American consulate in Pakistan under siege, one rioter killed

posted at 8:41 am on September 17, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Welcome to a second week of American diplomatic outposts in Muslim nations living under siege.  Today, the news comes from Karachi, Pakistan, where the military had to respond to the American consulate to keep it from being overrun by rioters.  One died in the melee and “dozens” injured, the New York Times reports:

 One person was killed and dozens of people were injured when anti-American protesters tried to storm the American Consulate in the southern port city of Karachi and clashed for several hours with the police and paramilitary troops on Sunday evening, rescue workers and police officials said.

The outbreak of violence came after days of peaceful demonstrations in Pakistan against the release of a video mocking the Prophet Muhammad. Pakistani officials had increased security in all major cities before Friday Prayer services, which have in the past served as flash points for protests, and until Sunday, calm had prevailed. The American Embassy here said in a message posted Sunday evening on Twitter that “all American personnel are safe and accounted for at U.S. Consulate, Karachi.” …

The demonstration on Sunday was spearheaded by two groups of Shiites, a minority in Pakistan, which had urged demonstrators to march “toward” the American Consulate.

The police responded by blocking the road that leads to the American Consulate with concrete barriers and shipping containers on Sunday afternoon. Then, as the march neared, the police fired tear gas canisters into the crowd. That failed to contain waves of angry demonstrators, who grew increasingly agitated, witnesses said.

The police and Rangers, a force controlled by the Interior Ministry, then fired shots into the air as demonstrators rushed through the clouds of tear gas, trying to reach the outer boundary wall of the heavily fortified consulate building. Water cannons were also used on the protesters, who began hurling stones.

So what was the message?  We’ll get to that in a moment.  Meanwhile, Iranian state media is promoting an effort by a “religious foundation” to increase the bounty on Salman Rushdie’s head, after all these years:

An Iranian religious foundation has increased its reward for the killing of British author Salman Rushdie, in response to a U.S.-made film that mocks the Prophet Muhammad, sparking protests across the Muslim world.

Rushdie, an Indian-born British novelist who has nothing to do with the film, was condemned to death in 1989 by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Iran’s late leader, over his novel “The Satanic Verses,” saying its depiction of the Prophet Muhammad was blasphemous.

Khomeini’s fatwa – or religious edict – was condemned in the West as incitement to murder and an assault on freedom of speech, but a wealthy Iranian religious organization has offered a large reward to anyone carrying it out and decided to increase the bounty amid the furor over the online film.

“I am adding another $500,000 to the reward for killing Salman Rushdie, and anyone who carries out this sentence will receive the whole amount immediately,” said Hassan Sanei, the foundation’s head, in a statement carried by the Iranian Students’ News Agency (ISNA).

In case anyone wonders, the bounty is now up to $3.3 million — for a novel written nearly 25 years ago.  When the book got published, radical Islamists started riots around the world, which sounds rather familiar this month.

Let’s get back to the message.  The Times includes this paragraph at the end of its report on the riot in Karachi:

Protesters held placards and shouted slogans against the United States government. One placard read, “O Obama, we are all Osama.” Another placard read, “Blasphemy is not freedom of expression, and its sentence is death.”

The message from Karachi, Iran, and the burning embassies in Arab nations is that radical Islamists reject freedom of speech and religious expression entirely.  They want to impose dhimmitude on the rest of the world, just like they did in 1988 when Rushdie’s novel was published, just like they did on 9/11, and just like they always have.  Pretty speeches in Cairo won’t change that, and sending out messages condemning the “denigration” of religious belief as an “abuse” of free speech won’t change it, either.  In fact, it just encourages more of this response in the long run.


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KOOLAID2!

onetrickpony on September 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM

“…demonstrations in Pakistan against the release of a video mocking the Prophet Muhammad.”

That’s gotta be one sore chicken.

Bruce MacMahon on September 17, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Any “deity” incapable of defending his (or her) self, can’t be much of a deity.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 8:48 AM

I’m insulted.

JellyToast on September 17, 2012 at 8:49 AM

American consulate in Pakistan under siege, one rioter killed

…did JugEars shoot him?…or was it a drone?

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 8:49 AM

They want to impose dhimmitude on the rest of the world, just like they did in 1988 when Rushdie’s novel was published, just like they did on 9/11, and just like they always have.

The party lie, er line, continues.

Dante on September 17, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Next thing you know these people will be calling for the killing of Christians & Jews until they submit to islam.
Wait-

Badger40 on September 17, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Rushdie is always making antiAmerican comments. I have lost most of my sympathy for him.

Blake on September 17, 2012 at 8:50 AM

KOOLAID2!

onetrickpony on September 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM

Bishop won’t let me in his bunker if he sees that!

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 8:51 AM

The party lie, er line, continues.

Dante on September 17, 2012 at 8:49 AM

.
Yep, no way to get the “Paul-nuts” to stop.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 8:51 AM

The police and Rangers, a force controlled by the Interior Ministry, then fired shots into the air

They’re doing it wrong.

Trafalgar on September 17, 2012 at 8:51 AM

***************** ALERT ******************

From earlier this morning!!

Raw Video: Afghans Protest Anti-Islam Film

Published on Sep 17, 2012 by AssociatedPress
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Hundreds of Afghans burned cars and threw rocks at a U.S. military base as a demonstration against an anti-Islam film that ridicules the Prophet Muhammad turned violent in the Afghan capital early on Monday. (Sept. 17)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6vJU78gGrI&feature=youtu.be

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 8:47 AM

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Next thing you know these people will be calling for the killing of Christians & Jews until they submit to islam.
Wait-

Badger40
on September 17, 2012 at 8:50 AM

.
Next thing you know, Paul-nut libertarians will be calling on us to withdraw all U.S. influence in the Middle-East.

Oh, wait . . .

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 8:54 AM

And,……………………………………………..

So,the Iranian`s Ante Up,going after (Rushdie)
a British Citizen,now they are threatening to
hunt down a US Citizen….an ACT OF WAR!
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Iran will pursue makers of anti-Islam film: vice-president
DUBAI | Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:30am EDT
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(Reuters) – Iran’s government will
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“track down” those responsible for making an amateurish film clip mocking the Prophet Mohammad,
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a senior official said, Iranian media reported on Monday.

The video made in California and posted on YouTube portrayed the Prophet Mohammad as a womanizer and a fool. It has ignited a week of violent protests across the Muslim world.

“The government of the Islamic Republic of Iran condemns … this inappropriate and offensive action,” First Vice-President Mohammad Reza Rahimi said, according to the Mehr news agency.

“Certainly it will search for,
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track, and pursue this guilty person who
******************************************

… has insulted 1.5 billion Muslims in the world.”
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The Islamic Republic’s founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, condemned to death the Indian-born British novelist Salman Rushdie in 1989 for his novel “The Satanic Verses,” saying its depiction of the Prophet Mohammad was blasphemous.

Iranian officials have demanded that the United States apologize to Muslims for the movie, saying it is only the latest in a series of Western insults aimed at Islam’s holy figures.(More….)
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/17/us-protests-iran-idUSBRE88G0FQ20120917

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 7:08 AM

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 8:54 AM

I could understand brown-nosing Saudi sheiks, since Democrats made us incapable of oil independence. But Pakistan? What do we owe to that hellhole? We don’t even need nukes to wipe that excuse of a country off the map; just let the Indians to do it for us.

Archivarix on September 17, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Protesters held placards and shouted slogans against the United States government. One placard read, “O Obama, we are all Osama.”

…(White House briefing)…That’s the name of the YouTube vide0 that caused the rioting.

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 8:56 AM

“Someone needs to put Obama on AF1, fly him over there, and hastily start the Apology Tour 2012. A really intelligent speech (factual accuracy not needed) and lots and lots of deep bows will cure this problem. Don’t these Arabs know how cool Obama is? We need to work on our messaging!” -Average Dem voter

visions on September 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Guys, guys. obama’s got this. Right after he sets up a photo op to be pictured next to the dead rioter’s coffin. … Which he won’t start seriously planning until the back nine.

But, really. He’s got his.

hawkdriver on September 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Almost forgot to ask- are our Marines allowed to lock ‘n’ load real deadly force in their small-arms, now?

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Since everyone has been clamoring for my opinion on this story here it is:

The Adminstration is insulting our intelligence pretending that a movie alone is the cause of the violence. Conservatives are doing the same by pretending that there was stability and peace in the Middle East prior to last week. In fact there has been nothing but instability, or are we forgetting the invasions of Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan, hezbollah-lebanon and Isreal fight, Sudan’s genocide against their own citizens, Syria’s suppression of theirs and on and on and on. We all know that conservatives favorite past time is pointing out the hypocrisy of Obama for enacting a foreign policy regime that Bush would recognize as his own. So what’s the criticism exactly? If you think imperialism works you can’t possibly blame Obama for what’s going on. And if you believe U.S. foreign policy has produced this violence, ten shouldn’t you have voted for Ron Paul in the primary?

In terms of the political implications for the election: There won’t be any. This is the most isolationist electorate since before World War II. Beat the war drum at your peril.

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Guys, guys. obama’s got this. Right after he sets up a photo op to be pictured next to the dead rioter’s coffin. … Which he won’t start seriously planning until the back nine.

But, really. He’s got his.

hawkdriver on September 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM

hawkdriver:

Nooooo I do not think so….not feeling it…..not!!
(sarc):)

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:00 AM

Here we go again.

gophergirl on September 17, 2012 at 9:01 AM

So electing someone who’s lived in a Muslim country sure has worked out well for us, hasn’t it?

rbj on September 17, 2012 at 9:02 AM

In case anyone wonders, the bounty is now up to $3.3 million — for a novel written nearly 25 years ago. When the book got published, radical Islamists started riots around the world, which sounds rather familiar this month.

salman must be happy with the news, it means that he will sell a few more books!

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:02 AM

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

.
Would all Conservatives who believe “that there was stability and peace in the Middle East prior to last week” please raise your hands?

(mine’s down, BTW)
.
Oh c’mon, surely there must be a conservative here somewhere that believes this, right?

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Almost forgot to ask- are our Marines allowed to lock ‘n’ load real deadly force in their small-arms, now?

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

listens2glenn:

Lemme see,um,I`m betting that Obama will see,an armed
US Soldier as an affront to Islam,and more likey, a threat!
(snark)

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:03 AM

“one rioter killed”…there’s your problem right there…all the rioters should be killed

thedevilinside on September 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM

I suspect Obama is preparing extradition orders for S. Rushdie as a write. Clearly, he is the original source for this Muslim rage.

sarc

GCM on September 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Smart Power!

wargamer6 on September 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM

“If I had a son, he’d look just like that dead rioter.”

robblefarian on September 17, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Protesters held placards and shouted slogans against the United States government. One placard read, “O Obama, we are all Osama.”

does this mean we can nuke them all?

Another placard read, “Blasphemy is not freedom of expression, and its sentence is death.”

lovely placard from the religion of peace™

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:05 AM

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

.
There was NO sense of impending DOOM to our ambassadors and their staff, prior to this.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Would all Conservatives who believe “that there was stability and peace in the Middle East prior to last week” please raise your hands?

(mine’s down, BTW)
.
Oh c’mon, surely there must be a conservative here somewhere that believes this, right?

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:02 AM

If instabiiity is the constant then what is your criticism of Obama foreign policy?

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

libfreeordie:

Um,are you comfortable,with what Mr.Burge
from Iowhawk stated!!!!
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The rush to pitch the First Amendment out the White House window inspired the great Iowahak to respond,

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog

Today I learned I have moderate liberal friends who are absolutely cool with the US govt conducting a nationwide manhunt for a movie maker.
(More………..)
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/the_white_house_and_press_create_a_fairy_tale_version_of_history.html

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 2:59 AM

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

I apologize for this violation of Free Speech

I’m Barack Obama and I approved this message

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Guys, guys. obama’s got this. Right after he sets up a photo op to be pictured next to the dead rioter’s coffin. … Which he won’t start seriously planning until the back nine.

But, really. He’s got his.

hawkdriver on September 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM

…………noooooooooo!…JugEars… “just needs to tell…the STORY better”!

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

There was NO sense of impending DOOM to our ambassadors and their staff, prior to this.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

The fact that you had to find a way to melodramatically and narrowly re-word the constant fact that the ME is an unstable place just proves my point.

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM

If instabiiity is the constant then what is your criticism of Obama foreign policy?

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

libfreeordie:

I know I`m wasting my time,but,Obama,

is the,

……………………….INSTABILITY…….!!!!

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Since everyone has been clamoring for my opinion on this story here it is: I’m an idiot

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Pretty speeches in Cairo won’t change that, and sending out messages condemning the “denigration” of religious belief as an “abuse” of free speech won’t change it, either. In fact, it just encourages more of this response in the long run.

american politicians should make it clear that free speech is a right and will be defended no matter if the speech is an “abuse” or not.

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

This was a completely spontaneous act in response to an episode of Sesame Street in which Elmo missed morning prayers.

Now move along, there’s nothing to see here.

M240H on September 17, 2012 at 9:11 AM

The Arab Spring! This’ll be great for re-election!

I’m BO and I approved this foreign policy

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Hundreds of Afghans burned cars and threw rocks at a U.S. military base as a demonstration against an anti-Islam film that ridicules the Prophet Muhammad turned violent in the Afghan capital early on Monday.

“That will show those yankee bastiges that we mean business!”

-Yeah! Now let’s drive home and celebrate.

“Uh….we burned all our cars.”

Bishop on September 17, 2012 at 9:11 AM

If instabiiity is the constant then what is your criticism of Obama foreign policy?

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

…you haven’t pulled your own finger this morning…have you?

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM

The Adminstration is insulting our intelligence pretending that a movie alone is the cause of the violence.

You mean, “Obama” is.

Conservatives are doing the same by pretending that there was stability and peace in the Middle East prior to last week.

No, Conservative are not saying it started last week. It started under you president pushing then pounding his freaking chest about his “Arab Spring”. He’s not taking credit for that anymore, Teach?

In fact there has been nothing but instability, or are we forgetting the invasions of Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan, hezbollah-lebanon and Isreal fight, Sudan’s genocide against their own citizens, Syria’s suppression of theirs and on and on and on.

My God. Do you really teach young people? You’re deluded if you think we’re stupid enough to not be able to separate the specific things in the Middle East, right now, that obama is claiming credit for and previous operations that have nothing to do with “his” Arab Spring.

We all know that conservatives favorite past time is pointing out the hypocrisy of Obama for enacting a foreign policy regime that Bush would recognize as his own.

We all know liberal transpose what they’d like to still blame Bush for through what they must think is clever associations in their sentense structure. News flash, obama started and supported Arab Spring. Remember you guys bragging how he fixed the Middle East over Bush’s “bungling” You own this. To include the Free Syrian Army that this administration is supporting cutting off heads and executing prisoners with M4s we’re sending them.

So what’s the criticism exactly?

That he’s badly handled the ME since he’s been president and our standing is actually worse than under President Bush.

If you think imperialism works you can’t possibly blame Obama for what’s going on. And if you believe U.S. foreign policy has produced this violence, ten shouldn’t you have voted for Ron Paul in the primary?

Liberal Professor-speak that has nothing to do with the subject.

In terms of the political implications for the election: There won’t be any. This is the most isolationist electorate since before World War II. Beat the war drum at your peril.

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Seemed to work for you guys when you make big points of poor foreign policy. Or do you just run down the point when it’s a Republican at the helm. Silly question, I know. or course you do. Even when it meant putting our troops, my friends and family in danger. Hypocrisy, thy name is liberal.

hawkdriver on September 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Any “deity” incapable of defending his (or her) self, can’t be much of a deity.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 8:48 AM

being defenseless from human blasphemy is something all deities share. if any defense is done, its by use of human minions.

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:13 AM

If instabiiity is the constant then what is your criticism of Obama foreign policy?

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

.
Going on an “Apologize To The World Tour”, shortly after swearing in.

And he hasn’t stopped apologizing, since.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:14 AM

This was a completely spontaneous act in response to an episode of Sesame Street in which Elmo missed morning prayers.

Now move along, there’s nothing to see here.

M240H on September 17, 2012 at 9:11 AM

You forgot Burt carried an injured comrade to the hospital to “get them better” *winky*

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:14 AM

The fact that you had to find a way to melodramatically and narrowly re-word the constant fact that the ME is an unstable place just proves my point.

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM

…ok!…someone pull his finger before his head explodes!

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 9:14 AM

“one rioter killed”…there’s your problem right there…all the rioters should be killed

thedevilinside on September 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM

thedevilinside:

I`m thinking,more along the lines,of a `Death Zone Perimeter`,around
any US/Canadian Embassy,Consulate,of at least a half mile,anything
in zee ring,is targettable….and Toast!!

Now that would ensure,the precious lifes of Americans/Canadians!!
(a tad sarc).

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:15 AM

But, but, but, they’re the Religion of Peace (TM)! The liberals told me so!
/

Mr. Prodigy on September 17, 2012 at 9:15 AM

We all know that conservatives favorite past time is pointing out the hypocrisy of Obama for enacting a foreign policy regime that Bush would recognize as his own. So what’s the criticism exactly?

Actually the favorite pastime is pointing out the hypocrisy of Barky voters who ran around screaming in the face of every conservative that the cool new black guy was going to be different. Then when he turned out to be just like Dubya, your anti-war marches conveniently disappeared along with your criticism.

Bishop on September 17, 2012 at 9:16 AM

the religion of Pieces of the infidel

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:16 AM

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 8:48 AM

.
being defenseless from human blasphemy is something all deities share. if any defense is done, its by use of human minions.

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:13 AM

.
The God of the Bible doesn’t need Christian believers to defend him from “blasphemy”, or any other “assault” from anyone.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:17 AM

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

The fact that you had to find a way to melodramatically and narrowly re-word the constant fact that the ME is an unstable place just proves my point.

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Actually he was mocking you for the profound ignorance of your assertion that conservatives believe their was anything even remotely resembling stability in the middle east. Perhaps you should look up the words “Mockery” and “Derision” in the dictionary.

SWalker on September 17, 2012 at 9:18 AM

The message from Karachi, Iran, and the burning embassies in Arab nations is that radical Islamists reject freedom of speech and religious expression entirely.

The ME assault on our First Amendment freedom is not new. What is new… and most disturbing… is the sympathy it now receives from the White House.

petefrt on September 17, 2012 at 9:19 AM

I agree SWalker

for instance – I don’t believe libfree knows you are mocking them whilst telling them of previous mockery.

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:21 AM

The fact that you had to find a way to melodramatically and narrowly re-word the constant fact that the ME is an unstable place just proves my point.

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM

O…M…G!

Are you serious?

Are you really asking that after, “we” were attacked on our home soil and we still had liberals blaming “us” for being attacked.

So what, now it’s just, “Oh, those silly Muslims. You just can’t figure them.”

Are you not ashamed with what you try to push? Do you not sit in the quiet of your thoughts and at least on rare occasions come to the conclusion you live on more levels of standards than would seem humanly possible to rationalize and justify your political objectives? And here’s the part that chaps my ass. You liberals do it without regard to the danger it puts our soldiers and civilians overseas in. In fact, when it’s Republican at the helm, you *&*&^%$ keep score!

hawkdriver on September 17, 2012 at 9:21 AM

If instabiiity is the constant then what is your criticism of Obama foreign policy?

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Obama assured us we’d turned the corner on this. He said that the past would not be the future (this is almost an exact quote).

He’s soft on Iran and has distanced us from our only real ally in the region (Israel).

He stabbed Mubarak in the back ushering the Muslim Brotherhood into power (and we’ve been assured by his administration – including Clinton – that the Muslim Brotherhood were moderates); claiming that an “Arab Spring” was an outpouring of a desire for democracy and moderation in the middle east.

Obama is naive and foolish – dangerously so.

gwelf on September 17, 2012 at 9:21 AM

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Jesus H. Christ, words of wisdom from a leftie! Why can’t we rid of our other resident trolls and get more like him?

Archivarix on September 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Actually he was mocking you for the profound ignorance of your assertion that conservatives believe their was anything even remotely resembling stability in the middle east. Perhaps you should look up the words “Mockery” and “Derision” in the dictionary.

SWalker on September 17, 2012 at 9:18 AM

…he’s a liberal…he has to have someone else do that…(his students)

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 9:23 AM

posted at 8:41 am on September 17, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The message from Karachi, Iran, and the burning embassies in Arab nations is that radical Islamists reject freedom of speech and religious expression entirely.

Ding ding ding! Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Per an earlier headline thread, it’s not so much the 10% of Muslims who are psychopaths and would cut off your head for naming a Teddy bear Mohammed, but the 90% who stand by and say nothing.

When I was a tween in 1970 I loved to listen to Cat Stevens. Talented, original, a spiritual seeker. Then he found Islam, which meant he couldn’t play a stringed instrument or sing his songs anymore. But the clincher was when someone asked him about the legitimacy of the fatwa against Rushdie, and he goes to his Koran, and says, yup, it says right here, the penalty for slandering the Prophet is death.

Later he said he was just making a technical point. That the Koran does indeed say that. Let’s put the pieces together.

1. Cat Stevens (Yusuf Islam) is a devout Muslim
2. The Koran is their literal holy book
3. The Koran says to kill those who slander Islam
4. He quoted from that section that says that

If Cat Stevens can be made to endorse such killing, then the whole religion is rotten.

These 90% of Muslims are the 90% of Germans of the 1930s and 1940s who said and did nothing to stop the Nazis.

Paul-Cincy on September 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

They don’t need any excuses. As long as there is a single non-believer – whether or not he/she has the guts to say anything – they will demand blood.

Islam is a cancer on civilization.

Rixon on September 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

I’m still here; I’m just having a great time reading all of the other replies to libfree’.

This is FUN. : )

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Jesus H. Christ, words of wisdom from a leftie! Why can’t we rid of our other resident trolls and get more like him?

Archivarix on September 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

haha, pleeeeeeeeze.

they’re just repeating isolationist theory we’ve heard a thousand times. I’m all for the Paulian approach but I’m consistent…

if a pub was president this libfree tool would be decrying our inhumane foreign policy and wearing a vagina costume at a code pink war protest.

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

being defenseless from human blasphemy is something all deities share. if any defense is done, its by use of human minions.

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Wow… That might actually qualify as the stupidest thing anyone has every posted on the internet.

de·i·ty
   [dee-i-tee] Show IPA
noun, plural de·i·ties.
1.
a god or goddess.
2.
divine character or nature, especially that of the Supreme Being; divinity.

the Deity, God; Supreme Being.

Definition of GOD
1
capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as
a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe
b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
2
: a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality

Ergo, by definition, one of unlimited power.

SWalker on September 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

and sending out messages condemning the “denigration” of religious belief as an “abuse” of free speech won’t change it, either.

You got that right.

@RasmussenPoll

72% Put Freedom of Speech Ahead of Not Offending Other Cultures..http://t.co/fqwgXASc

or, as Iowa Hawk put it:

‏@iowahawkblog

Unlike their government, Americans aren’t craven groveling PC pus-sies http://t.co/8Z1r5Mgr

Flora Duh on September 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Per an earlier headline thread, it’s not so much the 10% of Muslims who are psychopaths and would cut off your head for naming a Teddy bear Mohammed, but the 90% who stand by and say nothing.

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These 90% of Muslims are the 90% of Germans of the 1930s and 1940s who said and did nothing to stop the Nazis.

Paul-Cincy on September 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Dead wrong. The 90% condone, actively approve, and often willingly support the 10%. Take from someone who lived in the Middle East for a full decade.

Archivarix on September 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

These 90% of Muslims are the 90% of Germans of the 1930s and 1940s who said and did nothing to stop the Nazis.

Paul-Cincy on September 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

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Well stated.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Since everyone has been clamoring for my opinion on this story here it is:

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Not everyone Skippy, not even close. I would humbly submit that it was just you thinking out loud again.

Your man-child is a complete and utter disaster. This is the result of his foreign policy and nothing else, pull up your underoos your embarrassing yourself. But you know that already, right professor?

This is why our educational system is in decline, liberalism is a mental disorder.

D-fusit on September 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM

No one thinks Obama directly caused the middle east to be violent. But he’s encouraged them by showing weakness and being apologetic and trying to be “understanding” (the administrations line about deep respect for religious beliefs is laughable given how they treat religious institutions at home).

gwelf on September 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Oops,Dempsey Strikes Again!!

Dempsey: U.S. Must Remain Engaged with Muslim World

By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
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ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT, Sept. 16, 2012 –

The recent anti-American demonstrations that have occurred in many Muslim countries “demands for us to be more engaged, not less engaged,” the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said today during an aircraft flight from Sibiu, Romania, to Ankara, Turkey.

Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey said the situation is the most complex he has seen since becoming chairman.

In Libya, a coordinated attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi resulted in the deaths of four Americans including the U.S. ambassador to the country. There have been anti-American demonstrations in Egypt, Yemen, Tunisia, Pakistan and many others.

While the spark that ignited the demonstrations was a crude video that denigrated Islam, there are several factors that have contributed to rage against the United States, the chairman said.

The chairman wants to learn from the situation. “At some level, I think what we are seeing are societies that have been suppressed,” he said. “They have not had anything like freedom of speech or even the ability to congregate.”

Security forces in these countries are for the first time under civilian rule, and are less likely to intervene unless directed by political leaders, the chairman said.

And, he said, there are often power struggles within the countries.

“Some of those groups are truly anti-American and radical and violent,” Dempsey said. “Certainly you have these groups that are anti-American, who are extreme, who are competing for power in the country.”

These extremist groups often did not accumulate the number of votes they’d thought they would get in free elections, Dempsey said. Such groups that experienced failure at the ballot box, he added, could “now try to gain some traction around the idea of being anti-American in order to gain influence for themselves. These groups are trying to manipulate the population.”

Now is not the time for the United States to withdraw from these countries, the chairman said.

http://www.defense.gov//News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=117877
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https://twitter.com/i/#!/DeptofDefense/dodleaders

“It demands for us to be more engaged, not less engaged,” he said, “so that we can counter that message of extremism that is being propagated by these violent, extreme organizations.”

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

libfree would be wearing a vag costume at a code pink rally if Mitt was President.

they’d be like, “wrong rally libfree! quick, and put on this upside down flag decal”

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

POCKESTAN? It’s a classic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s1MspmfEwg

BigAlSouth on September 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

I agree SWalker

for instance – I don’t believe libfree knows you are mocking them whilst telling them of previous mockery.

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Sigh, true, a double entendre might actually be beyond his intellectual “Pay Grade”…

SWalker on September 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Who was it that said “When I’m inaugurated, muslim hostility towards America will cease”?

I think it may have been Richard Nixon, but honestly I’m not sure.

Bishop on September 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM

The God of the Bible doesn’t need Christian believers to defend him from “blasphemy”, or any other “assault” from anyone.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:17 AM

god seems to be less demanding of protection according to the ages. lets see what the catholic encyclopedia says about the punishment for blasphemy during the middle ages:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02595a.htm

Medieval canon law punished the blasphemer most severely. By a decree of the thirteenth century one convicted of blasphemy was compelled to stand at the door of the church during the solemnities of the Mass for seven Sundays, and on the last of these days, divested of cloak and shoes, he was to appear with a rope about his neck. Obligations of fasting and alms-giving were likewise imposed under heaviest penalties (Decret., lib. V, tit. xxvi). The rigours of the ancient discipline were insisted upon by Pius V in his Constitution “Cum primum apostolatus” (p. 10). According to the law herein laid down, the layman found guilty of blasphemy was fined. The fine was increased upon his second offence, and upon his third he was sent into exile. If unable to pay the fine, he was upon the first conviction condemned to stand before the door of the church, his hands tied behind him. For the second offence he was flogged, and for the third his tongue was pierced, and he was sentenced to the galleys. The blasphemous cleric, if possessed of a benefice, lost upon his first offence a year’s income; upon his second he was deprived of his benefice and exiled. If enjoying no benefice, he was first subjected to a fine and bodily punishment; on repeating the offence he was imprisoned, and still persisting, he was degraded and condemned to the galleys.

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

@iowahawkblog

Unlike their government, Americans aren’t craven groveling PC pus-sies http://t.co/8Z1r5Mgr

Flora Duh on September 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Flora Duh:Thanks FD,I now have a *smirck*,on me face!:)

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

libfree would be wearing a vag costume at a code pink rally if Mitt was President.

they’d be like, “wrong rally libfree! quick, and put on this upside down flag decal”

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

ROTFLMAO….. No, I’m pretty sure the last thing on earth you are ever going to get Libfree into is a vagina… Even if it is just a costume…

SWalker on September 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

libfree would be wearing a vag costume at a code pink rally if Mitt was President.

they’d be like, “wrong rally libfree! quick, and put on this upside down flag decal”

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

ROTFLMAO….. No, I’m pretty sure the last thing on earth you are ever going to get Libfree into is a vagin.a… Even if it is just a costume…

SWalker on September 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

I know I`m wasting my time,but,Obama,

is the,

……………………….INSTABILITY…….!!!!

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

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Alright, that’ll be just about enough time (and bandwidth) wasting out of you.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Leaving before I lose it. We just had a discussion I believe about how we comport ourselves here. I’d die if I embarrassed my fellow Conservatives on a thread.

May I just say that I think liberals, when taking the totality of their vitriol, hypocrisy and lying into consideration, leave much for Conservative to feel justified for in returning like behavior?

And in my opinion, after being a liberal trying to justify this president’s handling of the Middle East, one would have to give oral massage therapy to the unkempt, alcohol-addicted gentlemen sleeping behind the train station, to get whatever modicum of self respect back that might have previously had.

I should go before I get banned. If not already.

hawkdriver on September 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

If instabiiity is the constant then what is your criticism of Obama foreign policy?

libfreeordie on September 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

“I’ve got a little bumper sticker for you: Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive.” ~ Joe Biden repeatedly during the 2 weeks prior to the attacks

Protesters held placards and shouted slogans against the United States government. One placard read, “O Obama, we are all Osama.”

Flora Duh on September 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

god seems to be less demanding of protection according to the ages. lets see what the catholic encyclopedia says about the punishment for blasphemy during the middle ages:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02595a.htm

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Wow, that was like yesterday. Your an idiot, here’s your sign.

D-fusit on September 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

that shocked me hawkdriver

I’m shocked by your vitriolic extreme vitriol

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Just random mob rabble being stirred up spontaneously, nothing to see here. Move along. Thats Barrys story and Jay Carney is sticking to it.

Philly on September 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Dead wrong. The 90% condone, actively approve, and often willingly support the 10%. Take from someone who lived in the Middle East for a full decade.

Archivarix on September 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

I don’t know that I’m wrong. I was being charitable. Yet, it’s curious that someone has a religion (Islam) they love and cherish, and you have fellow members crapping all over it by advocating or even just condoning death fatwas, and they do and say nothing about it. I’d be pissed. Christians, Jews, Buddhists, would all give their fellow members hell, if they twisted THEIR religion in that way. They’d gang up on them, and denounce them, and shame them, and ostracize them.

Paul-Cincy on September 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

turdfreeordie !…there’s another thread up and all the kooks are coming out over there…QUICK!

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

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The reason why The Dark Ages were dark, was due to Christians perpetrating such stupidity.

I’m pretty sure we’ve matured beyond that. If you don’t, then there’s not too much else I can say about it.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM

go eagles
by the way

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

that shocked me hawkdriver

I’m shocked by your vitriolic extreme vitriol

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

I know. I therefore self-ban myself, again, for not less than 48 hours.

hawkdriver on September 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Obama! Obama!
The guy is a jinx.

albill on September 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM

haha

Slade73 on September 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM

“Pretty speeches in Cairo won’t change that, and sending out messages condemning the “denigration” of religious belief as an “abuse” of free speech won’t change it, either.”

Two-faced Barack Hussein Obama thumbs his nose at Catholic doctrine but says be sensitive to Muslim doctrine yet claims to be Christian.

aknews on September 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

The Latest!
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Sep 17, 9:42 AM EDT

Here’s a look at protests and reaction across the Middle East and elsewhere Monday over an anti-Muslim film produced in the U.S. ridiculing the Prophet Muhammad.
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PROPHET_FILM_PROTESTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-17-09-37-57

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:50 AM

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

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Alright, that’ll be just about enough time (and bandwidth) wasting out of you.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

listens2glenn:

Thats it,I will FLOGG myself,for band-width Sins,haha,ahem!
(sarc).

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM

It used to be that our illustrious liberal leaders in Wash DC treated terrorism as criminal acts. Now it’s total capitulation and somehow this movie-maker’s fault that is fueling this round of anti-American extremism.

It totally disgusts me how Hillary is apologizing to these radical animals and Obama wants to keep sweeping all this under the rug…out of sight, out of mind.

There’s an election to be won.

JetBoy on September 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

The reason why The Dark Ages were dark, was due to Christians perpetrating such stupidity.

ok, that is acceptable and i agree. of course, for an atheist like me, it seems strange that theological interpretations in Christianity can both justify punishment or tolerance for blasphemy.

I’m pretty sure we’ve matured beyond that. If you don’t, then there’s not too much else I can say about it.

listens2glenn on September 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM

I am very happy that christian are very tolerant today. Truth be told, they also lost power to be intolerant! but I do believe christians today are are, at heart, tolerant.
pointing out that it was not allways like that does not make me immature.

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Thats it,I will FLOGG myself,for band-width Sins,haha,ahem!
(sarc).

canopfor on September 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Don’t you mean CANE yourself…….

D-fusit on September 17, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Wow, that was like yesterday. Your an idiot, here’s your sign.

D-fusit on September 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

I know it was long ago, and lets keep it that way!

nathor on September 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM

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