Romney: Obama’s 47% of the electorate is dependent on government

posted at 7:34 pm on September 17, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Mother Jones and Ace, watch this now if you haven’t seen it elsewhere because political media will be having 20 heart attacks about it tomorrow and you’ll want to be up to speed. This was recorded awhile back at a fundraiser, just like Obama’s infamous “bitter/clinger” comments in 2008. Remember how big that blew up? That’s how we ended up with President McCain.

The dirty little secret of most “controversial” political statements is that voters pay them little mind, especially when they’re preoccupied with bread-and-butter issues. The GOP spent three days in Tampa hammering Obama for the “you didn’t build that” line and a fat lot of good it did them in vaulting Romney past O in the polls. Then again, the GOP didn’t have a media megaphone like the one that’s going to be amplifying this for the rest of the week. The money quote:

“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…

“And I mean the president starts off with 48, 49 … he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn’t connect. So he’ll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that’s what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to convince the five to ten percent in the center that are independents that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not.”

Certainly, the Obama campaign’s never done anything to tout the sort of cradle-to-grave dependency that Romney describes here. I think David French’s recent post about the “bookends” that compose the modern liberal coalition is closer to the mark than Romney’s familiar makers-and-takers formulation here, but he was at a fundraiser and tossing red meat and I guess wanted it to be as red as possible. As for his claim that 47 percent pay no income tax, it’s true but carries lots of caveats. Ramesh Ponnuru wrote an insightful piece about last year; this new article from National Journal is worth reading too. Two political difficulties here. One: While some Obama supporters may not pay federal income tax, they still pay federal payroll tax and may well pay state and city taxes. They do contribute something to government. Two: A lot of pro-Republican working-class voters pay no income tax due to the Earned Income Tax Credit, and a lot of pro-Republican seniors pay no income tax because most or all of their income is Social Security. Not sure how either of those groups will react to Romney’s critique of O’s fans, but my hunch is that Ben Domenech’s right in believing that no one really thinks they’re part of the 47 percent. Everyone thinks they’re a “maker,” not a “taker,” due to whatever little tax they pay, so when Mitt lays into freeloaders, even people who pay no income tax think he’s talking about someone else. It’s sort of the flip side of senior citizens saying that America needs small government while telling politicians “Hands off my Medicare.” I doubt it’ll end up hurting Romney badly, but the media will do its level best. Buckle up!

That’s the first video. The second video is of Romney joking that he’d have a better chance at being elected if he was Latino, which is almost certainly true.

Update: Damage control from Romney’s campaign:

Mitt Romney wants to help all Americans struggling in the Obama economy. As the governor has made clear all year, he is concerned about the growing number of people who are dependent on the federal government, including the record number of people who are on food stamps, nearly one in six Americans in poverty, and the 23 million Americans who are struggling to find work. Mitt Romney’s plan creates 12 million new jobs in four years, grows the economy and moves Americans off of government dependency and into jobs.



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Bye bye Mitt! Your campaign is done.

HotAirLib on September 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Because your side thinks the land is full of cripples in dirty diapers. Suffocate from what you consume, Utopian sh*t. It ain’t Beluga caviar, you fool. May you go to Hader, you lazy azz…cause certainly you ain’t got a functioning brain.

I hope the US will show you who is in charge on Nov. 6. It will be very telling if the populace has lost its collective mind or not.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM

…except what Romney said was true and what Akin said was just wrong on so many levels.

GOPRanknFile on September 17, 2012 at 8:06 PM

i thought the reasoning was that Akin was dragging down the vote for the whole party.

astonerii on September 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM

The more I watch this video the more I like it. Bravo Mitt!

echosyst on September 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM

John Nolte from Breitbart says on Twitter:

@Reince was so good talking about 47% vid on CNN, I’m wondering if Team Romney leaked it themselves. #AWESOME

and

Hope Team Romney realizes that this 47% things has us more excited than anything else in weeks. This is a BASE election, donchaknow.

**Applause**

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM

total trap for the press now Obama will have to defend all the moochers and want to give them more hahahaha

Conservative4ev on September 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM

go Mitt go.

gerrym51 on September 17, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Hmm…maybe I was wrong. Maybe Obama will be up 10-15 in the polls BEFORE the last debate is over.

What a dumb string of statements. Yes, acurate and yet somehow delievered in the worst way possible…as if he doesn’t understand the plight of the average American.

newtopia on September 17, 2012 at 8:09 PM

“I’m Barack Hussein O’bamna, and I Approved this Message!”

B+

Del Dolemonte on September 17, 2012 at 8:15 PM

I doubt it’ll end up hurting Romney badly, but the media will do its level best. Buckle up!

This is huge.

Look what they managed to do with a perfectly factual and timely statement. They’ve even moved on from the horror of Romney’s gaffe to a sequel, a fabrication about the Romney campaign’s damage control measures. The LSM is on another planet, spooking itself with its own ghost stories. Anyway, absolute fiction, and they did that without even a sound bite.

Republicans hate poor people, and poor people should be afraid of them. Here is a poor child. Isn’t she pretty? Isn’t this tragic?

There might be an irony in the universe here. The amount it will hurt him might be directly related to his accuracy. If he was dead on, it shouldn’t hurt him much at all. But then, how does that statement sound to his five or ten percent?

Axe on September 17, 2012 at 8:16 PM

The problem is that just like people don’t like being called bitter, people also don’t like being told they don’t take any personal responsibility. People definitely don’t like being told they take no personal responsibility from a rich guy. People definitely don’t like being told that a potential president feels that “[his] job is not to worry about those people.”

Again, it’s not going to convince people that weren’t going to vote for Obama to vote for him. But imagine this playing over and over in November. You guys keep saying that the polls are wrong because Dems aren’t going to come out in 2008 numbers. Romney is saying things that will ensure they do.

segasagez on September 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM

most of the kids that voted for hope and change aren’t going to vote at all this time…they’re too bitter

workingclass artist on September 17, 2012 at 8:16 PM

is there anything that he said that wasn’t true?

ted c on September 17, 2012 at 8:16 PM

It’s amazing what partisan bloggers have to do to protect the crybabies in their midst from any bad news.

Allahpundit on September 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Well what a refreshing change this has been. I’ve been called many things (comes with the format) but tonight I’ve been called troll, which is rare, and for the first time a partisan blogger.

But in another sense I am disappointed. I post here enough that any fair reading of my posts would hold neither as true. Remarkably, I thought it would come from some supporter of Ron Paul and not the other direction.

Happy Nomad on September 17, 2012 at 8:16 PM

CNN is having a field day with this, already twisting to include SS recipients as part of the 47 percent.

matthew8787 on September 17, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Good. Voters will FINALLY hear how many have gone on Social Security DISABILITY under Obama, NOT disabled, and NEVER to work again.

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:16 PM

As long as Romney doesn’t abandon his position, it’ll backfire big time. The thing is that there are a lot of people that pay no taxes but believe they do. I’ve got friends I’m absolutely sure that pay no net taxes, but never do the math and figure it out. They pay in a few thousand in federal taxes and they get it back at the end of the year. They see federal taxes, Medicare and Social Security as the same thing and when they get back less than the total of these three combined they believe they are paying. They also tend to bitch about the moochers and freeloaders. This could bite the Obama campaign in the arse.

ReaganWasRight on September 17, 2012 at 8:16 PM

WHEN are you EEYORES gonna get out there and work FOR ROMNEY instead of sitting around “eeyoring” about the latest opportunity for Obama’s “palace guard” to lie about Romney?

I mean, really “allahpundit”–how much time have you spent this week giving your readers a money quote to take out there and spread around to refute the media lackey’s LIES and DISTORTIONS about what Romney said in the first place regarding the Embassy statement, and the timeline in which it occurred–meaning after it had been out there for a full 10 hours.

How much time have you spent reminding readers that Romney’s statement was RIGHT ON THE MONEY regarding the assertions in the Embassy statement?!

How much time have you spent informing readers about the fact that even the White House disavowed the Embassy statement shortly after Romney’s statement?

You see, the eeyorism doesn’t HELP your candidate. Now, maybe you don’t WANT to help him. Maybe you secretly think that if you help Obama win again, it somehow plays into your argument that conservatives and Republicans should have selected Rick Santorum [gag me] or Newt Gingrich [cringeworthy].

Conservatives really make me sick these days. You’re a bunch of pussies and hypocrites. The only conservative I see out there making the case is John Sununu who is doing YEOMAN’S WORK while the rest of you whine like a bunch of pussies.

Romney is a super candidate; Obama’s done more flip-flopping on issues than Mitt Romney and John Kerry COMBINED; and if you really wanted to HELP, you might try spending a little MORE time marshalling arguments we can take elsewhere, and a little LESS time whining about how Mitt’s gonna lose, oh, woe is me.

mountainaires on September 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

John Nolte from Breitbart says on Twitter:

@Reince was so good talking about 47% vid on CNN, I’m wondering if Team Romney leaked it themselves. #AWESOME

and

Hope Team Romney realizes that this 47% things has us more excited than anything else in weeks. This is a BASE election, donchaknow.

**Applause**

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM

He’s already walking it back. At best, he’s the same double-talking Mitt Romney that we’re used to. At worst, his campaign is completely incompetent.

Seriously, if they leaked this video, his campaign staff should be fired. Who wasn’t voting for him that’ll be voting for him now? Who’s voting FOR him anyways? What segment of the population is voting FOR Mitt Romney?

segasagez on September 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

There are many independents who tired of paying for their family and for moochers and looters…

d1carter on September 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

I guess this must be news to some

If Obama is elected more than 70% will become dependent. Dems’ dream for 50 years…the big problem..when the $ runs out

Go Mitt! Go for it.

Redford on September 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

SORRY IF THIS HAS BEEN ASKED BEFORE but what exactly did he say that was not 100% true and factual???????????

SDarchitect on September 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

You can tell how effective this is by reading the NYT article that Drudge links too. Liberal faux outrage in full force – pretending that Romney is against the military and seniors (a huge chunk of his base), and saying how heartless he is (and of course accusing Romney of being part of the 47% and demanding he release his taxes).

milcus on September 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Uhm, what’s the problem here?

SouthernGent on September 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM

SoutherGent:

B*tching,Moaning,Whining,from the Leftys!:)

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

segasagez on September 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM

I disagree.

The people who worked their entire lives and contributed to Social Security and Medicare know he’s not talking about them. The people who are truly disabled and unable to contribute know he’s not talking about them (or not in a condition to care).

He’s talking about parasites. We know it and they know it.

Sure, the media will try to misrepresent it, but that’s true of anything Romney says or does. That’s the problem here. The problem isn’t what Romney said.

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM

i thought the reasoning was that Akin was dragging down the vote for the whole party.

astonerii on September 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM

That was one of the reasons. Even by that logic, most independents and people within Akin’s own party disagreed with him. I suspect most Republicans agree with Romney and I think it’ll actually appeal to independents as well. I know one thing. I’ve never wanted to fight so hard for a candidate as I do now.

GOPRanknFile on September 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Stop, Mitt. Please stop. Stop. Mitt.

For HAL 9000.

spiritof61 on September 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Crap… We are done.

Eeyore

GadsdenRattlers on September 17, 2012 at 8:19 PM

The problem is that just like people don’t like being called bitter, people also don’t like being told they don’t take any personal responsibility.

segasagez on September 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Sometimes people need a boot up their hind parts. “God, guns and religion” are what this country was founded upon.

Being a deadbeat is *not* what this country is about. There should never be any shame in taking “personal responsibility.” That’s a goal every American should inherently have.

Democrats have purposefully created a society of dependents. There’s a reason signs in state parks read “don’t feed the animals.” Animals become dependent upon “handouts” and lose their natural instincts to hunt and provide for themselves.

It’s amazing democrats can see that in animals, but not their own base. There’s a difference between a “hand up” and a “hand out” for a lifetime of votes.

BruthaMan on September 17, 2012 at 8:19 PM

That is excellent by Romney…

mnjg on September 17, 2012 at 8:19 PM

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM

I concur. Your analysis is 100% on point. Well said.

thatsafactjack on September 17, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Seriously, this is a defining moment. Do you support the guy who wants to grow the entitled, permanently aggrieved group of our country or the guy who whats personal responsibility and a return to the American work ethic?

Sugar Land on September 17, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Duuude. The 47+ percentage of the electorate that is debased with an entitlement mentality and permanently aggrieved status will vote for the guy who wants to grow the entitled, permanently aggrieved group and force the rest to pay for it.

There is also, hopefully, 45-47% of the electorate who abhor that mentality, and who will therefore support Mitt Romney. That leaves, as Romney points out, the mushy middle. Do they vote for entitlement and permanent aggrievement, or do they vote for personal responsibility?

Sorry, but the answer to that question is not a given. It may have been, once. Not now.

Mr. Arkadin on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Mitt is a big boy. He is going to have to deal with the sleazy legacy media for the next eight years. Let’s get started now!

d1carter on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Americans are not pure libertarian. I’m sure a lot more than 47% of Americans think the government should provide food and shelter.

This will hurt.

YYZ on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Smackdown. I love it. Now, if only Romney had the nads to stick to his guns like you do. You’re my favorite blogger, because you tell like it is. Some people can’t handle reality.

Corporal Tunnel on September 17, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Who says he does not stick to his guns? Thus far Romney has been taking it from the left 24/7..it would be nice if his side backed him up…but I guess some folks just do not have the nads.

It’s fine. Whatever damage these comments could do to Romney will be offset by his announcement of his support for Amnesty today.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-hispanics-ll-fix-economy-immigration-200821307–election.html

sartana on September 17, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Yep. That’s the Romney we all know and love. Pandering to illegals and flip flopping. He gave Gingrich hell in the primary for wanting to let long term illegals in the US stay. What a hypocrite. Just Obama lite.

they lie on September 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM

I heard what Romney said he did not back amnesty…that is just a lie. All he said was that Obama made promises on immigration and did not deliver, but that he would deal with the problems..I never heard him promise anyone amnesty.

Terrye on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

…and for the first time a partisan blogger.

Happy Nomad on September 17, 2012 at 8:16 PM

I think you misinterpreted.

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Sorry if you are offended Allapundit. I’m not part of the “you’re not cheering loudly enough” crowd. I don’t think you can prove otherwise because I’ve been critical of the R/R campaign when it was warranted. What I do see is you jumping on any negative poll or event to declare that Romney’s campaign is doomed. Could you at least give Romney the same latitude you give the rat-eared bastard? That’s all I’m asking. I that too much of an expectation???

Happy Nomad on September 17, 2012 at 7:54 PM

That would require Allah to understand that millions of us are legitimately TERRIFIED about what happens in a 2nd Obama term. Suffering sucks, and this is what makes the divide between the MSM and elites vs. the average joes so exposed: The fact that the elites can weather what might be coming down the pike vs. the little guys.

This ceased to be a game or a philosophy lesson a long time ago. People in our movement need HOPE not just that Romney can win, but SOLACE that if Obama wins that there will still be a country to salvage.

Bluray on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

he didnt say anything diffrent then what nikki manij said

Conservative4ev on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

It’s amazing what partisan bloggers have to do to protect the crybabies in their midst from any bad news.

Allahpundit on September 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM

I don’t support Romney, not yet, maybe he will get there. I know all you do is use the fuel that is out there. That is all you can do. It is not like it is your job to create news. There is only so much to talk about, and good or bad, this is a place where we talk about it. Republicans, at least the conservatives ones know how to roll with the good and the bad.

astonerii on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

The problem is that just like people don’t like being called bitter, people also don’t like being told they don’t take any personal responsibility. People definitely don’t like being told they take no personal responsibility from a rich guy. People definitely don’t like being told that a potential president feels that “[his] job is not to worry about those people.”

Again, it’s not going to convince people that weren’t going to vote for Obama to vote for him. But imagine this playing over and over in November. You guys keep saying that the polls are wrong because Dems aren’t going to come out in 2008 numbers. Romney is saying things that will ensure they do.

segasagez on September 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Stop twisting what he said already. Sheesh. He was talking about trying to win the election, and who he needs to appeal to…the ‘it’s not his job to worry about those people’ was said in that vein, not that he wouldn’t worry about them as President.

Stop buying into the media spin and bs.

changer1701 on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Anybody notice the MSM set up this “explosive” on the day that irrepfutable evidence is revealed proving Obama, Clinton and Susan Rice are despicable liars?

matthew8787 on September 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM

…….mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…yeeh!

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Because your side thinks the land is full of cripples in dirty diapers. Suffocate from what you consume, Utopian sh*t.

Priceless

gracie on September 17, 2012 at 8:21 PM

thatsafactjack on September 17, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Thanks, Jackie.

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Americans are not pure libertarian. I’m sure a lot more than 47% of Americans think the government should provide food and shelter.

This will hurt.

YYZ on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Actually according to Gallup a majority think they should not…and Romney did not say he wanted people to be left to die or something.

Terrye on September 17, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Chuckled listening to his ‘I’d have a better chance if I were Latino‘ bit. Not sure about that, but I bet he’d be waaaay more fun!

:P

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on September 17, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Stereotype much?

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Stereotype much?

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:06 PM

I’m black and an awfully good dancer. So yes, I suppose I do.

:P

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on September 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM

I disagree.

The people who worked their entire lives and contributed to Social Security and Medicare know he’s not talking about them. The people who are truly disabled and unable to contribute know he’s not talking about them (or not in a condition to care).

He’s talking about parasites. We know it and they know it.

Sure, the media will try to misrepresent it, but that’s true of anything Romney says or does. That’s the problem here. The problem isn’t what Romney said.

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Well said. WE know who he’s talking about. THEY know who he’s talking about. Let them try to make it about the seniors and the military — Romney will just come back with the FACT that barack’s ballooning entitlement state is threatening seniors and the military. We’re FINALLY gonna have this conversation!

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM

i think it’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound / everybody look who’s going down

sesquipedalian on September 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Should he really be trying to be the prez when he finds 47% of Americans soooo annoying?

verbaluce on September 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Dang it, I knew better than to start typing before I start drinking!

;)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on September 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Maybe I’m just overworked these days, or too tired, but I’m really having a hard time finding the controversy in this statement. I’m being serious, what is the offensive part?

TheLoudTalker on September 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

heard about these tapes on NPR…then the reporter was asked about Romney’s 47% figure and the reporter said “While technically true…” bla bla bla…

While technically true

workingclass artist on September 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Indeed!

thatsafactjack on September 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM

The video was revealed in a major scoop by Mother Jones with help from video researcher James Carter (grandson of Jimmy Carter)

heh.

sesquipedalian on September 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM

The question is not whether Mitt was right about his statement on 47% dependent on the government. He’s right of course.

But whether or not he stick to his guns on his statement or runs away from it looking like a fool when Obama challenges him on it during the debates. He said it and he needs to stick by it and repeat it or look silly backtracking

journeymike on September 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM

I guess Ambassdor Rice’s performance Sunday was a bust..?

d1carter on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

My humble opinion…of course Romney is right; however, the difference between him and say…oh Reagan, is that Reagan convinced enough of the sycophants that they are NOT better off being dependent on government and he inspired them to become successful independent Americans! I understand that we are living in a different America, but we need a leader who will speak power to truth! Convince some of those 47% that dependence is like slavery. Government is “not your daddy” and cannot take care of you! You can only be successful, happy, and FREE when you take responsibility for yourself and your family! Don’t write off all of the 47%…that is what these liberal, Obamaite, Marxist are depending on. Explain in simple terms, like Reagan did, why Sociaism cannot work. Yes, call them out! But then tell them, like you teach your child, why THIS WILL NOT WORK and we will not allow it to happen!

Rant over!

texgal on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

the meme is that the democrats will rule us, the republicans can’t win, and everything republicans do is a f*ck up.

so what’s new.?

ted c on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Who says he does not stick to his guns? Thus far Romney has been taking it from the left 24/7..it would be nice if his side backed him up…but I guess some folks just do not have the nads.

Terrye on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

There are far too many handwringers on our side, and I’m pretty sick of it. Bad enough we’ve got the Dems and the media to contend with.

changer1701 on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

**Applause**

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Rational Thought:Heres a good Twitter Resource page:)
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https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/users/%23election2012?q=%23election2012

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Dang it, I knew better than to start typing before I start drinking!

;)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on September 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Your usually a card here- I didnt take it that way…and this white girl can’t dance. ;) clink* Culcha

bazil9 on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I’m of mind that nothing anyone drags out is going to matter come election day. People’s minds are already made up. Barring some major catastrophe the campaigning is really just noise at this point.

HotAirian on September 17, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Waving the white flag already?
That was quick.

Count to 10 on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

When you stop pandering for votes and start winning them, you win elections. Telling the truth in the face of unremitting hostility from the Lapdog Liberal Media takes courage. But it wins and it wins big.

Bravo, Mitt. Keep up the fire and get in their flukin’ faces!

spiritof61 on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Stop twisting what he said already. Sheesh. He was talking about trying to win the election, and who he needs to appeal to…the ‘it’s not his job to worry about those people’ was said in that vein, not that he wouldn’t worry about them as President.

Stop buying into the media spin and bs.

changer1701 on September 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Ah, ok. So when he said “I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”, he meant….until the election?

segasagez on September 17, 2012 at 8:26 PM

MSM: That blast came from the Romney Campaign! That thing is operational!

Axelrod: Take evasive action. SuperPAC Group, stay close to holding the swing states.

Crewman: David, we have enemy Welfare Queen ads in sector 47!

Axelrod: It’s a trap!

Punchenko on September 17, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Stereotype much?

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:06 PM

I’m black and an awfully good dancer. So yes, I suppose I do.

:P

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on September 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Just checking.

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:26 PM

heard about these tapes on NPR…then the reporter was asked about Romney’s 47% figure and the reporter said “While technically true…” bla bla bla…

While technically true

workingclass artist on September 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM

And that’s a “technicality” barack has been trying to avoid discussing for the entire campaign.

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:26 PM

changer1701 on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I agree with you and Terrye. Time to stand up.

thatsafactjack on September 17, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Mittens,from Today!
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Romney Addresses Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Nat’l Convention

Los Angeles, CA
Monday, September 17, 2012
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Video:(26:35)

Republican Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney addressed the 33rd Annual U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce National Convention in Los Angeles, CA.

The former Governor planned to discuss the importance of small business in fueling the U.S. economy to Hispanic business owners, corporate executives, chamber leaders and public officials in attendance,” according to a press release.

Ahead of his speech to the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, the Romney campaign released a new web ad entitled “Herencia Hispana” to commemorate Hispanic Heritage Month.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 16.7% of the 2011 U.S. population is Hispanic or Latino origin.
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http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Events/Mitt-Romney-at-US-Hispanic-Chamber-of-Commerce-Natl-Convention/10737434133-1/

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Wasn’t this video out a month ago? I’m sure I’ve seen this just recently.

lester on September 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM

The truth hurts doesn’t it…

PatriotRider on September 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I’m of mind that nothing anyone drags out is going to matter come election day. People’s minds are already made up. Barring some major catastrophe the campaigning is really just noise at this point.

HotAirian on September 17, 2012 at 8:11 PM

So do you buy the CBS D+14 poll or the Rasmussen poll?

CW on September 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM

We’re FINALLY gonna have this conversation!

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Yes. It’s long overdue.

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Maybe I’m just overworked these days, or too tired, but I’m really having a hard time finding the controversy in this statement. I’m being serious, what is the offensive part?

TheLoudTalker on September 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Oh, you missed the part where he said he hoped poor people starved to death? /

changer1701 on September 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Should he really be trying to be the prez when he finds 47% of Americans soooo annoying?

verbaluce on September 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

I find your posts 100% annoying and yet I continue to read them.

spiritof61 on September 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

He’s talking about parasites. We know it and they know it.

Sure, the media will try to misrepresent it, but that’s true of anything Romney says or does. That’s the problem here. The problem isn’t what Romney said.

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM

This is true…they managed to turn a statement in support of free speech into something bad or wrong or tacky or whatever…

I do not know what effect this will have. To be honest I hear people say things like this every day and a lot of those people are already on social security or medicare or whatever..they are thinking of the lady with food stamps and a case of beer in front of them in line at the grocery store.

Terrye on September 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

I disagree.

The people who worked their entire lives and contributed to Social Security and Medicare know he’s not talking about them. The people who are truly disabled and unable to contribute know he’s not talking about them (or not in a condition to care).

He’s talking about parasites. We know it and they know it.

Sure, the media will try to misrepresent it, but that’s true of anything Romney says or does. That’s the problem here. The problem isn’t what Romney said.

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Well said. WE know who he’s talking about. THEY know who he’s talking about. Let them try to make it about the seniors and the military — Romney will just come back with the FACT that barack’s ballooning entitlement state is threatening seniors and the military. We’re FINALLY gonna have this conversation!

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Already qualifying it? Not those 47%, but those other 47%. Listen, the 47% number includes people on SS and medicare. There’s no other way to get to 47% without including them. Period.

You can’t just change what the man said.

segasagez on September 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

A vote for Romney equates to a 47% unemployment rate. Sweet!

HotAirLib on September 17, 2012 at 7:59 PM

…I think HotLips is probably a Chicago school teacher…
…why won’t you sing DAISY?…you get lots of requests!
…I’m beginning to suspect you’re a good hummer !…how come you don’t want to sing?

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Me thinks,the Left are…………………….

…”Acting Stupidly”,

and are,….

….”ALL WE WEEDED UP”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

If Nobama is doing so well then why the need of the media to celebrate so loudly for this “gaffe”? Also, if he is doing so well, why is he going to Wisconsin? Why are there rumors that he is going to release oil from the strategic reserves (despite ME turbulance) to reduce the price at the pump? Buck up folks. Volunteer, Donate, Vote. Ignore MSM.

txmomof6 on September 17, 2012 at 8:29 PM

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Me, too! lol!

thatsafactjack on September 17, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Wasn’t going to donate to Romney…

Now I am…

Straight talk, I love it…

MGardner on September 17, 2012 at 8:29 PM

video researcher James Carter (grandson of Jimmy Carter)

what the he!! is that cr*p?video researcher… grandkid’s as big a loser as grandpa. both of them are 47%ers

gracie on September 17, 2012 at 8:29 PM

“freeloader”

Oh, pretty please, Dems. Start screaming about Romney calling some Americans “freeloaders” and “free riders.”

Sheldon, David, Charles, Donald, et al, open up the chequebooks, boys, because we have some reminding to do:

“It’s only those Americans who decide to be irresponsible and be freeloaders… I’m saying it’s not a tax. You don’t pay this unless you’re a freeloader. And you’re being penalized if you decide to be a freeloader and ask someone else to cover your insurance.”

- Congressman Xavier Becerra (D-CA)

“The massive so-called tax increase they’re talking about is the freeloader penalty.” Gov. Martin O’Malley, (D-MD)

“What I call this is the free rider provision.”

- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, 28 June 2012

“It’s not a tax on the American people. It’s a ta… it’s a penalty for free riders.”

- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, 2 July 2012

“This penalty says you cannot be a free-rider.”

- White House chief of staff, Jack Lew

By the way, Pelosi once agreed with Romney on the use of the term “free rider” and Romney used the term “freeloader” in July.

Nothingburger.

Resist We Much on September 17, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Well said. WE know who he’s talking about. THEY know who he’s talking about. Let them try to make it about the seniors and the military — Romney will just come back with the FACT that barack’s ballooning entitlement state is threatening seniors and the military. We’re FINALLY gonna have this conversation!

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM

And, that’s why I’m praying that the clogged artery media will gin his comments up. Plus, there is a significant percentage of the people in the 47% who don’t like being there, and who would much rather be working at a decent job with decent pay, and paying taxes, than be on the dole.

Bring. It. On.

TXUS on September 17, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Terrye on September 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Yep.

jaime on September 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Lester’s smarter than I thought.

Date posted on Youtube 8.27.12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsyMUxouLP0&playnext=1&list=PLE670F1BDC9BC1AF4&feature=results_main

CW on September 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Ah, ok. So when he said “I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”, he meant….until the election?

segasagez on September 17, 2012 at 8:26 PM

He’s talking about winning the election, so yes, he’s saying he won’t appeal to those people to take personal responsibility and see the light, in order to vote for him. The whole thing is about who he’s trying to appeal to, and all he’s point out is that there is a significant number that he’s not winning over. Period. He’s right.

changer1701 on September 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM

My humble opinion…of course Romney is right; however, the difference between him and say…oh Reagan, is that Reagan convinced enough of the sycophants that they are NOT better off being dependent on government and he inspired them to become successful independent Americans! I understand that we are living in a different America, but we need a leader who will speak power to truth! Convince some of those 47% that dependence is like slavery. Government is “not your daddy” and cannot take care of you! You can only be successful, happy, and FREE when you take responsibility for yourself and your family! Don’t write off all of the 47%…that is what these liberal, Obamaite, Marxist are depending on. Explain in simple terms, like Reagan did, why Sociaism cannot work. Yes, call them out! But then tell them, like you teach your child, why THIS WILL NOT WORK and we will not allow it to happen!

Rant over!

texgal on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Nice argument. it is also what Newt did in the 1990′s. He convinced Americans that the welfare state was not good for them. He was right, he got rid of a large chunk of it, and Americans did so with joy. To have a communicator as our candidate!

astonerii on September 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM

So, being truthful is now a bad thing for a politician?

Who woulda thunk it?

On the other hand, Liebama?

OTTO on September 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM

wow i am usually not the most passionate person about romney and yet i was so impressed with this. he speaks truth! it doesn’t sound pretty and sweet, and it doesn’t need to! this is what we need more of.

Sachiko on September 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Your usually a card here- I didnt take it that way…and this white girl can’t dance. ;) clink* Culcha

bazil9 on September 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

*wink* bazil9

:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on September 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM

…I think HotLips is probably a Chicago school teacher…

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Good guess kool-what gave it away? Did you feel him picking your pocket?

bazil9 on September 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Hmm, this is supposed to make Romney look bad? Heck, if I were him I’d be handing out buttons with “Don’t be a parasite, vote GOP!”

jhffmn on September 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Romney needs to go around the legacy media. Make a big speech on racism in America…just kidding…on foreign policy. Make it stick.

d1carter on September 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM

I really disliked him during the primaries, but I’m starting to like this Mitt Romney guy now. Really.

eforhan on September 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM

heard about these tapes on NPR…then the reporter was asked about Romney’s 47% figure and the reporter said “While technically true…” bla bla bla…

While technically true

workingclass artist on September 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM

And that’s a “technicality” barack has been trying to avoid discussing for the entire campaign.

Rational Thought on September 17, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Yeah…I enjoyed the NPR reporter’s flustrastion…

*snicker*

workingclass artist on September 17, 2012 at 8:32 PM

i think it’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound / everybody look who’s going down

sesquipedalian on September 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM

troll concern duly noted. When was the last time Stills had a hit?

BTW, did you know that Stephen Stills auditioned for The Monkees? They rejected him.

Del Dolemonte on September 17, 2012 at 8:32 PM

How dare he tell the truth!

CW on September 17, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Mother Jones has made a grave strategic error in this release. Romney faces 3 challenges in this election: shoring up the republican elite, appealing to the tea party and convincing a few former Obama voters to give him a chance.

Up to now Romney’s biggest obstacle was overcoming his flipflopper past, his seeming lack of conservative certainty…

This video helps him immeasurably with republican turnout in ways money can’t buy. It gives Romney authenticity, the thing he’s been after his whole political life.

happytobehere on September 17, 2012 at 8:33 PM

The video was revealed in a major scoop by Mother Jones with help from video researcher James Carter (grandson of Jimmy Carter)

heh.

sesquipedalian on September 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Shocking! The grandkid of The Worst President Ever tries to help his grandpa keep the title!

A+

Del Dolemonte on September 17, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Remember this:

Obama’s going to pay for my gas and mortgage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

djn on September 17, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Date posted on Youtube 8.27.12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsyMUxouLP0&playnext=1&list=PLE670F1BDC9BC1AF4&feature=results_main

CW on September 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM

They must have thought they need it now…

d1carter on September 17, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Conservatives really make me sick these days. You’re a bunch of pussies and hypocrites. The only conservative I see out there making the case is John Sununu who is doing YEOMAN’S WORK while the rest of you whine like a bunch of pussies.

Romney is a super candidate; Obama’s done more flip-flopping on issues than Mitt Romney and John Kerry COMBINED; and if you really wanted to HELP, you might try spending a little MORE time marshalling arguments we can take elsewhere, and a little LESS time whining about how Mitt’s gonna lose, oh, woe is me.

mountainaires on September 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

There is truth in this…and let’s remember…this came from a fund raiser..God only knows what Obama has said at his..it is not as if Romney made a public statement…but the truth is what he says is true..

Terrye on September 17, 2012 at 8:34 PM

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