Rice: Benghazi attack was spontaneous; Libya: No, it wasn’t

posted at 12:01 pm on September 16, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

There seems to be lingering confusion about the nature of the attack on the Benghazi consulate that cost four Americans their lives, including the first US Ambassador killed in the line of duty since 1979, J. Christopher Stevens.  UN Ambassador Susan Rice insisted on Fox News Sunday that the attack on the consulate on the 11th anniversary of 9/11 was a spontaneous demonstration that just “spun out of control.”  Rice also doubled down on the administration’s claim that the violence is all about the video:

WALLACE:  This week, there have been anti-American protests in two dozen countries across the Islamic world.Tthe White House says it has nothing to do with the president’s policies. Let’s watch.

JAY CARNEY:  This is not a case of protests directed at the United States writ large or at U.S. policy. This is in response to a video that is offensive.

WALLACE: You don’t really believe that?

AMB. RICE: Chris, absolutely I believe that. Because, in fact, it is the case. We had the evolution of the Arab Spring over the last many months but what sparked the recent violence was the airing on the Internet of a very hateful very offensive video that has offended many people around the world. Now, our strong view is that there is no excuse for violence. It is reprehensible and never justified. But in fact there have been those in various parts of the world who have reacted with violence. Their governments have increasingly and effectively responded and protected our facilities and condemned the violence and this outrageous response to what is an offensive video. But there is no question what we have seen in the past with things like Satanic Verses and cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad there have been such things that have sparked outrage and anger and this has been the proximate cause.

WALLACE: It may have sparked it but you critics say that the outpouring of outrage against the U.S. has everything to do with the U.S. policies. That we are disengaging from that part of the world that we pulled out of Iraq, we are are pulling out of Afghanistan, that Iran is continuing on with its nuclear program and they say our critics is that our allies no longer trust us and our enemies no longer fear us.

AMB. RICE:  Well, Chris, that is just false. Le’s be plain. Our partners and allies value voters responded effectively and promptly when we have asked them to protect our facilities and our people.

National Journal picks up on Rice’s flat-out insistence later in the interview with Chris Wallace that the Benghazi attack had no element of premeditation or planning:

Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, maintained on Sunday that the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was not planned by terrorist groups. She said the attack spun out of protests, which were sparked by an anti-Islamic video produced in the U.S.

“This was not a pre-planned, pre-meditated attack,” she said on Fox News Sunday. “What happened initially was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent. People with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons—which, unfortunately, are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya—and that then spun out of control.”

Rice told Jake Tapper on ABC’s This Week that the US response was not impotent, and again insisted that the attacks were spontaneous:

“We’re not impotent,were not even less popular to challenge that assessment” said Rice. ” What happened this week in Cairo, in Benghazi and many other parts of the region was a result, a direct result, of a heinous and offensive video that was widely disseminated, that the U.S. government had nothing to do with, which we have made clear is reprehensible and disgusting.” …

“Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” Rice told me this morning on “This Week.” …

“We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to – or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo,” Rice said. “And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons… And it then evolved from there.”

That comes as news to the Libyan government, which has now arrested 50 people in connection to the murders and the attack on the consulate.  Libyan President Mohamed Magariaf told CBS’ Face the Nation that the attack was planned for months by people who had infiltrated Libya from other nations specifically for the attack:

About 50 arrests have been made in connection with the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi in which the American Ambassador and three other consulate employees were killed, and some of the suspects involved are from outside the country, Libya’s president told CBS News.

In an interview for “Face the Nation” Sunday, President Mohamed Magariaf also said that evidence “leaves us with no doubt” that the attack was pre-planned.

“It was planned, definitely, it was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago, and they were planning this criminal act since their arrival,” he told Bob Schieffer.

So who to believe?  Magariaf’s statement is more against his interests, at least on the surface.  He’d have some benefit from the argument that the consulate got sacked in a spontaneous eruption of anger, because it would let his security forces off the hook for missing the extensive plot that Magariaf now asserts was in place.  It could also be a ploy to crack down on radial Islamist networks in the eastern part of Libya, which otherwise might be difficult for the weak central government to undertake, but an admission of weakness in the first place might not be in Tripoli’s best interests.  Also, it’s possible that Magariaf might be right about the plot and wrong about the plotters, or at least not entirely forthcoming, if the Libyan security forces have been penetrated by the radicals, but that still means Rice’s explanation is entirely wrong.

Fortunately, Rep. Mike Rogers, who chairs the House Intelligence Committee,  points out a few facts that support Magariaf’s contention and refute Rice’s:

However, Rep. Mike Rogers, the House Intelligence Committee chairman, said the evidence pointed in the other direction, citing the style and coordination of the attack.

“I think it’s too early to make that conclusion,” Rogers said on the same show [as Rice]. “The way that the attack took place, I have serious questions. It seemed to be a military-style, coordinated. They had indirect fire coordinated with direct fire, rocket attacks. They were able to launch two different separate attacks on locations there near the consulate and they repelled a fairly significant Libyan force that came to rescue the embassy.”

The betrayal of the supposedly “safe house” also tends to support Magariaf’s assertion.  An angry mob wouldn’t have organized well enough for that kind of pursuit and intelligence, unless the Libyan security forces in the know simply and “spontaneously” decided to throw in with the mob, which is possible but pretty unlikely.  The coordination and purposeful strategy in play shows premeditation and planning, and that means it’s not just an angry mob that spontaneously “spun out of control.”

Maybe someone should ask the State Department to explain the difference in conclusions.  Oh, that’s right, that part of the US government has declared itself immune from public scrutiny.  Bummer.  Because if this attack wasn’t the “spontaneous” event that “spun out of control” that Rice insists it was, then State and the White House have a lot to answer for on their preparations and security decisions for the anniversary of 9/11 in a part of Libya well known to be haven to radical Islamist terror networks — including al-Qaeda.


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I live in California and am about as anti-Police as you can get, but this honestly is a big fat nothing burger.

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

O_o

Umm, why?

hawkdriver on September 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Let’s say it was spontaneous. If those savages are willing to storm embassies, attack Marine bases, and murder ambassadors over a MOVIE, then maybe it’s time the administration geniuses started figuring out that other events might set the savages off too, and prepare accordingly.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM

This is not just about someone with bad information. This is about a systemic lie bubble around this POTUS to protect him from criticism late in an election cycle. All Hail the Messiah!

d1carter on September 16, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Yep, it’s the Get Smart cone of silence, Obama style.

TxAnn56 on September 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Outright lies.

WisCon on September 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM

I would like to have seen the actual number of viewings of the Youtube video before the riots and attacks took place. 3? 30? 3million?

Qzsusy on September 16, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Before Sept.11, the video clip had just under 55,000 views (after having been posted for +/- a year).
On Sept.13, it had gotten 1.25million views.

Solaratov on September 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM

This debacle is Fast & Furious, Part 2, the Next Day, the Sequel. Whereas the 2nd amendment was the target of the first “manufactured crises” the target of this one is clearly the 1st. How else to explain the apology of our embassy in Cairo (which was so roundly and correctly criticized, and not just by Romney)?

The admin I think helped “community organize” the “spontanteous demonstrations” via the faux controversy of this stupid film — created, as the Smoking Gun now claims, by *a federal snitch*! Unbeknownst to them (I hope), Al Qaeda had already planned to use 9/11 to murder our ambassador as revenge for the killing of their #2 guy. Quite accidentally (I hope), they provided perfect cover for the killers.

What started out as a “community organization” event to make us embarrassed over free speech on the anniversary of 9/11 became a humiliating demonstration of everything that’s wrong with our new policy in the ME. Now they need that pretext — the film — as a fig leaf. But it doesn’t fit. The shame is too big to be hidden now by an obviously false pretense.

bobcalco on September 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Lybia, the new ‘friend’ is at odds with the stupid Obama administration.

May Obama, Hillary and Rice go to Hades, for stupidity alone.

My, how the world “loves us now”.

Barack Hussein Obama, say it 1001 times, fools.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Maybe someone should ask the State Department to explain the difference in conclusions…
posted at 12:01 pm on September 16, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Que the New Secretary of Explainin’ Stuff : Bill Clinton

workingclass artist on September 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Too much truth coming out now from too many different sources for them to keep up this fairy tale much longer.

I have a feeling a reservation in Ambassador Susan Rice’s name has already been made under the bus.

Flora Duh on September 16, 2012 at 12:42 PM

“These attacks are spontaneous” is the excuse manufactured by the Obozo administration, the formula now instructs them to repeat, repeat, repeat.

WestTexasBirdDog on September 16, 2012 at 12:43 PM

listens2glenn on September 16, 2012 at 12:28 PM

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I knew what you meant, I just took the opportunity to put the money lines out there. If the media won’t ask her about it, he may as well not have said it.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2012 at 12:30 PM

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Are you implying something’s wrong with the journalist ? ( GASP )

listens2glenn on September 16, 2012 at 12:43 PM

JPeterman on September 16, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I don’t know, it is a double edge sword. They don’t want to be seen treating him differently and does his presence really significantly up the danger for others? They lost six Harriers and we lost two Marines, that’s a lot of damage from a small group. I guess they saw the video on You Tube.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2012 at 12:43 PM

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I guess we will just have to have a difference of opinion on this then. After Fast and Furious, and considering the lengths the feds have gone to in an effort to put this movie producer in position as fall guy, I’m not about to believe the tripe being issued from on high.

I’m done trusting these people.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Que the New Secretary of Explainin’ Stuff : Bill Clinton

workingclass artist on September 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM

THAT is the most delicious part of the politics of this story. At any other time, barack would have slammed Shrillery under those bus wheels faster than you can say “No 2016 campaign for you!” but the only reason he isn’t losing badly right now is because of Billy Jeff. Oh, what to do, what to do…

Rational Thought on September 16, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Let’s say it was spontaneous. If those savages are willing to storm embassies, attack Marine bases, and murder ambassadors over a MOVIE, then maybe it’s time the administration geniuses started figuring out that other events might set the savages off too, and prepare accordingly.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Ya mean like maybe the Obama Killed Osama movie, due to be released next month IIRC?

Flora Duh on September 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

The only thing missing from Rice is…


“… my people.”

Seven Percent Solution on September 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

I wonder if anyone associated with the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the State Dept and was able to telegraph the ambassador’s whereabouts…

Akzed on September 16, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Someone on the inside gave up their position, so I am guessing that the Libyan security detail with them were involved. The “unruly mob that just so happened to be toting RPGs and automatic rifles” that day knew where to find our staff, even when they were taken to a safe house.

Philly on September 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Bizarro World

jnelchef on September 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Let’s say it was spontaneous. If those savages are willing to storm embassies, attack Marine bases, and murder ambassadors over a MOVIE, then maybe it’s time the administration geniuses started figuring out that other events might set the savages off too, and prepare accordingly.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Okay, first plane flies down the muslim street dropping little American flags and faulty lighters. koranimals try to light said flags with faulty lighters and cry out in despair. Second plane napalms the street in attempt to help the poor koranimals burn said flags. “We’re just trying to help!”

VegasRick on September 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Every thing and anything to protect Pantload…

… I have this sick feeling in my stomach that there are many people walking around alive today that won’t be in the coming months.

Seven Percent Solution on September 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM

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I “feel” you. : (

listens2glenn on September 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

I wonder if anyone associated with the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the State Dept and was able to telegraph the ambassador’s whereabouts…

Akzed on September 16, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Huma from the Umma?

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I live in California and am about as anti-Police as you can get, but this honestly is a big fat nothing burger.

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

O_o

Umm, why?

hawkdriver on September 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Have you ever been to California? The majority of cops here suffer from God delusions. We have the most abusive and intrusive police in the nation. Plus getting arrested and having the car I had just bought impounded because the cop didn’t think I belonged in a Corvette and then having the judge tell me, tough shit, pay the fines didn’t help. (yea, the car I bought three days earlier didn’t have a front license plate on it, for gods sake, 90 percent of the Corvettes in California don’t have a front plate on them)

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I don’t know if the perps were the Muslim Brotherhood, but it looks like an inside job.

Philly on September 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

This entire administration talks to us like we are 5 years old.

kam582 on September 16, 2012 at 12:32 PM

C’mon. This is the same administration that announced its withdrawal date from Afghanistan the same day it announced the surge. So they may not be lying, they really just might be that stupid.

ProfessorMiao on September 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

“The security personnel that the State Department thought were required were in place,” Rice told ABC’s Jake Tapper.

This is incriminating evindence, in front of your eyes.

How is it that fools rule the land?

Because in the majority fools inhabit the land.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM

I think “folks” = my people when mouthed by Rice et al

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Shouldn’t somebody higher up in the White House or State Dept. be resigning because of this?

Multiple American embassies overrun by Islamists on the anniversary of 9/11, an ambassador killed, al Queda flags flying high over the embassies and all the Obama administration can do is sputter out stonewalling untruths???

albill on September 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Of course, none of this happened because Obama/Biden have been spiking the football about killing Osama.

That is not why they have been yelling “Obama, Obama, we are all Osama”?

Barred on September 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM

This entire administration talks to us like we are 5 years old.

kam582 on September 16, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Only because we let them.

Media, you suffocate first, from what you consume, Obama’s sh*t. It’s not Beluga caviar, morons. May you all be destroyed.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 12:48 PM

FDR: “The Pearl Harbor events were caused by Clark Gable saying the ‘damn’ in Gone with the Wind. Mr. Gable has been arrested. Ships are under repair.”

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Shocker, another lie out of this administration.

After today, the MSM media will clearly never talk about this again. It will be back to the war on women..

milcus on September 16, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Suuuure, lady. Folks over there have RPGs hanging over their fireplaces, just awaiting the next protest ///

Sekhmet on September 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

I’m surprised dws and cutter wasn’t out today on the talk shows spewing the same lies rice is doing?
L

letget on September 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

And especially ground-freaking-zero of “Arab-freaking-Spring”. WTFreaking?

hawkdriver on September 16, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Help Wanted–Embassy Ambassadors: No protection/security provided. Applicants must have strong desire to attract suicide missions and jihadi lunatics that can spontaneously bring about end of life experiences. See WhiteHouse.gov/shortadventures for more information.

Rovin on September 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

“The security personnel that the State Department thought were required were in place,” Rice told ABC’s Jake Tapper.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Dem Civil War.

IOW, if anything happened, it was Hillary’s fault.

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Bizarro World

jnelchef on September 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Kinda like one of those Star Trek parallel universe episodes where we wait for Kirk & Spock to solve us back to where we belong…only this aint’ Teevee even though Obama plays it like it is.

Bread & Circuses

workingclass artist on September 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Susan Rice embarrassed herself twice today:

First, by insisting that the Libya debacle was caused by a film which nobody in the mideast could have actually viewed, and by being directly contradicted by Libyans who were actually on the scene and officials who warned the embassy 3 days ago.

Second, by lowering herself to appear with Chris Matthews.

landlines on September 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Philly on September 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM

1. A mob coordinates nothing.
2. Even the FSA which is supposed to be as organized as a rebel force can get, isn’t even that organized.
3. You do have to be organized to effectively integrate small arms and special weapons.

hawkdriver on September 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM

I don’t know, it is a double edge sword. They don’t want to be seen treating him differently and does his presence really significantly up the danger for others? They lost six Harriers and we lost two Marines, that’s a lot of damage from a small group. I guess they saw the video on You Tube.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2012 at 12:43 PM

They sent him back over there as punishment for being a bad boy in LasVegas and getting caught.

JPeterman on September 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I guess we will just have to have a difference of opinion on this then. After Fast and Furious, and considering the lengths the feds have gone to in an effort to put this movie producer in position as fall guy, I’m not about to believe the tripe being issued from on high.

I’m done trusting these people.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 12:43 PM

ROTFLMAO… Oh don’t misunderstand me, I do not trust the Fed’s or especially the California Police. But I do live here, and I do know how things work here. The Fed’s are definitely trying to paint him as the fall guy, but the very last thing the cops here in California want is another Rodney King styled riot over this guy or him ending up murdered here because the Fifth Column Treasonous Media told every last Muslim on earth exactly where he lived.

You can pretty much bet that the California Attorney General put this guy on an airplane out of California just as fast as he could arrange a ticket.

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

first they coat themselves in the blood of other americans and now they roll around in it cynically and selfishly to further their own personal ambitions.

they are no better than the depraved filth that planned and committed the murders in the first place. apologists and cheerleaders for islamic hate criminals- intolerant, non-inclusive, women and gay hating mass murderers.

and doubling down on blaming the victims.and none of this mendacious dreck explains why there wasn’t adequate security for an american embassy, technically american sovereign soil, in a turbulent and violence soaked country or why someone who was ‘part of the spontaneous mob’ knew ahead of time where the safe house was? it has all the signs of an inside job- planned, funded and with a mole.

under sharia law in america, how many women would ever be made a UN ambassador-or appear in public, on the air not in a potato sack? stupid girl, just like your dear leader.

mittens on September 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Liar, liar the Middle East is on fire.

SouthernGent on September 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

You were treated badly but the possible identification of you and where you live is hardly likely to cause death. They could have done all sorts of things to talk to this man without bringing this kind of attention to him and his neighborhood. Can you just imagine someone dying over this stupid video? Remember Theo Van Gogh.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Shouldn’t somebody higher up in the White House or State Dept. be resigning because of this?

Multiple American embassies overrun by Islamists on the anniversary of 9/11, an ambassador killed, al Queda flags flying high over the embassies and all the Obama administration can do is sputter out stonewalling untruths???

albill on September 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM


Democrats
Marxists NEVER EVER resign.

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:54 PM

I’m surprised dws and cutter wasn’t out today on the talk shows spewing the same lies rice is doing?
L

letget on September 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

They use them for the “damn that Mitt Romney, look how he’s screwed up our foreign policy in the Middle East” flank of mission, Save Obama’s Azz At All Costs.

Flora Duh on September 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 12:48 PM

They are all in on it together. Tapper connected to Planned Parenthood, Gregory to Fannie Mae, Matthews to O’Neill and Steffi to Clinton. It’s all one big incestuous soup masquerading as impartial journalism. Isn’t Orszag married to a “journalist” too?

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Have you noticed that Mrs. Clinton now talks v e r y s l o w l y , as if we are too stupid to follow her remarks in a normal speaking voice.

esr1951 on September 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

She’s too heavily drugged to speak any faster. But she believes that she’s speaking at a normal rate.

The woman is obviously living on booze and sleeping pills; and probably some other stuff as well.
If she doesn’t get out of there soon, she’s going to have one hellacious breakdown.

Solaratov on September 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

The legacy media has to be given part of the blame for their irresponsible coverage of this POTUS and his minions…

d1carter on September 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

JPeterman on September 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

LOL! I hadn’t thought of that. I guess it will give him pause next time he considers showing his azz. They better make sure he stays alive or the conspiracies about his parentage will become a real problem for the family.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Can you just imagine someone dying over this stupid video? Remember Theo Van Gogh.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

people’s Exhibit #2

This is why women voters will flock to Obama if we keep yapping about this film.

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

She is a totally useless, obamao liar. Just spinning to protect the incompetent boob in the WH. Disgraceful that our ambassador to the UN is such a blatant troll and a reflection of the level of respect the rest of the world has for the USA.

ultracon on September 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

You formed your less than supportive opinion of our law enforcement officers over your lack of adherence to vehicular statutes?

hawkdriver on September 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I don’t recall seeing Ambassador Rice much before this, why is she being trotted out now?

Oh yeah, anyone criticizing this “Rice” will be dismissed as a RACIST!

WestTexasBirdDog on September 16, 2012 at 12:57 PM

This is why women voters will flock to Obama if we keep yapping about this film.

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Why do you assume that we women are such babies? A daughter of an Eagle is also an Eagle.

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

You were treated badly but the possible identification of you and where you live is hardly likely to cause death. They could have done all sorts of things to talk to this man without bringing this kind of attention to him and his neighborhood. Can you just imagine someone dying over this stupid video? Remember Theo Van Gogh.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

It was the Fifth Column Treasonous Media who followed him home and were broadcasting the location of his house around the world. It was the Fifth Column Treasonous Media who were standing in his front yard hoping to “Interview” him on his doorstep. That is what caused him to call the police and beg for police protection.

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

clnurnberg, indeed, and so much more.

May they all go to Hades.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Susan Rice can just meet with the media and tell them what to say, and they will go along, except for Chris Wallace.

The media is quick to tell us with a quick push poll that Barach Obama is favored by adults, children in VA schools where Michelle visits, liberals, and (illegal) immigrants nationally, as being good on foreign policy.

Fleuries on September 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

It is important to understand why Obama persists with this delusional tale. It is because he honestly believes that he is popular among Muslims. A sort of Earth messiah that transcends ordinary mortals and has an all-encompassing empathy.

pat on September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Have you ever been to California? The majority of cops here suffer from God delusions. We have the most abusive and intrusive police in the nation. Plus getting arrested and having the car I had just bought impounded because the cop didn’t think I belonged in a Corvette and then having the judge tell me, tough shit, pay the fines didn’t help. (yea, the car I bought three days earlier didn’t have a front license plate on it, for gods sake, 90 percent of the Corvettes in California don’t have a front plate on them)

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

You are pathetic. It is the law. I have a 2013 E550. The front plate looks ridiculous on it, but because it is the law, I have it on.

ericdijon on September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

ultracon on September 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM

She is a Rhodes scholar troll and therefore the media will lick her feet

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Akzed on September 16, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Hmmmm…the Muslim Sisterhood? Why is Huma still at State when if she has these ties?

Philly on September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Goebbels triple orgasmed in his coffin today. He’s been having a good time with the Obama admin. hoax.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

In a nutshell, one word describes the obama administration…clusterfark…….

crosshugger on September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Yeah, it was spontaneous, but the IT guy reported a security guard taking photos of the place hours before the “unplanned” event.

obladioblada on September 16, 2012 at 12:05 PM

I have read reports that workers in the consulate reported that they were under surveillance in the week before the attack. That makes sense, in fact it was probably several weeks. In ‘hours before’ you would have ‘umbrella men’ assembling their teams.

slickwillie2001 on September 16, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Philly on September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Because it would be islamophobic and un-American to question her loyalty. We are so screwed.

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Fareed is back at work!!! He’s here to tell us what his Islamic scholar dad would have done.

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Leading Protagonist and Apologist for an
Appeasing and Incompetent Foreign Policy
Insists That Disasterous Events of the Past Week
Were Due to Causes Other Than Her Administration’s
Appeasing and Incompetent Foreign Policy

ya2daup on September 16, 2012 at 1:01 PM

hawkdriver on September 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Thanks, Hawk.

Philly on September 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

They sent him back over there as punishment for being a bad boy in LasVegas and getting caught.

JPeterman on September 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Why do you need to denigrate a guy who is laying his life on the line alongside your troops in Afghanistan? He underwent 18 months of training as an Apache pilot and gunner so he could go back to Afghanistan. He won the award for first in his class as a gunner.

ProfessorMiao on September 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I fear,, it’s only going to get worse. Much worse.

There are simply too many moving pieces right now. Something has to give.

And when it does,,, look out.

Bought a lot of guns over the last 4 years. Always hoped I’d just shoot for fun. Still do. I wonder how much longer that can last.

I want my Government to stop lying to me and stealing my money.

Pretty much fed up with that.

wolly4321 on September 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 1:01 PM

NAturally they let him out of the kennell for this.

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

You formed your less than supportive opinion of our law enforcement officers over your lack of adherence to vehicular statutes?

hawkdriver on September 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Well there is that.

I once got pulled over for riding barefooted. Deputy says “Uh, do you know why I pulled you over?” and I said “You’re damn right I do.”

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Have you noticed that Mrs. Clinton now talks v e r y s l o w l y , as if we are too stupid to follow her remarks in a normal speaking voice.

esr1951 on September 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I have noticed and can’t explain it. Has she had a stroke?

slickwillie2001 on September 16, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Fareed is telling us that “the protests are a sign of progress”!!!

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 1:03 PM

ericdijon on September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Yeah, but don’t you think a ticket would be the appropriate action or a warning. Impounding the car is overkill. RODNEY KING!!!

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2012 at 1:03 PM

if anything happened, it was Hillary’s fault.

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Obama would throw her under the bus if they wouldn’t have a deal “Hillary, you cover for me now and I’ll be there 100% for you in 2016″.

They think the entire land is a kindergarten.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 1:03 PM

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

You formed your less than supportive opinion of our law enforcement officers over your lack of adherence to vehicular statutes?

hawkdriver on September 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Wrong answer dickwad. I did not fail to adhere to ANY vehicular statutes, all so called charges were dismissed because they were 100 percent bogus. I ended up having to pay for the impound and a damned insane fine California has that involves a “Restitution Fee” for ANY Vehicle impounded by the Police regardless of whether any vehicular infraction has been committed.

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Before Sept.11, the video clip had just under 55,000 views (after having been posted for +/- a year).
On Sept.13, it had gotten 1.25million views.

Solaratov on September 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM

I’d be curious as to how many people actually watched the entire video. It was so bad that if events had not occurred on Sept 11 I would have written it off as the amateur production it was and stopped after the first few moments.

CitizenEgg on September 16, 2012 at 1:04 PM

ProfessorMiao on September 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

And I think this devotion to colleagues makes him a better prospect for king than his big brother. I don’t care if he had fun in Vegas, it doesn’t DQ Obama.

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 1:04 PM

I have noticed and can’t explain it. Has she had a stroke?

slickwillie2001 on September 16, 2012 at 1:03 PM

My guess is that Hillary is speaking slowly so that she can be translated easily. I wouldn’t get too excited about it.

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 1:04 PM

So, what she’s saying is that it was a planned 911 attack.
Sounds like front page news to me, along with a full apology to Mitt Romney. CRICKETS CHIRPING

kregg on September 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Great news. That Obama Doctrine is working like a charm.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?ID=285277&R=R1

Philly on September 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Let’s say it was spontaneous. If those savages are willing to storm embassies, attack Marine bases, and murder ambassadors over a MOVIE, then maybe it’s time the administration geniuses started figuring out that other events might set the savages off too, and prepare accordingly.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM

We should all march on DC to insist that they prevent any release of “Zero Dark Thirty” !!!
Oh, there’s that First Amendment thang, right ???
Hey, there needs to be SOME WAY to corner them about this ‘incendiary’ video nonsense.
This upcoming movie is not even considered in all of their lying bluster !!
I guess they expect all of the Muslim countries to CELEBRATE O’s take-out of Osama, yes ??
Yeah, that’ll work !!
“we are ALL Osama’s Obama !!”

pambi on September 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Have you ever been to California? The majority of cops here suffer from God delusions. We have the most abusive and intrusive police in the nation. Plus getting arrested and having the car I had just bought impounded because the cop didn’t think I belonged in a Corvette and then having the judge tell me, tough shit, pay the fines didn’t help. (yea, the car I bought three days earlier didn’t have a front license plate on it, for gods sake, 90 percent of the Corvettes in California don’t have a front plate on them)

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

So you have something in common with Washermann!

DWS Luxury Vehicles

BTW, cops with god complexes are not peculiar to California. I wonder what came first, the delusion or the training program.

slickwillie2001 on September 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

You are pathetic. It is the law. I have a 2013 E550. The front plate looks ridiculous on it, but because it is the law, I have it on.

ericdijon on September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Go phuck yourself, in the State of California I have 10 days to put a front license plate on a car I have just purchased. Did you bother reading the part about I had had the car 3 days.

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Mika’s Commie Dad: “If we act unwisely, we can create a menace in the region”

So, we have the election game here. It will be Romney’s fault if he says something against Obama’s foreign policy. He could inflame the Arab Street.

It’s all about ginning up and scaring women voters.

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Of course it’s BS, but they don’t have to convince “us” or “the world” at all, they just need to convince the 3% or so die-engaged hand-wringers who don’t know who they’re voting for yet that it’s all good.

Kenosha Kid on September 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM

So you have something in common with Washermann!

DWS Luxury Vehicles

BTW, cops with god complexes are not peculiar to California. I wonder what came first, the delusion or the training program.

slickwillie2001 on September 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I have a Corvette and a BMW, big whoop. I like vehicles that handle and respond well.

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 1:09 PM

It’s all about ginning up and scaring women voters.

faraway on September 16, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Women would be happier with someone less wussy in the WH. Obama clearly can’t protect us. He doesn’t even understand the situation and makes excuses for the perps. Apparently our embassy was wearing a short skirt.

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Are they lying or are they idiots?

Is this part of a HILLARY COVER-UP, and will anyone, anyone, investigate or be curious in the ObamaMedia?

Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer Huma Abedin Weiner should has a LOT of INFLUENCE in this administration (and in Congress).

Paging anyone, anyone, anyone in the gop leadership that has the stones to pursue this.

PappyD61 on September 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Why do you need to denigrate a guy who is laying his life on the line alongside your troops in Afghanistan? He underwent 18 months of training as an Apache pilot and gunner so he could go back to Afghanistan. He won the award for first in his class as a gunner.

ProfessorMiao on September 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I am not denigrating him at all, just the opposite. They sent him back over there as a way to let the news die down about his behaviour in Vegas. The boy has been punished enough, he has a target on his back. They need to bring him home, now.

JPeterman on September 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM

pambi on September 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I’m thinking the movie gets quietly quashed, never to see the light of day.

Bishop on September 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Obviously there is a back-story we’re not getting because you can pay a $10 fine after showing proof of installing it and walk away. Impounds are usually a matter of felonious issues. It could be something as innocent as giving the officer just enough of a hard time over something as lame as a missing plate for the officer to feel threatened – then the car needs to be removed from the roadside.

ericdijon on September 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM

This is not just about someone with bad information. This is about a systemic lie bubble around this POTUS to protect him from criticism late in an election cycle. All Hail the Messiah!

d1carter on September 16, 2012 at 12:38 PM

The left knows it’s in deep doo-doo over the ME meltdown. Blaming the video is their way of deflecting the blame away from their own failed policies. They figure if they play it right, they can not only deflect blame away from Øbama, but also they can cast blame onto right wing Christians, the likes of which make incendiary videos like this, and “reinterpret” our First Amendment rights in the process.

Blaming the video is designed to manipulate public opinion about free speech like Fast-and-Furious was to manipulate opinion about gun control. It’s out of the same playbook.

petefrt on September 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Huma supporters in Congress.

Boehner, McCain, Lindsay Graham, who else on the gop side?

PappyD61 on September 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM

The stupid savages of the 7th century now believe this

An Iranian foundation has reportedly increased a bounty for the death of Salman Rushdie, saying that if the British writer had previously been killed for blasphemy an anti-Islam film currently enraging Muslims would never have been made.

And we, the fools, aid them in this darkness.

Welcome to Amerikkka, JPeterman, with sincere sympathies.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM

JPeterman on September 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM

The target also targets other servicemen.

clnurnberg on September 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Should have been in quotes

An Iranian foundation has reportedly increased a bounty for the death of Salman Rushdie, saying that if the British writer had previously been killed for blasphemy an anti-Islam film currently enraging Muslims would never have been made.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM

They need to bring him home, now.

JPeterman on September 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM

No, they need to respect his wishes (and make damned sure he is surrounded by competent skilled individuals) to do otherwise would be disgraceful.

SWalker on September 16, 2012 at 1:14 PM

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