Allen West: Apologizing in Egypt is “rewarding bad behavior”

posted at 2:01 pm on September 12, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

This was before the press conferences from both Romney and the President this morning and the ensuing fallout, but I thought Rep. Allen West‘s reaction last night to the U.S. embassy’s apology to rioters in Egypt was, like Krauthammer‘s, right on point.

I think it’s an absolutely horrible thing, because what you have to understand — here we are on 9/11, remembering the attacks… and now we have had another attack on sovereign American soil, which is what a consulate and an embassy is. Our flag was torn down, it was burned, the radical Islamists’ flag was raised, and we have an American official that lost their life. And the first thing that comes out is that we’re going to apologize for something that a Christian, Coptic individual posted in a video on his Facebook site. So now, if we’re going to start eschewing our freedom of speech rights to apologize to people for these type of attacks, Greta, you’re only get even more of this. This is rewarding bad behavior, and I think you’re going to see this dovetail into other countries. … I think it’s a horrific response that we’re apologizing. We’re accepting the blame for this which means you’re going to feel more of this response. …

Spot-on. It is insane — insane – that we should feel the need to tiptoe around the tender feelings of violent, overzealous radical Islamists (or, as some in the MSM now seem to be oh-so-subtly calling them, “ultraconservative” Islamists — really, guys?). Freedom of religion and freedom of speech are human rights, and I don’t mean that like ‘universal healthcare’ is supposed to be a human right (which, by the way, it isn’t). They are undeniable, inalienable, universal rights — absolutely no if’s, and’s, or but’s about it — and for representatives of the United States to get all sheepish and showcase their willingness to be bullied on that point makes me extremely nervous, to say the least.

The big buzz all morning has been that Romney somehow miffed an opportunity to work on his foreign-policy credentials by issuing a premature or inappropriate statement on the riots in Egypt, but I’m not buying it. As Byron York writes:

An instant consensus appears to have developed among reporters and commentators that Mitt Romney made a mistake when he released a statement last night condemning the Obama administration’s response to attacks on U.S. diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt. …

But Romney was, and is, right.  As events in Benghazi and Cairo unfolded, the Obama administration’s first instinct was to apologize for any offense Muslims might have taken from an Internet video, made in America, that mocked and ridiculed the prophet Mohammed, and which the radicals cited as the cause for their actions. … Then, on Wednesday morning, Romney said the administration “was wrong to stand by a statement sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in Egypt instead of condemning their actions.”

And that is exactly what the administration did. …


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Libyan govt security forces, according to Fox, worked with the killers to tip them off on the “secret” location of the ambassador. But O now says he is going to “work with Libyan govt” to find the killers? It’s the Libyan govt that was behind, or at least strongly aided and abetted, these killers. O needs to stop siding with the radical Al Qaeda muslims, look what it’s getting us… killed.

anotherJoe on September 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Allen West get’s it… Obama and company…not even close…
War is coming to the Middle East.
SWalker on September 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Disagree. 0bama and co. not only ‘get it’…

They are helping engineer it, intentionally.

LegendHasIt on September 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Obama to Diplomats: I Value Your Work Because I Spent Time Abroad as Kid

Bastard

Schadenfreude on September 12, 2012 at 3:04 PM

They are helping engineer it, intentionally.

LegendHasIt on September 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Only the blind don’t see, and it’s already too late. That this all happened on Sept. 11 is extremely telling too.

That America has Barack Hussein Obama president, so close to 9/11/2001 will never be forgiven. The land committed suicide when they voted for him.

Schadenfreude on September 12, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Yep, your main concern is pushing back against Romney, rather than against Zawahiri’s boys what done this.

Christien on September 12, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Pushing back against Zawahiri is not what I see here. What I see here — and what appalls me about Romney’s statements — is pure partisanship when what is called for is considered diplomacy in the short term in order to avoid further American casualties, followed by severe retribution once we have determined who is responsible for the attacks.

cam2 on September 12, 2012 at 3:09 PM

If you want to blame the psychopathic acts of barbarians on the people who exercise their rights lawfully, I consider you a domestic enemy.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2012 at 2:54 PM

thank god nobody did that.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:11 PM

thank god nobody did that.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:11 PM

I’m sorry. I forgot that you were blind as well as stupid.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2012 at 3:12 PM

cam2 on September 12, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Obama’s diplomacy is how we got here.

claudius on September 12, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Are there any Dems willing to admit they chewed the pooch voting for Barry?

Put your names right here:

..fill in below on the line provided with a number 2 pencil..

Dolt #1:_____
Dolt #2:_____
Dolt #3:_____
Dolt #4:_____

^^fill in here please with a number 2 pencil^^

SparkPlug on September 12, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Has anyone thought about why the Embassy tweeted what they did? Could it be they were going to say anything they thought would save their a$$es?

ManWithNoName on September 12, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Obama is a traitorous, incompetent fool.

Sometimes things really are that simple.

claudius on September 12, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Pushing back against Zawahiri is not what I see here. What I see here — and what appalls me about Romney’s statements — is pure partisanship when what is called for is considered diplomacy in the short term in order to avoid further American casualties, followed by severe retribution once we have determined who is responsible for the attacks.

cam2 on September 12, 2012 at 3:09 PM

What is called for is the removal of Libya’s male population from Earth.

BemusedMalkinite on September 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM

I’m sorry. I forgot that you were blind as well as stupid.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2012 at 3:12 PM

they blamed the film’s producers for inciting violence, which is a morally valid charge. (no, i don’t support prosecuting the filmmakers.)

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM

The savages demand tribute and our government happily complies. We need a new President Jefferson to stand up for our rights. People need to understand history especially of that region. WE live in the 21st century and they live in the 6th.

JKotthoff on September 12, 2012 at 3:21 PM

(no, i don’t support prosecuting the filmmakers.)

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Thanks for admitting your statement was wrong.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2012 at 3:21 PM

they blamed the film’s producers for inciting violence, which is a morally valid charge.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM

ROFL

Bishop on September 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM

ROFL

Bishop on September 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM

only moral degenerates can’t see why provoking violent protests that kill innocent Americans is wrong.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM

The savages demand tribute and our government happily complies. We need a new President Jefferson to stand up for our rights. People need to understand history especially of that region. WE live in the 21st century and they live in the 6th.

JKotthoff on September 12, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Yes excellent.

Mr. West has continually stood up to those who challenge him on this issue. He knows the history and has called their bluff before.

LaughterJones on September 12, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Thanks for admitting your statement was wrong.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2012 at 3:21 PM

you’re clearly incapable of nuanced thinking. yes they blamed them for producing the video, but not for the murders themselves.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Initial Statement from the
Embassy of the United States Cairo – Eqypt

U.S. Embassy Condemns Religious Incitement
September 11, 2012
The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

D-fusit on September 12, 2012 at 3:26 PM

only moral degenerates can’t see why provoking violent protests that kill innocent Americans is wrong.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Only cowards can’t see why acquiescing to psychopaths is wrong.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Sorry Link

D-fusit on September 12, 2012 at 3:28 PM

you’re clearly incapable of nuanced thinking. yes they blamed them for producing the video, but not for the murders themselves.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:26 PM

And directly blamed the video for the murders.

The blood of the victims is on the hands of the killers, and no one else. You’re so desperate to attack those you disagree with that you’ll side with anyone. One day people like you will take that to a higher degree, and then you’ll be stabbed in the back by the same monsters you stood shoulder-to-shoulder with.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Lunacy.

ConservativeLA on September 12, 2012 at 3:29 PM

cam2 on September 12, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Your concern is duly noted. Thanks for being so concerned about positioning our side for a win. We know that means a lot to you.

AZfederalist on September 12, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Obama’s diplomacy is how we got here.

claudius on September 12, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Exactly–another TFG SNAFU.

Christien on September 12, 2012 at 3:31 PM

cam2 on September 12, 2012 at 3:09 PM

You have any family member(s) serving at one of our embassies or consulates?

Christien on September 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Sorry, guys, for rewarding a KNOWN troll by addressing and responding to it. I usually don’t and am guilty of rewarding bad behavior. Back to putting them on *gaze.*

Christien on September 12, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Sesqui,
Inciting the followers of Islam to violence is not hard. Their tolerance sfor criticism of Islam is amazingly low..
Frankly, it so low that I find it offensive.
If our criteria for what constitutes free speech is governed by what Muslims find offensive , we will not have free speech..
Frankly, they are using the movie as a pretext or excuse to attack us as they have since as long as I remember..

Jabberwock on September 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM

only moral degenerates can’t see why provoking violent protests that kill innocent Americans is wrong.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM

You are the only degenerate, along with Obama.

Schadenfreude on September 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Obama’s diplomacy is how we got here.

claudius on September 12, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Intentional policy

Schadenfreude on September 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM

The blood of the victims is on the hands of the killers, and no one else. You’re so desperate to attack those you disagree with that you’ll side with anyone. One day people like you will take that to a higher degree, and then you’ll be stabbed in the back by the same monsters you stood shoulder-to-shoulder with.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2012 at 3:28 PM

It will be too late that day.

Schadenfreude on September 12, 2012 at 3:43 PM

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:26 PM

I do not normally swear, but after observing your postings, the only thing left to say is,”Damn, you are stupid!”. People slap you upside the head with evidence of apologies (What is not apologetic about saying, “We strongly condemn people in our country exercising their free speech rights and making you 7′th century savages feel bad”?) The same statement then goes on to say, “But making you feel bad is no excuse for you getting violent”. If they were not violent, why the “stop hurting us!” element of the statement.

I really don’t know what you think you are doing or accomplishing here, but I’m pretty sure that what you are really accomplishing is not the same as your objectives. You are trying to pose as this intelligent, thoughtful liberal lecturing us knuckle-dragging neanderthals on how rotten conservatives are, what a horrible party the Republicans are, and how foolish we are for wanting to maintain our freedom and liberty. What you come across as is an ignorant, lying weasel who scrambles mightily to spin and deflect facts provided to you back into your talking point narrative. You fail at that. Miserably. You come across looking like the darnfool you are.

You may smile and take pride in the fact that you get responses from us. Don’t be so smug; you are the equivalent of the 10 yard target people use to make sure that all systems are functioning before moving on to the real targets that challenge our marksmanship.

AZfederalist on September 12, 2012 at 3:49 PM

The Neo-Puritans, Prohibitionists, & McCarthyites Have Their Ban Flags A’Flying!

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-neo-puritans-prohibitionists.html

M2RB: Winston Churchill

Hey, since “ban” is the word of the day. Let’s ban:

“GM is alive and Osama bin Laden is dead!”

According to Foreign Policy Magazine, Osama bin Laden received 21 mentions at the Democratic National Convention.

Now, for some important questions:

Were the Egyptians screaming about the film? No.

Were the Libyans screaming about the film? No

This is what they were screaming:

“Obama, Obama, there are still a billion Osamas!”

Resist We Much on September 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM

only moral degenerates can’t see why provoking violent protests that kill innocent Americans is wrong.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM

So we need to not do anything that will provoke radicals Muslims to violence?

So you’re against gay marriage?
Women not covering themselves in the hijab?
How about cartoons depicting Mohammad?

Can you name a freedom we can maintain with this criteria?

gwelf on September 12, 2012 at 4:03 PM

RWM, I’ve been saving this link for you.

Schadenfreude on September 12, 2012 at 4:09 PM

This is what they were screaming:

“Obama, Obama, there are still a billion Osamas!”

Resist We Much on September 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Yep. They are panicking that pro-Islamist TFG very well might lose to Romney.

Christien on September 12, 2012 at 4:09 PM

only moral degenerates can’t see why provoking violent protests that kill innocent Americans is wrong.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Provocation is a subjective thing. Once you condemn one person for ‘provoking’ the actions of another, and especially when the first person is only doing what has always been common in civilised society (mocking kings, rulers, gods, etc), and the provoked persons have a reputation for being on an irrational hair-trigger, you leave yourself wide open to blackmail.

Besides, given that these protests erupted ‘spontaneously’ on September 11th about a film that was released a while back and which most of them probably haven’t even seen … it ought to be obvious that the film was not the provocation at all, but that the violent people are deliberately trying to turn Americans against one another and create conflict. Have you never heard of “Fitna”? They have, in fact, got people like you wrapped around their little fingers and are playing you and your ilk like a fiddle.

And again, why don’t you expect Muslims to behave rationally and calmly? If they genuinely objected to the film they could have created a countering film of their own or simply expressed their sorrow for the lack of respect, or just ignored it completely. You, however, seem to agree with them that violence was the only acceptable response. Why do you expect other people to offer respect to Muslims but not expect Muslims to exercise the common courtesies of civilisation?

YiZhangZhe on September 12, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Dear President Romney,

Please pick Sen Allen West as your Secretary of Defense.

Please pick Former UN Ambassador John Bolton as your Secretary of State.

Thank you.

RealMc on September 12, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Dear President Romney,

Please pick Sen Rep. Allen West as your Secretary of Defense.

Please pick Former UN Ambassador John Bolton as your Secretary of State.

Thank you.

RealMc on September 12, 2012 at 4:31 PM

RealMc on September 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM

THANK YOU Congressman Alan West; God bless you, sir.

listens2glenn on September 12, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Dear President Romney,

Please pick Sen Rep. Allen West as your Secretary of Defense.

Please pick Former UN Ambassador John Bolton as your Secretary of State.

Thank you.

RealMc on September 12, 2012 at 4:31 PM

My thoughts exactly. Two men with tons of REAL experience in these matters who know and understand the enemy.

Common Sense on September 12, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Has anyone thought about why the Embassy tweeted what they did? Could it be they were going to say anything they thought would save their a$$es?

ManWithNoName on September 12, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I’ve wondered about this, and I am assuming that they felt themselves to be in imminent danger and gave a slightly panicked reaction. If that is the case then it is understandably human but disappointing that the diplomats weren’t better prepared in advance with some words that were less inflammatory and less dhimmitudinous.

YiZhangZhe on September 12, 2012 at 6:25 PM

They are undeniable, inalienable, universal rights

Obviously, they’re not universal, or we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Nutstuyu on September 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Resist We Much on September 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Raaaccciiissst.

Nutstuyu on September 12, 2012 at 7:17 PM

thank god nobody did that.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Fluke you (and your lying, thieving, murdering pedophilic friend Mohammed).

Nutstuyu on September 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Dear Leader was working on his own apology but Valerie J. scrapped it. I imagine it went something like this….

My Brothers:

Sorry I couldn’t be there with you to help raise the glorious Muslim flag!
Don’t worry though. Me, John Brennan, Chris Christie, Keith Ellison, Andre Carson, Huma Abedein and many, many others are all working toward that goal in our own way here.
You’ll all be invited over when the time comes.
Yeah, I’ll still be in power. The suckers are going to reelect me, one way or another. We’ve seen to it.
Yours for the Caliphate.
As-Salamu Alaykum.
السلام عليكم
B.

Yephora on September 12, 2012 at 7:52 PM

only moral degenerates can’t see why provoking violent protests that kill innocent Americans is wrong.

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM

So we need to not do anything that will provoke radicals Muslims to violence?

So you’re against gay marriage?
Women not covering themselves in the hijab?
How about cartoons depicting Mohammad?

Can you name a freedom we can maintain with this criteria?

gwelf on September 12, 2012 at 4:03 PM

…she won’t have time to answer that!…even when she lurks back here after!

KOOLAID2 on September 12, 2012 at 8:49 PM

SchadenfrAude on September 12, 2012 at 2:05 PM

PHew good thing u threw that last part in! Thought you were a solid conservative there 4 a sec!

cableguy615 on September 12, 2012 at 8:53 PM

as some in the MSM now seem to be oh-so-subtly calling them, “ultraconservative” Islamists — really, guys?).

Why do you think they started calling them “fundamentalist Moslems?” It wasn’t because they were returning to the fundamentals of Islam — although jihad is pretty fundamental to Islam, it’s not like most of them had ever left it behind. No, they saw fundamentalist as a pejorative and immediately linked it to violent Muslims, even though “fundamentalist” Christians had never exactly been known for waging terrorism or “holy war.”

And they see “ultraconservative” as exactly the same kind of pejorative, and therefore want to make a link between violent jihadis and conservatives, even though all the violence in the political spectrum seems to come from the left.

tom on September 12, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Are there any Dems voting for Barry BAMSTAHHHH!! YOU DA MANNN BAMMY BABY!!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLL!!!!!! YAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Plug on PM

cableguy615 on September 12, 2012 at 8:57 PM

If we have to stop films that somehow insult Muslims doesn’t that mean that when Muslims say Jesus was only a prophet they are insulting Christians and must be stopped?

{^_^}

herself on September 13, 2012 at 4:40 AM

When dealing with “True Believers” you have to handle them at their own level of cognition. Merely killing a Muslim doesn’t do the trick (for other Muslims) because they have died in a Jihad and will reap the reward of religious warriors-a plethora of voluptuous virgins. Your job is not only to make sure that the Muslim perpetrator is dead but that any other would-be assassin learns from the death of his comrade.

Want to stop the bloodshed? Sew up any dead Muslim involved in a terrorist attack (or related activity) in a pigskin and bury them in an unmarked, secret grave. But make sure the sewing up of the remains in the hide of a pig is graphically illustrated and publicized. A pig is the vilest of all unclean animals and any body sewn within will suffer eternity in hell.No glory. No paradise. And , above all, no virgins.

Hasn’t the Armed Forces ever heard of psychological warfare? Don’t believe it will work? Think the reverse-why would an Army major, with a PHD in psychiatry mass murder his fellow soldiers? Because he is a True Believer. If he believes mass murder of “infidels” guarantees a place in paradise, he will also believe that being sewn up forever in the body of an unclean animal will guarantee the reverse.

MaiDee on September 13, 2012 at 6:18 AM

they blamed the film’s producers for inciting violence, which is a morally valid charge. (no, i don’t support prosecuting the filmmakers.)

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Oh goody! Let’s play editor:

they blamed the film’s producers girl for dressing immodestly and inciting violence rape, which is a morally valid charge. (no, i don’t support prosecuting the filmmakers rape.)

sesquipedalian on September 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM

There are certainly girls who wear provocative clothing, but that never justifies rape. Most, in fact, would never dream of telling a rape victim that she should have been more careful what she wore, for the simple reason that it implies it’s her own fault.

Now here we have fanatics who kill Americans and claim it was because of some insult to Mohammed. It doesn’t matter what the proposed insult to Mohammed was, riots and murders are never an appropriate response.

By claiming the film’s producers “incited” violence, you are in fact blaming them for the murderous actions of fanatics.

Despicable.

tom on September 13, 2012 at 6:34 PM

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