White House: On second thought, Egypt is still kinda sorta an “ally”

posted at 4:01 pm on September 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

I’m not sure what this has to do with Romney’s gaffes, but I thought I’d toss it out there while we’re waiting on more gaffe news.

Alternate headline: “‘Foreign-Policy President’ terrible at foreign policy.”

“I don’t think that we would consider them an ally, but we don’t consider them an enemy,” Obama said. “They’re a new government that is trying to find its way. They were democratically elected. I think that we are going to have to see how they respond to this incident.”

That comment had Egypt watchers scratching their heads, especially since technically, Egypt was designated as a Major Non-NATO Ally in 1989 when Congress first passed the law creating that status, which gives them special privileges in cooperating with the United States, especially in the security and technology areanas…

“I think folks are reading way too much into this,” Vietor said. “‘Ally’ is a legal term of art. We don’t have a mutual defense treaty with Egypt like we do with our NATO allies. But as the president has said, Egypt is longstanding and close partner of the United States, and we have built on that foundation by supporting Egypt’s transition to democracy and working with the new government.”…

Administration sources told The Cable that Obama’s “ally” comment was not pre-arranged or prepared by staff and that the question was not anticipated.

Egypt is indeed a U.S. ally as a matter of federal statute, although I wouldn’t put anything past a guy who defied the War Powers Act on Libya when it comes to ignoring laws duly enacted by Congress. In fairness to him, though, (a) statute or no, a country run by the Muslim Brotherhood is in no meaningful sense an “ally” of the United States and (b) I think his point last night, that at the moment Egypt isn’t an ally in the meaningful sense of the word, was clear enough. If you want to be annoyed with him, be annoyed that he apparently dropped that rhetorical bomb spontaneously, without discussing it with his diplomatic staff first. Who knows how the Muslim Brotherhood or the Salafists might exploit a cold shoulder like that from the president of the United States to consolidate power in Egypt. Obama wasn’t thinking of that, of course; he was thinking, as always, of his own reelection, knowing that he had to say something mildly disapproving of Egypt while voters here are ticked off over the swarming of the embassy. So he covered his own ass and gambled that what he said won’t come back to bite him later. Because he’s the Foreign-Policy President, you see.

For your entertainment, one of the more awkward press conference exchanges you’ll ever see. The State Department still considers Egypt an ally, it’s just their boss who’s a little iffy on the concept. Let’s call this clip “Smart Power.”


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Epic fail.

RovesChins on September 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM

I’m not sure what this has to do with Romney’s gaffes, but I thought I’d toss it out there while we’re waiting on more gaffe news.

AP, snark king! I bow to you.

peski on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Mulligan!

Libraritarian on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Obama is kinda, sorta a president.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

They’re an “ally”, but not an “ally-ally”.

Chickyraptor on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Smart never looked so dumb.

tom daschle concerned on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

so “ally” was not on the teleprompter. thats a shock. i cant wait for Oct 3rd….

t8stlikchkn on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

The Mohammedans are laughing at you America you and your WIMP USURPER President. They attacked TWO of your embassies SIMULTANEOUSLY on the anniversary of 9/11 and your pathetic REGIME was apologizing to THEM even BEFORE the attacks took place.

Don’t believe me look at the time line the US Egyptian Embassy issued its USURPER inspired, pathetic, wimpish, weasel like sniveling apology for American Free Speech BEFORE the Embassy was attacked.

The USURPER has turned the USA in to a laughing stock all over the world.

The REGIME wants you to believe that an obscure little online movie trailer was the cause of this what a JOKE that is .Why were all the Egyptians and Libyans shouting ‘”There are Billions of OSAMAS- Obama”. Who CO-ORDINATED the attacks who told them to chant OSAMA BIN LADENS name. Its the USURPER’s and the DUMBOCRATS constant football SPIKING mantra of ‘I KILLED OSAMA’ that has them riled up.

RasThavas on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

The irony of Egypt and Libya destroying this hoax and charlatan is sweeter than molasses.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

If you want to be annoyed with him, be annoyed that he apparently dropped that rhetorical bomb spontaneously, without discussing it with his diplomatic staff first.

Or at the lack of security briefings he held leading up to 9/11 or in the aftermath of the murder of a US Ambassador.

But don’t worry. His camp said those briefings are delivered to his residence, so he’ll read them once he’s done partying in Vegas.

BadgerHawk on September 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

BTW the film seems to be a fairly accurate description of the life of Mohammad all derived from Islams OWN writings about him in the Hadith. They describe how he married his favorite wife Aisha when she was 6 YEARS OLD and CONSUMMATED that marriage when she was NINE YEARS OLD in the intervening years he used to pleasure her by rubbing her between her thighs on his knee. He was also a SLAVE OWNING WARLORD and demanded, and got, 20% of all the booty his Muslim thugs took when they raided caravans. He also took is choice of the women captured as his SEX SLAVES. The men and boys he had BEHEADED. Including 900 male members of a Jewish Tribe the Muslims captured , Mohammad made one of their leaders women his WIFE the same day he had him beheaded. Its all there in ISLAMS OWN writings on the life of Mohammad.

RasThavas on September 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

The land of the ‘free’.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Depends on what your definition of “IS” is…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on September 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

I’ll take “flip flop” for 500, Alex.

kim roy on September 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

AP said:

I’m not sure what this has to do with Romney’s gaffes

You mean “gaaaaaaaaffes”.

Jon0815 on September 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

This guy can’t get anything right without his teleprompter (and even then, he just reads without thinking), and the LSM happily ignore his stupidity. Arrrrgh.

JoAnn1965 on September 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Obamateurism of the Preezie-dency.

ElectricPhase on September 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

All of this reminds me of the scene in the movie “Mars Attacks” where Jack Nicholson playing the part of the President proclaims to the American people “We still have two out of three branches of government and that’s not bad!”

Natebo on September 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Obama owns Cairo and the Arab Icicle.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I’m getting dizzy.

Night Owl on September 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

This is what goes around, comes around… too good the same day he says Romney shoots before he aims … HA HA HA HA

djl130 on September 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

“We apologise again for the fault in the
subtitles. Those responsible for sacking
the people who have just been sacked,
have been sacked.”

AubieJon on September 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Man, who was that man pressing her so hard? Get him on the WH Press Corps, or on CNN, or at the NYTimes.

dgarone on September 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Ah for the days when the Democrats claimed oral sex wasn’t sex.

rhombus on September 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Dayum!! Just can’t even take a few days off from the news. Go fishin one weekend and BOOM!! The whole world turns to sh!t: ME in flames, FED announces QE3, and half of Africa’s mining operations get shut down.

abobo on September 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Obama hates Africans!!!!!

MeatHeadinCA on September 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

OT Wolf on CNN:

CNN exploring… “Did Consulate have enough security?”

Wolf: “Sortof reminds me of 1979, in Iran

faraway on September 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Administration sources told The Cable that Obama’s “ally” comment was not pre-arranged or prepared by staff and that the question was not anticipated.

*cough* Imagine that.

Then again, since when does this president anticipate any questions beyond the Tiger Beat variety?

Libraritarian on September 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Leadership is a real term.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Boy, that Romney really screwed up again didn’t he.

forest on September 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

footage from Libyan consul attack shows gunmen sent by pres of Egypt

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fdc_1347560702

looks like this was a set up through and through by the Muslim Brotherhod

golembythehudson on September 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Have our Joint Chiefs of Staff done any more groveling or are they maxed out on that for a while?

RasThavas on September 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Administration sources told The Cable that Obama’s “ally” comment was not pre-arranged or prepared by staff and that the question was not anticipated.

No kidding. President Teleprompter knows zip unscripted.

Slainte on September 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Obama shoot first and aims later.

bopbottle on September 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

The irony of Egypt and Libya destroying this hoax and charlatan is sweeter than molasses.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

I know it. I just love Muslim on Muslim crime. ;-)

RovesChins on September 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Welcome Black Carter.

Credit to jimver for the expression.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

He shoots, he misses, he aims. The foreign policy preezy. Come on, media, APPRECIATE THE IRONY!!!

Rational Thought on September 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Oh brother….

William Eaton on September 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Romney’s gaffes

What gaffes? Pissing off Obama’s media flunkies by making their hero look like the incompetent empty chair that he is?

cicerone on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

smart powah, indeed!

ted c on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Maybe we should be asking Valerie Jarrett since she, uh, kind of runs the show over there.

All in all, this is an EMBARRASSING DISASTER.

Punchenko on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Jennifer Rubin has an interesting list of questions for Obama.

Here is a few:

If the assault on the embassies was coordinated and planned, how did our intelligence not pick it up? Was it an item in the President Obama’s security briefing? Was there elevated chatter because of the 9/11 anniversary?

If there was information, why were the embassies not prepared? Were the embassy guards armed?

Why wasn’t the president prepared to answer the question as to whether Egypt is an ally or foe? Is he going to change his answer, or was that his final, final answer?

Why are we proceeding with over $1 billion in aid to the Egyptian government?

What disciplinary action has been taken against the Cairo embassy official who reportedly sent out a message regarding religious sensitivity after being told not to?

When did the president go to sleep Tuesday night, and when was he alerted to the deaths of Americans? Why did the White House wait so long to disavow the embassy’s online apology (later reissued by the embassy)?

I doubt she will get her answers.

Terrye on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Obama shoot first and aims later.

bopbottle on September 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

No. Obama bans the gun.

RovesChins on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Obama is kinda, sorta a president.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

“President is a legal term of art”
/The O Team

Bitter Clinger on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Not calling Egypt an ally was the only thing the Commie imbecile ever got right. And, then, of course, he renegs – making him an even bigger Commie imbecile.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

The best of all ironies will be to watch the media, who eat Obama’s sh*t, go under on Nov. 6. My nom lives for that moment.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Barack Obama here. I WILL STAND WITH MY MUSLIM BROTHERS !!

RasThavas on September 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Not calling Egypt an ally was the only thing the Commie imbecile ever got right. And, then, of course, he renegs – making him an even bigger Commie imbecile.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

“The spin machine gives me vertigo” — Goebbels’ dead azz

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

let’s give the clinton’s a little easier definition to make, kinda like a spelling bee.

Mrs. Clinton, please tell us what the definition of “is” is……and, if you can answer that successfully, then we will move onto the definition of “ally.” Sound fair? Ok, g’head sweetcheeks!

ted c on September 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Amatuer hour continues.

Sefton on September 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

The irony of Egypt and Libya destroying this hoax and charlatan is sweeter than molasses.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Do you think that will happen, or do you think Obama will weasel out of this?

Terrye on September 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

God help us.

Midas on September 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Sad thing is they used to be an ally before Obama threw their former President under the bus. Much more than the gaffe, Romney needs to rub that in Obama’s face.

Doughboy on September 13, 2012 at 4:13 PM

No. Obama bans the gun.

RovesChins on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

well, he’ll ban your gun, keep his own, and call you a bitter clinger.

/havin’ his cake…eatin’ her too….

ted c on September 13, 2012 at 4:13 PM

The USURPER has turned the USA in to a laughing stock all over the world.

RasThavas on September 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

No, that happened when the sheeple voted in this abomination in the first place.

squint on September 13, 2012 at 4:13 PM

White House: On second thought, Egypt is still kinda sorta an “ally”

The fish prefers to stay out of the water.

rukiddingme on September 13, 2012 at 4:13 PM

No one will ever call Obama “The Decider”

lorien1973 on September 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Administration sources told The Cable that … was not anticipated.

Pretty much sums up his presidency right there.

AZfederalist on September 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Cut the man some slack. Clearly Obama meant to say that England was not an ally. He just got a little confused, what with all the pressure he has been under lately, as Egypt and England both begin with an “E”.

VorDaj on September 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Dontcha know, it is like playing Simon Says. Obama didn’t say, “let me be clear” first, so it doesn’t count.

cep on September 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Do you think that will happen, or do you think Obama will weasel out of this?

Terrye on September 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

If good and sanity prevail, it’ll happen. If not, to hell with the stupid people. Free people always, always, always deserve their leaders. If they want to self-destoy you can be apathetic, be prepared and also laugh at them, with Schadenfreude.

It would be one thing if the enemy did this to the folks..

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

What a befuddled look she had on her face.

vcferlita on September 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Our, uh, uh, our, uh, well, uh, our, uh, bestest allies, uh, kill our, uh, Ambassadors and, uh, attack our, uh, embassies.

- The Imbecile Commie

OhEssYouCowboys on September 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

[reporter]: So you saying forget what the President said, Egypt is an ally. Is that right?

[State Dept Press Secretary]: Yep.

Oh my, I love smart power.

WisRich on September 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Three words: bath salts.

God help us.

pambi on September 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

“President is a legal term of art”
/The O Team

Bitter Clinger on September 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Remember this?

Wasserman Schultz calls Jerusalem omission from platform a ‘technical error’

MeatHeadinCA on September 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

“We apologise again for the fault in the
subtitles. Those responsible for sacking
the people who have just been sacked,
have been sacked.”

AubieJon on September 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

*stands and applauds wildly*

+1000

Midas on September 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Cut the man some slack. Clearly Obama meant to say that England was not an ally. He just got a little confused, what with all the pressure he has been under lately, as Egypt and England both begin with an “E”.

VorDaj on September 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Egypt is an ally in the same way that the British think they are an ally and that the Greeks think they are an ally.

cep on September 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

“Mr. Obama, what about your gaaaaaafes?”

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on September 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Wolf: “Sortof reminds me of 1979, in Iran“

faraway on September 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Is there a glimmer of daylight over there?

esr1951 on September 13, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Ah, they’re not a not ally because they didn’t sign a strategic pack with the US but we’re friends? Would that be like Pakistan also? Are they not a not ally? I would defer that to the WH to clean up also.

Exactly.

TerryW on September 13, 2012 at 4:17 PM

I bet Egypt punches above its weight.

aurelius on September 13, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Gee, if Obama didn’t help usher out Mubarak, which resulted in the MB becoming the rulers, maybe he wouldn’t have an issue now with Egypt kinda sorta not being an ally any longer. It was pretty clear they were an ally before the miraculous, wonderful Arab Spring took place…

ellifint on September 13, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Can we say that the Democrats like to fund terrorist nations, now?

MeatHeadinCA on September 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

If this is The Smartest Guy in the Room, what does this say about the room?

squint on September 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

If this is “smart power” I hate to think of the opposite.

It is the ultimate form of racism to ask this little of the first half black president.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

someone notify AGaaaaffeeeeee Waaaaaatchhhhh!

ted c on September 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Administration sources told The Cable that Obama’s “ally” comment was not pre-arranged or prepared by staff and that the question was not anticipated.

Pantload expressing his genius again…

Seven Percent Solution on September 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Have our Joint Chiefs of Staff done any more groveling or are they maxed out on that for a while?

RasThavas on September 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

I think they’ve moved on into cajoling US citizens for exercising their right to free speech.

AZfederalist on September 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

If this is The Smartest Guy in the Room, what does this say about the room?

squint on September 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

heh!

er...wait?!
/dude in room

ted c on September 13, 2012 at 4:19 PM

In a rare moment of candor away from the TOTUS, the Obama opined that a country who attacks America’s embassy may not be an ally.

But wait a minute, somebody might get offended and attack our defenseless diplomats, so they are an ally. Kinda sorta maybe not really.

Out: Oceania is allied with Eurasia, and at war with Eastasia.

In: Eastafrica is allied with Obama, and at war with Osama. Or maybe Eastafrica is allied with Osama, and at war with Obama. Or whatever Minitrue tells us tomorrow.

Steve Z on September 13, 2012 at 4:19 PM

“We apologise again for the fault in the
subtitles. Those responsible for sacking
the people who have just been sacked,
have been sacked.”

AubieJon on September 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

The moose are quite lovely.

Doughboy on September 13, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Follow The Pappy Plan for Foreign policy.

1. If they kill one of us, we kill 1,000 of them.

Let’s see how that works.

PappyD61 on September 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Obama is right. Egypt isn’t an ally, but the administration as usual makes a mess of it because it lacks the guts to stick with what everyone knows is true. So they engage in this idiotic song and dance because they don’t want to admit that they were instrumental in creating the situation.

sharrukin on September 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM

“Aaa, aaa was off the teleprompter”

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Anyone notice that the typical Obama ‘expiration dates’ keep getting shorter and shorter?

Liam on September 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM

So can we investigate Billary and Huma’s financial relations with the moozie bros or not ?

burrata on September 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Egypt isn’t isn’t an ally.

- The Imbecile Commie
[with teleprompter]

OhEssYouCowboys on September 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Administration sources told The Cable that Obama’s “ally” comment was not pre-arranged or prepared by staff and that the question was not anticipated.

Pantload expressing his genius again…

Seven Percent Solution on September 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Did TOTUS pull a fast one on him again?

Bitter Clinger on September 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Egypt was designated as a Major Non-NATO Ally in 1989 when Congress first passed the law

Well, when you ignore the Constitution, laws don’t have any real meaning.

rbj on September 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM

[reporter]: So you saying forget what the President said, Egypt is an ally. Is that right?

[State Dept Press Secretary]: Yep.

Oh my, I love smart power.

WisRich on September 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

I’m thinking she is a career State Department employee. Long after Jugears is gone, she will still be there. She’s gonna do her best diplomatic bit to fix the damage Jugears did, but she’s not going to be stupid about it.

AZfederalist on September 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Follow The Pappy Plan for Foreign policy.

1. If they kill one of us, we kill 1,000 of them.

Let’s see how that works.

PappyD61 on September 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Marines are not even allowed ammo in Cairo, or other embassies/consulate, if they are there at all.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM

If this is The Smartest Guy in the Room, what does this say about the room?

squint on September 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

It’s empty.

AubieJon on September 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Obaservation – the trolls must be summoned to an Axelturd desperado meeting.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Obama is waiting for Morsi to post his golf handicap prior to saying for sure whether he is an ally or not.

Deano1952 on September 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM

I think his point last night, that at the moment Egypt isn’t an ally in the meaningful sense of the word, was clear enough.

His meaning was clear to most of us. The ones confused are Obama, his press secretary, and the MSM.

LASue on September 13, 2012 at 4:24 PM

It’s times like this that I miss the on-demand trolls who magically appear at any time we’re talking poll results or supposed Rombo missteps.

Bishop on September 13, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Hell, The Commie Imbecile didn’t even know where Egypt was, until yesterday, when he caught the tail-end of Dora The Explorer.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Ready! Fire! Aim!

d1carter on September 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Isa 32:5 No longer will the fool be called noble nor the scoundrel be highly respected.

Soon, Lord, SOON !!

pambi on September 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM

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