Joint Chiefs chair’s newest duty: Phoning Terry Jones and begging him not to antagonize Muslims

posted at 6:37 pm on September 12, 2012 by Allahpundit

It’s not clear what role Jones had, if any, in producing the Mohammed film that’s got Islamists in a lather but he’s been promoting it, so it’s time for the U.S. government to spring into action. Do note, this isn’t the first time he’s received a call from a top defense official. Bob Gates picked up the phone too and beseeched him not to burn the Koran two years ago when the last “Islam insulted” insanity was raging. Think about that. Think about how many civilians, in a country of 300 million people, have ever received a personal call from the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff asking them not to do something. Dempsey, in particular, likely spends most of his time these days gaming out an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities; he took precious time from doing that to phone some guy in Florida who’s somehow made it on the international media’s radar for his willingness to provoke. That’s how much of a geopolitical threat it’s become to the United States for even the most random Americans to affront Islamic sensibilities.

This madness must stop. Mario Loyola:

Nobody in the U.S. government, least of all the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff acting in his official capacity, should be calling Terry Jones or any other American citizen about the Mohammed spoof. Not only does that elevate Jones to some sort of semi-official status, but spoofs of deities are entirely within our rights and absolutely no business of the government’s. The U.S. government should not be taking an official position on the Mohammed spoof. It is entirely outside the official competence of United States military to be calling private citizens asking them be quiet, especially when they are exercising a constitutional right. Offending people is not an incitement to violence. Otherwise I could get everyone who wears a Che Guevara t-shirt brought up on charges of incitement…

Meanwhile, members of Congress should formally protest General Dempsey’s phone call to Terry Jones. I know Petraeus did it when Terry Jones was going to burn some Korans, but he was wrong then and General Dempsey is wrong now. In their private capacity they can make whatever phone calls they want. In their official capacity they have no business making phone calls like this.

Why anyone in the government would want to raise Jones’s profile this way is inexplicable. They’re creating a perverse incentive for copycat attention-seekers and provocateurs to follow his lead; we’ll get more Koran-burnings from indulging him, not less. And Loyola’s right that military leaders phoning citizens to ask them to pipe down for the sake of the troops sets a bad precedent. If more copycats do emerge, will Dempsey phone all of them? Will the Pentagon set up a special phone bank for officers to phone critics of Islam and let them know that they’re hurting national security by giving fundie nuts a pretext to make trouble? If we’re going down this road, let’s just establish a PR bureau inside the Defense Department to issue official statements of patriotic disapproval anytime a U.S. citizen says something that’s unhelpful to the wider strategy in the Middle East

The punchline here, by the way, is that the movie that’s got everyone all worked up appears to be a scam of some sort. Read BuzzFeed’s post on how some of the dialogue, including mentions of “Mohammed,” was overdubbed. No one seems to be able to find the filmmaker, “Sam Bacile,” either; he claims to be an Israeli Jew but, according to an associate who spoke to Jeffrey Goldberg, that’s not true. The cast and crew issued a statement today insisting that they were “grossly misled” about the film’s purpose, which jibes with the idea of the dialogue having possibly been overdubbed by “Bacile” in post-production. (Or maybe the case is just disowning the film because they’re now in fear for their lives.) “Bacile” has given a few phone interviews already and been sharply critical of Islam so I don’t think this is a case of jihadis overdubbing the dialogue themselves to create a false-flag pretext for international Outrageous Outrage, but we’ll see. Stay tuned.


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They just showed a picture of Chris Stevens, being carried, as Hillary said. He looks like he was being dragged.
It also looks like he was already dead.
Now, live pictures.
Let these savages all starve to death. No more money to these killers. If our government doesn’t starve them, we starve the government at tax time.
This has to stop..giving money to these people.

RovesChins on September 12, 2012 at 7:10 PM

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CYA in Full Operation!!

Report: Actress in anti-Islam film tells Gawker she was deceived, didn’t know movie was about Islam – @Gawker

58 mins ago from gawker.com by editor

http://gawker.com/5942748/it-makes-me-sick-actress-in-muhammed-movie-says-she-was-deceived-had-no-idea-it-was-about-islam

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Damn Obama’s hide and his wHOLE regime!

And damn you HA for not posting this vid. sooner.

Actually, the vid makes good points about the truth of mohammed. The man, IF he existed at all, was no Jesus. Not a nice fellow at all.

Sherman1864 on September 12, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Our freaking government isn’t! Shame on the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff. Shame.

Weight of Glory on September 12, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Yes, it’s absurd. It tells us what the priorities of this administration are. First of all they think nothing of limiting a citizen’s right of free speech, and they have sadly told us that they are not in control of the situation. It’s easier to stomp on Americans than to stand up to terrorists. This is bad, very bad.

The movie isn’t the issue, really. It’s just the match to light a fire and provide an excuse for what looks to be a planned assassination.

The other thing that is noteworthy to me is that after bin Laden was taken out we were not allowed to see the photos as proof that he was, indeed, dead. Why? Not because they were too gruesome. It was fear on the part of the administration that it might offend muslims, incite riots, whatever.

And yet….. we have had photos of Amb. Stevens’ body shown for every American to see. No riots are planned as far as I know as a result of this atrocity.

Dhimmitude of the military as demonstrated by Gen. Dempsey is a direct result of Obama’s muslim sympathies. Our lives should not be tainted by the appeasement policies of a so-called leader who sides with our enemy.

It’s really time for a change of leadership. This sissy in the WH never had a pair, and he never will. Americans deserve much better than this constant bowing, scraping, appeasement and apology routine.

Cody1991 on September 12, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Damn Obama’s hide and his wHOLE regime!

And damn you HA for not posting this vid. sooner.

Actually, the vid makes good points about the truth of mohammed. The man, IF he existed at all, was no Jesus. Not a nice fellow at all.

Sherman1864 on September 12, 2012 at 7:11 PM

There is plenty of evidence that islam came into existence AFTER the arab conquests of the 7th century, not before…

No one has the guts to study it. Or publish the results.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:12 PM

What a demeaning task that has to be for a soldier to get an order like that . . . . “General, we need you to threaten this guy and stamp all over his first amendment rights. We don’t have the balls to do it ourselves.”

kens on September 12, 2012 at 7:14 PM

I suppose th JCS Chairman will be calling Eric Cartman next.

Curtiss on September 12, 2012 at 7:14 PM

He did what? gtr outta her.

jake49 on September 12, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Any Muslim leaders we can taunt via tweet? I’m ready to mock?

Charlemagne on September 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM

This Friday is supposed to be the big shebang.

Key West Reader on September 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Why buy when you can one for free?
freekoran.com

joeswampy on September 12, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Please tell me that the embassy was at least able to…retrieve the ambassadors body.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2012 at 7:17 PM

I could have shot a better movie with my cellphone camera.

Corporal Tunnel on September 12, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Where’s Ann Barnhardt when you need her?

LizardLips on September 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Think about this folks. Gen. Dempsey is a soldier! Not just any soldier, but the leading soldier in the United States. He’s supposed to be a warrior, with the warrior ethos, and the warrior code. We rely on our warrior class to protect us, to defend us against out enemies, to fight any threat to our freedoms, and to crush our enemies.

Some warrior! Some leader!

Trafalgar on September 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

I’m curious to know who in the Administration ordered the general to make the call.

Maybe Prissy Chrissie can try his hand at some insightful investigative journalism for once.

Liam on September 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

THIS is what they were rioting about? This badly created “movie” that was clearly done with a home video camera and Adobe’s movie editing software? Wow – and the MSM is making comparisons between Glenn Beck, every conservative Christian in the United States and the Muslims who rioted over THIS!

Here’s my response – where were the Christian riots when a major movie production studio created “The Last Temptation of Christ”? There were none. Protests – yes. Riots – no. Where were the riots among the Jewish people when the leader of Iran questioned whether the Holocaust actually occurred. Protests – yes. Riots – no. What is going on here? Why is the MSM not being taken to task over this nonsense and moral equivocation. I’m sorry, but anyone who makes the moral equivalent against any conservative (even fundamentalist) Christian today and these extremists is demonstrating their extreme prejudice of one religion over another.

studentofhistory on September 12, 2012 at 7:20 PM

a profile in courage. we have now surpassed the French for waving the white pucking flag every time some islamic pervert even threatens to do some sick depraved thing.

show these evil freaks you are weak and they’ll just do more of the same. show them you’ll kill them in piles if they dare attack our embassies- that’s effective foreign policy that will save american lives.

the result will be more dead americans, more dead ambassadors when it should have been mob mowed down without stopping to think about it for violating american soil at the embassies.

mittens on September 12, 2012 at 7:20 PM

This Friday is supposed to be the big shebang.

Key West Reader on September 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Sounds vaguely familiar. Islamic Student demonstrations at an embassy in the middle east. Can’t quite put my finger on it.

Curtiss on September 12, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Tony Blair: ‘The West is asleep on the issue of Islamist extremism’

the_nile on September 12, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Nice to see Mr Blair finally gaining the slightest glint of understanding; he being one of the people who made the UK’s Islam problem (and several other problems) very considerably worse. Unfortunately he still doesn’t have to suffer what his arrogant, ignorant, idealism has inflicted on millions of his compatriots. Then again, I suppose lots of them did vote for the man more than once.

YiZhangZhe on September 12, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Any Muslim leaders we can taunt via tweet? I’m ready to mock?

Charlemagne on September 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Start with Keith Ellison and that other moozie from IN ( forgot the name) , maybe we can see if they are really loyal to our country !

burrata on September 12, 2012 at 7:21 PM

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— Sep. 12 7:15 PM EDT
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canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Kudlow rocks. I love that guy and he’s hammering the hell out of Obama right now. You can tell he’s angry.

Watching Shepard Smith at this hour is a big mistake.

Django on September 12, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Shemp Smith is an a-hole.

slickwillie2001 on September 12, 2012 at 7:22 PM

I’m curious to know who in the Administration ordered the general to make the call.

Maybe Prissy Chrissie can try his hand at some insightful investigative journalism for once.

Liam on September 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

And what general would carry out that order? Demanding that an American cease to have his Constitutional freedoms to appease a foreign religion seems to be an oath violation does it not?

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

As much as the so-called “Christians” in the Phelps clan offend the hell out of me (a practicing Catholic), none of the things they do justifies killing.

[wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:03 PM]

I agree. I’m not sure if you misunderstood my reason for posting or you just used my comment as a seque to say something my comment prompted (I somtimes find myself using others’ comments to get my word in edgewise).

The point I was making was that I think there’s evidence to consider that this film was a false flag operation. The only aspect that goes against this possibility is the time it supposedly took to make it. One would think offhand a false flag operation wouldn’t be a long term operation.

Like I said, though, I agree with your sentiments.

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Why does Shep Smith still have a job?

The MSNBC roster too full? He goes out of his way to offend just about everyone not in the blue tribe.. then acts all Alfred E Neuman when they look at him like he just ate a bug.

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

…The inmates ARE running the asylum!…wearing stars too!

KOOLAID2 on September 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Start with Keith Ellison and that other moozie from IN ( forgot the name) , maybe we can see if they are really loyal to our country !

burrata on September 12, 2012 at 7:21 PM

They aren’t. You can’t be muslim and American. To be muslim means to be loyal to 6th century dark age barbarism.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM

I agree. I’m not sure if you misunderstood my reason for posting or you just used my comment as a seque to say something my comment prompted (I somtimes find myself using others’ comments to get my word in edgewise).

The point I was making was that I think there’s evidence to consider that this film was a false flag operation. The only aspect that goes against this possibility is the time it supposedly took to make it. One would think offhand a false flag operation wouldn’t be a long term operation.

Like I said, though, I agree with your sentiments.

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

That is what I was intending, wasn’t a slap at you.

And you are correct, it well could have been a muzzie who did this as a pretext. Not that they need much…

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Ya know,I don’t mean to point fingers………..

But,when Canada pulled out of Iran,Sh*t Hit Da Fan,
jus say’n!!!!

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 7:25 PM

And what general would carry out that order? Demanding that an American cease to have his Constitutional freedoms to appease a foreign religion seems to be an oath violation does it not?

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Well, obviously two have. So, they were either ordered or took it upon themselves to make the calls.

Liam on September 12, 2012 at 7:26 PM

I’m curious to know who in the Administration ordered the general to make the call.

Liam on September 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

The general seems to be doing it on his own, to help out
his commander n thief .

burrata on September 12, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Any Muslim leaders we can taunt via tweet? I’m ready to mock?

Charlemagne on September 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM
Start with Keith Ellison and that other moozie from IN ( forgot the name) , maybe we can see if they are really loyal to our country !

burrata on September 12, 2012 at 7:21 PM

@barackobama?

Key West Reader on September 12, 2012 at 7:27 PM

I hope Romney fires Allen’s sorry ass when he gets into office. He is an embarrassment to the military.

Ozwitch on September 12, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Please tell me that the embassy was at least able to…retrieve the ambassadors body.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2012 at 7:17 PM

After five hours of not knowing where he was or his fate, yes.

Obama let the answering machine pick up his 3 am phone call.
He slept while this was going on.

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-mobile-christopher-stevens-killed-m,0,2291982.story

RovesChins on September 12, 2012 at 7:29 PM

And what general would carry out that order? Demanding that an American cease to have his Constitutional freedoms to appease a foreign religion seems to be an oath violation does it not?

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM
Well, obviously two have. So, they were either ordered or took it upon themselves to make the calls.

Liam on September 12, 2012 at 7:26 PM

There was a time in American history that this type of situation would be deemed unfathomable. We live in these times with our parents and children. Wow.

Key West Reader on September 12, 2012 at 7:29 PM

And what general would carry out that order? Demanding that an American cease to have his Constitutional freedoms to appease a foreign religion a sworn enemy who is at war with the United States seems to be an oath violation does it not?

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

More accurate

Trafalgar on September 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Any Muslim leaders we can taunt via tweet? I’m ready to mock?

Charlemagne on September 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM
Start with Keith Ellison and that other moozie from IN ( forgot the name) , maybe we can see if they are really loyal to our country !

burrata on September 12, 2012 at 7:21 PM

@barackobama?

Key West Reader on September 12, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Winner!

RovesChins on September 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM

You know, I’d like to talk to the JC Chairman, too. Specifically, I’d like to talk to him about the prissy rules of engagement now in place in AfPak and other Mid East theaters.

So, folks, and it’ll be going viral pretty soon, I’ll be producing and directing a YouTube of people pissing on posters of Mohammed, who’ll be photoshopped in drag. The actors taking their leaks will portray everything from the homeless to bikers to priests to women in bikinis and burkhas to men in exquisitely tailored suits. The last scene will be of a CGI hog letting it all go on the poster, a three-minute stream, as we fade to black.

TXUS on September 12, 2012 at 7:32 PM

And what general would carry out that order? Demanding that an American cease to have his Constitutional freedoms to appease a foreign religion a sworn enemy who is at war with the United States seems to be an oath violation does it not?

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

More accurate

Trafalgar on September 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Touche.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Why anyone in the government would want to raise Jones’s profile this way is inexplicable.

Is it really that complicated?

Anything this administration does to raise Jones’s profile serves to LOWER the profile of the man whose name the Islamic rioters were chanting.

logis on September 12, 2012 at 7:32 PM

I agree that the Terry Jones has the right to exercise the first amendment, with no reservations.

I’m going to go a little against the grain here, but hear me out.

Short term: I can’t fault a military leader who knows some of their people will likely be killed for ASKING (not demanding, not threatening) others not to deliberately taunt the crazies, or at least giving the military a heads-up first. VOLUNTARILY, with no obligation to comply. Anyone tasked with the responsibility for the lives of their subordinates should be able to take reasonable steps to protect those lives. They should have the right to ask someone to do something voluntarily, just as you and I have the right to ask a neighbor to stop doing something we don’t like. If it’s not illegal, they don’t have to comply, but we shouldn’t be stopped from asking for their consideration.

Longer term: The muslim world has to be broken of the expectation of special PC treatment by foreigners. Maybe the US govt (covert agency) needs to flood the internet with deliberately offensive (to Muslims) material, and continue to periodically release offensive materials thereafter. The materials don’t need to be as awful as what people regularly do to Christianity, but enough to rile up the natives. Put our military on alert around the world in advance. It may take awhile, and they won’t like it, but eventually this will become the “new normal” for Muslims and they will not rampage every time. It will probably cost lives, but we lose lives now over this problem, and if the US doesn’t back up our freedoms, we don’t have them.

Lastly, if that film maker did dub “Mohammad” post-production without the actors knowledge, they should sue him. It’s one thing to take on a known lethal risk yourself, but wrong to knowingly put others lives in jeopardy without their knowledge. Those people may have to move and procure security for themselves and their families, not to mention the stress of death threats hanging over them for years.

Mayday on September 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM

And what general would carry out that order? Demanding that an American cease to have his Constitutional freedoms to appease a foreign religion seems to be an oath violation does it not?

[wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM]

I think a lot depends on what Dempsey said. I wouldn’t characterize it as a demand unless it was actually a demand, and to do that one would have to know what was said.

Even if it was a demand, I don’t know if it was an oath violation. It would certainly be a unethical considering military traditions (or at least my view of those traditions, since there are probably many previous instances of that type of hamhandedness that I just don’t know about.)

Anyway, if it was an oath violation, then wouldn’t WH aides calling media organizations to complain about reporting also be oath violations.

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

I think a lot depends on what Dempsey said. I wouldn’t characterize it as a demand unless it was actually a demand, and to do that one would have to know what was said.

Even if it was a demand, I don’t know if it was an oath violation. It would certainly be a unethical considering military traditions (or at least my view of those traditions, since there are probably many previous instances of that type of hamhandedness that I just don’t know about.)

Anyway, if it was an oath violation, then wouldn’t WH aides calling media organizations to complain about reporting also be oath violations.

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

It certainly is an oath violation.

Remember the CIVILIANS run the military, not the military run civilians.

Which means each of us outranks Dempsey no matter HOW many stars he has…

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Reem Abdellatif and Ned Parker CBS

September 12, 2012, 6:56 a.m.
Senior officials in Libyaon Wednesday condemned the killing of the U.S. ambassador to the country and three other Americans by armed protesters in a furor over an anti-Muslim video.

After looking at that pathetic video that reminds me of something made during the Gumby & Pokey Show back in the days of the Hazel Show.

Do you mean to tell me, that this Administration is going to BLAME …. Some pastor in Gainesville? For insulting islam?

Really? I wonder how this is going to end for Terry Jones of Gainesville.

Key West Reader on September 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM

They aren’t. You can’t be muslim and American. To be muslim means to be loyal to 6th century dark age barbarism.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Islam is a political system posing as a religion just as Communism is a religion posing as a political system. And many in the West want us to surrender to Islam just as they wanted us to surrender to Communism.

Django on September 12, 2012 at 7:43 PM

[Mayday on September 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM]

Except for your long term approach for desensitizing Muslims, I agree with what you say. Personally, I’m not too concerned if the General couched it as a demand, unless he also threatened Jones. Demanding people are people who God gave us to use the “dropped call treatment” several times. They are also, as even Nancy Pelosi knows, what he mute button is for.

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:43 PM

The funniest thing about the MohammedBombHead cartoon was that it really made muzzie heads explode.

So the MohammedBombHead cartoon was a prophet but Mohammed himself was a used camel salesman.

SparkPlug on September 12, 2012 at 7:44 PM

This scam or not-scam movie has absolutely nothing to do with these despicable deviant muslim actions and they’d make up any reason they wanted to get away with it. What frightens me is that the US military leaders who are responsible for the defense and protection of this country would cave so easily to pressure over such evident BS. Seriously, we’re in deep do-do here.

stukinIL4now on September 12, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Obama got Bin Laden, and they got an ambassador…so far the score is tied.

I imagine the guy who killed the ambassador will be re-elected…

right2bright on September 12, 2012 at 7:45 PM

US WarShips on there way!
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US officials say 2 warships moving toward Libya
— Sep. 12 7:15 PM EDT
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Does Obama know about this?

tommer74 on September 12, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Ya know,I don’t mean to point fingers………..

But,when Canada pulled out of Iran,Sh*t Hit Da Fan,
jus say’n!!!!

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 7:25 PM

You nailed it. (:

SparkPlug on September 12, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Lemme get this straight. The US Military, at the highest level, is now imposing anti-blasphemy regulations against US citizens? Really? Really?

tommyboy on September 12, 2012 at 7:48 PM

US WarShips on there way!
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US officials say 2 warships moving toward Libya
— Sep. 12 7:15 PM EDT
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Does Obama know about this?

tommer74 on September 12, 2012 at 7:46 PM

No, he thinks they are Russian.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Thanks to the people who pointed out Kudlow to me!

carolt2 on September 12, 2012 at 7:51 PM

It certainly is an oath violation.

Remember the CIVILIANS run the military, not the military run civilians.

Which means each of us outranks Dempsey no matter HOW many stars he has…

[wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:38 PM]

Now that’s just ridiculous stretching and linking. Pompous appeals to Constitutional oaths with subsidiary appeals to recognize “who’s the boss here” don’t make calling your boss to request a different tack, insubordination. If it was then every private in the military would be in the brig shortly after getting out of boot camp.

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:51 PM

I hereby blaspheme Mohammed by jamming a toilet plunger handle up his butt.

Oh wait that’s not blasphemous in muzzieland, that’s like a sacrement.

OK, I JUST hit a picture of him with a shoe that my dog touched.

Run away run away.

SparkPlug on September 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I hereby blaspheme Mohammed by jamming a toilet plunger handle up his butt.

Oh wait that’s not blasphemous in muzzieland, that’s like a sacrement.

OK, I JUST hit a picture of him with a shoe that my dog touched.

Run away run away.

SparkPlug on September 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I believe my toilet is an image of `Mo.

Every time I crap in it.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

I think a lot depends on what Dempsey said. I wouldn’t characterize it as a demand unless it was actually a demand, and to do that one would have to know what was said.

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

When the ranking general of the most powerful military force in the world, a guy who could make me disappear without a trace in a single phone call, calls me up and strongly “requests” that I not do something I’m going to feel suitably intimidated.

tommyboy on September 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Hugh Hewitt is talking about this now.

Cody1991 on September 12, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Who’s up for Burn a Koran at Chick Fil-a Day?

ardenenoch on September 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

When the ranking general of the most powerful military force in the world, a guy who could make me disappear without a trace in a single phone call, calls me up and strongly “requests” that I not do something I’m going to feel suitably intimidated.

tommyboy on September 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Exactly.

Which is why military has no authority over civilians inside the United States. According to our law, you outrank him.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

When the ranking general of the most powerful military force in the world, a guy who could make me disappear without a trace in a single phone call, calls me up and strongly “requests” that I not do something I’m going to feel suitably intimidated.

[tommyboy on September 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM]

Well, I suppose you are right. I hadn’t thought about the concerns of spineless Americans. It’s an oath violation then.

There, you happy now?

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM

I worked for Gen Dempsey when he was a one star. Complete dithering idiot.

crash72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Hey, General Dempsey, the white clutter who live next door to me, keep having kids, don’t work, and expect the gubmint (us) to support them offend me on a daily basis……..how ’bout giving them a ringy dingy?

As long as we’re going about the business of military personnel dictating to civilians, might as well get some personal satisfaction out of it.

waterytart on September 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Islam- garbage in/ garbage out.

Pretending otherwise can get you and your staff slaughtered for living in Islam-is-a-Religion-of-Peace Cloud CuckooLand.

profitsbeard on September 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM

US WarShips on there way!
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US officials say 2 warships moving toward Libya
— Sep. 12 7:15 PM EDT
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Does Obama know about this?

tommer74 on September 12, 2012 at 7:46 PM

You might want to send him a TWEET and let him know – I think he’s still in Las Vegas, doing a little shopping …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSd_Ihcehos

Pork-Chop on September 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Great video. I laughed and laughed.

a capella on September 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:43 PM

I thought I might be alone in that sentiment, and am glad I’m not.

And regarding the longer term goal, I’m really not sure what the right tactic is. if we did do as I suggested, we’d have to quell the riots with lethal force if necessary. If there’s a less violent approach I’d be all for it, but I couldn’t think of one. I think that’s all the “radicals” understand. I just hate that under the status quo, anybody can exercise their first amendment rights, but our military (and consulates) pay the ultimate price. So IMO, something has to change.

Mayday on September 12, 2012 at 8:03 PM

If Robert Gates were to call Todd Akin and beg him to drop out of his race, I’m sure people here would just be wild for it.

sartana on September 12, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Now the McCainiacs are piling on to Romney from the left:

In the wake of this violence, the rush by Republicans — including Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin and scores of other conservative critics — to condemn him for policies they claim helped precipitate the attacks is as tortured in its reasoning as it is unseemly in its timing.

This could really be a big opportunity for Romney. If he can join with Palin, Rush et al. and stand for conservative Christian values against Obamao and GOPe Islamic appeasers…

…heh, yes I know pigs would have to fly before Romney would join forces with Palin, but, damn, who better to point out that the RINO idiots who stifled Palin’s attacks on King Hussein and his terrorist pals in 2008 were what got us into this mess in the first place.

sauldalinsky on September 12, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Who’s up for Burn a Koran at Chick Fil-a Day?

ardenenoch on September 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Better yet, who’s up for sending Marines into Egypt and Libya and ordering them to kill anyone who gets within 100 feet of our embassies and consulates…United States sovereign territory?

Trafalgar on September 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM

I hadn’t thought about the concerns of spineless Americans

Sorry Hercules but there’s a fine line between backbone and suicidal stupidity and telling El Generalissimo to go F himself crosses it.

tommyboy on September 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM

I suppose th JCS Chairman will be calling Eric Cartman next.

Curtiss on September 12, 2012 at 7:14 PM

LOL
Alright, who got rid of the muslims?
admit it, bigotry saved the day

LOL

from the episode The Snuke

dmacleo on September 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Well, I suppose you are right. I hadn’t thought about the concerns of spineless Americans. It’s an oath violation then.

There, you happy now?

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Maybe the brave Pentagon warriors should spend their time dealing with the guys who are trying to murder Americans rather than phoning American citizens telling them not to make the murders angry?

sharrukin on September 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Congress should object. Military leaders have no business calling citizens. Regardless of the effects. Political leaders… maybe. Feels like this nation is slipping into a marxist hole.

antisocial on September 12, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Islam is a fanatical dogma; not a religion of peace.
Anyone not muslim is an infidel and is to be killed.
Screw them.
We have no interests in the Koranimals and their
murderous pedophile gods.
Let them live in their mud huts….bring our people home.
Not one more dime to the middle east beasts.
Stand with our ally Israel against the Koranimals.

dirtengineer on September 12, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Remember when we had real military leaders like Ike, Omar Bradley and Patton? And Schwartzkopf in the more modern era.

TxAnn56 on September 12, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Why is the Joint Chiefs of Staff doing this?

Isn’t this NASA’s job?

sentinelrules on September 12, 2012 at 8:15 PM

I agree….great leaders.
The chicken shits in control now are an embarrasment.

dirtengineer on September 12, 2012 at 8:15 PM

antisocial on September 12, 2012 at 8:11 PM

I can only hope… If they don’t I guess I am OK. I can’t tolerate a teary Speaker.

antisocial on September 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Maybe the brave Pentagon warriors should spend their time dealing with the guys who are trying to murder Americans rather than phoning American citizens telling them not to make the murders angry?

sharrukin on September 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

They’re only doing what their civilian superiors want/ tell them to do.

BallisticBob on September 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Mary in LA:Please tell me thats a parody thingy,if so,LOL:)

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 7:04 PM

On that point I must defer to any HAers who have actually served in the U.S. military! ;-)

But I think that the line at the top of the form stating that its principal purpose is “To assist whiners in documenting hurt feelings, and to provide leaders with a list of soldiers who require additional counseling, NCO leadership, and extra duty” is a pretty good indicator. (Note that the Navy version of the form prescribes “wall-to-wall counseling”…)

:-)

Mary in LA on September 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Not newest, but continuing, military duty: Attacking freedom of speech and the United States Constitution.

VorDaj on September 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM

And what general would carry out that order? Demanding that an American cease to have his Constitutional freedoms to appease a foreign religion seems to be an oath violation does it not?

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Exactly what I want to know, does any of our military leaders have any balls to openly state, “This is what our military has been fighting for for so long, freedom of speech”.

Too bad people like Allen West are chased out of military, we are left with skirts wearing kind to kiss muslim asses time and again. Where is the 6th Fleet we are paying for? Any reason presidential palace is still standing intact in Egypt and Benghazi still has power and water?

riddick on September 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Petraeus used to take care of attacking freedom of speech and the United States Constitution.

VorDaj on September 12, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Exactly what I want to know, does any of our military leaders have any balls to openly state, “This is what our military has been fighting for for so long, freedom of speech”.

Too bad people like Allen West are chased out of military, we are left with skirts wearing kind to kiss muslim asses time and again. Where is the 6th Fleet we are paying for? Any reason presidential palace is still standing intact in Egypt and Benghazi still has power and water?

riddick on September 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM

I can’t see Colonel West obeying an order like that…

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 8:23 PM

They’re only doing what their civilian superiors want/ tell them to do.

BallisticBob on September 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Maybe. I hope so, but its also possible that the sorts of men who get promoted are the types who believe this nonsense. Allen West didn’t and he got charged under the UCMJ.

sharrukin on September 12, 2012 at 8:23 PM

It doesn’t occur to them that the recent violence might have something to do with the drone strikes that took out Al Zawahiri’s #2 guy (again)? AQ swore they would retaliate but to acknowledge that would put the blame on King Hussein for inciting these attacks. Can’t have that. Better to blame Terry Jones and this dumb movie.

Buttercup on September 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM

“I condemn the action of the individual in the United States who burned a copy of the Holy Qur’an. That action was hateful. It was intolerant, and it was extremely disrespectful. I condemn the actions of a small number of individuals who have been extremely disrespectful to the Holy Qur’an.”

- from David “In: Holy Qur’an, Out: First Amendment and his oath to the United States Constitution” Petraeus

VorDaj on September 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Do the incendiary remarks of jihadists, imams, and other Muslim spokesmen give us or other non-Muslim nations the right to riot and destroy lives and property? How about those Palestinian propaganda programs and cartoons for children?

Let’s cut the double-standard. Our freedom of speech allows us to satirize and to offend without fearing for our lives and without having sharia-compliant restrictions imposed by our government.

onlineanalyst on September 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Remember the classic TV commercial showing an Indian chief crying at people littering the highway? In my imagination I see Teddy Roosevelt weeping as he watches this Administration’s pathetic response to barbarity.

Eight Weeks. Remember!

spiritof61 on September 12, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Too bad people like Allen West are chased out of military, we are left with skirts wearing kind to kiss muslim asses time and again.

riddick on September 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Just what I was thinking. You beat me too it.

sharrukin on September 12, 2012 at 8:26 PM

If a real American General, an American General with honor, like General George S. Patton, could come back from the grave, he would slap Petraeus and these generals worse than he slapped that Private, and drop kick them all into Kingdom come.

Somewhere up beyond the Pearly Gates, George Patton is looking down and saying, “The building formally known as the Pentagon has become a G-d damned whore house of servicing Muslims. The Perfumed Pimps there masquerading as Generals have no regard for America and it’s Constitution or their own troops and they are all out sons-of-#itches, traitors, and chronic dhimmis!

VorDaj on September 12, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Maybe. I hope so, but its also possible that the sorts of men who get promoted are the types who believe this nonsense. Allen West didn’t and he got charged under the UCMJ.

sharrukin on September 12, 2012 at 8:23 PM

We have COWARDS running our military these days. If Romney wins I seriously hope a number of high on resignations are asked for, if not, fire their asses for not supporting what their predecessors lost their lives for.

riddick on September 12, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Replace entire Joints Chiefs of Staff come Nov 7th. No tolerance and I would make sure their pensions are stripped as well, they obviously didn’t earn them. Send them all to their friends in Egypt and Libya.

Make every active general re-take their oaths and make sure they understand what they swear allegiance to. Force retirements on all who are complicit in the past 4 years of cowardly acts.

riddick on September 12, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Maybe the brave Pentagon warriors should spend their time dealing with the guys who are trying to murder Americans rather than phoning American citizens telling them not to make the murders angry?

[sharrukin on September 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM]

Oh, I definitely agree with that, and, if called, would likely tell the General to relay that message to the boss for his day job.

Dusty on September 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Maybe. I hope so, but its also possible that the sorts of men who get promoted are the types who believe this nonsense. Allen West didn’t and he got charged under the UCMJ.

sharrukin on September 12, 2012 at 8:23 PM

One of my company’s board members is a retired General. He once had Colin Powell under his command. He was unimpressed, described him as nothing more than a “yes” man of little ability.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM

If I were working in JAG, I’d be inclined to investigate for a Posse Comitatus violation.

BobMbx on September 12, 2012 at 8:35 PM

The women and Allen Aldas who run this country want the boys to play nice.

See? If we can go through an entire presidential campaign without speaking the middle name of one of the candidates because it would be racist then we can honor Islam and ban all images and texts which are offensive.

Also, where is a real statement from either POTUS candidate. You know, a defensive move. Like we are going to formulate a plan to use Nat Gas or whatever to become energy independent in 12 months. No more Chevy Volt pie-in-the-sky. We will do it even if it means sacrifices.

IlikedAUH2O on September 12, 2012 at 8:36 PM

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