Ryan: QE3 is a bailout for Obama

posted at 1:31 pm on September 16, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

There has been no end of distracting topics for the media to focus on over the last week, but under the covers, the economy is still there and the cliff lying ahead of us hasn’t gone away. Somewhat overshadowed by foreign policy discussions was the decision by the Fed to launch into QE3. (For the few of you just joining the program, that’s the third stage of “quantitative easing.”) The lower half of America’s Comeback Team didn’t miss it, though, and called it out for what it is.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said the Federal Reserve’s latest policy shift amounts to a “bailout” of the economy under President Obama.

Speaking at a campaign event in Oldsmar, Fla., Mitt Romney’s vice presidential candidate lambasted the Fed’s recent decision to try and do more to boost the economy as “sugar high economics.”

“We don’t need synthetic money creation. We need economic growth. We want wealth creation,” he said. “We don’t want to print money. We want opportunity and growth.”

So what is the future Veep talking about? We’ve already had two rounds of “easing” so far, right? Why is this different? Well… it is.

On Thursday, the Fed announced it was embarking on a third round of “quantitative easing,” in which it would buy up $40 billion of bonds every month. But in a new move, the Fed said this time it would be continuing the purchases until it was satisfied with the rate of growth in the labor market — the past two rounds of easing were set at a specific volume of purchases. The Fed also said it expected to keep interest rates near zero until mid-2015 (it had previously predicted rates would stay low until the end of 2014), and that it was willing to do more if it found it necessary.

Read that last part again. We’re not just talking about opening up the candy store for a few hours here. We’ve done that before, but investors know that if they’re going to have to cover a shortfall a few months down the line, they’ll remain cautious if the free market isn’t going to continue the surge. But this is essentially the same as saying that it’s party time for the next few years so the sky is the limit. This is a sugar rush. But it’s one where the hangover doesn’t come due for a long time.

How long does it need to last? Till the first week in November. After that the party is over anyway. But if it pumps up the numbers on Wall Street and gets people in a mood to toss cash into the ring, it bumps up the metrics. I know what you’re thinking here… the Fed is beyond politics and I’m just being cynical. What can I say? I’m suspicious by nature.


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And for the 1%rs. Obama hates the middle and lower classes.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Undecided voters don’t understand QE3 and ‘easing’. Stay focused.

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 1:33 PM

How QE3 helps the rich and soaks all others.

Yes, Obama is a hypocrite, a hoax extraordinaire.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Bernanke is a traitor and must go.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM

everyone in the Obama administration is a criminal. The first year of Romney’s term should be dedicated to prosecutions, vacating EOs and sun-setting regulations/laws.

Joe Mama on September 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM

The price of gas today would probably connect a lot more.

Wethal on September 16, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Abolish the Federal Reserve

SouthernGent on September 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM

I’m sorry, but I cannot picture Romney much different than Obama when it comes to government financing.

All we hear from Romney is about tax cuts, and little about spending. Is he the type of man who will take decisive, immediate action after he is elected, in contrast to some of what he said on the campaign?

We can end up going into deeper in debt, and that could negate any positive benefits the tax cuts would have benefited.

V-rod on September 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Good job Ryan. Now can we have Romney say it? Where is he by the way?

bgibbs1000 on September 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Will it help him till November? Check out the price of gas and food already, if Romney can get by the media filter and tell the people in clear language that the reason the price of gas and food is rising and will continue to rise is directly the result of this crap, he could hurt Obama hard. That’s a big if.

lowandslow on September 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Rick Perry was right…printing money is like treason. If you keep adding water to milk, pretty soon you’ll just have water. The masses don’t realize what an insidious form of inflationary taxation this is, nor what an evil political maneuver!

RonRon on September 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM

The price of gas today would probably connect a lot more.

And food and utilities could be added as their cost is skyrocketing also!
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letget on September 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM

The first year of Romney’s term should be dedicated to prosecutions

Joe Mama on September 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Issa did nothing to Holder, and nothing happens to Sebelius, what makes you think, ah, skip it.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Housing Bubble!!

Stock Bubble!!

What could go wrong?

PattyJ on September 16, 2012 at 1:42 PM

…wonder why gas won’t go down when you pay for a barrel in petrodollars?

KOOLAID2 on September 16, 2012 at 1:42 PM

We’d better all start bailing because this ship’s a-sinkin’.

trigon on September 16, 2012 at 1:42 PM

if Romney can get by the media filter

lowandslow on September 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!

You guys are a barrel of monkeys today!

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 1:43 PM

QE3 is the end of our economy.

wildcat72 on September 16, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Will it help him till November? Check out the price of gas and food already, if Romney can get by the media filter and tell the people in clear language that the reason the price of gas and food is rising and will continue to rise is directly the result of this crap, he could hurt Obama hard. That’s a big if.

lowandslow on September 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM

You’ve got to actually go out there and attempt to do it in the first place. So far he hasn’t even tried.

bgibbs1000 on September 16, 2012 at 1:43 PM

At least I can heat my shop this winter with the soon to be worthless U.S. currency I’ve been keeping in the safe.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Housing Bubble!!

Stock Bubble!!

What could go wrong?

PattyJ on September 16, 2012 at 1:42 PM

“I’ll take Monetary Bubbles for $500, Alex.”

trigon on September 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM

We’d better all start bailing because this ship’s a-sinkin’.

trigon on September 16, 2012 at 1:42 PM

QE3 is not a bailout, it is overloading with stones and you can’t bail stones.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Give Obie He!! Paul Ryan!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM

The Fed is basically assuring investors that there’s no particular reason to get out of federal bonds and, you know, actually invest.

Seth Halpern on September 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM

At least I can heat my shop this winter with the soon to be worthless U.S. currency I’ve been keeping in the safe.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 1:44 P

You ain’t fooling anyone, you have gold and ammo in the safe.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Rio Linda Refugee on September 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Good point!!..:)

PS..Great to see you back!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Good afternoon, Dire! Nice to see you!:)

thatsafactjack on September 16, 2012 at 1:47 PM

At least I can heat my shop this winter with the soon to be worthless U.S. currency I’ve been keeping in the safe.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 1:44 PM

I wonder how popular Barry and Mooch will be when winter comes, our dollars are worthless to the point the parasites can’t get their government cheese anymore but they are still feasting on Wagu beef and lobsters?

wildcat72 on September 16, 2012 at 1:47 PM

You ain’t fooling anyone, you have gold and ammo in the safe.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I have many safes scattered about.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 1:48 PM

For anyone that thinks that this wasn’t political, one need only look at the current economic numbers to see that it was. GDP is positive (albeit a lie) UE is dropping (again a lie) and other econ. data is weak but not catastrophic. So what exactly necessitated this move that wouldn’t have been there 6-8 mos. ago? So, either Benny sees a scat storm on the ST horizon and decided to open the spigots to head it off or his real aim was to pump up Barry until post-election. I’ll take door number two…..

volnation on September 16, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Ryan is great at telling people about what this gosh horrible qe3 mess will do, but he needs to slam home the point to seniors(especially) and others with cd’ or anything else they need for income! There will be much much much less income with this new printing of money for them to have!
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letget on September 16, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Ryan: QE3 is a bailout for Obama

They were all bailouts for political pals, TARP included. This latest bailout is an attempt by Obama to keep the economy afloat until the election is over.

sharrukin on September 16, 2012 at 1:49 PM

PS..Great to see you back!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Thnx, I’ve been checking in occasionally waiting for something worth opining on.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 16, 2012 at 1:50 PM

It’s a “CYA” for Bernanke, as well. If Obama is toast, then so is he.

listens2glenn on September 16, 2012 at 1:51 PM

So, either Benny sees a scat storm on the ST horizon and decided to open the spigots to head it off or his real aim was to pump up Barry until post-election. I’ll take door number two…..

volnation on September 16, 2012 at 1:48 PM

So yet one more turncoat left over from W.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 1:51 PM

The most valuable commodity of the future, unless change comes in November/January:

LEAD.

wildcat72 on September 16, 2012 at 1:51 PM

I have many safes scattered about.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Heh, but you are more intelligent than to have enough paper money to heat with.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 16, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Hasn’t Romney said he will replace Bernanke? That’s why Bernanke will do everything he can to get Obama reelected. Personally, I think Romney should start calling for an audit of the Fed. That may turn off some conservatives, but would appeal to many independent voters.

GCM on September 16, 2012 at 1:52 PM

It’s a “CYA” for Bernanke, as well. If Obama is toast, then so is he.

listens2glenn on September 16, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Bern-Yankme is more concerned with saving his job than Obama’s. Romney has already said he would not renominate this idiot.

He should go further than that, he should promise that his first act as President will be to FIRE Bern-Yankme.

wildcat72 on September 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Is it possible to stuff a good, crisp-clean explanation of what “quantitative easing” actually is, and how the non-rich get shafted with it, into a 30 seconds clip? I’m sure the low-information voters will tune in for the message, as opposed to pep talk or mudslinging.

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Yes, a bailout for Obama! For mainstream America, high gas and food prices.

jjnco73 on September 16, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Hasn’t Romney said he will replace Bernanke? That’s why Bernanke will do everything he can to get Obama reelected. Personally, I think Romney should start calling for an audit of the Fed. That may turn off some conservatives, but would appeal to many independent voters.

GCM on September 16, 2012 at 1:52 PM

How the heck would any conservative be turned off by auditing, or even abolishing the Fed?

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Is it possible to stuff a good, crisp-clean explanation of what “quantitative easing” actually is, and how the non-rich get shafted with it, into a 30 seconds clip? I’m sure the low-information voters will tune in for the message, as opposed to pep talk or mudslinging.

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM

After QEs 1 & 2, it can be shrugged off as sour grapes by the Rethuglicans trying to obstruct the valiant Chicago Jesus.

The average schmoe off the street with access to a ballot will buy it hook, line & sinker.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 1:55 PM

You ain’t fooling anyone, you have gold and ammo in the safe.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I have many safes scattered about.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 1:48 PM

…well get the one out of the bunker!…I want damn room for me!

KOOLAID2 on September 16, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Is it possible to stuff a good, crisp-clean explanation of what “quantitative easing” actually is, and how the non-rich get shafted with it, into a 30 seconds clip? I’m sure the low-information voters will tune in for the message, as opposed to pep talk or mudslinging.

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Just show a guy going into McDonalds, ordering a burger and fries, and having the kid at the counter tell him it’ll be $800.

trigon on September 16, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Let’s print more money and see what happens! Jimmy Carter knows…Why is he not informing his friend about this style of governing? Remember Jimmy? Double digit inflation…Oil Embargo……Unrest in Iran and the Middle East? Deja Vu?

BigMike252 on September 16, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Hasn’t Romney said he will replace Bernanke? That’s why Bernanke will do everything he can to get Obama reelected. Personally, I think Romney should start calling for an audit of the Fed. That may turn off some conservatives, but would appeal to many independent voters.

Romney has said he will not re-appoint Bernacke.

he cannot legallly replace him.

gerrym51 on September 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Undecided voters don’t understand QE3 and ‘easing’. Stay focused.
faraway on September 16, 2012 at 1:33 PM

They don’t understand anything. Have you tried belittling Obama supporters yet and making voting for Obama seem foolish?

No? Here’s a hint: undecided voters don’t read Hot Air. Now get out there and go Alinsky on these dupes and get back to us.

happytobehere on September 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Thnx, I’ve been checking in occasionally waiting for something worth opining on.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 16, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Good deal!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Bern-Yankme is more concerned with saving his job than Obama’s. Romney has already said he would not renominate this idiot.

He should go further than that, he should promise that his first act as President will be to FIRE Bern-Yankme.

wildcat72 on September 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Remember that Bernanke and Greenspan served during Bush.
Any chairman would easily continue on Bernanke’s path.

Would Romney take a radical step and put in one of those “lone wolf” who voted against Quantitative Easing while the rest voted in favor?

I have trouble picturing that as well.

V-rod on September 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Romney has already said he would not renominate this idiot.

He should go further than that, he should promise that his first act as President will be to FIRE Bern-Yankme.

wildcat72 on September 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM

.
I second that motion.
.
Motion now moves to the floor . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . IS ANYBODY IN THE MITT ROMNEY CAMPAIGN PAYING ATTENTION ? !

listens2glenn on September 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Jazz Shaw and his favorite Paul Ryan are always late on the issue.

Always just reiterating what Palin had said earlier!

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Romney has said he will not re-appoint Bernacke.

he cannot legallly replace him.

gerrym51 on September 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM

He could appoint Ron Paul.

Question is, could Paul be confirmed?

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM

After QEs 1 & 2, it can be shrugged off as sour grapes by the Rethuglicans trying to obstruct the valiant Chicago Jesus.

The average schmoe off the street with access to a ballot will buy it hook, line & sinker.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 1:55 PM

The average schmoe off the street has to buy milk and fill the gas tank occasionally. Do not even mention Obama or Romney in the ad; just connect the dots between the money pile and the price of goods. Very few people are so stupid as to fail to tune in, and those vote for Obama anyway.

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

The hypocrisy is that Paul Ryan has recently VOTED YES to the Continuing Resolution to fund Obamacare.

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

gerrym51 on September 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM

He will hopefully resign..Then Romney can replace him with Steve Forbes!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 2:00 PM

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

You are a joke!!..Move along!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Romney has said he will not re-appoint Bernacke.

he cannot legallly replace him.

gerrym51
on September 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM

.
Why not?

If anyone fights this, it’ll prove to one and all that the Federal Reserve Bank is NOT part of the U.S. Government.

listens2glenn on September 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Obama – buying his re-election with our tax dollars.

When does the fighting in the street begin again? I want to be sure not to miss it.

Midas on September 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM

You are a joke!!..Move along!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Well, a Joker is better than the lying, flip-flopping Ryan and Romney!

I move forward!

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Jazz Shaw and his favorite Paul Ryan are always late on the issue.
Always just reiterating what Palin had said earlier!
TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM

And this bothers you? Surely you want her to have some influence, no? She didn’t run, this is the next best thing, right?

happytobehere on September 16, 2012 at 2:05 PM

And let’s not forget that the 40 billion being spent every month is just pissing money. It’s to be spent on more toxic assets in an attempt to spur the housing market. The same crap that almost took us down four years ago. In the end the bonds he wants to buy will be worthless, as I said, just pissing away.

lowandslow on September 16, 2012 at 2:05 PM

just connect the dots between the money pile and the price of goods. Very few people are so stupid as to fail to tune in, and those vote for Obama anyway.

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

That same average schmoe can still be made to believe that the Rethuglicans have caused all of this.

Sorry, I’m afraid the country may be too et up with stupid at this point. Hate to be pessimistic. But the older I get, the more I try never to get my hopes up.

He will hopefully resign..Then Romney can replace him with Steve Forbes!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I think Neal Boortz needs a new job after inauguration day.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 2:05 PM

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM

With QE3 and all, can’t Hot Air afford better trolls?

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

I work for an evil drug company in northern Illinois. I get so tired of hearing people praise 0dumbo and deride Romney. I work with seemingly intelligent people, then I hear them saying, “If Romney gets elected, I don’t know what I’m gonna do”. I wish I could get into it with them, but I need my job. So glad I got an Elantra that gets good gas mileage! I have to fill up at least twice a week, and it’s getting even more costly.

Sasha List on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Obama – buying his re-election with our children’s future tax dollars.

When does the fighting in the street begin again? I want to be sure not to miss it.

Midas on September 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Romney, buying votes with social security dollars, which will be paid for by again, our children’s future tax dollars. But hey, he has an (R) after his name, so, support support support!

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Romney has said he will not re-appoint Bernacke.

he cannot legallly replace him.

gerrym51 on September 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM

That is what I meant. Sorry for the imprecise wording.

GCM on September 16, 2012 at 2:07 PM

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Well if Palin would have said this..Oh wait..

PS..Continue to move foward!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Romney, buying votes with social security dollars

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

That evil Rmoney!

If only there was someone else to vote for…

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM

When Romney wins he needs to get rid of EVERYONE from the 0 administration! No hold-over appointments. Get a BIG broom and clean that White House! (Hope that isn’t racist)

Sasha List on September 16, 2012 at 2:09 PM

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Jump on the Obie train..There are seats availiable!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Is it possible to stuff a good, crisp-clean explanation of what “quantitative easing” actually is, and how the non-rich get shafted with it, into a 30 seconds clip? I’m sure the low-information voters will tune in for the message, as opposed to pep talk or mudslinging.

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM

What Benny is planning to do is buy crap mortgage paper from the banks in an attempt to give them some leeway on the reserve requirements which, he hopes, will spur them to loan more to individuals/small businesses in an attempt to spur economic activity (it won’t). Which, because they hold tons of garbage mortgage notes, they have not yet been able to do. When rates are near zero and people still aren’t borrowing it’s not that there isn’t enough of an incentive to, it’s that no one wants to.

The one thing missing from this is a supply of qualified borrowers that want to borrow. Note the words “qualified” and “want” – gotta have both of those or no big boost in real lending. Most of the smart money (IOW’s “qualified”) is busy paying down current debt and would rather take a hot poker in the eye than borrow another dime. Add to that the underlying fact that the economy is in the crapper (and is likely to get worse) and no one in their right mind would borrow anything since your ROI is completely unknown. What this really is is another bailout for the banks since his actions will have the effect of sanitizing (over time) their balance sheets. It will affect the financial sector but do little to help the aggregate economy.

Lastly, the more important facet of Benney’s actions in the LT isn’t the announcement of the MBS purchases but rather his extension of “low rates” from 2014 to 2015. That signals to me that they know that the economy is going to stink for years to come, QE or no QE.

volnation on September 16, 2012 at 2:09 PM

How the heck would any conservative be turned off by auditing, or even abolishing the Fed?

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 1:55 PM

I think some conservatives see that as a bit too Ron Paul-ish. Personally, I’m all for it.

I also think the Romney should be running against the TBTF banks – no more bailouts.

GCM on September 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I think Neal Boortz needs a new job after inauguration day.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Interesting..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I move forward!

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM

…isn’t it uncomfortable with something lodged up there?

KOOLAID2 on September 16, 2012 at 2:11 PM

With QE3 and all, can’t Hot Air afford better trolls?

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Trolls are, by definition, pretty much low-rent.

trigon on September 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said the Federal Reserve’s latest policy shift amounts to a “bailout” of the economy under President Obama.

Paul Ryan’s roadmap (to the future enslavement of our children) is nothing but a bailout of the socialist policies that plague our nation with over spending and vote buying. The over spending will not stop and neither will the vote buying. Instead of vote buying by increasing the government paid coverages, it will be done with ever increasing subsidies to pay for the “insurance”.
No congress and no president can tie the hands of future presidents or congresses with laws passed today. Only a constitutional Amendment can do that. Anyone hear anything recently about a balanced budget amendment? Bueller? Bueller?

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Blah, blah, blah. Not an original thought in that tiny thing you call a cranium. Zzzzzz.

CW on September 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

And this bothers you? Surely you want her to have some influence, no? She didn’t run, this is the next best thing, right?

happytobehere on September 16, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Your disdain of Palin makes you think like the rest of the Mittbots.

The topic could have been the major issue during two conventions last August, when the Fed was secretly moving towards the same, and not at the middle of the current issue: Middle East.

Last time I looked, Romney’s recent statements vs. Obama’s handling of the ME crisis have been successfully cornered by the Dems and Romney’s favorite weapon during the primaries, MSM.

People here in HA are blind from the incompetence of RnR campaign.

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Bernanke and the Fed just gave Romney a huge gift –

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/09/bernanke-and-the-fed-just-gave-romney-a-huge-gift/

Pork-Chop on September 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM

I work for an evil drug company in northern Illinois. I get so tired of hearing people praise 0dumbo and deride Romney. I work with seemingly intelligent people, then I hear them saying, “If Romney gets elected, I don’t know what I’m gonna do”. I wish I could get into it with them, but I need my job. So glad I got an Elantra that gets good gas mileage! I have to fill up at least twice a week, and it’s getting even more costly.
Sasha List on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Don’t despair. You just need better tactics. Do not argue with them directly. They say these things about how awful Romney is and the greatness of Obama because they want your approval. Most libs and all “undecideds” are the most insecure people on the planet. Just make it clear that voting for Obama is embarrassing. We don’t need their vote, we just need them not pulling the lever for Obama. And they won’t if they feel it will make them “feel” foolish.

Make fun of the typical Obama voter. Make it clear that being like those people is silly.

happytobehere on September 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM

I live and work in Europe. The Euro is in a precarious position, and it is sometimes described as “collapsing”. However, the dollar has been weaker than the Euro forever, and has fallen 10% in 14 days. What, exactly, is worse than “collapsing”?

Bigurn on September 16, 2012 at 2:14 PM

With QE3 and all, can’t Hot Air afford better trolls?

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Trolls are, by definition, pretty much low-rent.

trigon on September 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

You would prefer the leftards at Politico, maybe?

No thanks! I’ll keep the ones we got. They’re a few notches above.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 2:14 PM

It’s time for Hollywood to make a conservative film. I’m thinking “Save us Private Ryan”. Who’s with me?

Scarbarian on September 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM

People here in HA are blind from the incompetence of RnR campaign.

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM

So says the “shriners”!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM

People here in HA are blind from the incompetence of RnR campaign.

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Um, no we ain’t.

It’s unfortunately the only thing we got to work with.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I think some conservatives see that as a bit too Ron Paul-ish. Personally, I’m all for it.

I also think the Romney should be running against the TBTF banks – no more bailouts.

GCM on September 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

That’s one idea of the ol’ stoner I wouldn’t mind accepted as Gospel or, failing that, as party of the GOP platform.

Romney is bankrolled by TBTF banks. Running against them would not only be suicidal but also ruin many people with (R) after their names down the ticket who suck off the same cock teat.

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Blah, blah, blah. Not an original thought in that tiny thing you call a cranium. Zzzzzz.

CW on September 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Don’t worry, astonerri. You’ll get the last laugh when RnR crumbles by November.

TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Well thats the GOPs problem, always has been.

Cut taxes and never cut spending. Fight wars, never raise taxes. If not taxes, then raid entitlements under cover.

The dems just want to spend money and raise taxes but will still spend more and more.

Bith parties lead to the same conclusion. Debt crisis and a damaged country.

Depressing.

rickyricardo on September 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM

The Fed is not beyond politics anymore. It has shown itself to be highly political with this move. No economist not named Krugman could possibly think this is will help anything in the long term, but pumping up short term numbers or staving off the cliff helps Obama and thats the Fed Chairman’s only goal since his job is at stake and he knows it.

This is a disaster for the ordinary American. Gas and food prices are going to rise even more. Inflation cant be held back much longer while printing empty dollars every single month in perpetuity.

If the American public understood the consequences of this irresponsible policy they would be enraged. It is literally screwing the average Joe for short term cheap political benefits.

Romney needs to try to get this across to the voters. I know its wonky and not a easy thing to do, but there has to be a way to express the absolute peril the middle class faces with the inevitable inflation explosion.

Its ironic that one of the only things missing from Obama completing the transformation to Jimmy Carter II is high inflation, and it seems he is trying his best to create it.

What a friggin disaster in every possible facet of the job, this President has been.

alecj on September 16, 2012 at 2:17 PM

I’m thinking “Save us Private Ryan”.

Scarbarian on September 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I was thinking ‘Saving Irene Ryan’.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Bigurn on September 16, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Being completely dependent on the United States for 2/3rds of your trade and 9/10ths of your defense when the U.S. has minor problems of its own that need its attention.

thatsafactjack on September 16, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Jump on the Obie train..There are seats availiable!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 16, 2012 at 2:09 PM

I’m not joining any train right now. They are both headed off the cliff in short order. The fact that the only attack you have is to associate me with Obama is very telling about how little your side has on ideas. You should really try and argue with facts and ideas instead of personal attacks.

They are not buying our votes with our own money. Romney will not be doing it either. They are in fact buying our votes with the enslavement of our children to a debt they will not be able to pay off with no benefit having been given in return. It is not like we are fighting Nazis in Germany or the USSR all over the world. We are giving long vacations to people of a certain age and forward. How does that help the future generations?

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:18 PM

The Bernanke is a brazen hack.

petefrt on September 16, 2012 at 2:20 PM

They are both headed off the cliff in short order.

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:18 PM

That they are.

But as I’ve always said, just slow it down long enough for me to kick the bucket. Then the Bayams and the urban defeatists, and the rest of the HA ‘intelligensia’ can have the dump.

Lanceman on September 16, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Your disdain of Palin makes you think like the rest of the Mittbots.
TheAlamos on September 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM

My what? I have no disdain for Palin. What the hell are you talking about? I would have happily voted for her in the primaries, but she didn’t run. I’m sorry she didn’t. But she didn’t. Now I’d like Romney to win against Obama.

Go ahead and read through everything I’ve ever wrote on this site, you won’t find a single negative word about Palin. I like when her ideas are reiterated by Ryan and Romney. You should too.

happytobehere on September 16, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Paul Ryan’s roadmap (to the future enslavement of our children) is nothing but a bailout of the socialist policies that plague our nation with over spending and vote buying. The over spending will not stop and neither will the vote buying. Instead of vote buying by increasin

True, but Ryan understands the progressives have won the ideological war. We are a socialist democracy now. He is simply trying to establish a beach head for future moderately conservative policies in the distant future.

He knows the battle field he is operating on.

rickyricardo on September 16, 2012 at 2:22 PM

How does that help the future generations?

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:18 PM

I guess the opinion you’re opposing is “Since Palin and Ron Paul aren’t running, it is recommended to choose Romney as the lesser evil of the two incompetent big-government honchos.” My humble position on it is that if I am destined to go off a cliff, I’d rather not do it in handcuffs.

Archivarix on September 16, 2012 at 2:23 PM

The price of gas today would probably connect a lot more.

Wethal on September 16, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Yes that is the most effective catalyst to finish Obama in these elections… Economy is bad, unemployment is bad, insane debt, a terrible foreign policy… and on top of that add skyrocketing gas prices and food prices… Even for those voters who are on the fence thinking if they want to give the welfare queens agitator another chance, the very high gas prices and food prices are going to eliminate any possibility of giving him another chance…

mnjg on September 16, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Blah, blah, blah. Not an original thought in that tiny thing you call a cranium. Zzzzzz.

CW on September 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

yeah, I do have original thoughts. The original ones of the founders of this nation. They knew not to tie the hands of future generations with unbearable debts for the pleasure of current votes. That is no longer the case with our current political crew.

They borrowed money to fight wars that needed to be won. They borrowed money to buy lands for us to expand into. Now we borrow money to pay for a never been a father old person’s Viagra and never been a mother old person’s vacation to Hawaii. Buying votes with other people’s children’s future work. What a great original thought your ideology has.

astonerii on September 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM

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