Video: NBC chief foreign correspondent blasts Obama’s “Egypt not an ally” statement

posted at 10:41 am on September 13, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama’s assertion that he doesn’t consider Egypt an ally stunned NBC’s chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel.  Engel, reporting from Cairo, tells Chuck Todd that he needed to “sit down” after hearing that statement.  Engel reminds Todd that the US had two major Arab allies in the region when Obama took office, on which it spent a significant amount of foreign aid to keep it that way — Egypt and Saudi Arabia.  If we’ve lost Egypt as an ally, Engel asks, wasn’t supporting the effort to overthrow Hosni Mubarak a huge mistake?

Here’s a partial transcript:

TODD: I just want to get your first reaction, before you give me a report, of the President saying Egypt was not an ally or an enemy.

ENGEL: Yeah, I almost had to sit down when I heard that.  For the last forty years, the United States has had two main allies in the Middle East — Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the other ally in the Middle East being Israel.  For the President to come out and say, well, he’s not exactly sure if Egypt is an ally any more but it’s not an enemy, that is a significant change in the perspective of Washington toward this country, the biggest country in the Arab world.  It makes one wonder, well, was it worth it?  Was it worth supporting the Arab Spring, supporting the demonstrations here in Tahrir Square, when now in Tahrir Square there are clashes going on behind me right in front of the US embassy?

You can see now teargas coming — teargas being fired into a crowd of demonstrators who are trying to get close to the embassy, which is at the end of the street, and throw rocks at the US embassy.  A very different scene here, a very different Egypt before, when the United States — President Obama — was supporting the demonstrators, President Mubarak was in power, and Egypt was very much an ally.  The President doesn’t seem to be sure if Egypt is an ally any more, and some demonstrators who the Arab Spring helped give a voice to are trying to attack the US embassy.

Who lost Egypt? Barack Obama.  His administration waited eight whole days when those demonstrations erupted to demand Mubarak’s ouster, and then insisted on immediate elections — even though the only opposition organized well enough at that point in time for elections was the radical Muslim Brotherhood.  In both Egypt and even more in Libya — where Obama applied military force to dislodge and topple Moammar Qaddafi — the White House left power vacuums that allowed the most radical elements to seize control.  Critics of Obama’s policies in both regards warned of this very outcome eighteen months ago, to no avail.

It looks like the media may have finally decided that Mitt Romney’s criticism of an embassy statement that even the Obama administration ended up disavowing isn’t the biggest issue at stake here.  We’re watching the collapse of decades of diplomacy and the Pax Americana within a few short weeks.  Engel’s not the only one who has to sit down over the stunning declaration that we’ve lost Egypt as an ally.

Addendum: Here’s a good question: What lesson has Obama taught our other major Arab ally, Saudi Arabia, over the last two years?


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Critics of Obama’s policies in both regards warned of this very outcome eighteen months ago, to no avail.

Wait a minute! Barry knows EVERYTHING! And he’s a Diplomatic Wonder! The entire world LOVES Barry!

GarandFan on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

So Obama fired before he aimed. How about that?

HumpBot Salvation on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

It may not be popular here on HA, but I am kind of glad he said that Egypt may not be an ally.
Not an enemy, but not an ally either.
They have just gone through a HUGE change in political leadership and are discovering who they want to be.

It does send a message to Morsi that we have a certain expectation of our allies and we do not think that Egypt is presently living up to them. Egypt needs to prove itself to the US.

While he may have said it more diplomatically, I can live with it.

Jabberwock on September 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM

You probably missed this:

Our President said Egypt is not really an ally?

And this is the 13th?

Way back on the 5th to 9th…

After cancelling with Israel…

Just days after a report that the U.S. was sharply cutting its participation in a military exercise scheduled with Israel, U.S. planes landed in Egypt Tuesday for a joint exercise, the first since the fall of Hosni Mubarak. Code-named “Eagle Arena 2012,” the exercise will include air and naval forays by US and Egyptian planes and boats, over the country, Sinai, and the Red Sea.

According to Egyptian media reports, the purpose of the exercise is to enable Egyptian forces to practice both defensive and offensive tactics. The specific number of American troops and planes participating in the exercise.

The exercise is one of a series of steps the U.S. has undertaken in recent weeks to build ties with the regime of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Mohammed Morsi, the new President of Egypt. According to U.S. reports, Washington is set to forgive a billion dollars of Egyptian debt as part of its international assistance program for Egypt. The debt will be dumped in the laps of U.S. taxpayers. Egypt currently owes the U.S. some $3 billion.

IlikedAUH2O on September 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM

It’s time to signal to the Egyptian people that their extremist government has forged a rift with the USA while reminding the Brotherhood that no more diplomatic niceties are going to protect them from the consequences of their future actions and failure to protect Americans.

bayam on September 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Your imagined phantom leverage does not exist. Like Rainbow Unicorns.

Extremists who believe in the Caliphate will sacrifice anything to make it happen, and they have stated such. Or does your cognitive dissonance extend to facts on the ground?

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on September 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM

So Obama fired before he aimed. How about that?

HumpBot Salvation on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

He acted stupidly.

MeatHeadinCA on September 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM

So, we know how Obama will respond to the U.S. deaths in Libya: drone strikes.

How many of you think we’ll take out the actual killers? How many think he’ll just order some random strikes to make it look like he’s solved the problem?

hawksruleva on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

I doubt there will even be any token drone strikes, Libya is all out of aspirin factories.

SWalker on September 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Credit to Israel National News, Sept 2012

IlikedAUH2O on September 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM

He still in vegas???

jimver on September 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Maybe he’s jetting off to Deerborn as we type.

MeatHeadinCA on September 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Heh, let them eat bakhlavas :)..

jimver on September 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM

So Obama fired before he aimed. How about that?

HumpBot Salvation on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Somehow, his foot got in the way.

ElectricPhase on September 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM

So, any bets as to how many fainting couches the MSM is going to go through in the next few weeks?

I am one small person in fly-over country, and I saw the writing on the wall from the get-go. It would be so gratifying to have a ‘told you so’ moment, but the situation is slipping into terrifying.

Point, if they aren’t our ally, can stop any further aid pronto. Non-allies with German U-boats trends my thinking to certain books of the Bible I don’t want to think about.

InWyoVeritas on September 13, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

If he is not an ally, why is he meeting with Egypt’s President?

If Israel is an ally, why is Obama not meeting Netanyahu?

Riddle me that Sherlock.

sentinelrules on September 13, 2012 at 11:14 AM

The second scoop in this crap Sundae is the notion that our nation’s leader would de-friend Egypt via the media. The fact that they actually tweeted the breakup for him makes this an instant new low-water mark for the way to conduct diplomacy.
Then again, we already know Barry couldn’t operate an iphone to send out his own tweets.

TexasDan on September 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Hey now, changing your Facebook status from ally to enemy is soooo last year.

Lily on September 13, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Hillary has lost her entire mind. To Hell with her, and them, as Krauthammer said.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

We’ll break this down for you really easily. Obama CHOSE to get the US involved in Egypt’s politics last year during the great “Arab Spring.” Hosni Mubarak, while far from my type of guy, at least acted like an ally. But, noooo, Obama embraced the pro-rape Islamists. Look how that turned out.

MeatHeadinCA on September 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Jabberwock on September 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM

The message is one of confusion…flying by the seat of your pants

workingclass artist on September 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

With the Jordanian monarchy now facing a major Islamist/Muslim Brotherhood problem of its own, and largely innefective, the U.S. is down to two major allies in the region, Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Mr. Arkadin on September 13, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Assuming a victorious Brotherhood lets them back into Jordan, that would solve the “Palestinian problem.”

de rigueur on September 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

“Make no mistake… we have no better ally than we have in Egypt”.

PBHO – the next day.

LtGenRob on September 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Dear Mr. Engel,

Could you help out the US and maybe ask what the ‘Obama Doctrine’ actually is? You know, the coherent thread that is supposed to run through all the foreign policy of an Administration?

Because no one, anywhere on this planet, has actually been able to define it… and what we have gotten from Powers, Rice and Clinton is a Charlie-Foxtrot not a doctrine.

Pretty please, Mr. Engel?

This could be described as ‘doing your job as a foreign policy expert reporter’!

You do have a job beyond Obama rah-rah type, yes?

ajacksonian on September 13, 2012 at 11:16 AM

TexasDan on September 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM

That was brilliant Tex, very good catch.

JusDreamin on September 13, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Whether a country is an ally, enemy, or neutral toward the United States depends on that country’s government. Egypt under Sadat and Mubarak was an ally–it could be trusted not to invade Israel or attack American interests. Egypt under the Muslim Brotherhood cannot be trusted, and is no longer an ally.

Iran was an ally of the United States under the Shah, but is clearly an enemy since 1979.

Germany and Japan were enemies of the United States during World War II, but are allies now.

Obama’s statement that Egypt is no longer an ally is obviously TRUE, and he deserves credit for candor. But it is a d@mning indictment of his former foreign policy of calling for the ouster of Mubarak (an ally) and his military support of the Libyan rebels without first finding out who they were and how they would run Libya if given power.

American foreign policy should be dedicated to protecting allies, defeating (or at least intimidating) enemies, and trying to forge friendships with non-aligned countries, at least through trade.

Obama’s foreign policy has turned at least one ally into an enemy (Egypt), alienated three solid allies (Israel, the UK, and Poland), militarily aided people who are now our enemies in Libya, failed to support the liberation of Iran in 2009, and allowed Russia to bully the United States. With a record like that, does anyone seriously believe Romney can’t do better, and have an adult in the White House instead of a patsy?

Steve Z on September 13, 2012 at 11:16 AM

For the President to come out and say, well, he’s not exactly sure if Egypt is an ally any more but it’s not an enemy, that is a significant change in the perspective of Washington toward this country, the biggest country in the Arab world.

Sure. 30 years ago, when Anwar Sadat, arguably one the friendliest Egyptian leaders the US has ever known, was shot to death while riding in a parade, all Americans thought “well, that doesn’t matter…still buds!”

F**king idiots.

MadisonConservative on September 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Give me a break. The US doesn’t need to waste any more time kissing Egypt’s arse through pointless diplomacy in light of recent events.

bayam on September 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM

GOOD diplomacy is more than kicking ass. Unfortunately, the current administration doesn’t seem to understand that. I honestly believe that Obama doesn’t have a real grasp of current events, and has no plan for how to deal with various nations. He just kind of wings it, relying on the amazing intellect that various folks have told him he has. He hasn’t consistently furthered ANY policy:

Protests in Iran? Who cares.
Protests in Libya? We must intervene to help the protesters!
Protests in Egypt? Hmmm, wait. Ok, let’s call for elections!
Protests in Syria? Who cares.

hawksruleva on September 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

If Romney had said nothing you would be attacking him as an uncaring oaf.

Welcome to the world of Big Boy Politics. When you’re ready to come down off that high horse you be sure to let us know.

Bishop on September 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Why assume this was a gaffe by Obama, or even stupidity?

It’s part of the plan.

If Egypt is no longer an ally of the US, then of course the US has no control over what its government does. This will be very useful for Obama when the Egyptian government decides to abrogate its peace treaty with Israel.

Obama’s plan all along has been to surround Israel with Islamist states controlled by violent terrorist groups. Then he will throw up his hands and tell Israel it is on its own, the American people are tired of war and we will not go to war with the entire Muslim world. So Israel will either commit voluntary suicide or launch attacks and be annihilated when no one comes to its defense.

This is the only way to reconcile Obama’s hands-off policies toward the uprisings Iran and Syria while he encouraged revolutions in Egypt and Libya. Everything he is doing makes sense once you understand his plan.

I do not believe he anticipated attacks on our embassies and certainly not an assassination of an Ambassador. This is why the White House and State Department are furiously spinning this wave of embassy attacks as being an understandable response to a film produced by another crazy American Christianist (bonus points if they can successfully force Mitt Romney to take a stand on the film and on Terry Jones, and use this to launch more attacks on Christians.) They are desperately trying to deflect any media analyis that might lead to the revelation of the plan.

rockmom on September 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Engle says Obumbles statement is “stunning”? He says he had to “sit down” when he heard it?

Wow. I had that exact same reaction, when I heard an NBC broadcaster criticize the God-King. Or should I say “ex-NBC broadcaster?

MTF on September 13, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Barack Obama’s assertion that he doesn’t consider Egypt an ally stunned NBC’s chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel.

…not to worry!…the rest of the MSM will soon be telling us what JugEars “meant to say”!

KOOLAID2 on September 13, 2012 at 11:18 AM

So, we know how Obama will respond to the U.S. deaths in Libya: drone strikes.

How many of you think we’ll take out the actual killers? How many think he’ll just order some random strikes to make it look like he’s solved the problem?

hawksruleva on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Yeah, and the resilt, he will kill more inmocent people in the drone attacks (collateral damage, right) that in turn will make for the perfect recruiting tool for more jihadis and suicidal crazies in the middle east. that’s the Won middle east policy for ya..by comparison, bush’s was genius..

jimver on September 13, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Hillary has lost her entire mind. To Hell with her, and them, as Krauthammer said.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Hey, maybe she really does want Obama to lose. What kind of American would applaud this? She’s a spineless coward. Look what lefties do when their friends are killed by savages. Throw ‘em under the bus.

MeatHeadinCA on September 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Mohammed Morsi’s Egypt isn’t an ally though. It’s the only smart thing Obambi’s said all week (he also said the Lybian murderers will face justice, but he also said that he would work with Lybias government to find them… Obambi’s still a dumbass).

MSNBC isn’t an ally either.

Alberta_Patriot on September 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Extremists who believe in the Caliphate will sacrifice anything to make it happen, and they have stated such. Or does your cognitive dissonance extend to facts on the ground?

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on September 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM

And that is 100 percent entirely what the Arab Spring is all about. It is about the new Islamic Caliphate that is even at this very moment emerging. Barack Insane Obama has done more to encourage and enable this new and emerging Islamic Caliphate than anyone else on earthy.

His choices of who to back in the middle east and who not to defend have had a profound impact on the formation of the new Caliphate. War is coming to the Middle East.

SWalker on September 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM

“Make no mistake… we have no better ally than we have in Egypt”.

PBHO – the next day.

LtGenRob on September 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

That would be funny if we hadn’t heard that before!

MeatHeadinCA on September 13, 2012 at 11:20 AM

bayam on September 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Missing your sarc tag because I don’t believe your sincerity in suggesting the US send in “an occupying army to ensure a smoother transition of power”.

freedomfirst on September 13, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Hillary has lost her entire mind. To Hell with her, and them, as Krauthammer said.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Obama and Hillary are too busy attacking Americans to notice that we had a terror attack on 9-11… again… on their watch.

faraway on September 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Former US Navy Seal ID’d as one of the Libyan Embassy victims.

blatantblue on September 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM

gutmeandpokeme…what’s your take?…theirs no pole/poll involved….maybe you can interject one here!

KOOLAID2 on September 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM

How long did it take you to dig up that irrelevant, childish crap?

rplat on September 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Went right over your head, did it?

OxyCon on September 13, 2012 at 11:22 AM

I don’t think we will wait, what is it, 50 years to publish everything this president had done while sitting in the white house.
Coming soon to a public school near you.

archo on September 13, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Assuming a victorious Brotherhood lets them back into Jordan, that would solve the “Palestinian problem.”

de rigueur on September 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Dear God I hope that was suppose to be snark.

SWalker on September 13, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

No, no. We’re long past outrage at Dr. Utopia’s foreign policy mistakes and the hapless antics of that pile of poop in a pastel pantsuit. It’s a mixture of laughter and tears now.

November 6. Getting closer every day.

spiritof61 on September 13, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Who lost Egypt? NOBODY. The West was going to lose Egypt Regardless of whether or not we helped the demonstrators early or later. The US and West ally in Egypt was Mubarak and his Army. That’s why gave the Egyptian Army $ 1 Billion / year.
The Egyptian people have NEVER been a US or West ally…Just like all Arabs outside their government. Leave it to the people and the US and West will ALL get kicked out of the Middle East no matter what we do.
The US lost Egypt when Mubarak got thrown out, period. Obama or McCain or Romney or Bush or Reagan could do NOTHING about it.

An Arab World democracy will mean increasing hastily to the US. Look what is happening in Syria: the “rebels” are mostly extremists that will turn around and attack the US and West whenever they get power and there is NOTHING America can do about it. We can give them guns , war planes and tanks and they will use it against us as soon as they are in power…It takes DICTATORS to control the Arab streets and keep peace with the West. Saudi Arabia would turn hostile to the US if the people there ad their ways…Same for Kuwait and all these countries.

I dislike Obama as much as anyone in the way he is changing America for the worse but blaming him (or any American) for losing Egypt is a bunch or partisan crap.

This Election will be won on the Economy and mitt Romney telling America HOW he will do differently than Obama beside tax cuts. It won’t be won by the right trying desperately to turn Obama into Carter in foreign policies. Most Americans are TIRED of war and aggression. They are worried about the deficit and economy. Another war will just put us in a bigger hole.

The US and West are better off helping the moderate government of Libya cleaning the streets of Islamists. If that works, it will send a message to other moderates around the Arab world that the US will have their back against Islamists. Egypt is a different story. The Army is desperately trying to keep power and avoiding another revolution against them. They will throw the US under the bus if needed. The Islamic in power hate the US….The Army needs US money and support to keep whatever power they have left and if we abandon them, Egypt will turn into another Afghanistan Taliban. It’s a very delicate situation that needs finesse, not gun smoke.

jules on September 13, 2012 at 11:25 AM

IlikedAUH2O on September 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Man, I didn’t know we had gone directly into war gaming with Egypt directly after reducing the Israeli operation.
That is pretty telling. Thanks for the info.

a capella on September 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM

For the last forty years, the United States has had two main allies in the Middle East — Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the other ally in the Middle East being Israel.

Did anybody else raise an eyebrow at this part of his statement? We’re all focusing on the fact that he’s surprised at what Obama said, but this part stands out more to me. He says we have two main allies in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, and then offhandedly mentions Israel as “the other ally.” So Israel is not one of our main allies in the Middle East? We have a closer relationship with Saudi Arabia than Israel? Says a lot about the media perspective on the Middle East…

Shump on September 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

I never expressed outrage. I thought it was ballsy, and rare for Obama, it was a good ballsy.

MadisonConservative on September 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Kosovo should have taught us that the Muslim world will never feel the need to be grateful for Western favors.

Mr. Arkadin on September 13, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Good analysis.

The reason for your observation above is that the muslims view Western favors as their entitlement and their right. Those favors and aid are owed to the muslims as tribute from the dhimmis and infidels to the faithful. Look up “jizzya”. Thus, no gratitude is required and it is perfectly in line to demand even more from the infidel. This is why foreign aid or other help is not appreciated and sends the wrong message to these folks.

AZfederalist on September 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM

It would be amusing to see these Obama apologists come to their senses if the stakes weren’t so damn high. There’s really nothing more to say than to prepare. This isn’t 1979, Romney is no Reagan, there will be war, and we have this President to thank for it. Sickening.

quiz1 on September 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Obama will soon open an official Department of Propaganda. It’s been happening in front of your eyes, for 4 years+ but he’ll have to make it official.

Goebbels laughs his dead azz off, again.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

the White House and State Department are furiously spinning this wave of embassy attacks as being an understandable response to a film produced by another crazy American Christianist (bonus points if they can successfully force Mitt Romney to take a stand on the film and on Terry Jones, and use this to launch more attacks on Christians.) They are desperately trying to deflect any media analyis that might lead to the revelation of the plan.

rockmom on September 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Winner

This is why nobody knew what happened to the Ambassador for 12 hours.

faraway on September 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

I never expressed outrage. I thought it was ballsy, and rare for Obama, it was a good ballsy.

MadisonConservative on September 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM

I should have written ‘many of you guys’.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

But yet Obama is up 10 in Michigan, 7 in my state of NJ.

I honestly don’t know what Obama could mess up that would do him in politically. Getting caught with a young boy in the shower? Bawney Fwank would be immediately run out to the cameras to announce he’s not offended and then Romney’s condemnation would get turned around to be mean spirited and a rush to judgement. He’s more teflon than cookware.

Prediction: Obama’s next ad will propose that with all the problems going on, don’t change horse in midstream. Even though he’s the direct cause of most of it.

smfic on September 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM

I should have written ‘many of you guys’.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

You should have written that in most of your posts on this site. Unfortunately, you’ve been nothing but a bigot in most of your statements, painting the entire community with a broad brush. Nobody who has been here a while would be so foolish as to do that.

MadisonConservative on September 13, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Point, if they aren’t our ally, can stop any further aid pronto. Non-allies with German U-boats trends my thinking to certain books of the Bible I don’t want to think about.

InWyoVeritas on September 13, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Let them link up wth the drug cartel in Columbia….they build pretty good U-boats.

dirtengineer on September 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

I recognize that saying “Egypt not an ally” is a “gutsy call”, but it is also an indictment of Obama’s foreign policy.

Saying “Egypt not an ally” is the equivalent of saying my foreign policy in regard to Egypt is a failure, so should I help re-elect the guy who has admitted that his policies have failed ? Why not just give him a “participation ribbon” ?

J_Crater on September 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM

I don’t care.

Obama is awesome.

//

Solaratov on September 13, 2012 at 11:35 AM

NBC chief foreign correspondent blasts Obama’s -Egypt-not-an-ally-statement

I thought reporters were supposed to report facts.

LetsBfrank on September 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

“… the White House left power vacuums that allowed the most radical elements to seize control.”

Moderation sucks. Give me extremism in defense of liberty, please. That’s the only effort that prevents tyranny, rightly understood. But if you can’t rightly understand tyranny, then, yeah, give me a tyranny that defends liberty.

Dusty on September 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

About a year ago Egypt was an imperfect ally. Now any objective observer would at least question our alliance. I believe that it is only a matter of time before Egypt is another Iran. I am not outraged that Obama questioned the alliance, I am outraged that he supported the overthrow of an ally.

4 years ago we were told that the Democrats were the smart ones diplomatically. Bush was the reason we were despised in the region.

Now our embassies are under attack, our diplomats hiding, our embassy security outsourced to locals in warzones. Who is in charge of our embassies and Security at them? Hillary. She should be called before Congress and made to answer for her incompetence.

jpmn on September 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM

The Koranimals are going crazy nd Michell Bloombird bans large sodas.
How great is Amerika?

dirtengineer on September 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM

“It makes one wonder … was it worth supporting the demonstrations jihadist take over in Tahrir Square?”

…………..no…it was something anybody paying attention could see would turn out exactly like it has…..which is nothing to do with Freedom and everything to do with Jihadist implementation of sharia law on a large scale basis.

Baxter Greene on September 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Jimmy lost Iran.
Obama lost Egypt.
No hostages, though. Yet.
But we’ve still got nearly 4 months for more damage to be done before we get a President who will put American muscle where the current occupant’s mouth is.

Harrell on September 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Does anyone remember why Joe Biden was added to the ticket? Something about a one-term Senator from Chicago not having any foreign policy experience? Why would we “assume” that the status has changed—that now Obama is an accomplished foreign policy expert? Can we say that because Mr. Obama has done so well on the domestic front providing a stable economic future for all Americans, then he must also be qualified to control the world theater. Don’t forget, when Mr. Obama is re-elected, he will have much more “flexibility” with our allies. No worries.

Rovin on September 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Re: The Arab Spring
Barry spent BILLIONS of our wealth promoting this bullshit.
We should all contact our Representatives and demand a refund.

dirtengineer on September 13, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Guess O’Butthead will be turning in that Nobel Peace Prize now, huh?

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on September 13, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Hmmm… well he did reach out to him afterwards. And he also thanked the Libyan predident.

Deanna on September 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Duh.

Marxism is for dummies on September 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM

I would argue that disengaging from the corrupt regimes we’ve supported in that part of the world had to happen at some point. You all may have wished it could have happened later, but this is how it went down. And besides, the only reason there was no mainstream secular alternative to the Muslim Brotherhood is because we wanted it that way – support for Mubarak was contingent upon his wiping out any semblance of a left wing political opposition (fearing the commies and all). What happened in Egypt is the result of 30 years of American foreign policy, not 3.

ernesto on September 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Also true. If Obama considered the MB regime an ally, you’d be calling for his head.

ernesto on September 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

By the way, Gateway Pundit has this video stating that Obama thanked the Libyan President for his condolences.
As Jim Hoft says…”Unreal.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/

Deanna on September 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM

[Jabberwock on September 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM]

I appreciate your point and sympathize with it to a point. Under other circumstances it might be a good move, but the circumstances that do exist — a willing and more healthy Russia, a much more outward and interested China, not to mention the trend to a more cohesive and and aligning ME on religious rather than nationalistic grounds — point to Barry moving his king to block the rook’s threat to his queen.

Dusty on September 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM

What a bunch of bumbling buffoons we have running our country. It would appear Mr. President has no idea who his allies are. Nor does his SOS. Or his VP.

scalleywag on September 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM

ernesto on September 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Did you crib that from a Nick Kristof column? Jeez. Get some new material.

rockmom on September 13, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I would not call Saudi Arabia a close ally…either.

At the end of the day we have never had close Islamic allies and never will have them. The only close Islamic ally we ever had was Turkey for a time, and that was due to their brief period of removing Islam from their government due to Ataturk and also because they were a natural enemy of the Soviets/Russians.

In the long run this might work out to our benefit, because we can end the farcical notion that we are friends with Egypt, etc., and maybe stop the money and weapons we keep giving them as bribes not to attack Israel and us. I don’t think Obama did this for this reason. He just blundered into them because of his own stupidity and because he actually thinks Islam is inherently good, just like Bush did as well. It is an institutional thing we Americans are going to have to overcome…Islam is the number one reason why the Middle East is so dysfunctional.

William Eaton on September 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM

OMG Has the internet made all speech a virtual violation of the “Logan Act” ?

J_Crater on September 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Wonder what Barry O would say about the ally/enemy status of Israel, Iran….

So which column does losing Egypt as an ally belong in:
a) Great successes of Barry O
b) Great failures of Barry O
c) Something he will blame on Bush….

albill on September 13, 2012 at 11:54 AM

By the way, Gateway Pundit has this video stating that Obama thanked the Libyan President for his condolences.
As Jim Hoft says…”Unreal.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/

Deanna on September 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM

I wonder if they discussed how our ambassador, who helped the Libyans under Gadhafi, was raped, tortured, and murdered in the same manner as Gadhafi by the Libyan President’s people?

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=149468

LetsBfrank on September 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM

rockmom on September 13, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Hell, I wish I got paid like he does for writing that. If it was good enough to fool you, maybe I should send in some samples…

ernesto on September 13, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Addendum: Here’s a good question: What lesson has Obama taught our other major Arab ally, Saudi Arabia, over the last two years?

That a President will bow to them, literally.

Bitter Clinger on September 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Yep, remember it was Saudi Arabia that called Jackass and upbraided him with a lesson on ME diplomacy when Jackass was throwing Mubarak under the bus. The lesson was not lost on SA, -that Jackass is the weak horse in the world.

The irony, -Jackass is named after a horse.

slickwillie2001 on September 13, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Well, I’ve got to give Carter some credit. When HIS human rights above all else policy blew up in his face, he at least stayed in the White House and attended to business. When Obama’s charm doctrine blew, Obama went to Las Vegas. BTW, anyone remember after Obama inserted us into Libya, the next day he flew off to Brazil to give away $2 billion and tell them we’ll be standing in line to buy their gas (while he closed down our off-shore wells)?

Someone at the Romney campaign had best start connecting all these dots in some commercials.

And if I haven’t said it yet, I was proud of Romney. Proud of his statement; proud of his clarity in understanding that freedom of speech was getting thrown under the bus, and proud of his performance before the rigged press corps. I wish a few “Republican” pundits would get off the pile on.

Portia46 on September 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Addendum: Here’s a good question: What lesson has Obama taught our other major Arab ally, Saudi Arabia, over the last two years?

Ed, just how long can we prop up corrupt, oppressive regimes in this part of the world? Of course disengaging from that position will be disruptive, but what choice do we have? Eventually these regimes crumble, and due to our own actions there is no opposition but rabid Islamists. We insisted upon the wiping out of secular left wing opposition due to fear of communist influence. We made this bed, and Obama chose to finally lie in it. How much longer could we have waited, really?

ernesto on September 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM

“It makes one wonder, well, was it worth it? Was it worth supporting the Arab Spring

I think a burn down embassy and murdered ambassador should answer that question sufficiently.

tommyboy on September 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Addendum: Here’s a good question: What lesson has Obama taught our other major Arab ally, Saudi Arabia, over the last two years?

“You’re on your own if the fit hits the shan.”

Dexter_Alarius on September 13, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I have to say I agree with Obama on this point. I don’t think they are an ally anymore either. Not sure he should have actually said it, but I agree with him. Now can we stop the foriegn aid to Egypt? Thought not.

steel guy on September 13, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Ed, just how long can we prop up corrupt, oppressive regimes in this part of the world? Of course disengaging from that position will be disruptive, but what choice do we have? Eventually these regimes crumble, and due to our own actions there is no opposition but rabid Islamists. We insisted upon the wiping out of secular left wing opposition due to fear of communist influence. We made this bed, and Obama chose to finally lie in it. How much longer could we have waited, really?
ernesto on September 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM

How about until we are no longer dependent on their oil.

Drill Baby Drill takes on a more important focus now doesn’t it?

D-fusit on September 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM

There’s a very cheap cure for the 1979 virus – high speed lead injection.

rayra on September 13, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Dusty on September 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM

For the life of me, I have never understood how a truely Islamic country would have anything to do with either Russia or China. Those two’s history of dealing with Muslims within their own borders is atrocious at best. The US is leaps and bounds beyond them regarding co-existance.
To me, to me, this is a fundamental flaw in the whole militant-islamic stereotype of its aggression against the US. They strike out against us because they can benefit from it. They gain nothing in attacking either Russia or China. Both of whom are trying to ride their countries of Islam.

Jabberwock on September 13, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Whoa! Coming from NBC this is huge, because it means people will actually hear about it. I’ve been waiting for something like this to happen. We’ve been chronicling the misdeeds of this imposter/politician for 4 years now, and one by one his policies have brought disaster of one form or another to this country. Now, finally, he has voted “present” one time too many. Some conflicts it is impossible to be on both sides of, and now he is hoist with his own petard. His soft spot for revolution, his “post-colonial” reflexes have caught up with him at last. As Harold Macmillan, a famous British politician once (probably never) said, when asked what blows governments off course,”

Events, dear boy, events.”

smellthecoffee on September 13, 2012 at 12:16 PM

I feel very sorry for the American workers in the U.S. embassy in Egypt.

http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/

Yet more “Smart Power” from the fools in the Obama administration. Why don’t they just paint targets on their backs?

AZCoyote on September 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM

The Bald Avenger! Championing middle-eastern dictators since 10:23 pm 9/11/2012!

I’m sure there is a picture of you somewhere you took with your webcam of you holding up a purple dyed finger. Craven isn’t descri[tive enough.

tommyhawk on September 13, 2012 at 11:04 AM

That flop sweat you’re dripping really reeks.
And that swirling sound you hear is your lil barry – the SCOAMF – circling the bottom of the bowl.
Desperation — it’s all the left has anymore. But be careful. Cornered rats lash out in all directions; and don’t care what they destroy.

Solaratov on September 13, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Hmmm.

A very different scene here, a very different Egypt before, when the United States — President Obama — was supporting the demonstrators, President Mubarak was in power, and Egypt was very much an ally. The President doesn’t seem to be sure if Egypt is an ally any more, and some demonstrators who the Arab Spring helped give a voice to are trying to attack the US embassy.

Ooookay, Mr. President, what next? This Egypt, these rock-throwing Islamists, you’re not sure they’re an ally of the United States, I get that–they’ll burn down our embassy if they get that far. Did these Islamists look progressive to you before just because they were throwing rocks, and that’s why you threw Mubarak under the bus? News flash: we supported Mubarak for decades not because he was a nice guy. America has interests, Mr. President, and leadership involves knowing what those interests are, and protecting them, not being the cool guy who is “down for the struggle.” Nice going. The genie is out of the bottle now for sure. It’s like Carter all over again–a chess player who doesn’t know his queen from his knights from his pawns.

smellthecoffee on September 13, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Geez just let Bambi finish his waffles will you!!!

PackerBronco on September 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM

He still in vegas???

jimver on September 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Don’t worry. The world’s foremost foreign policy expert can control events from Vegas as well as from DC.
He’ll just get on his iPhone and…what? Oh. OK.

Solaratov on September 13, 2012 at 12:22 PM

I pulled an all-nighter on the critical night of the protests to watch the live stream from Tahrir. The protesters were are violent mob, nothing more, nothing less. All that “facebook revolution” (btw, how’s that stock price doing, you frauds?) was a lie.

The evidence was right there for all to see, yet Hillary and TFG insisted on casting their lot with Zawahiri and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Christien on September 13, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Obama’s unsureness is causing a lot of this. The tweet from the embassy shows the lack of control this WH has over the the grunts in the administration. Normally any communications have to be approved. But if you’re a career politician, why would you go to the WH for clarity on a position? The WH isn’t clear, so you might as well wing it.

hawksruleva on September 13, 2012 at 10:52 AM

The US Ambassador to Egypt managed to make sure her ass was in DC on 9/11. That and the immediate reporting that the strife was over this phony video – BEFORE any actual violence got fully under way – make it pretty obvious this whole thing was a setup. The State weenie that kept tweeting out apologies was just trying to save his own life on the scene.

rayra on September 13, 2012 at 12:28 PM

{Deanna on September 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM}

What’s wrong with that? As best I can make out, the Libyan government did what it could to protect Americans at the consulate and worked as best they could get them to safety. In light of this, it appears Magarief’s apology, which included his condolences and a vow to arrest the culprits, is sincere.

The prime responsibility for embassy protection is with the government of that embassy, just as the prime responsibility for your own defense is yourself. Now the critical-ness to the task and the structure of that defense is dependent on where it is. Britain, one structure. Libya another.

Secondarily, it’s the host country’s responsibility. Libya did what it could considering that it’s, well, a mess.

Unless I see solid evidence Libya actively conspired or even negligently ignored this happening, I don’t see a problem with the thank you.

Dusty on September 13, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Hell, I wish I got paid like he does for writing that. If it was good enough to fool you, maybe I should send in some samples…

ernesto on September 13, 2012 at 11:59 AM

What are you implying ernesto?

peterargus on September 13, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

suck it, cupcake.

rayra on September 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Had Obama said he did consider Egypt an ally, you guys would be expressing outrage at that.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

No we wouldn’t.

Egypt is NO longer an ally, due to Obama’s idiotic Arab Icicle.

Quit sending our enemies money.

Don’t forgive them the debt.

Arm the Marines in Cairo. They are not allowed ammo at the Cairo embassy.

What self-destructive fools we are.

Hillary can burn in Hades for her latest pronouncements for the savages.

The US can also burn in Hades for identifying the filmmaker.

Schadenfreude on September 13, 2012 at 12:39 PM

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