Egypt’s Islamist president tells embassy to take legal action in U.S. against makers of Mohammed film; Update: I don’t consider Egypt an ally, says Obama

posted at 9:16 pm on September 12, 2012 by Allahpundit

I wonder if he knows that there’s no legal action available to him (yet) and is simply grandstanding for the locals’ sake or if he actually thinks he can sue to shut this thing down. Silly Morsi: There won’t be a blasphemy exception added to the First Amendment for critiques of Islam for another, oh, 10-20 years at least, I figure. Although if the Pentagon pushes really hard on national-security grounds, who knows how fast change might come?

Morsi’s silence on the embassy mob is deafening:

WhiIe Egypt’s prime minister called Tuesday’s incident “regrettable” and unjustified, President Mohamed Morsy condemned the anti-Muslim film that incited the protesters.

Morsy made a reference to Egypt’s duty to protect diplomatic missions and its opposition to unlawful protesters, but did not mention or criticize those who stormed the embassy.

“The presidency condemns in the strongest terms the attempt of a group to insult the place of the Messenger, the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and condemns the people who have produced this radical work,” the president said in a statement posted on his Facebook page. “The Egyptian people, both Muslims and Christians, refuse such insults on sanctities.”

His statement went on to say that the Egyptian government respects the right to free expression, a common Orwellian flourish whenever Islamists call for cartoons or films or books insulting the faith to be banned. Marc Lynch frets that the Brotherhood’s silence is negligent insofar as it might alienate the U.S. government, and wonders if they’re caught in a political trap where they can’t apologize for the embassy mob or else the Salafists will demagogue them as being sellouts to the Great Satan. I think David Frum’s closer to the mark:

More serious is the exploitation by Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood president of the incident as support for anti-Islam blasphemy laws. It’s important to understand that Morsi is concerned with Egyptian, not American, laws. Morsi is taking a page from the 1979 Khomeini playbook, fabricating an international incident to mobilize religious passions as a weapon for his political grouping against more secular blocs in Egyptian society – the Egyptian military very much included.

Yeah, I think Morsi and his advisors are savvy enough to understand that, once you’re an official “ally” of the United States, the White House will let you get away with all sorts of Islamist nutbaggery. In fact, the nuttier you are, the more eager the White House is to retain you as an “ally”: Better to have you behaving horribly while inside our orbit, where we can theoretically exercise some sort of restraint on you, than let you spin entirely out of it and run wild across the region. (The ultimate example of that farcical reasoning is, of course, Pakistan.) So yeah, why not let a mob terrorize American diplomats on 9/11? And why bother apologizing? We’re not going to risk a new Egyptian/Israeli war by cutting off aid from Cairo entirely and Morsi knows it, so he feels fully entitled to tell us implicitly to kiss his ass. And meanwhile, as Lynch and Frum both note, Morsi earns cred with the swaths of Islamists in Egypt’s electorate. The Libyan government and even some Libyan citizens showed remorse today for the attack on the consulate in Benghazi, but Libya needs us more than we need it. Not so Egypt. That’s a key difference in the two countries’ reactions, I think.

Exit question: Which western nation will be the first to appease the rising Islamist bloc in the Middle East by reinstituting anti-blasphemy laws for Islam? It won’t be us, I think; despite the best intentions of cretinous academics, there are too many constitutional and ideological roadblocks to abridging free speech that dramatically in the U.S. A better bet would be Canada, but the “human rights” Star Chamber that’s tormented people like Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant has gotten enough bad press over the last few years that I’m thinking Canadians might now think twice about new restrictions. No, I’m going to put my money on the UK. They’ve got just the right mix, I think, of surveillance-state paranoia and sweaty multicultural dogmatism (replete with robust hate-crime prosecutions) to give an anti-blasphemy regime a go. I’ll leave you with this from today’s op-ed page of the Guardian, a leading light of British “progressivism”:

Some people will want to defend the [Mohammed] film as critical of an idea, or of a belief. But I don’t think that will do. No Muslim could think of Muhammad as he is portrayed in the film, and very few can suppose that Islam commands them to behave the way the Muslims in the film do. The beliefs criticised are entirely imaginary. If any other group but Muslims were the target this would be obvious at once.

This film is purely and simply an incitement to religious hatred. It stokes hatred in both of its intended audiences – Christians and Jews in the US, and Muslims in the wider world. If jihadi videos are banned in this country, and their distributors prosecuted, the same should be true of this film and for the same reasons.

Update: I was surprised yesterday when he snubbed Netanyahu, and now I’m surprised again — although I think there’s a common thread that explains both reactions.

Is The One throwing Egypt under the bus, and right after I made that nifty Pakistan comparison up top, too? Well, no. He’s putting some distance between himself and Morsi now because Americans are, understandably, righteously PO’d about what happened yesterday in Cairo and Benghazi, and no amount of media caterwauling about Romney’s gaffes is going to change that. O snubbed Bibi because a war with Iran could wreak havoc with his reelection bid; he’s snubbing Morsi now for the same reason, because he knows that Romney’s “apology tour” critique of Hopenchange could hurt him badly if it gains traction. And one way for it to gain traction would be to act chummy with Egypt at a moment when they still haven’t properly apologized for the Cairo embassy mob. Egypt will be an “ally” again once he’s safely reelected, rest assured.


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Drop a Tomahawk on his house.

I’m done with tolerance for the ME. Flatten it. All of it.

Midas on September 12, 2012 at 9:47 PM

The Neo-Puritans, Prohibitionists, & McCarthyites Have Their Ban Flags A’Flying!

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-neo-puritans-prohibitionists.html

M2RB: Winston Churchill

Mitt Romney: Bravo!

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/09/mitt-romney-bravo.html

M2RB: Jay-Z and Alicia Keys

Resist We Much on September 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Pres. Obama at Las Vegas campaign rally: ‘No act of violence will shake the resolve of the USA.’ – @markknoller

4 mins ago by editor

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Sounds like he’s plugged into the feedback loop. :) Weird, though — he seemed unplugged during the healthcare debates.

Maybe the White House has an unreliable Internet connection?

Or some other loose wire.

Axe on September 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached

Emperor Manuel II of the Byzantine (or Eastern Roman) Empire in 1391.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 9:49 PM

“I don’t consider Egypt an ally,” says Obama.

The rest of the sentence.

“or Great Britain, Germany, Poland, Canada, Australia, Austria,….”

HumpBot Salvation on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Exit question: Which western nation will be the first to appease the rising Islamist bloc in the Middle East by reinstituting anti-blasphemy laws for Islam?

Belgium.

farsighted on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Or some other loose wire.

Axe on September 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Lots and lots of loose wires….

SWalker on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

I’m watching this demonstration in Cairo. There’s something missing……. they need the Code Pink Dancing Vajayjays to liven things up.

Cody1991 on September 12, 2012 at 9:45 PM

and Lara Logan to cover the rioting arab spring autumn

burrata on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Update: I don’t consider Egypt an ally, says Obama

So tweets = news sources on Hot Air now? I know the standards are low to non-existent here, but damn.

Constantine on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Seriously…didn’t that dumb Son-of-a-bi#*h give a speech in Cairo just a few years ago???


HEH!!

BigWyo on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Cut off Egypt entirely, no money arms or contact in any form.. then when they threaten war against Israel..

Tell them to go F**k themselves.. and move the sixth fleet closer.. put the Bombers B1 and B2′s on failsafe.. and retarget the ICBM wings to put Cairo on ground zero.. Tell them Mr. Romney… No more..

NO MORE….. war with us will no longer be PC.. we do it like we used too… to crush you utterly, then teach your kids, that Daddy was a scumbag as we did the Germans..

From now on if you want war with us, we go full WW II on your azz and unleash every weapon we have, no holding back, no mercy.

We will not be made a punching bag for the Islamist scum .

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 9:51 PM

I don’t consider Egypt or President Obama to be America’s Ally

Varchild on September 12, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Ditto.

SailorMark on September 12, 2012 at 9:51 PM

The Muslim brotherhood wants to take them down anyway.

All they know how to do is destroy.

JellyToast on September 12, 2012 at 9:44 PM

..remember the Taliban and the Buddhas of Bamiyan?

The War Planner on September 12, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Obama: Libya aftermath not ‘the time for politics’ – @politico

40 secs ago from http://www.politico.com by editor

9/12/12 9:42 PM EDT
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http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/09/obama-libya-aftermath-not-the-time-for-politics-135401.html

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 9:51 PM

So tweets = news sources on Hot Air now? I know the standards are low to non-existent here, but damn.

Constantine on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Well of course it’s all made up dickhe8d…..

BigWyo on September 12, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Jimmy Carter must be doing cartwheels on his peanut farm.

fogw on September 12, 2012 at 9:53 PM

“In an exclusive @BarackObama tells @jdbalart “I don’t think that we would consider (Egypt) an ally” #msnbc2012″

THEN WHY DID YOU RESUME AID AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE OF THESE UNITED STATES YOU *&^%$ Backstabbing idiot??

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-to-resume-aid-to-egypt/2012/03/22/gIQA3B3UUS_story.html

Varchild on September 12, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Obama’s not throwing Morsi under the bus.

He’s putting him in the dog cage on top of the bus.

bophame on September 12, 2012 at 9:54 PM

To anyone who was still on the fence about supporting Romney, to the Paul supporters, the Johnson supporters, anyone bitter because Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee or Palin or Perry or Cain or anyone else isn’t the nominee, and Romney is:

THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO UNITE FOR ROMNEY.

I understand you may not like Romney. I understand you think he’s a squish, a RINO, someone who will roll over and advance soft socialism or whatever you might find negative about the man. He absolutely was not my first choice for nominee either. But none of that matters now.

This WILL happen again. We CANNOT have Obama at the helm the next time America is attacked.

If nothing else, today proved Romney loves this country in a way Obama never could. That alone should be enough to get you to the polls. And bring 5 people with you.

Please.

Paradol Ex on September 12, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Cut off Egypt entirely, no money arms or contact in any form.. then when they threaten war against Israel..

Tell them to go F**k themselves.. and move the sixth fleet closer.. put the Bombers B1 and B2′s on failsafe.. and retarget the ICBM wings to put Cairo on ground zero.. Tell them Mr. Romney… No more..

We will not be made a punching bag for the Islamist scum .

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 9:51 PM

..sadly, none of that is within the scope of reality as long as this pud knocker is POTUS. Throw him out, put Romney in, build up the military, drill for oil here, become self-sufficient, and turn the M.E. into a glass parking lot if they even sneeze in our direction!

The War Planner on September 12, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Egypt was an ally under W. And Clinton. And H. W. And Reagan. And Carter.
’nuff said.

rbj on September 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

So tweets = news sources on Hot Air now? I know the standards are low to non-existent here, but damn.

Constantine on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Is that what they gave you to run with? OFA must be hard up for cash and intelligent trolls. You’re meme has already been debunked..by you know…facts and stuff.

Try again.

HumpBot Salvation on September 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

End all Muslim immigration to the USA and expell any Wahabist dogs that are here.We must grant refugee status to arab christians.If it was good enough for Soviet jews its good enough for them
LET OUR PEOPLE GO!!!

Thicklugdonkey on September 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Paradol Ex,

well said!!!

Dittos

karenhasfreedom on September 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Update: I don’t consider Egypt an ally, says Obama

So tweets = news sources on Hot Air now? I know the standards are low to non-existent here, but damn.

Constantine on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

When the president releases a tweet, it’s the same as a statement.. it’s him.. remember?

or is that too hard for you?

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Obama is an effin’ traitor. Face it, people. He runs our country into the ground while funding the Muslim Brotherhood. He demeans our military leadership, hobbles our soldiers, and disrespects our allies. He is the enemy of our country.

claudius on September 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Tell Morsi not to worry. He’ll be more flexible after the election.

Ben Hur on September 12, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached

Emperor Manuel II of the Byzantine (or Eastern Roman) Empire in 1391.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Love that quote. BTW, those 72 virgins look like Yasser Arafat who died of aides from his camel.

SparkPlug on September 12, 2012 at 9:57 PM

The next 55 days are going to be full of chaos.

Obama is following Alinsky

organizers must be entirely unpredictable and unmistakably willing — for the sake of the moral principles in whose name they claim to act

— to watch society descend into utter chaos and anarchy. He stated that they must be prepared, if necessary, to “go into a state of complete confusion and draw [their] opponent into the vortex of the same confusion.

faraway on September 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

So tweets = news sources on Hot Air now? I know the standards are low to non-existent here, but damn.

Constantine on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Another troll!
What shall his name be?

We have a yellow gerbil.
Brown nose gerbil?

RovesChins on September 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Egypt will be an “ally” again once he’s safely reelected, rest assured.

After November, when he’s got more flexibility.

socalcon on September 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 9:44 PM


I was alluding to all their (European) betrayals; notably during the First Crusade, when the Byzantines asked Pope Urban II for aid, and the Fourth Crusade (which you noted: 1204).

Demosthenes on September 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I know the standards are low to non-existent here, but damn.

Constantine on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

So you are here why exactly ?

burrata on September 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

End all Muslim immigration to the USA and expell any Wahabist dogs that are here.We must grant refugee status to arab christians.If it was good enough for Soviet jews its good enough for them
LET OUR PEOPLE GO!!!

Thicklugdonkey on September 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Frankly, close the borders until we get our deficit under control and our unemployment under control. We don’t need more people here to feed and house when our own people can’t find work and our government spending is spiraling out of control.

karenhasfreedom on September 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

There was once a time when the murder of a country’s Ambassador was considered an act of war — and reprisal could be swift and devastating.

Now it’s simply just the price of doing business — and considered by the leaders of the most powerful and benevolent nation on Earth as just a lil ol’ bit of collateral damage during Blame Game play.

Yeah — the Barack Hussein Obama administration will rant and rave and grouse plenty so they can get their quotes and their photo op’s on the news in this election year — but nothing will be done and more enemy countries are that much more emboldened because of it.

FlatFoot on September 12, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Obama: Libya aftermath not ‘the time for politics’
9/12/12 9:42 PM EDT
******************

Earlier in the day, Obama said in an interview

that Romney “seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later,”
********

but the president followed up in a later interview, with Telemundo,
***********

by saying he has made clear “this wasn’t the time for politics.”

“As president, my obligation is to focus on security for our people, making sure that we gather all the facts, making sure that we’re advancing American interests,” he said in an excerpt of the Telemundo interview aired Wednesday night on MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show.” “And not having ideological arguments on a day when we are mourning the loss of outstanding folks who have served our country very well.”

“I think at this point, probably, the best thing to do would be to refer to questions about Mr. Romney’s comments to the Romney campaign,” he added.

Romney’s criticism of the Obama administration began Tuesday night, after the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, with the Republican candidate saying that the U.S. embassy in Cairo — and, by extension, the president — were too apologetic in a released a statement Tuesday morning condemning an anti-Islam film that stirred protests in the streets there on the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.

The U.S. relationship with Egypt, Obama told Telemundo,
********************************************************

is at a sensitive moment. “I don’t think that we would consider them an ally, but we don’t consider them an enemy,” he said. “I think it’s still a work in progress, but certainly in this situation, what we’re going to expect is that they are responsive to our insistence that our embassy is protected, our personnel is protected.”

Obama offered a warmer view of Libya, noting that “the vast majority of Libyans welcomed the United States’s involvement” in the ouster of Muammar Qadhafi. On Tuesday, “many Libyans came to the defense of our team in Benghazi when they were attacked,” he said, and what’s next is “a full investigation — find out the facts, find out who perpretrated the acts and bring them to justice.”

The administration’s hope is to bring the perpetrators to justice by capturing them, Obama said.

“We’re going to have to, obviously, cooperate with the Libyan government and, you know, I have confidence that we will stay on this relentlessly, because Chris Stevens, he’s somebody who actually advised me and Secretary Clinton during the original Libyan uprising,” Obama said. “He was somebody who Libyans recognized as being on the side of the people, and we’re going to get help. we’re going to get cooperation on this.”
=================================================

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/09/obama-libya-aftermath-not-the-time-for-politics-135401.html

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Yeah — the Barack Hussein Obama administration will rant and rave and grouse plenty so they can get their quotes and their photo op’s on the news in this election year — but nothing will be done and more enemy countries are that much more emboldened because of it.

FlatFoot on September 12, 2012 at 9:59 PM

He didn’t even do that. He emotionlessly delivered a flat non-statement, then got on a plane to Vegas to raise money for his re-election.

HE HAS TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

karenhasfreedom on September 12, 2012 at 10:00 PM

If nothing else, today proved Romney loves this country in a way Obama never could. That alone should be enough to get you to the polls. And bring 5 people with you.

Please.

Paradol Ex on September 12, 2012 at 9:54 PM

..you can start before November 6th and you don’t even have to contribute money (although $5 or $10 once in a while helps out) or walk precincts. You can do phone-banking from your home at no cost.

The War Planner on September 12, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Obama: “I don’t think that we would consider Egypt an ally”

Response: You built that.

batterup on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

At this point I welcome any concern trolls/Anyone But Romney supporters to trash the man for the next 4-8 years. You have your feelings about the man and I hope you continue your full-throated criticism of Romney.

On one condition: You help us through November, and then you’re free to go after President-Elect Romney as much as you want.

Or you can sit smugly in your chair on November 7th after Romney concedes and we look forward to 4 more years wandering in the desert.

Paradol Ex on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

I wonder if he knows that there’s no legal action available to him (yet) and is simply grandstanding for the locals’ sake or if he actually thinks he can sue to shut this thing down. Silly Morsi: There won’t be a blasphemy exception added to the First Amendment for critiques of Islam for another, oh, 10-20 years at least, I figure.

If Teh SCOAMF gets re-elected, 10-20 weeks, not 10-20 years.

Steve Eggleston on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Oh my! catching up on Hannity…Ann & Michelle on the same night!

Michelle is livid, I like it when she’s livid!

ccrosby on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Or you can sit smugly in your chair on November 7th after Romney concedes and we look forward to 4 more years wandering in the desert.

Paradol Ex on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

40 years, not 4.

Steve Eggleston on September 12, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Update: I don’t consider Egypt an ally, says Obama

So tweets = news sources on Hot Air now? I know the standards are low to non-existent here, but damn.

Constantine on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM

When the president releases a tweet, it’s the same as a statement.. it’s him.. remember?

or is that too hard for you?

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

No unless it appears on President Obama’s Birth Certificate Mug, then it doesn’t apparently count as a statement made by the President worthy of analysis.

/Sarc

Fact is….. Hilly Clinton + President Obama gave EGYPT $1.5 Billion completely against the LAW passed in December of last year by Congress which required EGYPT to show clear proof it was headed towards Democratic Freedoms.

Instead….Hillary Clinton and President Obama waive the LAW on National Security Grounds.

They thought it was to America’s NATIONAL SECURITY interests to hand over the money without Preconditions.

Let me say that again here…

NO PRECONDITIONS for $1.5 Billion of Taxpayer Money to a REGIME suspect due to being MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.

OBAMA thought handing the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD all this cash was going to be a GOOD THING for AMERICA.

Look at where we are at now???

We are left with a MEDIA that wants to BLABBER about Mitt Romney Correctly making a Correct Statement….

Meanwhile….It is easy to piece together the truth here…The MEDIA simply won’t bother displaying it for the rest of America that doesn’t sit around a computer researching the truth.

Varchild on September 12, 2012 at 10:02 PM

So how many anniversaries of 9/11 attacks did we have under Bush ?
How many of them were marked with muslims attacking our embassies where our troops were not even present ( i e afcrapistan and iraq )?

burrata on September 12, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Egypt will be an “ally” again once he’s safely reelected, rest assured.

Flexibility explained in one easy step.

Bitter Clinger on September 12, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Witnesses, officials say Libya consulate attack came after militants joined protesters – @washingtonpost

48 secs ago from http://www.washingtonpost.com by editor

Libya consulate attack came after militants joined protesters, say witnesses, officials
September 12 2012–Updated: Wednesday, September 12, 8:41 PM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chaos-at-the-consulate-as-militants-attack/2012/09/12/f92ad9d2-fcfe-11e1-8adc-499661afe377_story.html

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM

I was alluding to all their (European) betrayals; notably during the First Crusade, when the Byzantines asked Pope Urban II for aid, and the Fourth Crusade (which you noted: 1204).

Demosthenes on September 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Well, the First Crusade DID help Alexius Commenos regain control of most of Asia Minor, but true, it didn’t help him CRUSH the Turks in the central part, which it could have done…

The 4th Crusade doomed the Roman Empire to extinction…

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Throw him out, put Romney in, build up the military, drill for oil here, become self-sufficient, and turn the M.E. into a glass parking lot if they even sneeze in our direction!

The War Planner on September 12, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Agree entirely.. the ME has become a hotbed of evil since they started soaking up oil money to fund their war on civilization. I’m told that the Saudi oil fields haven’t much life left in them, starting to dry up in a decade or so..

I’m not an expert.. but the greatest weapon we can use against them, is poverty once their oil money runs out.. They didn’t build any industries, educate their populations, build the infrastructure necessary to sustain them when the oil is gone.. when it’s gone, they have nothing but sand dates and rage..

Try building a war machine with THAT MB.

and if their oil doesn’t run out…

we could always nuke and irradiate their oil fields for the next 20,000 years..

I could care less if liberals cry about it, we’ll win because the bulk of us are still Americans, and we don’t know how to loose.. much as the left has tried..

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Or you can sit smugly in your chair on November 7th after Romney concedes and we look forward to 4 more years wandering in the desert.

Paradol Ex on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

40 years, not 4.

Steve Eggleston on September 12, 2012 at 10:02 PM

If we don’t defeat Obama, we won’t have a country in 4 years. In 40 years, our children’s children will grow up wearing burkas and we will all be reading from right to left in Arabic.

karenhasfreedom on September 12, 2012 at 10:06 PM

The Mideast is on fire tonight and our president is AWOLV.

slickwillie2001 on September 12, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Michelle is livid, I like it when she’s livid!

ccrosby on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

She was pissed.

BallisticBob on September 12, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Incitement to hatred is protected free speech in this country.

blink on September 12, 2012 at 9:59 PM

I wonder for how long!

Paul-Cincy on September 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Well, EGYPT was an ally before obama handed control of the country over to his muslim brotherhood comrades. Come on, obama is 100% in cahoots with Morsi and the muslim brotherhood – he is one of their operatives – he is responsible for the violence in Egypt and Libya – these are the facts.

Pork-Chop on September 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

NBC twitter quotes the same guy — but the quote is longer…

NBC News ‏@NBCNews

MT @jdbalart: Pres. Obama on Egypt:”I don’t think that we would consider them an ally. But we don’t consider them an enemy.” @TelemundoNews

*sigh*

FlatFoot on September 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Incitement to hatred is protected free speech in this country.

blink on September 12, 2012 at 9:59 PM

I wonder for how long!

Paul-Cincy on September 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

The muslims incited me to hate THEM on 9/11/01.

When do we start throwing them in prison for that?

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Or you can sit smugly in your chair on November 7th after Romney concedes and we look forward to 4 more years wandering in the desert.

Paradol Ex on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

A lot of those ABRs are really Obama Mobys.

slickwillie2001 on September 12, 2012 at 10:10 PM

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Sounds like he’s plugged into the feedback loop. :) Weird, though — he seemed unplugged during the healthcare debates.

Maybe the White House has an unreliable Internet connection?

Or some other loose wire.

Axe on September 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Axe:Sorry for my tardy response,been Info News Gathering:)

Lol,ya,Hopey is one plugged up Donkey,where the donkey poo,is backing up!:)

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 10:11 PM

What a candy-a statement. “I don’t think that we would…”

He sounds so sure of himself.

drewwerd on September 12, 2012 at 10:12 PM

If we don’t defeat Obama, we won’t have a country in 4 years. In 40 years, our children’s children will grow up wearing burkas and we will all be reading from right to left in Arabic.

karenhasfreedom on September 12, 2012 at 10:06 PM

I remain optimistic that America can survive anything. How much, and in what state, I can’t say. But America can survive.

The thing is, we don’t need to look to the future as survival, and all it takes is to motivate each other for the next 55 days.

Paradol Ex on September 12, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Obama’s actions in the ME, which so many seem to find mystifying, are not at all hard to understand. If you were an ally or at least cooperating with the US, Obama supports the overthrow of your government. If you are an enemy of the US, no matter how bloody and brutal, he is happy to have you remain in power.

Obama is desperately trying to keep the lid on a half a dozen boiling pots until after the election. Then he will have more “flexibility” to deal with situations. And that “flexibility” won’t be good for us or our allies.

Anyone who thinks Obama has any intention of stopping Iran from developing nukes is delusional. He is doing his utmost to prevent Israel from acting alone until it is too late, and then he will just shrug his shoulders.

novaculus on September 12, 2012 at 9:47 PM

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Excellent post!

Only thing you missed – if you’re NOT an ally of the U.S.; the SCOAMF will be bowing and trying to figure out how he can appease your a$$.

PolAgnostic on September 12, 2012 at 10:12 PM

New thread guys! It’s a doozy.

RovesChins on September 12, 2012 at 10:12 PM

*sigh*

FlatFoot on September 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

FlatFoot:

******SOS******,hey are you having any problems getting
any Twitter sites,I’ve been trying for over two hours!:)

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM

The 4th Crusade doomed the Roman Empire to extinction…

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:05 PM

The citizens of the empire did that.

Axe on September 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM

What a candy-a statement. “I don’t think that we would…”

He sounds so sure of himself.

drewwerd on September 12, 2012 at 10:12 PM

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“I don’t think that we would…” – literally passive voice

PolAgnostic on September 12, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Update: On 2nd day of protests outside US embassy in Cairo, 6 police officers suffer minor injuries; several demonstrators treated – @CNN

8 mins ago from http://www.nn.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/anti-islam-film-protests

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I wonder what the new Egypt economy will look like

Daikokuco on September 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Witnesses, officials say Libya consulate attack came after militants joined protesters – @washingtonpost

48 secs ago from http://www.washingtonpost.com by editor

Libya consulate attack came after militants joined protesters, say witnesses, officials
September 12 2012–Updated: Wednesday, September 12, 8:41 PM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chaos-at-the-consulate-as-militants-attack/2012/09/12/f92ad9d2-fcfe-11e1-8adc-499661afe377_story.html

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM

&$^$%#^&^&&

’cause up to that point, they were all innocent &#$^$% Jeffersonian Democrats out on a freakin’ holiday, but they were hijacked and made to go boo boo by baddies

don’t get banned don’t get banned

Axe on September 12, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Well, the First Crusade DID help Alexius Commenos regain control of most of Asia Minor, but true, it didn’t help him CRUSH the Turks in the central part, which it could have done…

The 4th Crusade doomed the Roman Empire to extinction…

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:05 PM


True, but the First Crusade indirectly helped Alexius. If the Pope would have allowed western knights to directly aid the Byzantines, like you wrote, their aid would’ve helped evict the Muslim Turks.

Demosthenes on September 12, 2012 at 10:17 PM

True, but the First Crusade indirectly helped Alexius. If the Pope would have allowed western knights to directly aid the Byzantines, like you wrote, their aid would’ve helped evict the Muslim Turks.

Demosthenes on September 12, 2012 at 10:17 PM

You are correct.

Sadly, the “Great Schism” of 1054 probably did more to doom the Eastern Empire than anything else.

Well, and the constant infighting for the throne… The defeat by the Turks in 1071 was only made disastrous by the fact that Romanos Diogenes was deposed and the Byzantines fought a civil war over the throne… Hence why historians called them Byzantine…

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM

How about turnabout is fair play?

When you burn our flag and invade our embassies, we get really, really mad.

PattyJ on September 12, 2012 at 10:20 PM

This ladies and gentlemen says it all in a nutshell

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-compares-his-campaign-volunteers-to-embassy-staff-killed-in-libya/article/2507830#.UFE_F0KIw4a

gophergirl on September 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

What a POS.

Did he say in lieu of funeral flowers to donate to his campaign instead?

HumpBot Salvation on September 12, 2012 at 10:22 PM

If we don’t defeat Obama, we won’t have a country in 4 years. In 40 years, our children’s children will grow up wearing burkas and we will all be reading from right to left in Arabic.

karenhasfreedom on September 12, 2012 at 10:06 PM

I understand why you’d feel that way..

but no…. our children won’t..

It would mean the blood of patriots would again be shed to stop that from ever happening.. I’d beg burrow or steal whatever pain meds I had to, to smother it long enough to take up a rifle for my country again.. I have two children.. and they won’t be converts at the point of a sword, if all of us vets rose in our millions..

They could not stop us,..

We aren’t sheep…. and I doubt even Obama would risk his survival in such an act… he knows the muslim street hates him now.. he can’t brag about killing their heroes, to win reelection and expect that his words of apology would save him from them.

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 10:22 PM

I’m joining this late. I don’t even care: we are getting foreign policy statements from #$#$!&@%&% twitter now?

WitchDoctor on September 12, 2012 at 10:24 PM

What do you get when you put a bunch of monkeys in suits: The new government of Egypt.

Sorry, you savages, free men in a free country don’t need to pay attention to you effing ingrates.

Bishop on September 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM

To paraphrase James Lileks, we had the chance to go “The Full Roman” on 9/12/01 and we didn’t.

Seems like a missed opportunity in retrospect…

Bruno Strozek on September 12, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Wait another 48 hours… the islamic sh#t traditionally hits the fan when rageboy and his friends get out of the Friday afternoon prayer sessions with the imams.

bofh on September 12, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Michelle is livid, I like it when she’s livid!

ccrosby on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

She was smokin’ in several ways. I think she lost her breath twice while reaming Obama.

In addition to MM, Hannity also had Brigitte Gabriel on. She’s always great on the subject of Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Gabriel

BuckeyeSam on September 12, 2012 at 10:27 PM

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM

&$^$%#^&^&&

’cause up to that point, they were all innocent &#$^$% Jeffersonian Democrats out on a freakin’ holiday, but they were hijacked and made to go boo boo by baddies

don’t get banned don’t get banned

Axe on September 12, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Axe:Tru dat:)

canopfor on September 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I read a lot of US history, but world history, not so much, just bits and pieces..

would you recommend any books to get a basic education on the crusades?….. Most of what I know of them, is from fictional films and TV, not a very good way to start, but.. I have the time.. if not for college, then some basic texts on the history of the crusades.

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM

If he has any brains Romney will go on an all-out assault on O’s extraordinarily stupid “wouldn’t consider them an ally” statement.

No Shi’ite, Sherlock?!

Romney has with this a gigantic opening, which is why the presstitutes are circling the wagon, hoping to make Romney look, er, un-presidential for immediately and clearly responding to an international fiasco of a policy when it’s, uh, chickens are coming home to roost.

So to speak.

bobcalco on September 12, 2012 at 10:29 PM

This ladies and gentlemen says it all in a nutshell

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-compares-his-campaign-volunteers-to-embassy-staff-killed-in-libya/article/2507830#.UFE_F0KIw4a

gophergirl on September 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

What a POS.

Did he say in lieu of funeral flowers to donate to his campaign instead?

HumpBot Salvation on September 12, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Nah, that’s Mochelle’s job. She’s so admired in this country after all…

Can’t wait for the “I went to the Lybian Embassy, but all I got was shot!” t-shirts to hit the barky campaign website.

ccrosby on September 12, 2012 at 10:30 PM

This ladies and gentlemen says it all in a nutshell

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-compares-his-campaign-volunteers-to-embassy-staff-killed-in-libya/article/2507830#.UFE_F0KIw4a

gophergirl on September 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Oh Lord, I thought it had to be a joke, but no, it’s not a joke, he really did that.

slickwillie2001 on September 12, 2012 at 10:31 PM

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM


Very true.

I always feel claustrophobic when reading about the Byzantines — reminds me of Israel to some degree, a people/culture surrounded by enemies and constantly betrayed by its “allies”.

Demosthenes on September 12, 2012 at 10:32 PM

I read a lot of US history, but world history, not so much, just bits and pieces..

would you recommend any books to get a basic education on the crusades?….. Most of what I know of them, is from fictional films and TV, not a very good way to start, but.. I have the time.. if not for college, then some basic texts on the history of the crusades.

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Start with Robert Spencer’s “Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades”

http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Islam-Crusades/dp/0895260131

For the Byzantine Empire, I recommend this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-West-Forgotten-Byzantine-Civilization/dp/0307407969/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1347503442&sr=1-2&keywords=byzantine+empire

Thanks to the DEPLORABLE state of history education, most people believe the Roman Empire fell in 476. That is a lie. It endured until May 29, 1453. Indeed, if it HADN’T, we’d know almost NOTHING of the ancient world!

The fall of Constantinople caused Byzantine scholars to flee to south Italy (which had been Byzantine controlled until the 12th Century) and was the seed of the Renaissance!

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Very true.

I always feel claustrophobic when reading about the Byzantines — reminds me of Israel to some degree, a people/culture surrounded by enemies and constantly betrayed by its “allies”.

Demosthenes on September 12, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Byzantium is my favorite study in history.

And I hate to call it Byzantium, because the people and Emperors never did, they NEVER used that word… To the last day the Empire existed, they called themselves ROMAN.

They WERE the Roman Empire.

I am shocked a movie has never been made about Constantine XI, the last Emperor of Constantinople. He died with a sword in his hand DEFENDING his city from the Turks in 1453…

http://rumkatkilise.org/constantineXI.htm

Constantine XI is a martyr and should be recognized as a Saint by the Catholic Church as well…

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Jeez, I just heard Greta ask Bolton if our foreign policy needs an “adjustment”

Bolton’s reply – yeah we need a new president, dumba**

OK, so I added the dumba** Bolton is way too nice to say that outloud.

ccrosby on September 12, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Egypt’s Islamist president tells embassy to take legal action in U.S. against makers of Mohammed film

I have a demand for Mr. Morsi; it’s anatomically impossible, but I still demand that he do it. … and the camel he rode in on.

AZfederalist on September 12, 2012 at 10:39 PM

The media attempts to shame Mitt and demand he shut up are as transparent as crystal.. nobody believes them..

They never demanded Obama SHUT UP on foreign policy when he was running for president in 08, and we’re still in one of those wars.. Nobody demanded Kerry SHUT UP in 04… not in the MSM

we only have one president at a time, right you MSM douche-bags?

Why didn’t they demand Kerry shut up when our embassy was blown up in Iraq.. or the YN compound?

Why weren’t they calling for Obama to leave politics at the waters edge during Obama’s wild and crazy world rock star tour in 08?

The utter hypocrisy of now… NOW… when the Carteresque Obama presidency is falling apart, and they’ve spend every Nichol of their credibility shilling for him…

NOW…

a candidate for president has to shut up about foreign incidents?

since when?

oh…. yeah, since their God King is vulnerable.. and if Obama won’t be competent,.. they’ll just go ape demanding Mitt a bilge them by shutting up.

mark81150 on September 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Egypt’s Islamist president tells embassy to take legal action in U.S. against makers of Mohammed film

I have a demand for Mr. Morsi; it’s anatomically impossible, but I still demand that he do it. … and the camel he rode in on.

AZfederalist on September 12, 2012 at 10:39 PM

The Wide Latina or Elena Kagan would take this case.

And rule for the islamists.

wildcat72 on September 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM

So Egypt’s not our ally any more, but that won’t stop us from throwing them their $1.3 billion allowance anyway.

Got it.

Gator Country on September 12, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I know the standards are low to non-existent here, but damn.
Constantine on September 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM
So you are here why exactly ?
burrata on September 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I can’t change the minds of those who carry water for the moneyed interests seeking to buy our democracy for their own benefit, but at least I can point out their stupidity. It’s gratifying and rather easy, especially here.

Constantine on September 12, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Did the Wizard in the White House send more Marines to Cairo..?I know she (Val Jarret) sent them to Libya.

d1carter on September 12, 2012 at 10:46 PM

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