Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on September 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

Full-court press from the Republican ticket this morning, with Romney on “Meet the Press” for his first non-Fox Sunday chat of the campaign and Ryan hitting both ABC and CBS, presumably to answer Bill Clinton’s speech at length. I wonder if that’s all been planned for weeks or if the mounting evidence of a bounce for O forced Team Mitt to play defense more aggressively than they anticipated.

If you’re not up for that, tune into “Fox News Sunday” for a deep-dive on the glories of Obamanomics with Glenn Hubbard and Austan Goolsbee. The line-up via WaPo:

NBC’s Meet the Press: Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney; San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro; Peggy Noonan, Wall Street Journal; E.J. Dionne, Brookings Institution and Washington Post; former Secretary of Education Bill Bennett; Chuck Todd, NBC

CBS’ Face the Nation: Republican vice presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI); White House senior adviser David Plouffe; David Sanger, New York Times; John Dickerson, CBS; Michael Gerson, Washington Post; Dee Dee Myers, Vanity Fair

ABC’s This Week: Republican vice presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI); Newark Mayor Cory Booker; Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY); George Will, ABC; Cokie Roberts, ABC; Paul Krugman, New York Times

Fox News Sunday: Glenn Hubbard, senior economic adviser for the Romney campaign; former Chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, Austan Goolsbee; Saratoga Springs, UT Mayor Mia Love

CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley: Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA); Newt Gingrich; Austin Ligon, co-founder of CarMax; former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Peter Baker, New York Times; A.B Stoddard, The Hill


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gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 11:05 AM

I used to twist my gumby and pokey into the shape of a pretzel too. Still didn’t make them a pretzel.

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Agreed. Wallace totally destroyed Goolsbee, bigtime.

It was awesome.

wolly4321 on September 9, 2012 at 11:14 AM

What a dud.

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 11:05 AM

It would seem duds are something you know quite a bit about. Coward.

Bmore on September 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Mitt said preexisting conditions, as it relates to healthcare, need to be addressed by the government.

He is correct. Something a Republican congress should of addressed years ago.

rickyricardo on September 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Someone who has a pre-existing condition is one who did not have insurance when they acquired this “condition” therefore it existed “before insurance.”

I do not know of a case where someone had a full coverage health care insurance policy and came down with an illness that was not covered before and after the condition was acquired and treated.

There are caps on policies that are usually something like $50 million that may cap coverage for someone.

Vince on September 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM

I used to twist my gumby and pokey into the shape of a pretzel too. Still didn’t make them a pretzel.

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Lol!!! ; )

Bmore on September 9, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Most ex-President in recent memory, including Reagan when he was alive, keep a low profile and refrain from delving back in politics or criticizing his successors. Carter/Clinton marked the classless departure from the tradition.

bayview on September 9, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Okay.. I’ll amend my statement. I’d like the Rs to have a cool, rock star personality ala Bill Clinton who has a high approval rating among the unwashed masses. Palin doesn’t count because lots of indies I know hate her.

Illinidiva on September 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Romney saying there are parts of Obamacare he wants to keep will really motivate the base to go out there and volunteer! What a dud.

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Concerned, troll?

profitsbeard on September 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM

You think the current system to finance health care is sustainable without some reform?

bayview on September 9, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Did I imply that it was?

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Maybe you can go and fight the good fight against those I mistook you for in the “Romney: There are parts of ObamaCare that I want to keep” thread in Headlines.

bayview on September 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Libs get pwned on chat shows today. Life is good.

Philly on September 9, 2012 at 11:19 AM

On Meet the Depressed, Peggy still looks depressed that Boy Wonder let her down. Bill Bennett was the adult on the panel. What is it with Dems like Dionne (and Chucky) that lowering marginal tax rates does not necessarily mean lower taxes (even without JFK and Reagan style growth) if you remove deductions? Are they totally math challenged? (yeah, it’s a rhetorical question)

MichiCanuck on September 9, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Mitt said preexisting conditions, as it relates to healthcare, need to be addressed by the government.

He is correct. Something a Republican congress should of addressed years ago.

rickyricardo on September 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM

This is the equivalent of being allowed to purchase car insurance after you have been in a wreck to cover the wreck, or allowed to buy homeowners insurance to cover your house after it has burned down. This is no longer insurance.

There should be portability rules such that if you have had coverage and need to change from one carrier to another because cross-state health insurance is still not allowed, but covering “pre-existing conditions” is no longer insurance, it’s charity.

AZfederalist on September 9, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Okay.. I’ll amend my statement. I’d like the Rs to have a cool, rock star personality ala Bill Clinton who has a high approval rating among the unwashed masses. Palin doesn’t count because lots of indies I know hate her.

Illinidiva on September 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Clinton is doing Obama commercials here in Missouri and believe me, he doesn’t come across as a rock star. He sounds like every other democrat with “those are the policies that got us into this mess” and “tax breaks for the rich” comments.

He also looks like an old guy.

Vince on September 9, 2012 at 11:25 AM

O/T…But tasty

This is pretty brutal…aaaand it’s from Maureen Dowd?

“HOW did the one formerly known as The One go for two?

In his renomination acceptance speech here on Thursday night, he told us that America’s problems were tougher to solve than he had originally thought.

And that’s why he has kindly agreed to give us more time.

Because, after all, it’s our fault…”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/opinion/sunday/dowd-playing-now-hail-to-us-chiefs.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&

workingclass artist on September 9, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Mia Love is pretty awesome on Fox this morning..

She’s pretty awesome period.

wolly4321 on September 9, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Clinton is doing Obama commercials here in Missouri and believe me, he doesn’t come across as a rock star….He also looks like an old guy.

People in MO know the liar in chief to be an old lech and sexual predator.His arrogance is extraordinary…he’s been impeached, held in contempt of federal courts and disbarred. My God, what a low low life. So I’m gonna take his word for it?

gracie on September 9, 2012 at 11:32 AM

The MSM is nothing more than the announcers for the “Home” team. Team Obama can only win if Romney beats himself. Notice the the increase in “sky is falling” posters this weekend. Team Obama goes for the knock out punch every time they have an advantage whether or not it is real or imagined. They also know the only way Mitt loses is if he beats himself. While the Obama team continues to go for the knock out, the Romney team is playing the long game. I guess that is plenty of sports analogies for now…

GeorgiaJarhead on September 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Clinton is doing Obama commercials here in Missouri and believe me, he doesn’t come across as a rock star….He also looks like an old guy.

Same in TX … And same assessment.

pambi on September 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Clinton is doing Obama commercials here in Missouri and believe me, he doesn’t come across as a rock star. He sounds like every other democrat with “those are the policies that got us into this mess” and “tax breaks for the rich” comments.

He also looks like an old guy.

Vince on September 9, 2012 at 11:25 AM

He is an old guy waggin’ an old finger…nuff said

Romney doin well in this poll
http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-romney-10-percent-lead-unskewed-data-from-arg-poll

workingclass artist on September 9, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Jennifer Rubin has a post up at Right Turn about ad buys in Wisconsin..she also mentions this:

As I learned in my lengthy phone call with the senior advisor and other conversations over the last week with Romney’s top advisors, much of what you read about the campaign from “unnamed” Republican officials (at what level? based on what information?) suggesting the Romney team is worried its “behind”or is slipping in states like Ohio is bunk. (Those fretful, anonymous sources are probably the same sources who were hand-wringing over the selection of Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) as VP, which turned out to be one of the best decisions of the campaign.)

The campaign doesn’t expect this race to be like 1980 when the playing field tipped heavily at the end after the debates. This is a neck-and-neck race as far as the Romney team is concerned. The campaign believes that each side has a floor of about 47 percent; that’s where the campaign will be played for the rest of the race.

Working to Romney’s advantage is the Obama team’s bubble of arrogance. What else would explain the Obama team’s boast that a disproportionate amount of votes will break for the incumbent? That would be a historical anomaly, one seemingly based on no hard data.

One explanation is that Obama staffers are telling themselves a comforting scenario. It’s hard to pump yourself up to work 18-hour days for months if you don’t see payoff at the end. Since Obama has not broken 50 percent nationally or in key battleground states, a last-minute break their way (in defiance of the truism that undecideds break for the challenger) is comforting, if not logical.

But the public chest-beating is also the telltale sign of a candidate and his flacks who think that normal rules don’t apply to them, that Obama is so special they can defy gravity. The distortion is magnified greatly by the Beltway media whom the Obama team courts incessantly. The Romney senior adviser calls it a “202 area code”campaign, referring to the phone prefix for Washington, D.C. For whatever reason (a desire for praise, the delusion that media hold sway), the Obama team seeks refuge in easily spun media reports that will dutifully regurgitate its theory of the race. (And when not spun by the Obama team, editors eager for “clicks” online dream up storylines and send their reporters to piece together bits and pieces to fit the preordained narrative, regardless of whether it is an accurate representation of the race.) Of course, the Beltway media fixation ignores the hard truth that liberal Beltway press and pundits have never been less in touch and less influential. The quintessential example is Clint Eastwood.

Terrye on September 9, 2012 at 11:40 AM

I hear PPP has some poll out that supposedly shows Obama up big in Ohio…I also heard that not even the Obama people are buying it.

Terrye on September 9, 2012 at 11:41 AM

This is the equivalent of being allowed to purchase car insurance after you have been in a wreck to cover the wreck, or allowed to buy homeowners insurance to cover your house after it has burned down. This is no longer insurance.

There should be portability rules such that if you have had coverage and need to change from one carrier to another because cross-state health insurance is still not allowed, but covering “pre-existing conditions” is no longer insurance, it’s charity.

AZfederalist on September 9, 2012 at 11:24 AM

That’s not the way it worked here. If you were treated for a knee injury when you were twenty, had insurance, kept insurance for twenty years, were without insurance for two weeks for some reason and signed back up, then ten years later needed knee surgery, you were denied because it was a pre existing condition. It happened all the time, and it just wasn’t right.

Paddington on September 9, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Oh boy! Just came in to check this fine morning and it looks like I should be on suicide watch!Yes I don’t like the Rasmussen poll either, but I certainly don’t live and die by it.The bounce for Obama was inevitable. It had already been written in the MSM’s script. Give it a week or two before you all jump off any bridges…

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Give it a week or two before you all jump off any bridges…

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 11:51 AM

See if you can talk them down off the ledge. Facts didn’t work. Ridicule didn’t work. Distraction didn’t work.

Yoop on September 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM

What could Jerry Brown possibly have to say?

tacodawn on September 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Are you the same clown that has been trolling at Backstreets? Nobody wants you there either.

This guy is a professional s–t stirrer, folks.

rockmom on September 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Relax people….the Dem convention stifled Mitts bounce…and now we are seeing theirs. Watch some football, eat some Cheetos and remember that the debates and more $$ in the kitty can change everything. Ryan will own Biden…and Mitt will do to Obama what he did to Newt in the primary debates in FL.
Preparation & Competence = Win

This can and will all turn around and the republic will be saved.

camaraderie on September 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/opinion/sunday/dowd-playing-now-hail-to-us-chiefs.html?_r=1

What happened? Hell frozen over?

bayview on September 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

It’s called a bounce for a reason. What goes up, must come down. Let’s see where things stand in a couple of weeks and after the first debate. The bad news for barack? Bill Clinton, his “ambassador of explaining shit,” won’t be standing in for him at the debate.

Rational Thought on September 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

rockmom gumbyandpokey also soils Ace HQ under the name toldyaso. Says same thing at both blogs. You are right.

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Will the millions of the frazzled unemployed and under employed vote for the ONE?

d1carter on September 9, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Will the millions of the frazzled unemployed and under employed vote for the ONE?

d1carter on September 9, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Talk about crazy. PPP is going to release a poll today that has Obama ahead in Ohio by a bigger margin than he got in the 2008 win there?

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 12:25 PM

rockmom on September 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Professional as in paid? We’ve got some long time Eeyores that would like to get in on that scam.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I didn’t see the wonder twin empty suit from San Antonio on Meet the Depressed this morning, but I did see Corey Booker, another fast talking, euphemism heavy, detail deficient legend in his own mind lightweight. The guy is the incompetent mayor of a run-down NYC suburban dump, not even as large a “city” as Anaheim, yet he’s a “national star”. Talk about setting the bar low. And Paul Krugman’s blind, irrational hatred of Paul Ryan is a perfect example of why Ryan was the right choice.

fitzfong on September 9, 2012 at 12:36 PM

“Professional as in paid?”

Yep, I’m being paid to point out what many others are pointing out, lol!

If Obama’s lead holds into Thursday, I can’t wait for the justified panic to set in even with the most partisan hacks. If Romney is still down Thursday, it’s no longer just a bounce and a solidified lead.

Maybe holding a convention where only Clint Eastwood dared criticize the Messiah wasn’t the best idea in the world? Maybe that’s why the GOP convention floor looked like it was full of zombies, while the Dems were fired up and energized?

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

George Will said today on This Week that if the Republicans can’t win this year with the bad jobs reports, they should get out of politics.

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

What’s magical about Thursday? All elections are all over the map, it’s not over until the votes are counted. Dramatic emotional swings help pharmaceuticals and group therapy coordinators. Would love to hear about any group therapy interchanges.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM

“What’s magical about Thursday?”

If it’s just a convention bump, those days numbers would have rolled off the average by then. If Obama’s lead holds then, it’s solid and won’t be broken.

And Obama is being super smart by putting together his “blocks of voters” strategy. With the demographics being what they are, it could be that the GOP just cannot win the Presidency anymore.

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Maybe holding a convention where only Clint Eastwood dared criticize the Messiah wasn’t the best idea in the world? Maybe that’s why the GOP convention floor looked like it was full of zombies, while the Dems were fired up and energized?

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Well, LSD, weeds etc has been proved to work, and the dims and their leader are versed in the use of said mood enhancers and hallucinogens…like the crazy woman from Mi who was yelliing and screaming and jumping up and down that podium, she looked like she overdose on three not one drug…that was not withiin normal parameters…

jimver on September 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM

George Will said today on This Week that if the Republicans RINO’s can’t win this year with the bad jobs reports, they should get out of politics.

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

There I FIFY and G Will.

bgibbs1000 on September 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Will the millions of the frazzled unemployed and under employed vote for the ONE?

d1carter on September 9, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Talk about crazy. PPP is going to release a poll today that has Obama ahead in Ohio by a bigger margin than he got in the 2008 win there?

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 12:25 PM

That’s all they have left…there is no way in hell O wins this year, no chance, nada, 0, zilch…this is all depress the Rep base tactics, as if anybody on ourside who already made up their minds would be that dumb stay home and not vote in such important elections because of some stupid polls..just goes to show how stupid the dims are if they think this can work…

jimver on September 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Maybe holding a convention where only Clint Eastwood dared criticize the Messiah wasn’t the best idea in the world? Maybe that’s why the GOP convention floor looked like it was full of zombies, while the Dems were fired up and energized?

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

The Dems got free condoms from Planned Parenthood…so there’s that

workingclass artist on September 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

gumbyandpokey on September 9, 2012 at 12:53 PM

If the GOP isn’t capable of winning the presidency due to the looter mentality take over, than we are lost. I am not ready to concede, way too early.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Gov. Romney should run ads showing Obama telling an interviewer that 300,000 jobs wasn’t good enough during the Bush administration.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Mitt said preexisting conditions, as it relates to healthcare, need to be addressed by the government.

He is correct. Something a Republican congress should of addressed years ago.

rickyricardo on September 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Someone who has a pre-existing condition is one who did not have insurance when they acquired this “condition” therefore it existed “before insurance.”

I do not know of a case where someone had a full coverage health care insurance policy and came down with an illness that was not covered before and after the condition was acquired and treated.

There are caps on policies that are usually something like $50 million that may cap coverage for someone.

Vince on September 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM

The video.

This destroys his plan to repeal it completely. It is all or nothing with 50 Senators. You can not pick and choose.

Shame on you Mitt Romney.

You are a complete liar with no remorse.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

If the GOP isn’t capable of winning the presidency due to the looter mentality take over, than we are lost. I am not ready to concede, way too early.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

But then, as terrible as it might be be, it wouldn’t have much to do with Romney or the GOP really, it would be just an effect of demographics, with the mooching and looting segments arriving at majority in this country…

jimver on September 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Without the 2010 turnout and splits, Romney is toast. It is not the libs but Romney’s own “reset” to the left that is depressing turnout.

Starlink on September 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Balloney, it’s not, the enthusiasm gap as measured acweek ago by different polling agencies is in favour of the cons, not the dims….so, stop the spin…

jimver on September 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Without the 2010 turnout and splits, Romney is toast. It is not the libs but Romney’s own “reset” to the left that is depressing turnout.

Starlink on September 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM

I think the turn out will actually be very good. The people will just not be voting for Mitt Romney.

The people understand that Mitt was a huge mistake. They also understand that many other candidates are well worth voting for. The Down Ticket that Sarah Palin is working on.

But Periebus must be forced out. He is completely responsible for allowing the Democrat Mitt Romney to be our nominee and hiding who Mitt actually is.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Balloney, it’s not, the enthusiasm gap as measured acweek ago by different polling agencies is in favour of the cons, not the dims….so, stop the spin…

jimver on September 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

It is only now becoming known who the real Mitt Romney is.

It is only after the conventions that most Americans tune in to politics.

Thus at the most important time Mitt Romney decides to take back his lying promise to Repeal Obama Care.

This is horrible optics.

Romney is protraying himself as a flipflopper and a LIAR.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 1:38 PM

This is just the reaction today to his interview this morning. We will see how it polls in a few days with “conservative” republicans. I will make this prediction, that if he keeps this up, because now he has opened the door to more specifics, he will by November depress 2010 turnouts, which was a record. I hope not, because he is going to need them all.

Starlink on September 9, 2012 at 1:39 PM

I think the voters are smarter than you are thinking.

The Tea Party needs to encourage voters to come out and vote for Conservatives. Let them know it is fine to not vote for Romney.

But they are smart enough to figure it out themselves.

We all know Sarah Palin means vote for the Down Ticket not for Romney.

We all know she was not invited to the Convention because she is not actually supporting Romney. That she is unlikely to actually vote for him.

I predict a huge number of blank votes for President.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Starlink on September 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Have you gone to Romney’s website and read his plan to repeal and replace Obamacare?

Flora Duh on September 9, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Thus at the most important time Mitt Romney decides to take back his lying promise to Repeal Obama Care.

This is horrible optics.

Romney is protraying himself as a flipflopper and a LIAR.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Blah, blah, blah. god…blah, blh, Satan….blah…summed up your usual discourse and narrative…

jimver on September 9, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Starlink on September 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM

We knew going in he was a moderate. I don’t think that allowing “kids” to stay on insurance policies is going to hurt the bottom line of insurance companies. Did he say how the pre-exsisting situation will be “fixed” because apparently although it is a statistically small number of people involved, it is considered a big problem in the eyes of the public. If the Tea Party thought it was done with their work on the election of Gov. Romney, I would be shocked. I think the best we can hope for in politicians is that they are trainable.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2012 at 1:48 PM

She is all class and will support Romney and has made getting rid of O’Bama a big deal.

Starlink on September 9, 2012 at 1:59 PM

That was real stupid to not allow the Tea Party to be mentioned. They actually would say Paulies as a code word for Tea Party.

What I pointed out I agree with.

But there is a difference between outward support and your actual vote.

I doubt many believe Sarah will actually pull the lever for Romney though at the same time if you ask her who she will vote for she will say Romney I agree.

One of the reasons I doubt the numbers Romney is getting. Many in the privacy of the voting vote will not be able to stomach actually voting for Obama or Romney.

I will throw you a bone though.

My Army Colonel Brother in Law in Texas (although he travels around a lot) says he is hearing from a lot of Democrats that they hate Obama and will vote for Romney. My father is saying the same thing about many of the Democrats he knows in the Senior Citizen age group.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 2:08 PM

MITT’S PLAN
On his first day in office, Mitt Romney will issue an executive order that paves the way for the federal government to issue Obamacare waivers to all fifty states. He will then work with Congress to repeal the full legislation as quickly as possible.

In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens. The federal government’s role will be to help markets work by creating a level playing field for competition.

Starlink on September 9, 2012 at 2:14 PM

You believe Santa Clause will bring you a toy too?

This promise must have expired.

Otherwise why did he say quite the opposite today? Why did he NOT repeat this?

Reality is he has to keep all of Obama Care or none of it. There is no way he will have 60 votes in the Senate to change it to his liking.

But quite likely thanks to Tod Akin that he will have 50 votes to repeal it. He said NO to that very strongly today. The mandate is a budget item. According to the SCTOUS ruling it is not severable thus repeal the mandate and the entire ACA is repealed.

The Replace would take 60 votes though. Romney does not have that thus he can not replace it. Thus he will keep it.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM

George will is right if the GOP can’t beat the worst prez ever the republican party should just go away

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Still mashing out that old drunken toon Hashy?

tom daschle concerned on September 9, 2012 at 3:00 PM

George will is right if the GOP can’t beat the worst prez ever the republican party should just go away

Conservative4ev on September 9, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Indeed the Tea Party should replace it with the motto.

RINOs need not apply.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Whigs.

Bmore on September 9, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Whigs.

Bmore on September 9, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Who were also destroyed by the Elites in the party ignoring the grass roots and passing rules just like the GOP just did allowing them to choose and replace elected delegates. To change the rules as a dictatorship. The GOP has become the modern Whig Party.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Still mashing out that old drunken toon Hashy?

tom daschle concerned on September 9, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Still a Saul Alinsky Troll disciple I see.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 3:57 PM

what will mittens say in the debates re: obamacare? (only his hairdresser knows for sure!)

Pragmatic on September 9, 2012 at 5:20 PM

I’ve waited until this evening to watch Austan Goober on FNS. I decided to have a great time at family events today before watching Chris Wallace nuke him. Of course, he is blaming our unemployment and economic crisis on everything but Barry’s loser policies. He’s blamed a bad global economy already. I have a feeling this is going downhill from here.

Philly on September 9, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Goober’s facial expressions and body language are dismissive and condescending, let alone his words, when Chris Wallace questions him about tax hikes in a depressed economy. Even when confronted with sound bites from Dear Leader about the timing being wrong, he still insists the president never said such a thing.

Philly on September 9, 2012 at 6:08 PM

What objective people said Mitt Romney’s plan will fail, Goober? Barry and Slow Joe?

Philly on September 9, 2012 at 6:15 PM

David Lauria reminds me of Edmond O’Brien.

This CPOD prompted me to find that both are from New York and served in the military, Viet Nam and WWII, respectively. Lauria is of Italian descent and O’Brien of Irish.

My New Yorker ex-mother-in-law (Irish/Polish descent) told me that when she began dating her Italian-American husband (my ex-father-in-law), their relationship was frowned upon by both families because of the low regard each had for the other’s ethnicity. Theirs was then considered a “mixed marriage.”

Today, the divide is non-existent as those immigrant groups have melted in the pot to become American Americans. What they have in common is their God fearing, working class roots and identities.

texacalirose on September 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Oops. I just posted the above on the wrong site. (But I hope everyone at HA enjoys it anyway :o)

texacalirose on September 9, 2012 at 6:22 PM

This is on Romney’s website right now under Healthcare: (excerpted)
Promote Free Markets and Fair Competition

•Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage

I didn’t see the Meet the Press interview today. Is the above different from what his website says?

Mitsouko on September 9, 2012 at 9:04 PM

The bad news for barack? Bill Clinton, his “ambassador of explaining shit,” won’t be standing in for him at the debate.

Rational Thought on September 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

This just in: By executive order, Obama appoints Bill Clinton as his sub in the debates. Biden on his own.

Sterling Holobyte on September 10, 2012 at 1:19 AM

This just in…Romney flip-flopping and wants to keep all of the popular parts of Obama-care. Is anybody surprised?

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-10/romney-says-he-would-keep-parts-of-obama-health-care-law

ZippyZ on September 10, 2012 at 2:45 AM

This is on Romney’s website right now under Healthcare: (excerpted)
Promote Free Markets and Fair Competition

•Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage

I didn’t see the Meet the Press interview today. Is the above different from what his website says?

Mitsouko on September 9, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Nope, theexavt same thing….

jimver on September 10, 2012 at 7:56 AM

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