Woodward book reveals Congressional staffer chewed out Obama over debt-limit preparation

posted at 3:31 pm on September 9, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Unlike most posts I write, I won’t have a lot to add to what Bob Woodward’s latest book, The Price of Politics, reveals about the behind-the-scenes struggle over the debt limit a little over a year ago.  Woodward’s book is being serialized in the Washington Post this week, and this weekend’s entry reveals how close we came in the game of Pennsylvania Avenue Chicken in July 2011.  One exchange, though, offers a very revealing look at Barack Obama — and support for an argument I’ve made ever since the stimulus flopped in 2009.

In a previous excerpt, Woodward related how Harry Reid and John Boehner had cut Obama out of the negotiations after a series of unacceptable demands and poor diplomacy with Congressional leaders.  Later, when Reid and Boehner reached a framework of an agreement, Reid had his chief of staff David Krone explain the deal, which included at the time a two-step debt limit increase — which Obama had adamantly refused to approve.  Obama angrily objected, which is when the Congressional staffer took the opportunity to chew out the President:

Reid began to lay out the two-step $2.7 -trillion debt limit extension, then stopped. He was not a details guy. “Well, let David just tell you what it is,” he said.

It was highly unusual for someone to pass the ball so completely to a staffer. The 44-year-old Krone outlined the plan, including a secret Republican pledge to count $1 trillion in savings from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan toward deficit reduction. That was surprising. Earlier, Boehner had not been willing to accept this accounting gimmick.

“I don’t trust these guys,” the president said dismissively.

Krone either would not or could not conceal his anger.

“Wait a second,” Obama said, interrupting someone else who was about to speak. “I can tell David has something else to say.”

“Mr. President, I am sorry — with all due respect — that we are in this situation that we’re in, but we got handed this football on Friday night. And I didn’t create this situation. The first thing that baffles me is, from my private-sector experience, the first rule that I’ve always been taught is to have a Plan B. And it is really disheartening that you, that this White House did not have a Plan B.”

Several jaws dropped as the Hill staffer blasted the president to his face.

This administration has never had a Plan B.  Obama has never run any organization of consequence, certainly not any in the private sector, where executives have to constantly adapt to changing conditions and prepare backup strategies in case projects fail.  Obama comes from Academia, where all of his policies work in theory, and so failure means insisting on sticking with the failed policies because they’ll eventually work.

That’s why Obama won’t produce a second-term agenda.  It’s the same failed policies as his first, because Obama never has a Plan B.  And that is disheartening indeed, as long as he’s in office.

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Good stuff!

clnurnberg on September 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM

My gosh! Obama is an incompetent boob. Such a tool.

Weight of Glory on September 9, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Obama has no Plan B because he gave his all away to Sandra Fluke.

steebo77 on September 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Where is Krone, now? Does he still hold the same position?

thatsafactjack on September 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM

The other point that Woodward documents is that Øbama is stubbornly willing to send the entire world into a financial collapse to advance his re-election prospects. It’s stunning.

This Chavez wannabe cares only about himself and his beloved “fundamental transformation”, and let the rest of the world be damned.

petefrt on September 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM

That’s why Obama won’t produce a second-term agenda. It’s the same failed policies as his first, because Obama never has a Plan B. And that is disheartening indeed, as long as he’s in office.

Right on the money Ed. As usual.

ButterflyDragon on September 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Then what happened?? I’d love to hear the SCFOAMF’s mealy-mouthed response

Braveheart on September 9, 2012 at 3:39 PM

That’s why Obama won’t produce a second-term agenda. It’s the same failed policies as his first, because Obama never has a Plan B. And that is disheartening indeed, as long as he’s in office.

And yet, if the polls are to be believed, he’s now the frontrunner yet again.

….

Nothing to be done, at some point.

Hawkins1701 on September 9, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Obama never has a Plan B

When Plan A fails, Øbama‘s Plan B is to double down on Plan A. And double down with a vengeance. Woodward documents it.

petefrt on September 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM

There are kids running lemonade stands that have more business sense than this liar in the White House does.

crosshugger on September 9, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Obama is an unmitigated disaster and the US economy is in the toilet.

So, why is this tool ahead in the polls and why are Americans voting for a re-run of the first 4 horrendous years?

I would suggest that Romney find some charisma soon, because this election is his to lose.

Sparky5253 on September 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM

There was no Plan B, because there was no Plan A. There was only some platitudes and an agenda.

Curtiss on September 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM

We need an Obama Amateurism of the last four years category…

d1carter on September 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

It doesn’t matter, this is a dangerous whie house, dangerous in not knowing how to govern or what to do, but people are afraid Ryan and Romney, at a 52 percent of people approving of Obama’s job performance, Americans see him as a screw up with themselves.

So the American people look for people incompetent as they are so they don’t feel incompetent.

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

And that +40% of the people in this country still plan on voting for him is very telling. Even if Romney wins and manages to implement some changes that by some miracle manage to improve the economy and fiscal state of our nation, I will still see this election as a sign of how far we have fallen as a Constitutional Republic in that not only did +50% vote for that disaster in the making back in 2008 but that so many are willing and eager in fact to vote for him again.

I have serious doubts about this country making it to its tricentennial the way things are going.

Yakko77 on September 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Just like everything else with bho he is totally useless! No plan, just stall, stall, stall and hope people forget?

And now this! HOW long has bho/team known they needed to do this? Wanna bet it will be the Friday dump next week and it will be just horrible coming from bho/team?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/07/white-house-fails-to-meet-deadline-on-detailing-proposed-defense-cuts/?test=latestnews
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letget on September 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Plan B?! What da’ heck ever was their Plan A?

stukinIL4now on September 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM

The American people like screw ups because they themselves are screw ups

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Obama has never run any organization of consequence, certainly not any in the private sector, where executives have to constantly adapt to changing conditions and prepare backup strategies in case projects fail.

You just described the entire Tea Party- no strategy for compromise or reach a secondary plan, no willingness to adapt to changing political conditions to reach an agreement.

Reid had his chief of staff David Krone explain the deal, which included at the time a two-step debt limit increase — which Obama had adamantly refused to approve.

There was a reason for adamant opposition to the 2-stage plan. It was vigorously opposed by Wall Street and the business sector- that would have cast a pall of far greater uncertainty into 2012.
Are you suggesting that Obama should have agree to a 2-stage plan that increased business uncertainty?

bayam on September 9, 2012 at 3:47 PM

The 44-year-old Krone outlined the plan, including a secret Republican pledge to count $1 trillion in savings from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan toward deficit reduction. That was surprising. Earlier, Boehner had not been willing to accept this accounting gimmick.

“I don’t trust these guys,” the president said dismissively.

“I don’t trust these guys” to help me lie to the American public….

This is a look into the inner workings of a giant Craziness Machine. The White House is an insane asylum.

logis on September 9, 2012 at 3:47 PM

When Plan A fails, Øbama‘s Plan B is to double down on Plan A. And double down with a vengeance. Woodward documents it.

petefrt on September 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Yep-that seems to be it.
Double and triple down.

bazil9 on September 9, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Pantload…

Seven Percent Solution on September 9, 2012 at 3:50 PM

I have a plan B for the Empty Chair: Betray, as in betray your instinctive hatred of our country and capitalism.

TXUS on September 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM

The other point that Woodward documents is that Øbama is stubbornly willing to send the entire world into a financial collapse to advance his re-election prospects. It’s stunning.

This Chavez wannabe cares only about himself and his beloved “fundamental transformation”, and let the rest of the world be damned.

petefrt on September 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Why is it stunning? It’s who he is. This is the same man who will beg Putin for time for political ease.

We don’t matter, the country doesn’t matter, the US’ allies don’t matter. All that matters is Obama and what he needs.

Romney is far from perfect and not even on many of our lists, but another four years of this man may not be a recoverable situation.

kim roy on September 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM

The other point that Woodward documents is that Øbama is stubbornly willing to send the entire world into a financial collapse to advance his re-election prospects.

Then it’s surprising to realize how Obama policies arrested the nation’s economy freefall and stopped the nation from spiralling into a deflationary balance sheet recession. This may shock you, but the massive sell-off on Wall Street in 2008 was driven by the perceived likelihood of a depression. The US financial crisis was far worse than what occurred in Japan a decade earlier yet the outcome wasn’t nearly as severe.
It’s hard to say where your assumptions are coming from, if not talk radio.

bayam on September 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Giving up never felt so good, welcome to Plan B!

pookysgirl on September 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

You just described the entire Tea Party- no strategy for compromise or reach a secondary plan, no willingness to adapt to changing political conditions to reach an agreement.

bayam on September 9, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Laughable comparison. Sure…a group of individuals who have worked all their lives in the private sector and paid their bills vs. a pampered community organizer whose entire fiscal philosophy is inspired by car-title loans seen on late night Sunday television.

You don’t compromise with spoiled children who don’t have the experience to know what is best for them.

ClassicCon on September 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Obama is an unmitigated disaster and the US economy is in the toilet.

So, why is this tool ahead in the polls and why are Americans voting for a re-run of the first 4 horrendous years?

I would suggest that Romney find some charisma soon, because this election is his to lose.

Sparky5253 on September 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Well first of all, there is a base of support for Democrats no matter how bad or incompetent they may be. Both Carter and Mondale each got over 40% of the national vote. So let’s not act surprised that Obama has people who will pull the lever for him regardless of how poor his first term performance has been.

Secondly, the GOP has to explain to voters(particularly the casual, unengaged ones) exactly what Obama is such a SCOAMF. I don’t mind if Romney doesn’t want to get mean-spirited or personal with the attacks, but go through his record and point out to people what he’s done over these last 3 1/2 years that have helped put this country in the horrible shape it’s in and how what Bush allegedly left behind really doesn’t have very much to do with it.

Seriously, there have been dozens of books written on Obama’s failures and shortcomings. Romney’s campaign could upload the text of any one of them into the teleprompter and just have him go out there and read to the crowds. You don’t want to overwhelm the voters with information, but you also can’t expect to win based solely on a message of “the economy stinks, and Obama despite being a nice guy is in over his head”. Romney tried this all throughout the summer and it landed him right where he is today. Trailing by a few points against a man he should be on the verge of landsliding out of office.

Doughboy on September 9, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Yet, a majority of people say they approve of Obama’s job performance. What line would Obama have to cross to change that?

Curtiss on September 9, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Yes, but did Krone have a plan C?

Bmore on September 9, 2012 at 3:54 PM

We still supposed to buy the myth that the rat-eared bastard wants to work in a bipartisan way?

Of course, I’m also not so thrilled that Boehner was willing to let the bastard get away with the accounting gimmick of counting money that was never going to be spent as a deficit reduction. It points out the need for new GOP leadership no matter the outcome of the presidential election!

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Then it’s surprising to realize how Obama policies arrested the nation’s economy freefall and stopped the nation from spiralling into a deflationary balance sheet recession. This may shock you, but the massive sell-off on Wall Street in 2008 was driven by the perceived likelihood of a depression. The US financial crisis was far worse than what occurred in Japan a decade earlier yet the outcome wasn’t nearly as severe.
It’s hard to say where your assumptions are coming from, if not talk radio.

bayam on September 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH…next you will be still trying to explain how he “saved” GM.

It’s hard to say where your assumptions are coming from, if not Jon Stewart.

ClassicCon on September 9, 2012 at 3:56 PM

So, why is this tool ahead in the polls and why are Americans voting for a re-run of the first 4 horrendous years?

Because people like cookies and ice cream. Obama has lots of cookies and ice cream.

tdarrington on September 9, 2012 at 3:58 PM

I can’t believe we are going to lose against this guy, it’s the end of the GOP

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 3:59 PM

There is a plan A and so far it’s working. The marxist has the country on the verge of financial collapse..that is the plan.

bgibbs1000 on September 9, 2012 at 4:00 PM

I can’t believe we are going to lose against this guy, it’s the end of the GOP

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 3:59 PM

That is the best thing that could happen to this country at this point.

ClassicCon on September 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM

I can’t believe we are going to lose against this guy, it’s the end of the GOP

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 3:59 PM

My crystal ball is in the shop..guess yours isn’t.

bazil9 on September 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Because people like cookies and ice cream. Obama has lots of cookies and ice cream.

tdarrington on September 9, 2012 at 3:58 PM

And Romney likes the marxist, thinks he’s a swell guy.

bgibbs1000 on September 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Obama is not a failure and his Plan A and Plan B are not failures. He is not telling anyone what his plans are for one very important reason, and he does have a plan!

His plan is to turn America into the USSA!

United Socialist States of America!

That what he doesn’t want us to know!

That’s why it’s all platitudes and little to nothing else!

He doesn’t WANT us to know!

Vntnrse on September 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM

So, why is this tool ahead in the polls and why are Americans voting for a re-run of the first 4 horrendous years?

Sparky5253 on September 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM

For the exact same reason that there are an estimated 20% of Eastern Europeans (my fellow former countrymen) who still wish for the return of Communism. They know of only one way of life, to be ordered around like sheep and told what to do.

Our education system is now teaching the exact same crap. Government knows best, free stuff is good, even if it means a substandard way of life.

JPeterman on September 9, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I can’t believe we are going to lose against this guy, it’s the end of the GOP

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 3:59 PM

My crystal ball is in the shop..guess yours isn’t.

bazil9 on September 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Hey man all I can see is 52% on Gallup and ras approve of this guys job performance. Romney is no way near hitting him hard as he did to people like me. And I wasted 100 bucks on giving it to Romney instead of using it to buy myself something.

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 4:06 PM

The 44-year-old Krone outlined the plan, including a secret Republican pledge to count $1 trillion in savings from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan toward deficit reduction. That was surprising. Earlier, Boehner had not been willing to accept this accounting gimmick.

Well we always knew he was inept, but this proves it further. Time for Boo-Hoo Boehner to go! Not a strong enough backbone. They probably threatened to take away his tanning privileges.

Sasha List on September 9, 2012 at 4:07 PM

The first thing that baffles me is, from my private-sector experience, the first rule that I’ve always been taught is to have a Plan B.

That’s the money quote, right there.

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM

With statist, failure is not an option; it’s the default condition.

Rixon on September 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Palate cleanser: Mr Scam Man

petefrt on September 9, 2012 at 4:12 PM

It’s hard to say where your assumptions are coming from, if not talk radio.

bayam on September 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Last month nearly 100k jobs were created.
Last month nearly 500k people left the workforce.
Last month nearly 150k people entered the workforce for the first time

Last month about 550k people became long term unemployable. They have no chance for a job let alone the American Dream they lost that forever or at least for a very long time.

Is that actually acceptable to you. Half a million people in America losing the American Dream as even a hope every month?

Obama had four years. But every month it is still getting worse.

Do you at least understand that last month 50,000 more people entered the workforce than there were jobs created. That means America is still not even creating jobs fast enough for the population increase in America.

Obama in 2004 made a very valid point. When there were only 300k jobs created in a month. That is not enough.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 4:12 PM

…any budget JugEars has presented since he has been elected has been rejected by his own party…so I ain’t buying the book!

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Plan B(lack) is racist.

SouthernGent on September 9, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 4:06 PM

The upper left hand corner of DRUDGE. You may want to take a look at it.

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:15 PM

They know of only one way of life, to be ordered around like sheep and told what to do.

Our education system is now teaching the exact same crap. Government knows best, free stuff is good, even if it means a substandard way of life.

JPeterman on September 9, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Good points JP.

And we generations in the teet cycle from the cradle to the grave.
It is taught within the families too-not just the Ed system.

bazil9 on September 9, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Obama is an unmitigated disaster and the US economy is in the toilet.

So, why is this tool ahead in the polls and why are Americans voting for a re-run of the first 4 horrendous years?

Sparky5253 on September 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Two word answer: Public education

DrStock on September 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Plan A or
Incomplete..

Electrongod on September 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

we have*

bazil9 on September 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Two word answer: Public education

DrStock on September 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Free stuff.

bgibbs1000 on September 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

You know what? I see a really troubling theme in the comments this weekend. Many of you have given up. You would rather see Obama win than just be quiet and support Romney. What is wrong with all of you? I imagine the Daily Kos is reading this – lapping it up. “We’ve done it! We’ve done it!” They won’t vote because their tender principles are bruise!” This is the bottom line, ROMNEY IS BETTER THAN OBAMA. That is all. HE IS BETTER THAN DESCENDING INTO THE UNKNOWN. Obama’s second term is the unknown. Everyone needs to quit whining and at least stop complaining until AFTER the election. Because, even if Romney wins, the war will just be starting. Can you IMAGINE what they will be like? Like a lion with a thorn in its paw, that’s what.

djl130 on September 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Really nice to know these clowns where playing chicken with the entire worlds economy.

SCOMAF doesn’t even begin to describe him.

D-fusit on September 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Yet, you will vote for Plan A man. sigh

bazil9 on September 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Section 8 tenants moving into swanky S. Florida communities

Imagine that.

Key West Reader on September 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

That Obama isn’t polling in single digits really means that the country is well and truly f@#$ed, we just don’t fully realize it yet. Can there really be a path back to national sanity when we are seriously this far gone that roughly half of the millions of citizens in this country are so manifestly and unquestionably stupid that they’d *still* support Obama after all of this?

There is no hope. Even if Romney wins, we’re still f@#$ed. Any semblance to the country this used to be, or was supposed to be, is purely coincidental – and won’t last much longer.

Midas on September 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 4:06 PM

The upper left hand corner of DRUDGE. You may want to take a look at it.

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Well I’m well aware of that the problem is the country is different now, we are talking 30 years ago so it is irrelevant

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM

djl130 on September 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Yes, seen a lot of it myself..last night included.
But we have some that want to loose it..period.

I can’t believe we are going to lose against this guy, it’s the end of the GOP

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 3:59 PM

That is the best thing that could happen to this country at this point.

ClassicCon on September 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM

bazil9 on September 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM

David Krone: But I’m still voting for ya. Gimme a hug!

SagebrushPuppet on September 9, 2012 at 4:25 PM

djl130 on September 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

One thing I’ve noticed is that it is mostly men who are running around with their hair on fire shreiking, “it’s over, we’re doomed!”

It’s the women are resolutely stating, “like hell we are.”

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

You know what? I see a really troubling theme in the comments this weekend. Many of you have given up. You would rather see Obama win than just be quiet and support Romney. What is wrong with all of you? I imagine the Daily Kos is reading this – lapping it up. “We’ve done it! We’ve done it!” They won’t vote because their tender principles are bruise!” This is the bottom line, ROMNEY IS BETTER THAN OBAMA. That is all. HE IS BETTER THAN DESCENDING INTO THE UNKNOWN. Obama’s second term is the unknown. Everyone needs to quit whining and at least stop complaining until AFTER the election. Because, even if Romney wins, the war will just be starting. Can you IMAGINE what they will be like? Like a lion with a thorn in its paw, that’s what.

djl130 on September 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

I hear ya, I really do.

I heard ‘ya’ when you (rhetorically) said that about McCain.

And Bush.

And Dole.

And Bush.

Um, look, I’m not going to vote for Obama, and I will vote for Romney, though I’ve said before that I wouldn’t. So let’s put that aside and entertain a thought experiment for a moment. Tell me how many election cycles you think it takes of the RNC putting up squish candidates that a) mostly lose, and/or b) are only marginally – if any – better than the lib in terms of the driving the country towards financial ruin. How many more crappy candidates should we allow the RNC to force upon us before “vote for him because the lib is Satan” stops becoming reason enough to vote for the RNC piece of crap candidate.

Thanks in advance for your considered reply.

Midas on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I’ve always been taught is to have a Plan B. And it is really disheartening that you, that this White House did not have a Plan B.”

Several jaws dropped as the Hill staffer blasted the president to his face.

Ummm, yummy. More please. Think the MSM will say anything about this. NO (except, of course, the Wash Post)

bluealice on September 9, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Key West Reader on September 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

yeah, imagine that. Heard something about this a while ago..
thumbs up.

bazil9 on September 9, 2012 at 4:28 PM

EeyoreAir.com?

thebrokenrattle on September 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM

EeyoreAir.com?

thebrokenrattle on September 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Yup, today anyway. Most posts link to anti Romney stuff. Where are the links to the MTP interview, or Ryans?? Where are the posts about their campaign stops with huge turnout??

bluealice on September 9, 2012 at 4:36 PM

THIS IS WHO KROLE IS… IN HIS OWN WORDS

thatsafactjack on September 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I’ve noticed that, too. Interesting. Good call, Flora.

thatsafactjack on September 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM

It is to bad no one will know about this other than the people that read the book. The liberal media sure wont report it.

KBird on September 9, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Sorry…. KRONE.

thatsafactjack on September 9, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Like a lion with a thorn in its paw, that’s what.

djl130 on September 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

In his stone, not in his “paw”.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Oh sure, the administration pointed to the 96,000 private sector jobs added to the economy last month. But it takes 150,000 new jobs just to keep pace with population growth, and it would take more than 350,000 new jobs each month for the next three years to bring the unemployment down to a respectable 6 percent.

Yes, that’s how deep the hole is.

And you know the first rule of holes? When you’re in one stop digging. But Obama gave every indication Thursday night he’s not finished trying to “manage” the economy.

“I’m asking you to rally around a set of goals for your country,” he said, “goals in manufacturing, energy, education, national security and the deficit; a real achievable plan that will lead to new jobs, more opportunity, and rebuild this economy on a stronger foundation.”

Goals? Or a Soviet-style five-year plan with more giveaways to corporate cronies who promise to create renewable energy and end up, well, blowing hot air. Boston Herald

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Yup, today anyway. Most posts link to anti Romney stuff. Where are the links to the MTP interview, or Ryans?? Where are the posts about their campaign stops with huge turnout??

bluealice on September 9, 2012 at 4:36 PM

I dunno when it became hip to be a downer but I, for one, will not embrace this pussy cynic-chic. It’s for losers; folks, we are not losers. We’re gonna win.

thebrokenrattle on September 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Plan B???

Any competent business person, military person or politician is contingency planning way past Plan Z.

Linh_My on September 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM

How many more crappy candidates should we allow the RNC to force upon us before “vote for him because the lib is Satan” stops becoming reason enough to vote for the RNC piece of crap candidate.

Thanks in advance for your considered reply.

Midas on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I have no idea how long it will take to nominate a “Reagan”. But when it came to legalizing illegals, he too could have fallen under the category of “squish” candidates. All have their strengths and weaknesses, but McCain would have been better than Obama and Romney will have some idea about how to turn around USA Inc.

And I don’t think “the lesser of the two evils” is so very dreadful a reason, when the greater evil is Obama.

clnurnberg on September 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

djl130 on September 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

I think a lot of the posts that come across as “just giving up” is complete frustration. In the end, these same folks will vote against Obama or for Romney. Either way, it’s a vote to get the current occupant out of the White House.

My hope is that those who are disgruntled right now are more measured in their words if they want to be successful in turning former Obama supporters.

DrStock on September 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

It’s the women are resolutely stating, “like hell we are.”

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Amen :)

gophergirl on September 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Amen :)

gophergirl on September 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Double Amen!

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Obama is an unmitigated disaster and the US economy is in the toilet.

So, why is this tool ahead in the polls and why are Americans voting for a re-run of the first 4 horrendous years?

Sparky5253 on September 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Two word answer: Public education Mitt Romney

DrStock on September 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Mitt Romney is almost identical to Barack Obama.

He wins things will get a whole lot worse. Because at least now we have hope that some in the GOP might have a chance to get power and stop this destruction.

With Mitt that would evaporate. The Press would blame every single Obama mistake on Mitt. Mitt would follow the Obama Agenda on most things so this charge would even be true.

Mitt Romney only stands for the extreme left of the GOP. He is a Democrat 99%. Republican 1%.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM

gophergirl on September 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Glad you teams won today, gg. :)

thatsafactjack on September 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM

@Midas

I understand what you are saying. But, until we can get a majority of people to vote for whomever the un-squish candidate is, we need to keep rallying around what we’ve got. Now, maybe it will be Rubio next time. I don’t know. Who is it? Who is this un-squish person who can get over 50% of the vote? Where are they? Who are they? Because, they weren’t running this time around. Which one of the people running this time would be better off right now? Michelle Bachman? I don’t think so, they would be ANNIHILATING her right now. Gingrich? I wish – but he blew it a long time ago when he kept screwing around. If he had stayed in at least one of his two previous marriages, he might have had it. But, Calista just made them FODDER. Herman Cain? Again – whatever happened with those crazy women destroyed him. Ron Paul? Ummm – no. John Huntsman? Or whatever his name is… That is who dems who were disappointed in Obama told me they would vote for, but there must be a reason for THAT and they would all turn tail and run (like they are now doing) back to their beloved Obama. Rick Santorum? Again, they would have made mince meat of him by now, and he only has political experience, not the business experience Romney has. Pawlenty proved he was a quitter. Geez. Just be quiet. For now. FOR NOW. Let’s pretend to be uber hyped. Let’s fake it so effectively we win a damn academy award for goodness sake! If Romney wins, then let’s start putting pressure on him. Okay? But let’s try to rally round for now. Because this is where we are. This is what it is.

djl130 on September 9, 2012 at 4:46 PM

It’s the women are resolutely stating, “like hell we are.”

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Sing is sista!!

alice

bluealice on September 9, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Obama never has a “Plan A”

Art on September 9, 2012 at 4:46 PM

It’s the women are resolutely stating, “like hell we are.”

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Sounds about right.
Anyway with Romney/Ryan and more and more people gainfully employed and off the dole, the grand desire for entitlements will fade. Hell, Fluke might even be willing to pay for her own rubbers!

clnurnberg on September 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Amen :)

gophergirl on September 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Double Amen!

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Hear hear! Triple Amen!

Funny, I didn’t notice that.

bazil9 on September 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Obama never has a “Plan A”

Art on September 9, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Right… His is more like Plan 9 from Outer Space..

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Yep. It took someone with private sector experience to point out just how naked and small the president was. This book is looking like a must read, but I’m not sure it’ll do my blood pressure much good. It’s like having all your worst fears about Obama’s incompetency confirmed, but watching the msm ignore them or gloss over because he’s so much more experienced now.

CitizenEgg on September 9, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Amen :)

gophergirl on September 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Double Amen!

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 4:44 PM

YAY, GO GIRLS! Let’s bring Romney over the finish line and vanquish Obama! Let’s show him what a war on women REALLY looks like!

djl130 on September 9, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Obama comes from Academia, where all of his policies work in theory, and so failure means insisting on sticking with the failed policies because they’ll eventually work.

The biggest problem with Academia is that those who are elite workers there can basically get away with anything short of murder, and they will never be punished.

And totally unlike the private sector, Academia can turn out shoddy products (poor students) and be rewarded for doing so, not punished for doing so.

Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Woodward is going to be mighty disappointed.

His book is a nothingburger and the only reason the media will give him any attention at all is to discredit him.

Feel the power Mister Woodward of the fully operational media death star on your pitful “booooooook”.

PappyD61 on September 9, 2012 at 4:54 PM

There was a reason for adamant opposition to the 2-stage plan. It was vigorously opposed by Democrats on Wall Street and the anonymous Democrat “economists” in the business sector whom I always cite but never actually identify by name- that would have cast a pall of far greater uncertainty into 2012.

bayam on September 9, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM

LOL he’s done it again.

Ed Henry Ed Henry ‏@edhenryTV

Girl at Ohio diner asks VP to call call her grandpa: “Hey pop, this is Joe Biden. How ya’ doing man? .. Oh, this grandma. Well how are ya?”

And this is downright icky. But it begs the question, “what if a Republican had done it?”

Awkward: Joe Biden is photographed with a female biker in his lap

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Academics tend to assume away reality when formulating their little theories. Then they marvel at each other and give each other tenure. Most of the crap they’ve written in the past 50 years could be burned for fuel and the world would not be one iota worse off.

clnurnberg on September 9, 2012 at 4:56 PM

The upper left hand corner of DRUDGE. You may want to take a look at it.
Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Speaking of Drudge, has HA discussed the biker chick sitting in Biden’s lap?

txhsmom on September 9, 2012 at 4:56 PM

It’s hard to say where your assumptions are coming from, if not talk radio.

bayam on September 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

So sayeth the Paulie Krugman Disciple…

Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2012 at 4:56 PM

I have no idea how long it will take to nominate a “Reagan”. But when it came to legalizing illegals, he too could have fallen under the category of “squish” candidates. All have their strengths and weaknesses, but McCain would have been better than Obama and Romney will have some idea about how to turn around USA Inc.

And I don’t think “the lesser of the two evils” is so very dreadful a reason, when the greater evil is Obama.

clnurnberg on September 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

McCain would have given us Obama this time anyway.

But then Obama would have come into office with Amnesty already done. Heck he would have also come into office with Obama Care v.5 already done as well. The squish that McCain is we might have the exact same Obama Care but a bipartisan accomplishment. Then it would be all set up for Obama to make it totally Government run.

There is no logical argument that the GOP would be better of today had McCain won. Most likely the GOP would not even exist had McCain won.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 4:58 PM

And totally unlike the private sector, Academia can turn out shoddy products (poor students) and be rewarded for doing so, not punished for doing so.

Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Then it is time to start punishing them.

tom daschle concerned on September 9, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Hill Staffer chewed-out President….

Thoroughly justified.
Probably one of the few times in his life that he was ever been criticized so harshly, with the exception of being corrected by Frank Marshall Davis for committing the ultimate sin of “bourgeois thinking”!

Another Drew on September 9, 2012 at 4:59 PM

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