have to kill on the way out. The faster we figure this out the better.

William Eaton on September 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM

In an off topic news flash, Pakistan protestor dies from smoke inhalation from burning American flag. Ironic justice indeed!

jistincase on September 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM

“We broke the Taliban’s momentum. We’ve built strong Afghan security forces. The goal that I set — to defeat al Qaeda, and deny it a chance to rebuild — is within reach.” – Barack Obama. May 1st, 2012

There’s that word “I” again … “The goal that I set …”

Wasn’t it Bush that sent us to Afghanistan with the goal of defeating al Qaeda? Oh that’s right. We don’t want to blame Bush for everything.

Since you want the credit so bad, I’ll give it to you …. “YOU LOST THE WAR BARRY. NOW BRING ‘EM HOME.”

Carnac on September 18, 2012 at 11:21 AM

My suggestion is simple. Start a little bit east of the Jordon River and carpet bomb until you get to India. That should solve a lot of out Middle East problem.

CableDude on September 18, 2012 at 11:24 AM

If Romney had any sense of politics at all he would come out in support of pulling out of Afghanistan and getting out of the Islamic world in general, by supporting developing our own natural resources and the natural resources in the western hemisphere.

Getting out of the Islamic world….creating jobs and tax revenue at home by solving budget problems without having to raise taxes. That sounds like a winner to me…plus he can than pound Obama for entangling us in the Egyptian and Libyan mess, and stopping us from getting out of the Islamic world by preventing us from using our own natural resources.

William Eaton on September 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM

As I recall, we didn’t have these kinds of problems in Iraq, at least not to the extent we’re seeing in Afghanistan. We had a much bigger footprint in Iraq, though, and the underlying conflict was less tribal and the nation’s self-image more coherent than in Afghanistan.

Probably makes a big difference when the CinC tells the enemy that we’re getting out, come Hell or High Water.

Enjoy the show, libs because in another year or so you can watch a REAL War on Women in Afghanistan.

PackerBronco on September 18, 2012 at 11:29 AM

If a YouTube video is really at the heart of what is going on over there, what do they think will happen when Zero Dark Thirty is released? If mob violence escalates and they say that movie is the reason, will the admin request theaters stop showing the franchised version of their final victory lap?

JAGonzo on September 18, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Probably makes a big difference when the CinC tells the enemy that we’re getting out, come Hell or High Water. PackerBronco

Exactly.Day 1 after the pullout the Taliban will be in complete control.

BTW Did you know that in addition to the Middle East unrest, the lost war in Afghanistan, the drought in the middle west,global warming high unemployment, the spiraling out of control debt and Joe Biden’s egregious remarks, that the film ‘Innocence of Muslims is also responsible for Hillary Clinton looking like Bette Davis is “Whatever Happened To Baby Jane”?

MaiDee on September 18, 2012 at 11:57 AM

ZeroDarkThirty currently is scheduled for nationwide release in the U.S. on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 (international release follows a month later, January 25th in the UK).

This is 6 weeks after Obama either has been thrown out of office, or re-elected. If he’s re-elected, it simply won’t matter how the Middle East reacts… Obama can be “more flexible” and close down the movie, or kick off his new administration with yet another “I killed Bin Laden” victory lap and celebration of his re-election. If he’s re-elected, he’s probably cool with it either way: shut it down or boost himself. He won. (Although, there is the possibility that “I killed Bin Laden” has been simply for U.S. consumption all along, to win the election, because in fact he’s rather ashamed to have taken him out, and failed to close Gitmo, or give the Muslim nations everything they want.)

If Romney wins, with only a month to go to his inauguration, it’s his problem.

What will be equally interesting is whether Hollywood censors itself. This movie’s director, Kathryn Bigelow, is an Academy Award winner, and ZeroDarkThirty will be closely watched for its “Best Everything” nomination potential. Will the pic receive any nominations for anything? And if it does, will it win any of them? Hollywood will have to ask itself how much security is possible at the Dolby Theater on Hollywood Boulevard in the second largest city in the U.S.

de rigueur on September 18, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Obama would have let this killing go on indefinitely if it hadn’t hit the media. Soft power!

PattyJ on September 18, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Make like a tree and LEAVE !!

KenInIL on September 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM

I think it’s time to suspend all American involvement with Afghanistan, including the flow of American dollars into this forsaken hell-hole. The $$ can be put to better use here.

I am sure that there are some good people that will suffer from our withdrawal, but if they are in any way appreciative of what we have done for them, they need to find a better way of expressing it than killing our soldiers that are training their guys!

rockncoal on September 18, 2012 at 12:45 PM

No surprise that this administration wasn’t interested in protecting the troops. It’s a leftist administration and leftists absolutely hate the military.

HotAirian on September 18, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Headline

PAKISTANI PROTESTER DIES AFTER INHALING FUMES OF BURNING U.S. FLAG.

Looks like another Obama billion dollar reparations payment-and apology!

MaiDee on September 18, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Before the official pull-out of the US and NATO troops, there should be a day when our forces invite about 500 or so Afghani troops, cops and local officials over for a Parting Ceremony.

When they are all lined up in neat rows, 5 or 6 machine guns ought to open up and blow away the guests to the last man.

Then, we can explain it by saying the US troops were just overwhelmed with desire to bow away Afghanis, so they did it, because “Elvis” told them to do it.

dockywocky on September 18, 2012 at 4:29 PM

The money quote comes at the end, related from an unnamed US official: “We have got to do a better job at protecting our troops.” How do we do that, though?

There is something backwards about that statement…

yubley on September 18, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Imbecilic p.c. ROE’s and a delusional lack of interest in the dogmas of violent, imperialistic Islam are the root of this mad folly.

Crap in, crap out.

profitsbeard on September 18, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Obama got Osama but lost the War…..

Baxter Greene on September 19, 2012 at 1:49 AM