House passes six-month spending bill to push budget past election

posted at 11:21 am on September 14, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

If you’re spoiling for a budget fight during the presidential election, you’re out of luck.  The House quietly passed a six-month extension to the current year’s spending, taking the budget battle into next year, with a new Congress and perhaps a new President left to deal with it.  The vote was overwhelmingly bipartisan, and included support from Republican VP nominee Paul Ryan:

The U.S. House of Representatives has approved a six-month stopgap government funding bill on a 329 to 91 vote, putting aside the partisan warfare of the past 18 months in bipartisan resolve to avoid a budget showdown ahead of the November election.

The Senate is expected to pass the same measure late next week, providing funding for agencies for the first six months of the fiscal year and avoiding any threat of a government shutdown when the year ends Sept. 30.

The drama with Thursday’s vote came less from the outcome of the vote than from the appearance of Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan, who chairs the House Budget Committee and came to the Capitol to cast a vote in favor of the measure.

His vote was intended to send a message to members of the raucous GOP freshman caucus that they should also sign off on a measure that will set a $1.047 trillion funding level for the first half of the year, the same figure enshrined in the deal to raise the nation’s debt ceiling last summer.

If you’re wondering whether this solves the “fiscal cliff,” well, let’s just say that we’re still left with a cliffhanger.  On a party-line vote, the House passed a separate measure to demand a plan from Obama on how to avoid the defense cuts of the sequestration, which will go nowhere in the Senate.  All of the other fiscal-cliff issues went entirely unaddressed, leaving them until after the November election for resolution by a lame-duck Congress.

Bloomberg’s editors cry foul, and wonders where the outrage is over another debt-ceiling hike:

Without muss or fuss, Congress just voted overwhelmingly to keep the federal spigot open for six more months. There were no shouting matches, no threats of a government shutdown, no hostage-takings. Even some Tea Party lawmakers approved the $1.047 trillion measure.

Contrast the smooth legislative action with the lunacy of last year’s debt-ceiling debate, when the U.S. came within days of defaulting on its IOUs. Standard & Poor’s downgraded the government’s credit rating. The recovery went into reverse as consumers delayed purchases and businesses hunkered down.

Much as we dislike recalling that madness, it’s worth looking back if only because it now seems so manufactured — or worse, economically reckless. If last summer’s fight was necessary to save the country from fiscal wrack and ruin, why is this fall’s continuing resolution, as the measure is called, not a threat to Western civilization? It even adds another $8 billion to the deficit and exceeds the House Republicans’ budget blueprint by $19 billion.

What about that debt-ceiling fight?  Bloomberg says this deal exposes it as just a political machination:

A year ago, Republicans cast the debt-ceiling fight as a principled economic response to unsustainable borrowing and the only way to avoid a Greek-like comeuppance at the hands of the bond market. In offering his budget in March, Representative Paul Ryan, now the party’s vice-presidential nominee, said government debt “continues to rise at a frightening pace, raising fears that a similar crisis may happen here.”

So can we assume that Republicans have now fixed the country’s debt problem? Not at all. In many ways, they did the opposite.

While this criticism is not entirely unfair, it also ignores some realities.  The same players are in place this year as last.  Would a fight now result in a breakthrough on spending, or would it increase uncertainty as Taxmageddon approaches?  Deficit and debt hawks had a better chance at winning a fight in a non-election year, and they still only have influence on one of the three loci of power in Washington; Democrats control the White House and Senate.

This fight will take more than a couple of months to hash out, and punting it into next year at least sets the stage for Congress to rationally address the upcoming fiscal cliff after the election.  Is that an optimal solution?  Hardly, but it doesn’t appear that there would be any other path to resolving the short-term issues without making the long-term issues even worse.


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Keep it simple.

“Two Party Evil Money Cult”

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 14, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Kick the can is such a productive and fun game to play!

Deano1952 on September 14, 2012 at 11:25 AM

We’ve been delaying the popping of this fiscal bubble for 5 years now, as shown by the $5 trillion increase in the national debt. TARP in 2008, stimulus in 2009, more borrowing, and then earlier this year, more papering over, pushing the collapse to January, 2013. As Obama said in 2006, what a failure in leadership.

Paul-Cincy on September 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM

I haven’t checked, but I’m willing to bet Ron Paul voted “No”.

JohnGalt23 on September 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM

The adults are in charge.

I’m off to buy a few pallets of smokes since my money is going to be worthless.

Bishop on September 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Yeah, Bloomberg, it’s all the Republicans’ fault. Blatant, partisan media. Not even an attempt at a shred of objective reporting.

/Free and open press my @$$.

AZfederalist on September 14, 2012 at 11:28 AM

“…taking the budget battle into next year, with a new Congress and perhaps a new President left to deal with it.”

Not unless Romney starts punching Obama square in the teeth on his complete failure! Stop sitting down to do puff piece interviews about how great Obama is and start kicking the liberal press and Obama in the balls!!

You wanted the nomination. You got it. You weren’t my first choice by any stretch, but I’ll vote for you. Get off your azz and start doing something!!

AubieJon on September 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I guess I understand the whole optics argument when it comes to the fall election, but it still makes me ill. It seems like the Republican mentality is that they know it’s a battle they will lose due to the media propaganda, so rather than fight, their motto is concede early and often.

preallocated on September 14, 2012 at 11:30 AM

But we are expected to beleive that the Republicans will change stripes after the election, because then we can really hold their feet to the fire by, threatening to, um, threatening to, um, ahhh um, we can, ah, um errr derp derp derp um ah.

It is not like the Republicans do not have cronies to reward or anything right? Right?

We can um, hold their feet to the fire by promissing to always vote straight ticket republican no matter how worthless they are.

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 11:30 AM

The first in what may be a series of “can kicks” to postpone the fiscal cliff and give themselves more time. The real action may come next year, between January – November 2013.

TouchdownBuddha on September 14, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Much as we dislike recalling that madness, it’s worth looking back if only because it now seems so manufactured — or worse, economically reckless.

Madness?

ElectricPhase on September 14, 2012 at 11:30 AM

What does Bloomberg have to say about Bernanke’s 40 billion a month printing press spree????

Crickets?

Rovin on September 14, 2012 at 11:30 AM

If anybody thinks the Democrats are going to be willing to pass a Republican budget once Republicans manage to haphazardly fall into possession of both houses of Congress, that person needs a mental health checkup. Democrats don’t like how Republicans make fun of them for not having a budget; they’ll make sure to prevent Republicans from passing a budget by any means necessary.

And the media will hammer that point home every day until 2016.

mintycrys on September 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Not unless Romney starts punching Obama square in the teeth on his complete failure!
AubieJon on September 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I think you may be asking gravity to reverse itself.

rrpjr on September 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Congress is so absolutely impotent, useless and broken that it will probably never be fixed, short of open revolution. My daughter would be a better representative than most of them, including the weeper of the house and senator stone-face.

ultracon on September 14, 2012 at 11:33 AM

What other choice do they have? Like Obama’s gonna budge at all? Like Harry Reid will pass an actual budget after 3 1/2 years? I don’t like kicking the can down the road, but right now the only hope of doing anything meaningful on spending is to do everything in power to get Mitt Romney elected President and the GOP in control of the Senate(and obviously retain the House). Then we don’t have to worry about cowtowing to Obama and Reid and their sycophants in the media.

Doughboy on September 14, 2012 at 11:33 AM

The fact is that the House Republicans know that if they take a principled stand now, the MSM will just demagogue the issue: “Grandma won’t get her SS check! Women and children will die in the street! Hungry will starve, millions will die, elevnty!11!, Rich will get richer!” all with the objective of influencing the election. Since low information voters are using the alphabet channel propaganda arm of the democrat party for their news, this would have an effect. As evidenced by the snark in the Bloomberg piece, there is no way the Republicans win that PR battle and the dems get to use the low information voters to win the election and really send us over the cliff. Best to hold off until after the election when the propaganda arm of the DNC really can’t do anything other than inflame the weak-minded.

AZfederalist on September 14, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Not a single effing red cent to any Republican candidate anymore, Paul Ryan including. I’ve outlived Soviets, and God willing I’ll outlast American socialism, too. Bullets will be confiscated anyway, so I’ll just stockpile food and basic clothing.

Archivarix on September 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

From what I heard on the radio this a.m., the aid to Egypt and Libya were tied into this and we are sending them billions. Has anyone else heard this?

NJ Red on September 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

91 Nays ?

betcha its those pesky Tea Party people thinking that uncontrolled spending is a bad thing – again.

Racists.

FlaMurph on September 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

A lot of posters here probably remember Tom “Concerned” Daschle, but the real master at legislative manipulation to embarrass Republicans and promote his party’s national ends was Senate majority leader George Mitchell (D-ME).

The GOP is badly in need of a George Mitchell. Someone who could frame the current budget and debt ceiling impasse as a failure of Presidential leadership, an impasse that will never be broken under the current leadership, and an impasse that, sadly, must wait for a more effective leader ever to be resolved (hint, hint). Then leave the thing hanging right up to the election!

Why on earth do Republicans always provide their opponents with so much political cover?

de rigueur on September 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

All these politicians, from both parties, care about is making sure the bottom doesn’t fall out until someone else is in office. Until then they will continue to milk the cow dry.

tommyboy on September 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

O/T: Bomb threats at University of Texas and North Dakota State University. Threats came from ‘man w/middle eastern accent’.

John_Locke on September 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Does this budget include our military? If so, will they still have their budget cut? We need all the help for our military we can get, IMO!
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letget on September 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Our government is broke, and the FED is making you dollar worthless. I’m having a hard time today thinking of a way for America to survive our fiscal and monetary problems. I hope some state or States begin to assert leadership for their citizens because lawlessness and shortsightedness has taken over DC.

Weight of Glory on September 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Threats came from ‘man w/middle eastern accent’.

John_Locke on September 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Not sure, but I’m pretty sure that statement is racist. /s

… and an insult to islam. /s

AZfederalist on September 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

It’s 4th and 35 from our own 2 yard line. Punt!!!

dddave on September 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Seems both teams aren’t so sure the whole brinksmanship approach is all that strong with the voters after all.

Boomer_Sooner on September 14, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Think of the economic and world news over just the past 96 hours.

We are watching our “President” and our “leaders” drive this nation over a cliff!

AubieJon on September 14, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Below are the real fiscal conservatives. They actually voted for less spending. The rest of the GOP just went along with Obama’$ game.

Republican nays:
Justin Amash (MI)
Tom McClintock (CA)
Timothy Johnson (IL)
Walter Jones (NC)
Ron Paul (TX)
Chris Gibson (NY)
Jimmy Duncan (TN)

Republicans who didn’t vote:
Paul Ryan (WI)
Paul Broun (GA)
Walter Herger (CA)
Todd Akin (MO)
Donald Young (AK)

If your Rep claims to be a “conservative” and he’s voting for more spending well I’m sorry…he is a liar.

MoreLiberty on September 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Wow. GOP caved again. What a surprise.

bgibbs1000 on September 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Hey by the way….where is Tax Cheat Geithner??? Was he exiled somewhere….havent heard from him in awhile.

malkinmania on September 14, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Of course Paul Ryan didn’t have the balls to vote no on this spending. he simply…like Senator Obama, didn’t show up.

MoreLiberty on September 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Wow. GOP caved again. What a surprise.

bgibbs1000 on September 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM

They will be rock solid after the vote. Then we have power over them to hold their feet to the fire. I just am lost as to what that power it. Any ideas?

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Bloomberg is 100% right Ed.

This is all a game to these idiots who just keep playing the public for fools.

Vote the ALL out. It’s time for a grassroots movement in this country to take back these public positions which have just been turned into pathways to wealth by these selfish pigs.

KMC1 on September 14, 2012 at 11:44 AM

So, if a bunch of hooligans break things, burn s*** and kill people in the name of a religion, isn’t it an insult to that religion?

ElectricPhase on September 14, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Seems both teams aren’t so sure the whole brinksmanship approach is all that strong with the voters after all.

Boomer_Sooner on September 14, 2012 at 11:39 AM

How would our side know? We’ve never tried it.

de rigueur on September 14, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Whoops wrong thread.

ElectricPhase on September 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM

the only hope of doing anything meaningful on spending is to do everything in power to get Mitt Romney elected President and the GOP in control of the Senate(and obviously retain the House).
Doughboy on September 14, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Because we all know that spending was totally under control and kept in check when Bush had Republicans in control of both houses of congress.

abobo on September 14, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Because we all know that spending was totally under control and kept in check when Bush had Republicans in control of both houses of congress.

abobo on September 14, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Think it’s happening with Obama in power?

changer1701 on September 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM

They will be rock solid after the vote. Then we have power over them to hold their feet to the fire. I just am lost as to what that power it. Any ideas?

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

LOL…oh man that’s funny. Once again though, Ron paul is right.

MoreLiberty on September 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Ot: Univ Tx just evacuated ALL buildings, bomb threat, male with Middle-Eastern dialect making the call…per my kid who is a student…

Hey, but Blightbringer is hanging with Beyonce and JayZee, no worries…

hillsoftx on September 14, 2012 at 11:48 AM

The GOP should have let the government be shut down last year (a blessed non-election year) instead of putting together a debt deal that hasn’t done squat about the debt.

Bitter Clinger on September 14, 2012 at 11:48 AM

If the Republicans had any leadership, this wouldn’t happen. The freshmen can only do so much, without the necessary help from their leadership team, such as it is. McConnell is probably a bigger burden than Boehner because Boehner can’t do much without support from the Senate and McConnell will throw the House under the bus faster than Reid would his Democrats.

bflat879 on September 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Anyone watching Ryan on Fox speaking in Washington DC? Heckler is there and is trying to interrupt. Crowd shouts USA,USA.

esr1951 on September 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM

We’ve never tried it.

de rigueur on September 14, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Better qualify that. Newt tried it against Clinton. With no Plan B.

de rigueur on September 14, 2012 at 11:56 AM

What does Bloomberg have to say about Bernanke’s 40 billion a month printing press spree????

Crickets?

Rovin on September 14, 2012 at 11:30 AM

It enthusiastically approves of it –

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-13/with-qe3-we-all-win-poor-and-rich-alike.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-12/bernanke-should-do-the-right-thing-and-not-say-he-s-sorry.html

rickv404 on September 14, 2012 at 11:57 AM

F**k the Dems. F**k the GOP. Dissolve Congress, prevent anyone who has served more than two terms from running again, and start fresh.

MadisonConservative on September 14, 2012 at 11:57 AM

They will be rock solid after the vote. Then we have power over them to hold their feet to the fire. I just am lost as to what that power it. Any ideas?

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Do you not remember Harriet Miers?

Do you know why you don’t remember her? Because conservatives rose up, when it was appropriate, and squeezed the disingenuous Bush Administration until it squealed. And thus she was not appointed to the SCOTUS, where you certainly would remember her, and likely not fondly.

JohnGalt23 on September 14, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Call me Pollyanna, but I think Congress might be banking on getting more Republicans into the Senate, thus upending Harry Reid. With more Republicans, and Mitt Romney as president, something might be done about a real budget at last, because it sure won’t be as long as that wizened old gnome is in charge.

RebeccaH on September 14, 2012 at 11:59 AM

The fraud of the more equal Pigs will end, when the economy collapses. Until then, it will be business as usual.

I guess that this is kinda like the Second Coming:

Matthew 24:

[37] But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

[38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

[39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 14, 2012 at 12:00 PM

LOL…you jack-a-lopes that think Rombama is actually going to slow or stop the endless debt and spending are fooling yourselves. What we just saw, is the GOP controlled House of Representatives raise the debt ceiling…again.

Romney, like the majority of Congress, is no different than Obama. Ron paul was right once again.

MoreLiberty on September 14, 2012 at 12:00 PM

We’ve never tried it.

de rigueur on September 14, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Better qualify that. Newt tried it against Clinton. With no Plan B.

de rigueur on September 14, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Newt got backstabbed by fellow republicans in that fight. He had no choice but to back down when his own party refused to follow though. If he would have followed though, it likely would have been extremely popular. But having taken it to the brink and then backing down, it demoralized conservatives and empowered progressives. All around a bad thing. I was there watching fervently in those days… Much like I did from reagan onwards.

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 12:01 PM

If the Republicans had any leadership, this wouldn’t happen. The freshmen can only do so much, without the necessary help from their leadership team, such as it is. McConnell is probably a bigger burden than Boehner because Boehner can’t do much without support from the Senate and McConnell will throw the House under the bus faster than Reid would his Democrats.

bflat879 on September 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM

…true!…there is no substance to either McConnell or Boehner…but Boehner is even more show…and no go!

KOOLAID2 on September 14, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Newt got backstabbed by fellow republicans in that fight. He had no choice but to back down when his own party refused to follow though. If he would have followed though, it likely would have been extremely popular. But having taken it to the brink and then backing down, it demoralized conservatives and empowered progressives. All around a bad thing. I was there watching fervently in those days… Much like I did from reagan onwards.

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 12:01 PM

oh oh! I haven’t had any booze for days but I must be drunk!…you’re right!

KOOLAID2 on September 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Do you not remember Harriet Miers?

Do you know why you don’t remember her? Because conservatives rose up, when it was appropriate, and squeezed the disingenuous Bush Administration until it squealed. And thus she was not appointed to the SCOTUS, where you certainly would remember her, and likely not fondly.

JohnGalt23 on September 14, 2012 at 11:59 AM

The problem is the she was not worth the effort for Bush. He had the Democrats and the Republicans fighting, and it is not like the Senate Republicans were wanting to put her on the bench to start with. She started with a stench and ended in a wimper.

I remember pushing to stop TARP, something far more important in my opinion. I do not see any results. I remember pushing pretty hard on the budget deal in 2011 after we gave the R’s power, did not get anything at all. I remember MONTHS not just a few days of the R’s fighting me on shamnesty. I also remember Robert’s was supposed to be a rock solid vote for stopping progressive slide in the court. I always did think his smile was the kind you see on people too concerned with what other people think… But I was totally assured of his conservativeness.

Now I am told that Ryan is a total conservative, I do not even see it in his talks, and certainly not his votes. I am told that Romney whois totally proud of Romneycare is going to replace Obamacare with something conservative? LOL right!

Nope, the feet held to the fire starts here, in the pre vote arena. If you cannot get them to give you solid promises that are not easily weasled out of, then you are pretty much guaranteed they will not do what you want once in office.

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM

“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”
Vladimir Lenin

These are the policies that Obama, the democrat party, and Bernake have put in place for the expressed goal of communist/collectivist revolution.

How do they achieve their goals?

“The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.”
Vladimir Lenin

The lessons of Lenin have been learned well by the leftists in our country.

jukin3 on September 14, 2012 at 12:20 PM

This is exactly the kind of leadership you can expect in a Romeny Administration: Kick the can down the road.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

newtopia on September 14, 2012 at 12:22 PM

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astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM

100% agree. The GOP has to learn that they must be real conservatives. Sorry but I’m not voting for Rombama or Obamaney. They are the same. You can’t out liberal a liberal. I’m voting for an actual individual that has a track record of supporting fiscal responsibility and individual liberty. That would be Gary Johnson.

MoreLiberty on September 14, 2012 at 12:23 PM

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 12:01 PM

I’d agree with that. And the moral is: Don’t go to the brink unless you’re not going to blink. Which, sadly, is why the GOP simply never takes anything from push to shove, they’re totally blinkered.

de rigueur on September 14, 2012 at 12:25 PM

AS much as it sucks it does take it off the table as a target for the MSM to fling poo at and cry about.

Mimzey on September 14, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Nope, the feet held to the fire starts here, in the pre vote arena. If you cannot get them to give you solid promises that are not easily weasled out of, then you are pretty much guaranteed they will not do what you want once in office.

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM

One more thing I remember. I remember betraying our nation by not pushing back on Bush from 2002 through 2005 because we thought he had enough on his plate fighting the War on Terror. We gave them a little opening and instead of concentrating on the War on Terror they spent their time with No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, Pushing for the 0 down loans for homes. It was a mistake. But in reality, we could send 50 million pairs of feet to Washington telling them no, but once they have our vote, they have the power for 2,4 or 6 years and there is not a damned thing we can do about it. Not even 300 million pairs of feet protesting in Washington could do anything to stop congress or the president from doing what it choses to do. We no longer have standing on anything our government does, from ensuring our leaders meet the Constitutional requirements to hold their office, to whether something sold as a penalty, written as a penalty is an unconstitutional mandate or a constitutional tax. John McCain proves this point every 6 years. For 4 years after the vote he is a democrat in all but name, and then he suckers the rubes into seeing him as a conservative in the last 18 months of his term.

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Your party is decrepit, Boehner, and so are you.

The one good result of Obama’s reelection will be the convulsions that destroy the GOP. It cannot and will not survive. There is no way this party can survive the failure to defeat a radical Leftist who is objectively destroying the country. It is a failure too pathetic for defense, too annihilating for redemption. Good riddance, you cowards, you miserable, blind, arrogant elitist weaklings. Enjoy your “rule changes” in oblivion.

rrpjr on September 14, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Do you not remember Harriet Miers?

Do you know why you don’t remember her? Because conservatives rose up, when it was appropriate, and squeezed the disingenuous Bush Administration until it squealed. And thus she was not appointed to the SCOTUS, where you certainly would remember her, and likely not fondly.

JohnGalt23 on September 14, 2012 at 11:59 AM

And the potential-Myers was worse than the actual-Roberts in what way?

AesopFan on September 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM

plenty of money for Egypt and Libya included…

equanimous on September 14, 2012 at 12:43 PM

I do hope that they have the opportunity to cut off the foreign aid spigot to Egypt and Libya that is part of what was passed. There is no reason why we should be giving those animals a single penny in aid.

Happy Nomad on September 14, 2012 at 12:52 PM

The clock still shows some time left but the scoreboard makes it obvious that the game is over. Even with a roaring economy, growing out of a 16+ trillion dollar debt would be a tall order, we cant even come up with a minor deficit reduction plan let alone a ballanced budget or actual debt reduction. Instead of roaring, our economy will be suffocated with the hundreds of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities of Medicare/Medicade/Social Security/pensions. There are only two ways out of the debt hole we have dug, default or hyperinflation. Uncle Ben told us yesterday which way we are going to go.

DMartin on September 14, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Eunuchs from the left, to the right.

The approval of congress is still too high, until it reaches 0.

Schadenfreude on September 14, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Ok, me I did want a fight, to get Obama to pass a budget with Harry Reid, but I guess then they would say the economy was fixed.

You will have to vote for republicans in Nov. to send your message, and get spending cuts and a budget cuts.

You will have to vote for Ryan and Romney to save the choices on cuts to the Pentagon, Obama does not need the military anymore he has fixed the conflicts in the world and peace has come, I just heard it on Rush, so it must be so.

If you think the demagoguing in the media was ridiculous over Romney’s statement on appeasement at the embassy, the media had huge plans to blame Republicans for a government shut down if they would not fund Obama’s Unbudget.

Fleuries on September 14, 2012 at 1:11 PM

I think this means the voters are in charge. Wow, isn’t that exactly what Justice Roberts said a few months ago? When the electorate gives a mandate to one party or the other then these problems will be addressed.

Metanis on September 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM

We need the senate! While the ME burns and the msm is distracted with Mitt, the rnc should send Akin a big check so he can at least run ads and beat Claire don’t tax my plane McCaskil.

Kissmygrits on September 14, 2012 at 1:26 PM

rrpjr on September 14, 2012 at 12:34 PM

I sure hope your right.

I think Romney will win. He will then lead from the left and talk as if what he is doing is conservative. The media will scream how demonically conservative his progressive policies are, that is what they do. The generic American public will think they are getting conservative government, I would also argue most of the idiots on this website will dream they are getting conservative government even. The economy will pick up a bit due to Romney giving them a boost of confidence. Obama policies will get the credit, as Romney had not done much to that point. Then when the market starts to falter, Romney will reach into his bag of tricks and reward his crony capitalists with a stimuless of his own. Things will continue to get worse as the progressive policies labeled conservative fail as they always do, and conservatism will take a ride over the cliff along with Romney and the Republican party. The Democrats will be “proven” right and given a second chance to put another Obama into office in 2016 and if we still hold either house of the congress after 2014 I would be surprised. We are in what I term a whiplash electorate where the people are not happy and they will be throwing the bums out until they are happy. The beatings will continue until moral improves.

Today most Americans are concerned, not about getting a job, but, being able to stay on welfare for the rest of their lives. Whether it is unemployment insurance payments, disability, social security or some other federal government welfare policy, they want to be sure they are getting it. They are entitled to it!

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 1:55 PM

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With more time under socialism (Obama’s or Romney’s)
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Any questions?

astonerii on September 14, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Boehner is a pond scum career politician and a snake.

ultracon on September 14, 2012 at 6:21 PM

What The Effin, Effitty Eff!!! Boehner you spineless…BERGAFLICKAL!!

WyattsTorch on September 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Below are the real fiscal conservatives. They actually voted for less spending. The rest of the GOP just went along with Obama’$ game.

Republican nays:
Justin Amash (MI)
Tom McClintock (CA)
Timothy Johnson (IL)
Walter Jones (NC)
Ron Paul (TX)
Chris Gibson (NY)
Jimmy Duncan (TN)

Republicans who didn’t vote:
Paul Ryan (WI)
Paul Broun (GA)
Walter Herger (CA)
Todd Akin (MO)
Donald Young (AK)

If your Rep claims to be a “conservative” and he’s voting for more spending well I’m sorry…he is a liar.

MoreLiberty on September 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM

According to the U.S. House Roll call, Paul Ryan (WI) voted Aye. At least my Rep finally listened to his district and voted No [Chabot (OH)].

jackal40 on September 15, 2012 at 7:13 AM