Uh oh: Chinese ships sail into Japanese waters near disputed islands

posted at 10:03 pm on September 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

Twitter is blowing up over this as I’m writing. The best thing I can do to get you up to speed is send you to this nifty Foreign Policy precis of the standoff. Nutshell version: Japan says the islands, which it calls the Senkaku, belong to it. (In fact, the Japanese government formally purchased them from their private owners just two days ago, partly to prevent them from being bought by Japanese nationalists and developed to spite China.) China says that the islands, which it calls the Diaoyu, actually belong to it per post-WWII agreements. The U.S. is obliged by treaty to defend Japan if it’s attacked; on the other hand, the agreements China’s citing to stake its own claim to the islands were authored by the U.S. Time for the Foreign-Policy President and Hillary to huddle. Quickly.

Two eternally rival nations, one a rising power and the other fading, locked in a territorial dispute that stems in part from the last time they went to war with each other. What could go wrong?

In 1971, the U.S. and Japan signed a treaty reverting Okinawa and the surrounding islands back to Japanese control, which stated “the United States of America relinquishes in favour of Japan all rights and interests under Article III of the Treaty of Peace with Japan signed at the City of San Francisco.”

China points to its own agreement with the United States, the 1943 Cairo statement issued by Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt and Chiang Kai-shek. The three leaders agreed that following the war, “Japan shall be stripped of all the islands in the Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the first World War in 1914, and that all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa, [Taiwan] and The Pescadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China.” If you accept, as Beijing does, that Diaoyu was part of Chinese-ruled Taiwan prior to 1895, then that would indicate that it would be returned to China along with the other seized islands. (It would also mean that the U.S. military was bombing Chinese territory throughout the ’50s and ’60s, but that’s another issue.)

Despite the history, the U.S. State Department has stated that “the US does not take a position on the question of the ultimate sovereignty of the Senkaku Islands.” But further complicating matters is the 1960 Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan. According to Article 5 of the treaty, “Each Party recognizes that an armed attack against either Party in the territories under the administration of Japan would be dangerous to its own peace and safety and declares that it would act to meet the common danger in accordance with its constitutional provisions and processes.”

A State Department official told a Japanese news agency in July that the islands do fall under Article 5, so either the U.S. will be drawn in here on Japan’s side or else it’ll break the treaty to avoid a confrontation with China. (What that would mean for further Chinese aggression in the East China Sea, including Taiwan, who knows?) Anyway, the news tonight from Reuters:

Two Chinese patrol ships entered Japanese territorial waters near disputed islets claimed by both Beijing and Tokyo on Friday, Japan’s Coast Guard said, marking the latest incident in a long-running dispute between China and Japan.

The Chinese ships have not followed the coast guard’s order to go out of the territorial waters, a Japan coast guard official said.

According to Chinese media, they’re surveillance ships. Russia Today — which is a Kremlin-backed news outfit, for what it’s worth — says there are actually eight Chinese ships in the area, four inside the disputed zone and four outside, and that Japan has set up a “crisis center” and “urgently” summoned the Chinese ambassador. There’s another report floating around that, as of last night, three more Chinese surveillance ships were spotted near the Scarborough Shoal, another disputed territory — this one between China, Taiwan, and the Phillippines. Looks like China’s sending a message to all of its regional rivals at once. The Phillippines is itself ready to send ships to the shoal; no word yet on whether the Chinese ships are still there.

I’m seeing next to nothing on this so far in U.S. media, but Raymond Pritchett’s Twitter feed is chock full of new info. (Most of the above links are harvested from him.) Stick with his feed for updates. One interesting wrinkle: Apparently there’s a typhoon headed for the islands tonight, which might be the pretext used by both sides to pull out and save face/declare victory. Panetta’s scheduled to travel to the region “soon.” No doubt it’ll be sooner than he’d planned.


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Looks like Plugs was right… if not 38 months late in his prediction.

Rixon on September 13, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Another intel report the Won failed to read.

de rigueur on September 13, 2012 at 10:06 PM

There’s another report floating around that, as of last night, three more Chinese surveillance ships were spotted near the Scarborough Shoal, another disputed territory — this one between China, Taiwan, and the Phillippines.

Looks like it’s time for Obama to book a trip to Disney World…

AUINSC on September 13, 2012 at 10:07 PM

plenty of room under barry’s cavalcade of commie perversions bus for japan…

mittens on September 13, 2012 at 10:08 PM

It’s 3 AM. Barry is passed out in a Vegas hotel room with Biden and a hooker.

WisCon on September 13, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Somebody has to pay for QE III.

Valiant on September 13, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Ann Romney rides expensive horses!

SouthernGent on September 13, 2012 at 10:12 PM

I’m seeing next to nothing on this so far in U.S. media

And you won’t see anything until Romney “shoots first, asks questions later.”

Mark1971 on September 13, 2012 at 10:12 PM

3:00 am and the White House phone is ringing off the hook. Nevertheless, this is World Court type stuff.

Greek Fire on September 13, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Looks like the Chinese are going for Door No. 2, Romney, they do polls here, too, real polls. Why? They are the largest holder of our debt and would prefer to be paid back in somewhat real dollars than grossly inflated ones, which they’ll get with four more years of Obama and Bernanke. This move against Japan is their wagging the dog moment, and well done, by the way.

TXUS on September 13, 2012 at 10:13 PM

WOW!! Someone already predicted this, sorry don’t remember who…

I got a sick feeling in my stomach… WW3 is on it’s way.

I am surprised Amadineajacket hasn’t come forth to bleat that this is the coming of their…. oh someone help me! Some prophet or somthing to herald in the end of times… that’s his schtick…

Scrumpy on September 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM

And why not. Who’s gonna stop ‘em?

LtGenRob on September 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Meanwhile, amateur hour in D.C. continues.

wolfsDad on September 13, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Wars and rumors of wars.

I guess there may be more than one 3:00 am call.

In fact, neither China nor Taiwan had taken up the question of sovereignty over the islands until the latter half of 1970 when evidence relating to the existence of oil resources deposited in the East China Sea surfaced.

http://www.everytrail.com/tell_story.php?trip_id=1767651&fromGV=true&newUser=true&partner_id=1002

Looks like they are close enough to mainland China and Japanese airbases on Okinawa.

sharrukin on September 13, 2012 at 10:15 PM

“Never waste a crisis” is a global truth.

Mimzey on September 13, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I said this 3 years ago when everyone was saying the election in 2012 is going to be all about the economy: In 2012, national security is going to be a huge factor.

We are now reaping 4 years of appeasement, weakness and ambiguity.

dukecitygirl on September 13, 2012 at 10:16 PM

My God Allah.

Why are you covering stuff like this when the REAL media are focused on important stuff. Turn on CNN now. Chuck Todd and Lawrence O’Donnell have party hats on and are toasting the new polling with champagne.

I dunno guys, it’s not my country. But if I was an American, I’d be storming the fucking newsrooms right now. It’s like fucking 1984.

Johnimus on September 13, 2012 at 10:17 PM

The whole world feels safe to embark on adventurism, with the U.S. appearing feckless and weak… it’s about to get dangerous all over the place. But hey, Barry’s such a wonderful leader, right?

fabrexe on September 13, 2012 at 10:17 PM

China and Japan getting into it.

Russia poking their nose in.

ME goes up in flames.

Islamists in the US create chaos.

Well, we all know the scenario…

This will be the end folks!

And Obama is nowhere to be found…

Heinous and dispicable…

Scrumpy on September 13, 2012 at 10:17 PM

It’s 3 AM. Barry is passed out in a Vegas hotel room with Biden and a hooker.

WisCon on September 13, 2012 at 10:09 PM

A male hooker I ‘bet’!

RavingLunatic on September 13, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Nothing a little smart power can’t solve.

Punchenko on September 13, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I really thought this snowball of world crises would happen in Obama’s first year.

Mark1971 on September 13, 2012 at 10:18 PM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ?

Axe on September 13, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Gird your lions as Obama parties in Vegas

Gracelynn on September 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Just remember boys and girls—-since Jimmy Carter we have always been told that foreign policy is not that important—–but only when it concerns democraps.

arnold ziffel on September 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Mark1971 on September 13, 2012 at 10:18 PM

The One had to set us up for the fall…

Couldn’t happen in the first year…

Now is the time tho…

Arab Spring and all that, our economy in the tank…etc etc etc…

Scrumpy on September 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Spine of steel!

mrscullen on September 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Stoopid Romney.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on September 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Gird your loins

vcferlita on September 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Who owns more US debt? I know it’s been the ChiComs for a long time, but the Japanese have been making a late push.

That said, all the ChiComs can do is make them a radioactive mess. Given the history between the Chinese and Japanese, a distinct possibility.

Steve Eggleston on September 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Is there some reason Japan and China can’t work this one out on their own?

JohnGalt23 on September 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

I’m seeing next to nothing on this so far in U.S. media,

There is so muchs tuff going on, like Romney’s— dog, and horsey, and taxes, and shirts—plus he is shooting without aiming and…..who has timefor such petty problems like a war looming at our ally’s doorstep.
If they are an ally that is.

burrata on September 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

So it looks like China too has concluded that Jackass is a weakling president that may be on his way out, and they have an opportunity to advance their goals while Jackass is partying with Beyonce.

slickwillie2001 on September 13, 2012 at 10:24 PM

What?!? Is it 3AM already??

AubieJon on September 13, 2012 at 10:24 PM

The South China Seas War is not going to be pretty.

rbj on September 13, 2012 at 10:25 PM

With Obama as President the whole world loves us, repects us and just wants everything to be unicorns and tulip fields for the US.

RJL on September 13, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Politico will soon have story up saying China is doing this because they are convinced Romney will lose, or something.

farsighted on September 13, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Time for the Foreign-Policy President and Hillary to huddle. Quickly.

Can’t. Got a fundraiser and a tee time.

-Barry

parteagirl on September 13, 2012 at 10:25 PM

paging hussein obama, paging…your lab made testicles and spine are ready……This weekend is NRA weekend at Cabellas….stock up

crosshugger on September 13, 2012 at 10:26 PM

The main picture on Drudge right now captures it all, correct that, captures the vacuum of leadership overall.

TXUS on September 13, 2012 at 10:26 PM

This is definitely not our business.

The Chinese don’t like the Japanese. Look up “Rape of Nanking” on Twitter.

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:26 PM

So how do the Clinton’s attempt to extricate themselves from this disaster?

Mark1971 on September 13, 2012 at 10:27 PM

So it looks like China too has concluded that Jackass is a weakling president that may be on his way out, and they have an opportunity to advance their goals while Jackass is partying with Beyonce.

slickwillie2001 on September 13, 2012 at 10:24 PM

The Chinese population feel extremely emotional about this issue, especially concerning the Japanese stepping on their toes.

No love lost, to say the least. The Japanese will either back down or they are going to get wacked.

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM

A State Department official told a Japanese news agency in July that the islands do fall under Article 5, so either the U.S. will be drawn in here on Japan’s side or else it’ll break the treaty to avoid a confrontation with China. (What that would mean for further Chinese aggression in the East China Sea, including Taiwan, who knows?)

…We have a State Department? Kiss your lands goodbye Japan!

KOOLAID2 on September 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM

US Diplomatic Missions on Lock Down!

Why are they STILL there? In the midst of what will become a bloodbath tomorrow and thru th weekend?

Get our people the hell out of there!!

Scrumpy on September 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Obama is so over his head.

MrX on September 13, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Check out Drudge. They knew two days before that the attack would be coming, yet did nothing.

Our country has zero leadership. We are phucked.

the new aesthetic on September 13, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Is there some reason Japan and China can’t work this one out on their own?

JohnGalt23 on September 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Yes, our word as allies would be worthless.

Were you serious?

fossten on September 13, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Would be a big mistake to see this through American eyes. This is between the Japanese, the Chinese, and who ever else claims these islands.

We need to keep our noses out of it.

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:29 PM

No way China starts a war over this cheap real estate. A little saber-rattling can’t hurt, though, they know our CIC is MIA. If the election was in the bag for Obama, what’s going on right now with the Mid-East and China probably wouldn’t be happening. They know he’s weak and they know he’s not going to put himself in front of these things at the moment, not when Obama is preoccupied with the election and Vegas fundraisers.

Corporal Tunnel on September 13, 2012 at 10:30 PM

…Falkland Islands…next!
Sorry England!

KOOLAID2 on September 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:29 PM

It’s a simple world if you have a simple mind, isn’t it?

Corporal Tunnel on September 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM

It’s a simple world if you have a simple mind, isn’t it?

Corporal Tunnel on September 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Yes, how does it feel to have a simple mind?

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Politico will soon have story up saying China is doing this because they are convinced Romney will lose, or something.

farsighted on September 13, 2012 at 10:25 PM

:)

Axe on September 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM

China, and everyone else in the world know we are “Soft” and have a weakling for president. Watch the grab bag free for all begin world wide. No nation will take a chance on the fact that Romney may win. Now they will grab everything they can on OBAMA’S WATCH KNOWING THAT THE NEXT ‘PRESIDENT WILL HAVE A HARD TIME ROLLING THESE COMING EVENTS BACK AND CHANGING THE SOON TO BE, “FACTS ON THE GROUND. (OR SEA.”) And we thought Jimmy carter was soft!

blogforce one on September 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM

No way China starts a war over this cheap real estate.

Corporal Tunnel on September 13, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Oil and natural gas tends to motivate some folks, and its not cheap last time I looked.

sharrukin on September 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Yes, how does it feel to have a simple mind?

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Gooder.

Axe on September 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Time for the Foreign-Policy President and Hillary to huddle. Quickly.

Or, failing that, some embassy staffer can always put out a press release on his own.

malclave on September 13, 2012 at 10:34 PM

So….. I guess this would be a great time for Russia to flex its muscle in Gerogia or Eastern Europe. I’m think China smelled blood after the very weak response to the ki8llings of our people in the middle east. If I was Putin I would push as hard as I could until I met resistence . Hell who knows with this POTUS Putin could take back all of the iron curtain before Obama figured out who was and wasn’t our allies.

unseen on September 13, 2012 at 10:34 PM

So how do the Clinton’s attempt to extricate themselves from this disaster?

Mark1971 on September 13, 2012 at 10:27 PM

With the help of their army , led by General Chris Mathews

burrata on September 13, 2012 at 10:34 PM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ?

Axe on September 13, 2012 at 10:19 PM

来て、それを取る

To be fair, that’s a lazy Babelfish translation. I’m a little too rusty on my 日本語 to do it on my own.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 13, 2012 at 10:35 PM

wouldn’t surprise me to see Russia invade Czechoslovakia in the next few days… or Pak

equanimous on September 13, 2012 at 10:35 PM

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM

You guys think it’s so easy. If we just quit ‘intervening’ the world would love us. You should understand that complacency is why we’re here today. If we leave a power vacuum in Asia, China will fill it. Your world is an obtainable idealism and you’ll never get it.

Corporal Tunnel on September 13, 2012 at 10:35 PM

No way China starts a war over this cheap real estate.

Guess you haven’t noticed the popular protests in central China against the Japanese house arrest of the Chinese protesters who swam to the island.

Chinas blood is up over this…..not the just the Chinese governments blood.

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:35 PM

…Falkland Islands…next!
Sorry England!

KOOLAID2 on September 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Errr…they are called the Maldives now ;-)

burrata on September 13, 2012 at 10:35 PM

China, and everyone else in the world know we are “Soft” and have a weakling for president. Watch the grab bag free for all begin world wide. No nation will take a chance on the fact that Romney may win. Now they will grab everything they can on OBAMA’S WATCH KNOWING THAT THE NEXT ‘PRESIDENT WILL HAVE A HARD TIME ROLLING THESE COMING EVENTS BACK AND CHANGING THE SOON TO BE, “FACTS ON THE GROUND. (OR SEA.”) And we thought Jimmy carter was soft!

blogforce one on September 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM

It’s a win-win for them. Even if Obama wins he will do nothing but say how sorry he was that America held them back for so long.

unseen on September 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM

This has been part of Obama’s plan. Goodbye islands.

Didn’t Obama just give away 7 Alaskan islands to the Russians?

faraway on September 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM

equanimous on September 13, 2012 at 10:35 PM

…istan invade Kashmir

equanimous on September 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM

With Obama as President the whole world loves us, repects us and just wants everything to be unicorns and tulip fields for the US.

RJL on September 13, 2012 at 10:25 PM

You forgot to mention the unicorn skittle-sh!tting part.

Sasha List on September 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM

England is just a small island.

faraway on September 13, 2012 at 10:37 PM

The Chinese population feel extremely emotional about this issue, especially concerning the Japanese stepping on their toes.

No love lost, to say the least. The Japanese will either back down or they are going to get wacked.

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM

The Chinese leadership could care less about this but will use it to gin up their population. What the leadership there cares about is whether they’re going get paid back in real dollars on the huge debt they hold against us, or significantly inflated dollars due to Obama’s and Bernanke’s money printing. Their moves against Japan, and maybe in the next few weeks against Taiwan, will be aimed to get assurances from Obama that they will get paid back in real dollars, inflation adjusted, if necessary. This will roil the markets big time.

TXUS on September 13, 2012 at 10:37 PM

I am surprised Amadineajacket hasn’t come forth to bleat that this is the coming of their…. oh someone help me! Some prophet or somthing to herald in the end of times… that’s his schtick…

Scrumpy on September 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM

The 12th Imam ??
According to Glenn Beck, ROMNEY is well versed in this possible scenario.
Preezy ? Possibly, but he’d be cheering for it !

pambi on September 13, 2012 at 10:37 PM

We have a large military presence in Okinawa and mainland Japan. It isn’t like we don’t have an interest in this conflict. Well we do, but Obama doesn’t.

conservative pilgrim on September 13, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Meh, I wouldn’t worry about it, it’s not like China has any collateral over us. Wait..

the new aesthetic on September 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM

You guys think it’s so easy. If we just quit ‘intervening’ the world would love us. You should understand that complacency is why we’re here today. If we leave a power vacuum in Asia, China will fill it. Your world is an obtainable idealism and you’ll never get it.

Corporal Tunnel on September 13, 2012 at 10:35 PM

The Chinese can have Afcrapistan. Iraq too.

VorDaj on September 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM

I’m thinking a campaign event in Atlantic City will send a clear message to China and Japan!!

ButterflyDragon on September 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Chinas blood is up over this…..not the just the Chinese governments blood.

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:35 PM

since China is a communist nation and their media is owned by the state. Whatever is being reported to get thier blood up iswhat the government wants reported. China is going to war. It is the nature of man. China will flex their power. And we are powerless to stop them since our entire manufacturing base was shipped to China for the cheaper costs. What will we do. If we defend Japan China shuts off trade. Their economy is in the crapper. they have millions of young males unemployed. If they don’t give the people something to focus on the people will focus on their government and condition. It is why always during world wide economic stagnation nations go to war.

unseen on September 13, 2012 at 10:40 PM

I wonder if the Morning Zoo on 102.7 FM Des Moines will ask Obama about this tomorrow.

Mark1971 on September 13, 2012 at 10:41 PM

This is were the real interest of the U.S. are in the 21st century, not in some middle east hellhole.

William Eaton on September 13, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Would be a big mistake to see this through American eyes. This is between the Japanese, the Chinese, and who ever else claims these islands.

We need to keep our noses out of it.

rickyricardo on September 13, 2012 at 10:29 PM

We have a treaty with Japan to defend them if they’re attacked. You’re suggesting we just ignore that? Smart power…

joejm65 on September 13, 2012 at 10:41 PM

The 12th Imam ??
According to Glenn Beck, ROMNEY is well versed in this possible scenario.
Preezy ? Possibly, but he’d be cheering for it !

pambi on September 13, 2012 at 10:37 PM

If you read about the 12th imam. He sounds an awful lot like our antichrist.

unseen on September 13, 2012 at 10:42 PM

unseen on September 13, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Silly

As much as we need China, they need us more. They’re not going to war over these islands.

ButterflyDragon on September 13, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Good Solid B-Plus on September 13, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Excellent. :) That’s exactly what I wanted to do. But I can only cave Japanese, in Latin Kanji.

Undousuru!

Axe on September 13, 2012 at 10:42 PM

The Chinese can have Afcrapistan. Iraq too.

VorDaj on September 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM

They don’t have the hegemony for that yet. But they have been making quite a few moves in their own back yard lately. If you think a Chinese hegemony is a good idea, you’d be betting on disaster.

The world has stayed together after the Cold War because the U.S. has had a proactive role in policing it. Sure, with a bit of reluctance, but it’s falling apart because we’ve aloof for the past 4 years.

It’s easy to think we should ‘leave that crazy part of the world’, but if it were easy, we’d already be gone. That’s what you don’t understand. And yes, our complacency would mean that a lot of people would die, including Americans. In fact, Americans died 2 days ago because of it.

Corporal Tunnel on September 13, 2012 at 10:45 PM

The South China Seas War is not going to be pretty.

rbj on September 13, 2012 at 10:25 PM


China knows there is going to be more coming …

Does anyone think the timing of this action, the Arab uprisings against our embassies, and the impending war between Israel & Iran is accidental ???

China is very upset with Ben Bernanke’s Inflate-athon announced today – especially since it’s an anniversary of sorts:

On September 13, 2008, Timothy F. Geithner, then president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York called a meeting on the future of Lehman, which included the possibility of an emergency liquidation of its assets.[15] Lehman reported that it had been in talks with Bank of America and Barclays for the company’s possible sale.[15] The New York Times reported on September 14, 2008, that Barclays had ended its bid to purchase all or part of Lehman and a deal to rescue the bank from liquidation collapsed.[16] It emerged subsequently that a deal had been vetoed by the Bank of England and the UK’s Financial Services Authority.[17] Leaders of major Wall Street banks continued to meet late that day to prevent the bank’s rapid failure.[16] Bank of America’s rumored involvement also appeared to end as federal regulators resisted its request for government involvement in Lehman’s sale.[16]

Lehman Brothers filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on September 15, 2008. According to Bloomberg, reports filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Southern District of New York (Manhattan) on September 16 indicated that JPMorgan Chase & Co. provided Lehman Brothers with a total of $138 billion in “Federal Reserve-backed advances.” The cash-advances by JPMorgan Chase were repaid by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York for $87 billion on September 15 and $51 billion on September 16.[18]

Yep! This is all coincidental. Just like us having a President too busy to meet with the Israeli Prime Minister but NOT too busy to meet with the head of the Muslim Brotherhood.

PolAgnostic on September 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Dog Boy will get right on this, but first an interview by Pimp With A Limp.

Bishop on September 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Silly

As much as we need China, they need us more. They’re not going to war over these islands.

ButterflyDragon on September 13, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Many wars start because of a lack of clear understanding of whats involved. Iraq invaded Kuwait thinking that the US would accept that. Argentina invaded the Falklands thinking that Britain had seen its best days and would not fight.

This also assumes the US would fight for those islands. With Obama in charge I have my doubts.

sharrukin on September 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I’m thinking a campaign event in Atlantic City will send a clear message to China and Japan!!

ButterflyDragon on September 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Maybe the Mooch will attend that event in a kimono,
to send a message of support to the Japanese .

burrata on September 13, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Looks like that Mayan calendar thingy might be onto something.

RovesChins on September 13, 2012 at 10:49 PM

sharrukin on September 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM

It’s just saber-rattling. They are stirring up Nationalistic sentiment amongst their own population against their old nemesis. Interior Politics to prop up the commies.

Corporal Tunnel on September 13, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Bishop on September 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Teh Sarah is strong in you.

renalin on September 13, 2012 at 10:50 PM

The only thing stopping China right now… is Hillary Clinton.

faraway on September 13, 2012 at 10:50 PM

I see the Goofey Johnson trolls have clocked in. Oh Joy.

slickwillie2001 on September 13, 2012 at 10:50 PM

unseen on September 13, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Yups.
Encouraging, eh ?

pambi on September 13, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Poor Barry. Another day, another crisis.

HEY! Maybe Barry will side with the Chinese in exchange for a couple trillion in cash.

Given his past track record of support for “allies”, I’m sure the Japanese aren’t sleeping well.

GarandFan on September 13, 2012 at 10:52 PM

As much as we need China, they need us more. They’re not going to war over these islands.

ButterflyDragon on September 13, 2012 at 10:42 PM

they don’t need us. they have over a billion consumers inhouse. Our 300million now that we have allowed our wealth to flee to china no longer matters in the grand scheme of things. We are for a better phrase “just another marketplace” that can be replaced. China has the technology, the education and now the wealth to fully fund their own economy. That was after all the entire reason behind our forgiegn policy towards China and other 3rd world nations for the last 40 odd years. Build them up and get them out of poverty and bring our own standard of living down. the thinking was that wars were due to the inequility in wealth and goods. the theory went if you took away those inequalities wars would be a thing of the past. The same people think the same about religion and thus the war on christianity in the west over the same time period. The theory is proving to be full of crap. But any thinking person knew that when Nixion went to China.

unseen on September 13, 2012 at 10:52 PM

hearing the Twitter rumors on another thread, i mistakenly thought it was the Spratly Islands at issue.

Different story.

these islands?

Not our business. It’s between China and Japan. We should stay out. Wasn’t Japanese until they seized it at the beginning of their big militaristic push that included the rape of China.

Not our business.

On this one, we pop popcorn.

cane_loader on September 13, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Yups.
Encouraging, eh ?

pambi on September 13, 2012 at 10:51 PM

makes one want to get on their knees and pray very very hard.

unseen on September 13, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Is there some reason Japan and China can’t work this one out on their own?

JohnGalt23 on September 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

At least 2:

1) The US and Japan have a mutual defense treaty.

2) The Senkaku islands were occupied by the US until being turned over to Japan in 1972.

DarkCurrent on September 13, 2012 at 10:54 PM

HEY! Maybe Barry will side with the Chinese in exchange for a couple trillion in cash.

GarandFan on September 13, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Obama, starring in Chinese Pawn Stars!

faraway on September 13, 2012 at 10:54 PM

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