Jay Carney: On second thought, I guess it’s possible that that Benghazi attack was preplanned

posted at 9:34 pm on September 18, 2012 by Allahpundit

He was telling a different story four days ago, but now that the press is back in “what about Romney’s gaffes?” mode, I guess it’s safe to open the door a crack to a very obvious conclusion.

The White House on Tuesday explicitly left open the possibility that last week’s dramatic attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, which left four Americans including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens dead, was a preplanned attack…

“There is an abundance of weapons, including heavy weapons, and there are certainly groups that carry those weapons and look to take advantage of those circumstances—as there are around the region and the world,” Carney said. He did not say whether such groups might be linked to international extremist networks like al-Qaida.

“We have seen circumstances in the past in other parts of the region where incidents that inflame opinion are taken advantage of, and exploited, by groups that have an interest in creating chaos and destabilizing their local governments, or attacking the West or the United States,” Carney said…

But Carney last week repeatedly blamed the video for the violence, including the attack on the consulate in Benghazi. “It’s not an assumption,” he said Friday, asserting that the administration had no evidence to buttress the claim that the attack was the work of extremists.

According to both a Libyan security guard who was there and an intelligence source “on the ground in Libya” who spoke to Fox News, there was no “protest” of the Mohammed movie in Benghazi at all. It was a full-on attack on the consulate from the beginning. I’m increasingly curious about why there’s such a discrepancy about this in various accounts; it should be easy enough to determine from survivors whether there was a group outside the consulate shrieking about the movie an hour or two before the shooting started. If it were only Carney and Susan Rice insisting that there had been a protest before the attack, I’d chalk it up to White House disinformation designed to buttress Obama’s “blame the video, not my policies” defense. But it’s not just them: A regional representative for Libya’s interior ministry also says there was a protest.

Meanwhile, the Breitbart crew may have solved the mystery of why security at the consulate was so weak. It’s hard to defend yourself when your top priority is keeping a “light footprint” so as not to offend the locals:

According to a source close to Breitbart News and high up in the intelligence community, the Obama administration’s policy following Muammar Gaddafi’s death has been to keep a “low profile” during a chaotic time.

For this reason, according to the source, American Marines were not stationed at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli or the American mission in Benghazi, as would typically have been the case. In the spirit of a “low profile,” the administration didn’t even want an American company in charge of private security. Blue Mountain, the British firm the State Department hired, was willing to abide by the “no bullets” Rules of Engagement (ROE), so were a logical fit for the contract. These sub-standard protections for American diplomats were signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the ROE.

In essence, the Obama Administration tasked an unarmed British firm with security responsibilities that should have been handled by armed American servicemen, and it was all approved by the Secretary of State. Needless to say, the plan failed and an Ambassador was murdered, along with several others.

Krazy kwestion for the State Department: Given that the consulate had been targeted at least once before, how long were they planning to follow the “let’s be quiet and hope the local terrorists don’t know we’re Americans” strategy? Exit quotation from Mike Rogers: “This (the U.S. Consulate) was a place that was targeted months before with an IED (improvised explosive device). It’s clearly a target that they wanted to hit and they wanted to cause casualties. … It’s just too many coincidences here.”


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“stupid is as stupid believes”

Ugly on September 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

>M1A’s do rock, you can have one of mine if the time comes.

Bishop on September 18, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I was not aware that M1′s used .308 ammunition…

Never shot one before…

BigWyo on September 18, 2012 at 10:25 PM

With all the conservative websites now, the same internet that Par-Tay Boy used to his advantage in 2008 is now turning around and biting him in the behind.

The irony is delicious.

GrannyDee on September 18, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Where is sesquireptilian

Bishop on September 18, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Bishop:

Probably in Chicago,for Re-Distribution talks,

or,

on one of the 1000 Chinese Fishing boats to surround the
Japanese Island,for the WAR that is about to erupto!!:)

canopfor on September 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

on one of the 1000 Chinese Fishing boats to surround the
Japanese Island,for the WAR that is about to erupto!!:)

canopfor on September 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

ROTFLMAO… Japan has the 3rd most powerful Navy on earth. China isn’t even ranked in the top 10. If by war erupting you mean that the Chinese are about to engage in artificial reef construction on a moderate scale, yes, I would agree.

SWalker on September 18, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Many other things should have brought this clown down, but this really will.

Chewy the Lab on September 18, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Go over to Weasel Zippers and read the two articles about O-Blame-O and what he said that will be on Letterman tonight.

If you have a weak gag reflex, be sure you have a bucket handy.

GrannyDee on September 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

>M1A’s do rock, you can have one of mine if the time comes.

Bishop on September 18, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I was not aware that M1′s used .308 ammunition…

Never shot one before…

BigWyo on September 18, 2012 at 10:25 PM

BigWyo:

I think,its 120MM calibre,let me know,if you meed any depeleted
uranium sabots,I have a stock-pile!
(snark)

canopfor on September 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Marc Thiessen: Breaking: Obama attends his intelligence meeting three days in a row. AEI

onlineanalyst on September 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

The bad news is that little Bammie has ordered ESPN to conduct future intel briefings.

slickwillie2001 on September 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

J, I haven’t forgotten that I promised you copies of my family’s history.

Just haven’t found it yet.

GrannyDee on September 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM

And I haven’t forgotten either, I’m up to my ears in work and horses. I had to go to Prague last week for a few days of business and only saw one of my brothers and turned around and came right back home.

JPeterman on September 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

canopfor on September 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

ROTFLMAO… Japan has the 3rd most powerful Navy on earth. China isn’t even ranked in the top 10. If by war erupting you mean that the Chinese are about to engage in artificial reef construction on a moderate scale, yes, I would agree.

SWalker on September 18, 2012 at 10:29 PM

SWalker:Lol,Reef building!:)
============================

About 1000 fishing boats mobilized by China are nearing an island chain controlled by Japan – @smh

1 hour ago from http://www.smh.com.au by editor

http://www.smh.com.au/world/japanese-businesses-close-as-china-burns-over-anniversary-20120918-264ku.html

canopfor on September 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Hillary Clinton has to go. Now.
Like Rumsfeld, Clinton is the Cabinet officer whose tenure began as a political rock star — and ended amid a chorus of controversy. In Rumsfeld’s case, by November of 2006 the besieged Secretary of Defense did in fact get the request for his resignation from President George W. Bush. And he left.

Nuff’ said!

Chewy the Lab on September 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM

JPeterman on September 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Thanks, J.

Hope you had a great trip and enjoyed visiting with your brother.

Welcome back!

GrannyDee on September 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Marc Thiessen: Breaking: Obama attends his intelligence meeting three days in a row. AEI

onlineanalyst on September 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

onlineanalyst:Obama finally goes to school,..who knew!!:)
(sarc).

canopfor on September 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM

What did you know and when did you know it?

HornetSting on September 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM

You would think that Hillary! would have more insight, having successfully weathered the Tusla dash.

onlineanalyst on September 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Marc Thiessen: Breaking: Obama attends his intelligence meeting three days in a row. AEI

onlineanalyst on September 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Did he show up in his jammies?

GrannyDee on September 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM

H.R. Clinton will not resign.

She will attempt to cling to her position for the next five months, when Obama finally climbs into that helicopter for his last free ride home, January 20th, 2013.

She will do this rather than have it on her record that she resigned, and because a resignation would be an open admission of culpability in the face of possible legal action.

thatsafactjack on September 18, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Obama wont get re elected with these gas prices.

SparkPlug on September 18, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Hillary can’t resign. If she does, she blows her chance at 2016 by tacitly admitting culpability. She has said that she will step down and not serve should Obama get reelected. She will hold on for the next few months with as much might as she used to throw that lamp or ashtray at Bubba.

Resist We Much on September 18, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I cant help but think that John Nolte, also at Breitbart, is on to something. The Obama Admin needs to reframe the narrative so that their pro-Obama movie can come out, and any resulting violence cannot then be cast as resulting from the movie:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/09/15/Obama-Admin-Must-Stop-Killing-Bin-Laden-Film

elpidzo13 on September 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Somtimes I forget what Carney’s actual function is.

CrustyB on September 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM

The White House on Tuesday explicitly left open the possibility that last week’s dramatic attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, which left four Americans including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens dead, was a preplanned attack…

NEWS FLASH! In other news today, President Lead from the Rear has announced that he is convinced that water is WET!

GarandFan on September 18, 2012 at 10:48 PM

These sub-standard protections for American diplomats were signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the ROE.

Good grief…Hillary just proved to the world she isn’t fit to hold her position. Her stupidity got those four men killed. We don’t need the FBI to figure that one out.

lynncgb on September 18, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Jay Carney: On second thought, I guess it’s possible that that Benghazi attack was preplanned

This gang makes me nauseous.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 18, 2012 at 10:58 PM

How America can vote for more of this is baffling. The Koolaid(and bennies) must be damn good.

CW on September 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM

The leftist cultists love ‘em some Obama . . .

TarheelBen on September 18, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Somtimes I forget what Carney’s actual function is.

CrustyB on September 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Comic relief

onlineanalyst on September 18, 2012 at 11:06 PM

At the very effing least, each one of those people should have been issued a conehead costume.

Dan Collins on September 18, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Preplanned as opposed to planned?

Think about it. WTF?

BuckeyeSam on September 18, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Somtimes I forget what Carney’s actual function is.

CrustyB on September 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Ever see Deliverance?

In Obama’s world, he’s Ned Beatty.

itsspideyman on September 18, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Why do we call them the “Palace Guards” when they really should be called the Palace ‘tards?

Just sayin’.

monkeyboy on September 18, 2012 at 11:59 PM

ENOUGH OF THIS BULL SHIITE ALREADY !!!

This is not incompetence on the part of team carnhole. Just more dishonesty and corruption

THE PATTERN of this fraud of an Administration IS to ALWAYS respond INITIALLY in a provocative manner…… Only to later WALK BACK THEIR BS with, we/ he didn’t mean that, misspeaks, or just flat out lying denials and then let their lap dog media bury the story. And their damage is done- hoping no one is paying attention to the required correction or truth they have to come clean on at a later date. I call BS on this.

Gun Runner is a great example(s). Benghazi another. WHY ARE THESE FRAUDS ALLOWED TO DO THIS.

Don’t they know they WORK FOR US ???

Is there ANY HONEST MEDIA OUT THERE ?

FlaMurph on September 19, 2012 at 12:21 AM

“Is there ANY HONEST MEDIA OUT THERE ?”

The Magic Eight ball says “Not even close.”

stormridercx4 on September 19, 2012 at 3:32 AM

Jay Carney: On second thought, I guess the sun really does rise in the east.

MTF on September 19, 2012 at 6:38 AM

That makes our UN Ambassador a flat out liar.

tommyboy on September 19, 2012 at 6:46 AM

As the absentee ballot mailing deadline looms, a sharp reminder of the disenfranchisement of our Military voters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt6sO1v8ikc

rayra on September 19, 2012 at 7:01 AM

when your top priority is keeping a “light footprint” so as not to offend the locals:

We can agree with the “light footprint”, but it would be naive to assume that mere potential local offense was the real purpose we made ourselves so open and inviting to attack.

So little is asked, so little is demanded, so little is thus known.

Don L on September 19, 2012 at 7:12 AM

Dec 7, 1941

President Roosevelt, why is it our mighty fortress of aircraft, battleships and personel were so unprepared for the attack by the Japanese carrier forces?

Well, hrrummp! We, of course, didn’t wish to appear militant as that might have offended our friends across the Pacific.

Don L on September 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM

As the absentee ballot mailing deadline looms, a sharp reminder of the disenfranchisement of our Military voters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt6sO1v8ikc

rayra on September 19, 2012 at 7:01 AM

This still torks me off to no end! If there is one segment of the population people should be bending over backwards to ensure their franchise is not abused it is those who have done the most to defend it for all!

Too bad the Democrats-with-a-bye-line (Kudos to Rush for that phrase) never challenge Obama, Holder or Carney on that!

insidiator on September 19, 2012 at 7:41 AM

These sub-standard protections for American diplomats were signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the ROE.

In essence, the Obama Administration tasked an unarmed British firm with security responsibilities that should have been handled by armed American servicemen, and it was all approved by the Secretary of State. Needless to say, the plan failed and an Ambassador was murdered, along with several others.

And they worry about a woman, dying of cancer years after a plant closes, and blames it on Mitt…meanwhile, they allow 4 people to die because they wanted a “low profile” on 9/11…despicable!!…

right2bright on September 19, 2012 at 7:48 AM

That makes our UN Ambassador a flat out liar.

tommyboy on September 19, 2012 at 6:46 AM

Yes, Susan Rice needs to go on every Sunday show she was on last week and ‘splain why she was so wrong. Why the UN Ambassador of the USA insisted on repeating bad information, who gave her this information and why?
I can dream, can’t I?

IowaWoman on September 19, 2012 at 7:48 AM

The fact that America exists offends them, Barry is doing everything in his power to change that.

IowaWoman on September 19, 2012 at 7:53 AM

ROTFLMAO… Japan has the 3rd most powerful Navy on earth. China isn’t even ranked in the top 10. If by war erupting you mean that the Chinese are about to engage in artificial reef construction on a moderate scale, yes, I would agree.

SWalker on September 18, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I know we’re wandering off topic here but this needs correcting. Japan had the 3rd largest navy in the world prior to 1920. It’s Maritime Defense Force today has 48 surface ships and 21 submarines. China’s navy conists of 899 surface ships and 63 submarines. It’s unwise to underestimate Chinese naval power.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Trafalgar on September 19, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Grrr. Quote fail. Sorry!

ROTFLMAO… Japan has the 3rd most powerful Navy on earth. China isn’t even ranked in the top 10. If by war erupting you mean that the Chinese are about to engage in artificial reef construction on a moderate scale, yes, I would agree.

SWalker on September 18, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I know we’re wandering off topic here but this needs correcting. Japan had the 3rd largest navy in the world prior to 1920. It’s Maritime Defense Force today has 48 surface ships and 21 submarines. China’s navy conists of 899 surface ships and 63 submarines. It’s unwise to underestimate Chinese naval power.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Trafalgar on September 19, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Blue Mountain, the British firm the State Department hired, was willing to abide by the “no bullets” Rules of Engagement (ROE), so were a logical fit for the contract.

So, the Secretary of State outsourced security. I thought Democrats hated outsourcing.

Bitter Clinger on September 19, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Preplanned as opposed to planned?

BuckeyeSam on September 18, 2012 at 11:20 PM


Newspeak.
Stupidspeak.

petefrt on September 19, 2012 at 8:36 AM

My son-in-law was with the first Marine group to reach the Kuwait Airport in Iraq 1. Slight wound to face. Went through Iraq 2 with no wounds, until after the main fighting. An IED was placed near their mess hall by an Iraqui soldier who was also staying at that camp. He was pretty severely wounded; airlifted to Germany and then to California hospitals.

When he recovered he was offered a posting as part of the Marine Security at the Embassy in Egypt. He was planning to go, but when he heard about the ‘no bullets’ rule he said “WTF am I supposed to do, ask them politely to behave?”. He decided to retire instead. He said he has guns at home and a lot of ‘real bullets’ when they will be needed. Meantime he is finishing his degree in Accounting.

dahni on September 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM

but when he heard about the ‘no bullets’ rule he said “WTF am I supposed to do, ask them politely to behave?”. He decided to retire instead.

Good for him. A soldier’s uniform is a target on your back. To ask you to wear that uniform without “bullets in your gun” is unconscionable.

petefrt on September 19, 2012 at 9:10 PM

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