Diplomatic sources: State Department had credible intel 48 hours before attacks that U.S. embassies might be targeted; Update: White House denies

posted at 9:03 pm on September 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

I’m looking forward to having it explained to me on the news tomorrow why this is all a misunderstanding and not a very big deal at all.

Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and “lockdown”, under which movement is severely restricted

According to security sources the consulate had been given a “health check” in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary. In the event, the perimeter was breached within 15 minutes of an angry crowd starting to attack it at around 10pm on Tuesday night. There was, according to witnesses, little defence put up by the 30 or more local guards meant to protect the staff. Ali Fetori, a 59-year-old accountant who lives near by, said: “The security people just all ran away and the people in charge were the young men with guns and bombs.”

I’m awfully curious to hear how thorough that “health check” was given how quickly consulate security crumbled. Two thoughts here. One: While the bit about credible information is new and important, you don’t need that detail to know that Obama and his team dropped the ball on protecting the consulate. We already know there were no Marines stationed there; even the locals couldn’t believe how lightly guarded the building was. There’s no earthly reason for security to be that thin on 9/11, especially when jihadis had targeted the consulate and other western diplomats in Benghazi before. Two: I wonder if the “credible information” described in the piece has something to do with the Zawahiri video eulogizing Abu Yahya al-Libi, a top AQ chieftain from Libya. The video appeared on jihadi websites on Tuesday to coincide with 9/11, but intel experts who watch those sites sometimes see new material show up on their servers in advance. If they knew that a new Zawahiri video was coming on 9/11, that alone might have been reason to think Al Qaeda was out for revenge and eager to make a splash against U.S. interests somewhere on the anniversary. Is that the sort of intel we’re dealing with here or do they mean something more concrete and specific about a planned attack?

While we’re on the subject of Obama’s foreign-policy failures, here’s a blast from the past for longtime HA readers:

An Iraqi militia that carried out some of the most prominent attacks on foreigners during the Iraq war on Thursday threatened U.S. interests in the country over a film that has triggered protests in Libya, Egypt and Yemen.

“The offence caused to the messenger (Prophet Mohammad) will put all American interests in danger and we will not forgive them for that,” said Qais al-Khazali, leader of the Asaib al-Haq militia.

That’s the same Qais Khazali who led Iran’s “Special Groups” in Iraq, and who allegedly masterminded the famous 2007 operation in Karbala in which five U.S. servicemen were captured and executed. He was captured by American troops two months later. So why’s he back on the streets now and threatening to kill people over the Mohammed movie, you ask? Because, silly: We let him go as part of a prisoner exchange in 2009, over the strenuous objections of some military officers. Remember that, because Khazali’s expertly trained and sufficiently ruthless that he’s capable of following through on his threats in spectacular fashion. You might be seeing his name in the news again soon.

Exit question: Any word from the White House on whether Obama regrets not attending a daily intel briefing since September 5? I know he supposedly reads his briefing instead, but he’s been super busy lately doing interviews with morning-show DJs and scheduling appearances on Letterman, so maybe he hasn’t had time.

Update: It’s a big ol’ lie, says the White House.

The Obama administration is flatly denying a blaring British newspaper report that the U.S. diplomats in Libya were killed as a result of a “continuing security breach,” and that “credible information” about possible attacks had been ignored.

A U.S. official told POLITICO: “There’s no intelligence indicating that the attack in Benghazi was premeditated.”…

Shawn Turner, spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, emailed: “This is absolutely wrong. We are not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent.”

The Independent didn’t claim that the intelligence said there’d be an attack on the Benghazi consulate specifically. It claimed that American missions generally, including the one in Benghazi, could be targeted. The point is, security should have been ramped up at U.S. missions worldwide. Why didn’t that happen in Benghazi?


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If you actually think he cares one whit about these dead Americans except to use as a tool for re-election, then I applaud your naivete.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 13, 2012 at 11:13 PM

look, it’s your hatred talking. why would he not care?

also, too, “i applaud your naivete” sounds like something conspiracy nuts say.

sesquipedalian on September 13, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Dante on September 13, 2012 at 11:39 PM

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I heard this as well, and it makes more sense than this “outrage” over an irreverent movie.

listens2glenn on September 13, 2012 at 11:41 PM

he’s free write whatever demagoguery he wants, no?

sesquipedalian on September 13, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Actually, no. He is the president and is supposed to tell us the truth, but thank you for playing.

uncommon sense on September 13, 2012 at 11:45 PM

look, it’s your hatred talking. why would he not care?

also, too, “i applaud your naivete” sounds like something conspiracy nuts say.

sesquipedalian on September 13, 2012 at 11:40 PM

When has he ever demonstrated that he cares about anything except himself/his re-election?

It’s not a conspiracy. I don’t think he engineered this attack as a ploy to make him look good on foreign policy in the election run-up. He’s just a petty, self-interested narcissist who only cares about his own political future.

He’s your God-King, squishy. Own it.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 13, 2012 at 11:46 PM

How did PJ Media know something was up on September 10th and the State Department didn’t? http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/10/jihadis-threaten-to-burn-u-s-embassy-in-cairo/

Can’t they even Google to see if their lie holds up under any scrutiny? FFS.

bamapachyderm on September 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM

that’s not funny at this time.

GhoulAid on September 13, 2012 at 10:57 PM

…no it’s not! I think that happened to a couple of our people…and you can bet these clowns won’t report it!…it happened to Muammar Gaddafi…and they would only admit to him “being shot”! I’m angry as he11!

KOOLAID2 on September 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM

When has he ever demonstrated that he cares about anything except himself/his re-election?

Good Solid B-Plus on September 13, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Never.

It’s all Barack, all the time.

Wendya on September 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Can’t they even Google to see if their lie holds up under any scrutiny? FFS.

bamapachyderm on September 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM

As long as they have a compliant media, they don’t need to.

Wendya on September 13, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Nice catch!

bileduct on September 13, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Hey, Norman!!! Should I catch and Release gallbladder here, or land him and make fillet-of…?

Del Dolemonte on September 13, 2012 at 11:54 PM

bluefox on September 13, 2012 at 10:10 PM

I want Bolton to be Romney’s Sec. of State. That guy knows his sh!t.

Hill60 on September 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Yes he does and he doesn’t back down. He tells it like it is.

I’m trying to get a couple of links for you regarding a couple questions you had up thread. Will be a few minutes.

bluefox on September 13, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Aaaaand HERE is the NEXT LINE FROM The MAINSTREAM TERRORIST MEDIA:

“The Libyan Embassy was ATTACKED BY GEORGE W. mmBOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!!

It was George W. mmBOOOOOOOOOSH that KILLED the AMBASSADOR!!!

Don’tcha mmmHAAAAAATE mmmBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH?!!!!

We NEED TO mmmHAAAAAATE mmmBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH?!!!!

I mmmHAAAAAATE mmmBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH?!!!!”

williamg on September 13, 2012 at 11:56 PM

I heard this as well, and it makes more sense than this “outrage” over an irreverent movie.

listens2glenn on September 13, 2012 at 11:41 PM

There’s no “outrage” about a movie.

These stoneage creatans are doing what they do best…

Burning flags, tearing down buildings, and killing people who they think has somehow dissed their prophet.

I’m really getting tired of this sh*t.

Can’t we just send a tomahawk over there and remind them who’s in charge?

Go for it lib’s, tell me what a islamaphob I am…

ccrosby on September 13, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Hannity is coming on now (ET) I want to watch McCain since someone said he got into it with Hannity. Also Palin is on first.

bluefox on September 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM

This should not come as a suprise…if you would only open your Eyes. Our economy is on the verge of collapse. They are trying to drag us into another war. Dont be suprised when they try and blame Iran. Another war will give them the political cover and allow them to shift blame for the collapse of the economy. They will use it to get rid of even more of our freedoms and unfortunately most of the sheeple out there will welcome it as they did the patriot act. Dont forget we helped Al Qeada into Lybia and Syria…it was by design. Now we have an enemy to go after and a reason to enter. The movie was the go signal….of course we knew it was going to happen, just in time for the election

dom89031 on September 14, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Hannity is coming on now (ET) I want to watch McCain since someone said he got into it with Hannity. Also Palin is on first.

bluefox on September 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I watched it, and posted on another thread how Hannity really took him to task. Normally Hannity is a lap dog to McLame, but he brought it to him, specifically about Lybia.

Interesting to watch.

ccrosby on September 14, 2012 at 12:06 AM

I’m really getting tired of this sh*t.

Can’t we just send a tomahawk over there and remind them who’s in charge?

Go for it lib’s, tell me what a islamaphob I am…

ccrosby on September 13, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I won’t call you an Islamaphobe…but I WILL call you selfish.

Why send just one, we got plenty…share.

ALL of them

BlaxPac on September 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM

bluefox on September 13, 2012 at 10:10 PM

I want Bolton to be Romney’s Sec. of State. That guy knows his sh!t.

Hill60 on September 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Yes he does and he doesn’t back down. He tells it like it is.

I’m trying to get a couple of links for you regarding a couple questions you had up thread. Will be a few minutes.

bluefox on September 13, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Agreed…Bolton is as solid as they come.

workingclass artist on September 14, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Can’t we just send a tomahawk over there and remind them who’s in charge?

ccrosby on September 13, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I think you missed the point:

“There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa’ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.”

And your answer is more bombs???

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM

How many intel briefing has he missed this week? And today?

Conservative4ev on September 14, 2012 at 12:18 AM


“…Update: White House denies”

Pantload…

Seven Percent Solution on September 14, 2012 at 12:18 AM

How did the militants know that Ambassador Stevens was in the consulate, and not in the Embassy? They had to have known well enough in advance, so they could have the assault team in place outside the proper residence.

Hill60 on September 13, 2012 at 10:11 PM

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/12/cbs-libyan-security-team-fingered-us-ambassador-to-be-killed/comment-page-5/#comments

http://drudgereport.com/

There are so many threads on HA and other sites, but that will give you a start.

bluefox on September 14, 2012 at 12:18 AM

I think you missed the point:

“There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa’ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.”

And your answer is more bombs???

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Should we drop birth certificates?

El_Terrible on September 14, 2012 at 12:19 AM

And your answer is more bombs???

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM

So now we let the judgement and reaction of radical murderers dictate our military and national security decisions.? Right…keep going with that.

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Can’t we just send a tomahawk over there and remind them who’s in charge?

Go for it lib’s, tell me what a islamaphob I am…

ccrosby on September 13, 2012 at 11:59 PM

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I won’t call you an Islamaphobe…but I WILL call you selfish.

Why send just one, we got plenty…share.

ALL of them…

BlaxPac on September 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM

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I like your thinking.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Can’t we just send a tomahawk over there and remind them who’s in charge?

ccrosby on September 13, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I think you missed the point:

“There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa’ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.”

And your answer is more bombs???

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM

No – now “just” “more bombs” —- but many, many, MANY MORE and much, much, MUCH BIGGER Bombs!

williamg on September 14, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Hill60 on September 13, 2012 at 10:11 PM

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/12/administration-officials-romney-was-right-that-statement-from-the-cairo-embassy-was-awful/

Read this comment: Baxter Greene on September 13, 2012 at 12:07 AM

bluefox on September 14, 2012 at 12:25 AM

And your answer is more bombs???

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM

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HANG Yeah ! ! !

It’s confrontation/domination time. Diplomatic tact is WASTED on these militant Islamists.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:27 AM

So now we let the judgement and reaction of radical murderers dictate our military and national security decisions.? Right…keep going with that.

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 12:22 AM

By radical murderers, are you referring to the United States government?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:29 AM

I think you missed the point:

“There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa’ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.”

And your answer is more bombs???

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM

So the enemy is upset with being bombed and you think that means we should stop bombing them?

Your entire mentality is one of groveling for the approval of those who despise our very existence. Are you going to commit suicide to make them happy, or just sit there demanding that the rest of us do it slowly with your absurd policies?

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:31 AM

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 12:22 AM

By radical murderers, are you referring to the United States government?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:29 AM

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No, he wasn’t . . . . . that would be YOU.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM

By radical murderers, are you referring to the United States government?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:29 AM

You need to retire to a monastery away from the sinful and violent ways of the world. Contemplate your navel in all its wonder, and leave this tragic vale of tears to the morally compromised like us.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:33 AM

So the enemy is upset with being bombed and you think that means we should stop bombing them?

Your entire mentality is one of groveling for the approval of those who despise our very existence. Are you going to commit suicide to make them happy, or just sit there demanding that the rest of us do it slowly with your absurd policies?

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:31 AM

We shouldn’t stop bombing because they’re upset; we should stop bombing because it’s the correct thing to do.

“Those who despise our very existence” … looks like someone’s been swallowing the propaganda.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:34 AM

You need to retire to a monastery away from the sinful and violent ways of the world. Contemplate your navel in all its wonder, and leave this tragic vale of tears to the morally compromised like us.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:33 AM

You’ve convinced me. I’ve seen the light.

We need to kill more civilians with unmanned drones. Screw ‘em all and kill ‘em all. No trials, no nothing. Just kill them. That’ll settle things once and for all.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

HANG Yeah ! ! !

It’s confrontation/domination time. Diplomatic tact is WASTED on these militant Islamists.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:27 AM

How Christian of you.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

We shouldn’t stop bombing because they’re upset; we should stop bombing because it’s the correct thing to do.

“Those who despise our very existence” … looks like someone’s been swallowing the propaganda.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:34 AM

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We keep telling you to stop listening to Ron Paul . . . . .

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:36 AM

I’m here for the chicks and that bean-dip AP makes. You know, the stuff with the layers, not that Salsa crap.

Mostly the chicks though.

Axe on September 13, 2012 at 10:12 PM

You charmer you.

Flora Duh on September 14, 2012 at 12:36 AM

I think you missed the point:

“There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa’ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.”

And your answer is more bombs???

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Yes.

You have a better idea?

ccrosby on September 14, 2012 at 12:36 AM

By radical murderers, are you referring to the United States government?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:29 AM

…this lowlife’s ^ ^ ^ lost it!…isolate the infidel!

KOOLAID2 on September 14, 2012 at 12:37 AM

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:27 AM

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How Christian of you.

Dante
on September 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

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Your opinion/views on what is or is not Christian be damned; it was an unprovoked act of WAR.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM

By radical murderers, are you referring to the United States government?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:29 AM

You have officially left the reservation. You are now anti-American.

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM

angryed territory.

Flora Duh on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Yes.

You have a better idea?

ccrosby on September 14, 2012 at 12:36 AM

I do.

Pull all of our troops and arsenals back home, close our bases, and tell them sorry for the mess and good luck.

Your opinion/views on what is or is not Christian be damned; it was an unprovoked act of WAR.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM

And that roused up your Christian bloodlust? You’re always talking god this and god that, but look how eager you are to kill indiscriminately.

You have officially left the reservation. You are now anti-American.

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM

I’m not too keen on my government killing innocent people, are you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Well Michelle O mentioned today that the greatest threat to national security is being fat. So rest easy America

Per drudge report

Conservative4ev on September 14, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Remember earlier this summer when Michelle Bachman was getting grief for suggesting that Muslim influence inside the administration be investigated? Do you think she just might have been on to something?

susandiane311 on September 14, 2012 at 12:46 AM

We shouldn’t stop bombing because they’re upset; we should stop bombing because it’s the correct thing to do.

Why shouldn’t we kill our enemies?

“Those who despise our very existence” … looks like someone’s been swallowing the propaganda.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Sura 9:5 When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.

1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adam…Upon inquiring “concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury”, the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

There is also something called History which you might find of use in evading the dark and scary shadows that confuse you.

Current affairs in the Sudan where millions are dead for the exact same reason might also interest you…or cause you to blithely ignore if its offends your delicate sensibilities.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM

We need to kill more civilians with unmanned drones. Screw ‘em all and kill ‘em all. No trials, no nothing. Just kill them. That’ll settle things once and for all.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Its a war not a courtroom drama.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:48 AM

We need to kill more civilians with unmanned drones. Screw ‘em all and kill ‘em all. No trials, no nothing. Just kill them. That’ll settle things once and for all.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Its a war not a courtroom drama.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:48 AM

War is hell brother

Conservative4ev on September 14, 2012 at 12:50 AM

I’m not too keen on my government killing innocent people, are you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

When did we start talking about innocent people?

ccrosby on September 14, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Pull all of our troops and arsenals back home, close our bases, and tell them sorry for the mess and good luck.

So we can live in peace with Muslims like little Denmark and never hear a…oh, wait?

I’m not too keen on my government killing innocent people, are you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Mohamed Hassan Qaid, an Islamist terrorist and leading high-ranking official within al-Qaeda is your definition of an innocent man?

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM

I’m not too keen on my government killing innocent people, are you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

When did we start talking about innocent people?

ccrosby on September 14, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Well then how do you think WWII

Conservative4ev on September 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM

War is hell brother

Conservative4ev on September 14, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Yup and we saw what ignoring the problem did on 911.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Your opinion/views on what is or is not Christian be damned; it was an unprovoked act of WAR.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM

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And that roused up your Christian bloodlust? You’re always talking god this and god that, but look how eager you are to kill indiscriminately.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

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Responding to an act of war doesn’t constitute “indiscriminate
killing.”
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You have officially left the reservation. You are now anti-American.
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weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM

I’m not too keen on my government killing innocent people, are you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

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It sucks when the enemy hides among the innocent, but YES.

Just like Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:54 AM

My saying in these things are ” you must burn the village in order to save it”. Destroy and rebuild it like Germany and Japan

Conservative4ev on September 14, 2012 at 12:54 AM

When did we start talking about innocent people?

ccrosby on September 14, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Someone said, “So now we let the judgement and reaction of radical murderers dictate our military and national security decisions.”

We’ve killed, injured, and maimed innocents without cause and without trial, including those attending funerals and weddings. That sounds like murder by radicals to me.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:57 AM

I’m not too keen on my government killing innocent people, are you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

I’m not too keen on radicals killing innocent Americans, are you?

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 12:57 AM

By radical murderers, are you referring to the United States government?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Wow.. just wow. Talk about pathetic, self loathing and lost.

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 12:57 AM

We should just pack up, withdraw our foreign aid and get the hell out of the entire middle east…Problem solved!

dom89031 on September 14, 2012 at 12:57 AM

It sucks when the enemy hides among the innocent, but YES.

Just like Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Just to be clear, you are answering YES to your being keen on our government killing innocent people.

And you call yourself a Christian????

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:58 AM

I’m not too keen on radicals killing innocent Americans, are you?

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Nope. I’m not keen on murder at all, no matter who commits it.

Why?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Someone said, “So now we let the judgement and reaction of radical murderers dictate our military and national security decisions.”

We’ve killed, injured, and maimed innocents without cause and without trial, including those attending funerals and weddings. That sounds like murder by radicals to me.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:57 AM

The enemy attacks us, and hides among innocents, the enemy attacks us and celebrates, among innocents. And when we respond, we are the radical murderers. You are a sick and twisted individual. So do you think that military action is ever justified? Just wondering..

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 12:59 AM

More trolls=Obama and Hillary majorly screwed up. They are both frauds and amateurs, so no surprise there.

Christien on September 14, 2012 at 12:59 AM

We should just pack up, withdraw our foreign aid and get the hell out of the entire middle east…Problem solved!

dom89031 on September 14, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Denmark.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:59 AM

I’m not too keen on my government killing innocent people, are you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

I can’t even wait for your answer..innocent people? How about the Ambassadors family, who have to hear about the atrocities this poor man went though? Or the others who dies FOR NO F’ING reason other than it was 9/11. And those GD SOB’s want nothing else other than to kill us.

Whatever, with you Holier than busllshit, I’m so tired of your, “we can be better crap”.

Fine you go to Bengahzi and stand attention, ahole!

ccrosby on September 14, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Let’s not forget Coventry where Churchill had to sacrifice that city to preserve the fact that the Allies had cracked Ultra. Sometimes the innocents one has to sacrfice in war can sometimes be your own.

All the more reason to have an adult as CINC instead of Obungler.

viking01 on September 14, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Mohamed Hassan Qaid, an Islamist terrorist and leading high-ranking official within al-Qaeda is your definition of an innocent man?

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM

It’s funny how we always find these Number 2 guys. I’ve never seen so many Number 2s. Pretty convenient, though, when it’s the government who gets to define them and kill them. Or is it kill them and then define them?

But no, I was not referring to him.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:01 AM

bluefox on September 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Ah flock, I forgot to get Levin’s take on it tonight. I can’t get Rush out here where I’m at so I’ll need to catch the transcripts somewhere, or at least get the highlights. At least Drudge is always available and he has reach that the leftists can only dream about.

Bishop on September 13, 2012 at 10:37 PM

You may be on the QOTD thread by now. If you see this let me know if you listen online for Rush/Levin. I do when my local radio station has baseball on:-)

bluefox on September 14, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Just to be clear, you are answering YES to your being keen on our government killing innocent people.

And you call yourself a Christian????

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:58 AM

I’m keen on our government taking the fight to radical fundamentalist murderers like the ones that killed our people in Libya. Like the ones that murdered 3000 people on 9/11, like the ones that blew up our embassies. I guess if they hide among “innocents” we should never retaliate, and just let them keep escalating the attacks.

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 1:02 AM

sesquipedalian,

For eight years you liberals blamed President Bush for every perceived misstep in the war of terror. How in good conscience can you now completely absolve Obama of any responsibility in his handling of this.

hawkdriver on September 14, 2012 at 1:02 AM

We’ve killed, injured, and maimed innocents without cause and without trial, including those attending funerals and weddings. That sounds like murder by radicals to me.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:57 AM

You are free to pack up and move to Switzerland at any time. Then you need only worry about the peaceful Iranians protesting outside of your embassy.

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 1:03 AM

It sucks when the enemy hides among the innocent, but YES.

Just like Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki.

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Just to be clear, you are answering YES to your being keen on our government killing innocent people.

And you call yourself a Christian????

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:58 AM

You need to retire to a monastery away from the sinful and violent ways of the world. Contemplate your navel in all its wonder, and leave this tragic vale of tears to the morally compromised like us.

I repeat this advice because you are eerily like some medieval priest ranting against the terrible things that happen when men go to war. A modern day Quacker (or is that Quaker?), too pure for the world.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

The enemy attacks us, and hides among innocents, the enemy attacks us and celebrates, among innocents. And when we respond, we are the radical murderers. You are a sick and twisted individual. So do you think that military action is ever justified? Just wondering..

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 12:59 AM

I’m not the one murdering innocent people nor am I the one cheering on my government to bomb the hell out of a region, or turn it into glass, or to say we need “many, many, MANY MORE and much, much, MUCH BIGGER Bombs!” So no, I am not the one who is a sick and twisted individual.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

“AYE, Laddie……….

mmmBut DO YA mmmHAAAAAAAAAATE mmmBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH?!!!!!”

williamg on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

RELEASE THE NEWT !

pambi on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

You are free to pack up and move to Switzerland at any time. Then you need only worry about the peaceful Iranians protesting outside of your embassy.

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Why should I be the one to leave and not you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

But no, I was not referring to him.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:01 AM

So you mean those poor people rioting and storming the embassies?

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 1:05 AM

A Christian hates what God hates, and Islam is just about #1 on that list, Dante.

pambi on September 14, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Why?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Indeed.

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 1:06 AM

So no, I am not the one who is a sick and twisted individual.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

No of course not.

You are the one who is willing to buy his purity with the blood of his own people.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 1:07 AM

I’m keen on our government taking the fight to radical fundamentalist murderers like the ones that killed our people in Libya. Like the ones that murdered 3000 people on 9/11, like the ones that blew up our embassies. I guess if they hide among “innocents” we should never retaliate, and just let them keep escalating the attacks.

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 1:02 AM

The people who murdered those 3000 were suicide bombers; they killed themselves in the attacks. There is no one out there in the world who is responsible for those attacks that has not been killed or captured. That’s the beautiful thing about a War on Terror, you know. Terror is an abstraction that allows one to constantly redefine a nebulous enemy to include whomever you wish, and to continue the funding for the war machine; it’s ever expansive. Very, very convenient.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:07 AM

-When you get a warning about Crazed Muzzies on the loose, you have to take that sh1t seriously.

Opinionnation on September 14, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

THREE words : Enola Gay

pambi on September 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM

I’m not the one murdering innocent people nor am I the one cheering on my government to bomb the hell out of a region, or turn it into glass, or to say we need “many, many, MANY MORE and much, much, MUCH BIGGER Bombs!” So no, I am not the one who is a sick and twisted individual.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

No, what you are, is a pathetic coward. Making a military response in an on going war is not murder, its the hell of war, a war that these people are hell bent on continuing in perpetuity.Why, because they despise our freedoms. They hide among their own populace and force collateral damage to make pathetic wimps like you cry out about innocents dying. You are noting more than a useful idiot for the enemy of your country. Congratulations.

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM

No of course not.

You are the one who is willing to buy his purity with the blood of his own people.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Nope. We shouldn’t have had any diplomatic presence in Libya to begin with. Of course, I’m sure you remember that we continued our foreign policy of military interventionism by invading Libya last year.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM

hawkdriver on September 14, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Easy. Sesq doesn’t care one whit for the troops or others serving our country abroad. There is only the will to attain and hold onto power.

Christien on September 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM

Why should I be the one to leave and not you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

I’m not too keen on my government killing innocent people, are you?

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Why woud you want to say? Our country obviously does not subscribe to your set of values.

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 12:54 AM

.
Just to be clear, you are answering YES to your being keen on our government killing innocent people.

And you call yourself a Christian????

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:58 AM

.
“Tolerant” is not equal to “keen”.

When an act of war is perpetrated against you, it becomes a “necessary evil.” Until those who have declared war on you, are beaten. Period.
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( and yes, I still call myself a Christian )

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM

sharrukin on September 14, 2012

Yeah, because extremist muslims are attacking Americans over here by the dozens right??

dom89031 on September 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM

So no, I am not the one who is a sick and twisted individual.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

No of course not.

You are the one who is willing to buy his purity with the blood of his own people.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Very acutely stated. Wise words to the Pollyannish Anti-War crowd.

hawkdriver on September 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Why, because they despise our freedoms.

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM

LOL. WOW. I didn’t think there was anyone still around who believed that bogus propaganda, let alone two people.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Well then how do you think WWII

Conservative4ev on September 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Wait a minute, have we become so naive to think that there will not be innocent casualties in a war for the common good?

OK, I’m physic, and hear you next question: “What if were me or my family?”

My answer is, if it makes our country stronger for future generations, count me in.

I guess that makes a lot of you laugh, which is very sad.

ccrosby on September 14, 2012 at 1:11 AM

The people who murdered those 3000 were suicide bombers; they killed themselves in the attacks. There is no one out there in the world who is responsible for those attacks that has not been killed or captured.

Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Destroying the Japanese fleet that carried out the attack and killing the enemy commanders who ordered it would have meant nothing.

The world is not as simple as you are demanding.

That’s the beautiful thing about a War on Terror, you know. Terror is an abstraction that allows one to constantly redefine a nebulous enemy to include whomever you wish, and to continue the funding for the war machine; it’s ever expansive. Very, very convenient.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Yes it is convenient because it allows one to avoid naming who the enemy actually is. Islam in all its glory. Thats why we are fighting this abstraction as you call it, because our politicians are too gutless to face the truth about the nature of our enemy. A cowardice that you share.

sharrukin on September 14, 2012 at 1:12 AM

“Tolerant” is not equal to “keen”.

When an act of war is perpetrated against you, it becomes a “necessary evil.” Until those who have declared war on you, are beaten. Period.
.
( and yes, I still call myself a Christian )

listens2glenn on September 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM

A necessary evil. So not only have you said that YES, you are keen on murdering innocent people, you are also saying, as a Christian, that you must sometimes embrace evil because it’s necessary. And then you say you still call yourself a Christian.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:13 AM

LOL. WOW. I didn’t think there was anyone still around who believed that bogus propaganda, let alone two people.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM

2>1.
Dante=1

weaselyone on September 14, 2012 at 1:13 AM

And that roused up your Christian bloodlust? You’re always talking god this and god that, but look how eager you are to kill indiscriminately.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

The muslims raped,tortured, and murdered an Americn ambassador, and you have the nerve to talk about Christian bloodlust, which only exists in your mind.

Don’t talk about how Christians should act when you give a pass to these muslim monsters. As somebody who hates Christians, you don’t get to dictate what a good Christian is.

I bet that you fully expect a good Christian to turn the other cheek and to accept servitude from these muslims. Yes, these peace-loving muslims who enslaved Christians as the spoils of war: women and girls as sex slaves; boys as child soldiers.

Kyle_Reese on September 14, 2012 at 1:13 AM

The people who murdered those 3000 were suicide bombers; they killed themselves in the attacks. There is no one out there in the world who is responsible for those attacks that has not been killed or captured. That’s the beautiful thing about a War on Terror, you know. Terror is an abstraction that allows one to constantly redefine a nebulous enemy to include whomever you wish, and to continue the funding for the war machine; it’s ever expansive. Very, very convenient.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Well, more and more you show your ignorance on the subject. I’d say its pretty damned inconvenient. You know what Al’Qaeda means don’t you? You know what it stands for, right? It means “the base”. From that center, many groups grow, mutate, form their own groups, all for the same purpose, to perpetrate acts of violence and murder and terror all over the world.

All of them have been held accountable? Really? Have you heard the name Ayman al-Zawahiri? You truly are clueless.

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Muslims do hate our forms of freedom. Bogus propaganda indeed.

hawkdriver on September 14, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM

WAKE UP, MAN !!!

pambi on September 14, 2012 at 1:15 AM

LOL. WOW. I didn’t think there was anyone still around who believed that bogus propaganda, let alone two people.

Dante on September 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Bogus propaganda? The entire Arab world is a flame because someone in this country exercised their freedom of speech.

Wow, you really are.. ignorant.

ShadowsPawn on September 14, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Is a little Sharia okay?

hawkdriver on September 14, 2012 at 1:17 AM

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