An “Obama bounce”… in gun sales?

posted at 12:31 pm on September 9, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

What with all of the Keynesian-ish methods with which President Obama has tried and spectacularly failed to stimulate the economy and to provide boosts to various politically-favored economic sectors, I have to confess that it’s just the tiniest bit gratifying that one of the few industries coming through the economic downturn with superbly flying colors is probably the one industry that many hardcore liberals would like to see shut down altogether. In 2008, gun sales surged after President Obama’s election, part of the explanation for which was that people feared a progressive gun-control crackdown. It was quite the healthy bounce for the world of firearms, except that the bounce hasn’t let up — at all.

Although nothing too drastic has come out of the current administration in terms of gun regulations (alas, but for that dastardly NRA and their horrid lobbying money preventing us from having a real conversation about firearms in this country, oh the humanity!), it seems that the prospect of a second Obama term (in which he’ll no longer be thinking about reelection and will hence have more, cough cough, “flexibility”) isn’t doing anything to quell the boom.  CNBC reports that the gun industry has seen sustained high sales during Obama’s tenure, and is still going more than strong as we wend our way towards November:

Smith & Wesson stock Friday was zooming, thanks to a stellar earnings report. The firearms maker also boosted its outlook for the rest of the year. Because of the strong business, its backlog of orders more than doubled from the same quarter last year, the company is concentrating on boosting production and building inventory.

“We are underserving the market at this moment, we all know that, and that’s a great opportunity going forward for us,” CEO James Debney said in a conference call with analysts.

And another gun maker, Sturm, Ruger & Co., also hit a milestone of sorts in terms of meeting consumer demand. It produced its one-millionth gun of the year…well ahead of last year’s pace.

“It took us nearly all of 2011 to build one million firearms, but in 2012 we accomplished it on August 15th,” said Ruger President and CEO Mike Fifer in a statement. …

“I should put Obama’s picture on the wall up there,” said one New Jersey gun salesman, asking not to be identified. “I’d name him salesman of the month!”

Besides the possible cultural explanation that gun ownership is simply becoming more acceptable (bipartisanship, huzzah!) and that shooting sports are becoming more popular, there’s also the theory that the terrible economy itself is fueling people’s fears of extreme-survival scenarios, and they’re taking precautions. Either way, because of President Obama directly or because of the awful economy he’s fomented, the liberals’ hero has been a catalyst for gun sales like no other. I do so hope the irony isn’t lost on them.

The Democratic National Committee’s platform at their convention last week was pretty iffy as to their gun-related agenda, but most definitely left the door open for further gun-control measures — here’s what they had to say, for your interpretation:

Firearms. We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements—like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole—so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.


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Full up?

Bmore on September 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

same as 4 years ago, and nothing happened.

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Buy a gun on election day, shut down the background check computers, just like black Friday……;-)

angrymike on September 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

And the the range is much more crowded these days.

justltl on September 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

“I should put Obama’s picture on the wall up there,” said one New Jersey gun salesman, asking not to be identified. “I’d name him salesman of the month!”

That is golden! Great job gun companies! Keep making them as fast as you can so we can defend ourselves if need be?
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letget on September 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

“I should put Obama’s picture on the wall up there,” said one New Jersey gun salesman, asking not to be identified. “I’d name him salesman of the month!”

Obama has at least boosted manufacturing of firearms and straw.

Bitter Clinger on September 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM

An “Obama bounce”… in gun sales?

How do you know it’s not a Romney bounce in gun sales? Romney is the first governor in the nation to ban so-called assault weapons. In reality Romney’s is one of the most notorious gun-grabbers in America, not Obama.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

I bought my first guns the Saturday after the SCOTUS ObamaCare decision. It brought my blood pressure down.

Raever on September 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

How do you know it’s not a Romney bounce in gun sales? Romney is the first governor in the nation to ban so-called assault weapons. In reality Romney’s is one of the most notorious gun-grabbers in America, not Obama.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

ha,ha,ha,ha,choke,ha,ha…

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Ed……
Lets have a poll of ppl who have purchased one or more guns in the last year……
I bought two………;-)

angrymike on September 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

If Obama wins you can kiss all your guns good bye.

If Romnmey wins you can kiss your ‘assault’ weapons good bye.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Erika’s been reading my mind again. That little .38 Special is on my shopping list.

petefrt on September 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

ha,ha,ha,ha,choke,ha,ha…

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

When you recover, read again.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Load up and practice, either way.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:46 PM

FBI begins installation of $1 billion face recognition system across America
http://rt.com/usa/news/fbi-recognition-system-ngi-640/

Operation Blackjack
http://www.youtube.com/watc
h?v=NlLRx-uSXtA&feature=youtu.be

Also let’s not forget the recent articles on 2 alphabet agencies (DHS and ??? can’t remember) that put out buy requests for a lot of hollow-point bullets.

Can this also be a reason???

CoffeeLover on September 9, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I wouldn’t give the credit to an 0bama bounce this time.

People are preparing for an 0bama loss. I know I am. Lots of practice and stocking up on ammo.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Yes dear, of course you would think that that.

Here, have a cookie.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Sandee
You said it….hehe haha wahahaha, what a joke……..;-D

angrymike on September 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM

If Romnmey wins you can kiss your ‘assault’ weapons good bye.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Yes little one. You and pumice can share the cookie.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Yes dear, of course you would think that that.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Because it’s the truth. Romney has actually banned guns, Obama hasn’t.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM

same as 4 years ago, and nothing happened.

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

You have no idea what destruction follows if the biggest hoax on the land wins re-election, based on zero merits, and has no 3rd run to worry about.

Full destruction of liberties ahead.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM

When you recover, read again.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Just checked the NRA ratings:

Romney- B

Obama- F

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM

An “Obama bounce”… in gun sales?

…well this bounce should make gutmeandpokeme sh!thisshorts in glee!

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM

So we can thank Obama for saving America’s gun manufacturing industry?

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Because it’s the truth. Romney has actually banned guns, Obama hasn’t.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Guns have been getting banned since before the first real federal gun law in 1934.

And you can still buy guns, and parts, that those laws banned.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Well bho/holder/big sis/dear hill/etc. did help guns sales, F&F that is to drug gangs in mexico! Also seeing to it American’s and possibly thousands of mexicans were killed!
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letget on September 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM


How do you know it’s not a Romney bounce in gun sales? Romney is the first governor in the nation to ban so-called assault weapons. In reality Romney’s is one of the most notorious gun-grabbers in America, not Obama.

Yes, and the ‘severe conservative’ who saved the Olympics or something also gave us RomneyCare, a botch of policy functionally identical to ObamaCare. It strikes me as surpassing odd that so many so-called ‘conservatives’ can’t figure out why a North-Eastern establishment self-described “social progressive” like Romney can’t get traction among voters.

casuist on September 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Lets have a poll of ppl who have purchased one or more guns in the last year……
I bought two………;-)

angrymike on September 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

…got a shotgun!…(I don’t want to miss!)

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Buy lots of guns and practice on-going.

It makes the leftists mad, for starters.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Hubby bought a shotgun this year.
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letget on September 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM

like Romney can’t get traction among voters.

casuist on September 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM

You’re one of the very same fools who said the very same thing during the primaries that Mitt wrapped up 6 months ago. I take your pessimism as a great cause for optimism.

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM

…got a shotgun!…(I don’t want to miss!)

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 12:53 PM

+1

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Yes little one. You and pumice can share the cookie.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Do you really think you accomplish anything by being condescending and smarmy like that? Wouldn’t you rather convince someone of your position and have them agree with you, then just make them feel angry and insulted and possibly drive them away from “our side”?

Shump on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

People are readying for one or both of the following:

1. A mass gun-grab a la New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina.

2. The money running short to pay the welfare checks, inducing the destructive class to make up the difference by rioting and stealing anything not nailed down – as well as some things that are.

MelonCollie on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Indeed, you aim low.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Just checked the NRA ratings:

Romney- B

Obama- F

sandee on September 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM

The NRA has made themselves a threat to the 2nd amendment if they give one of the most notorious gun-grabbers in American history, who was the first to outlaw assault weapons, a B rating. If the NRA gives Romney a B then they probably give Rudy Giuliani an A; he’s the scumbag who tried to bankrupt the American gun industry with frivolous lawsuits.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Our house will be purchasing a gun for the first time this week. We have been discussing what kind would be best for self defense just in case we ever need it. I have always been wary of guns, and never thought I would want to buy one, but that time has come.

poli-nana on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

The daily carry:

Gen. 4 Glock 23 w/ Dawson Precision fiber optic sights front and rear, and a Crimson Trace laser riding the back strap.

And it’s just chock full of Winchester Bonded PDX1 165 grain goodness.

M240H on September 9, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Shump on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Comzo’s dismissive attitude is perfectly appropriate for the likes of those for whom no amount of rational thought would be sufficient. Doctrinaire lunatics are immune to logic so there is absolutely no point in wasting time in trying to convince them.

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 12:58 PM

MelonCollie on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

You might add,
3. When bho gets the boot in Nov. lots of people will be very very upset, his race, you know?
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letget on September 9, 2012 at 12:58 PM

I bought two………;-)

angrymike on September 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

…got a shotgun!…(I don’t want to miss!)

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Nope, not gonna’ play.

Do you really think you accomplish anything by being condescending and smarmy like that?

Shump on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Maybe they shouldn’t spout off such ignorance.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

poli-nana, seek advice and get a shotgun and a pistol. Remember they don’t kill anyone. They are inanimate objects.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Hey, dudes. Romney has already reversed himself on ObamaCare … again. He said just this morning on NBC’s Meet the Press that he’s going to keep the ‘good parts’ of ObamaCare.

casuist on September 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

And the fact that Democratic party governors, like Brown, are releasing violent criminals because their states are broke and can’t afford to lock up criminals in a humane manner.

Charm on September 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Guns have been getting banned since before the first real federal gun law in 1934.

And you can still buy guns, and parts, that those laws banned.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Oh, well no sweat then, I guess the 2nd amendment isn’t that important after all. Thanks for enlightening me, oh wise one.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Clear case in point. How insane are these gun nuts? So nucking futs that the NRA are a bunch of liberals in their eyes.

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Einstein just twitched in his grave.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Oh, well no sweat then, I guess the 2nd amendment isn’t that important after all. Thanks for enlightening me, oh wise one.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Ya’ know, just for skittles and giggles, what can’t you buy that you would want?

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Well you know, I’ve always wanted some Stinger missiles. For duck hunting.

/s

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

poli-nana on September 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

If the weapon is not going to leave the house, I strongly recommend a purpose-built tactical shotgun in either pump or auto-load action. It is an easier to aim weapon, has amazing.knock-down and incapacitating power, and the projectiles won’t travel through multiple walls to kill a neighbor, or worse, his child.

Mossberg makes several models of this type for reasonable prices.

M240H on September 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

same as 4 years ago, and nothing happened.

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

You have no idea what destruction follows if the biggest hoax on the land wins re-election, based on zero merits, and has no 3rd run to worry about.

Full destruction of liberties ahead.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM

go on with the obama reelection leads to apocalypse line, and you will see how many undecided you will convince. that is so 2008!

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

people recognize the breakdown in the rule of law inherent in an administration wherein the DOJ is actually the Department of Social Justice.

and the complete breakdown and dysfunction of our court system due to pro-criminal, anti-incarceration marxists.

people recognize that the executive officer entrusted with the execution and upholding of the laws of the land is himself lawless- meaning trickle down social justice ie wide scale unrestrained violent criminality against the law abiding who are prosecuted for defending themselves and their families against vicious predatory career criminals and out of control feral teens who all seem just like sons and brothers to barry.

mittens on September 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Buy ammo before it’s gone.

Texyank on September 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Obamas face should be the bullseye on practice targets.

Note to SS this is a joke.

Steveangell on September 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I would not recommend going to the Cabelas in East Hartford, CT on either a Saturday or Sunday to buy a gun. The wife waited almost 5 hours 3 weeks ago to get her new gun from them. they are doing a booming business there.

Johnnyreb on September 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Why buy a gun in case Obama wins. Do you really need it spelled out any clearer then this?

In Soviet America the Government owns YOU.

SWalker on September 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Clear case in point. How insane are these gun nuts? So nucking futs that the NRA are a bunch of liberals in their eyes.

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

I’m not surprised of your lack of concern about gun rights, you are one of the biggest police-staters I’ve debated here over the years.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Touche’, truth be told there are some things that cannot be bought. Just nothing practical that cannot be bought.

Current wet dream firearm

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

they are doing a booming business there.

Johnnyreb on September 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Pun intended?

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

If Obama wins you can kiss all your guns good bye.

If Romnmey wins you can kiss your ‘assault’ weapons good bye.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

And whoever comes to get mine will need to kiss their own ass goodbye.

Harbingeing on September 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Thank you for your recommendations. We’re looking into taking a gun safety course as well.

poli-nana on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I need help from th HA community.

I am not a gun guy, had a .22 as a kid, but nothing for many years.

I am planning to buy a shotgun, but have no idea about what makes a good shotgun good.

I’d be grateful for any guidance.

Bruno Strozek on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Oh yeah. Why, I have fantasies of personally leading the storm trooper assault, battering down your door and prying the rifle out of your cold, dead hands.

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

It’s not 2008. YOU have a 4 years record of Obama in front of your eyes and “Hope ‘n Change” is the biggest hoax ever. Only the truly mentally obtuse don’t realize this.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Well you know, I’ve always wanted some Stinger missiles. For duck hunting.

/s

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Damn it, you to? We should start a Stinger duck hunting Club.

SWalker on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I bought my first AR on 1/20/09. Bushmaster XM15/E2S.

I’ve been buying as fast as I can afford. Guns, ammo, canned goods, and survival gear.

wolly4321 on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Maybe they shouldn’t spout off such ignorance.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

….heh?

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 1:09 PM

And whoever comes to get mine will need to kiss their own ass goodbye.

Harbingeing on September 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Sure, same here. But you have to be willing to meet your maker.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Buy ammo before it’s gone.

Texyank on September 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM

I’d say reload, but powder is even getting harder to find.

This morning, Wal-Mart could not find the keys to the ammo locker and Sport City didn’t have any reasonable buckshot. Yesterday, I used all of my buckshot up.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 1:09 PM

same as 4 years ago, and nothing happened.

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

You know, aside from the Fast and Furious Reichstag Fire.

Dunedainn on September 9, 2012 at 1:10 PM

I’m getting a gun or two in the next month.

HawaiiLwyr on September 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Current wet dream firearm

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Yup… Definitely on my Zombie Apocalypse shopping list… ;)

SWalker on September 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM

wolly4321 on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Cool. So when Mad Max comes to town I’ll know just who to turn to for tips on welding armor to my car.

/s

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM

same as 4 years ago, and nothing happened.

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

You know, aside from the Fast and Furious Reichstag Fire.

Dunedainn on September 9, 2012 at 1:10 PM

nathor doesn’t know the concept of “nothing”.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Another factor in increased gun sales is the passage of concealed-carry laws across the nation.

novaculus on September 9, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Ya’ know, just for skittles and giggles, what can’t you buy that you would want?

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

A tank or a fighter jet? Those are the usual idiotic examples that get brought.

MelonCollie on September 9, 2012 at 1:12 PM

If you live near an urban center,, yea,, buy a welder too.

wolly4321 on September 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM

cozmo on September 9, 2012

…regarding…

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012

…Exodus 20:9…Six days thou shalt do they work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine Rock … the a$$ may rest!

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Clear case in point. How insane are these gun nuts? So nucking futs that the NRA are a bunch of liberals in their eyes.

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

If you took the time to study just how badly the NRA caved on the first Assault Weapon Ban, you’d feel that way too.

Dunedainn on September 9, 2012 at 1:17 PM

wolly4321 on September 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Thanks man. I don’t what I would do without you.

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Dunedainn on September 9, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Yeah. Stinking gun-grabbing, liberal NRA!

/s

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:18 PM

OMG just checked out the gun laws in Hawaii. It takes 14 days and I think a class to get a gun. I am a lawyer but I think I will have to hire someone to help me figure this out. Geeeeze.

HawaiiLwyr on September 9, 2012 at 1:18 PM

I need help from th HA community.

I am not a gun guy, had a .22 as a kid, but nothing for many years.

I am planning to buy a shotgun, but have no idea about what makes a good shotgun good.

I’d be grateful for any guidance.

Bruno Strozek on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

You might consider a Taurus Judge, just for the house. It will fire a .45 bullet or a .410 shot shell.

Special Forces Grunt on September 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

peterft – and others – is that photo an S&W Model 60, 3-inch barrel (which would make it a .357)? That’s my best guess.

Bruno Strozek, there obviously are some gun folks here who can advise as to a shotgun choice. However for a more focused forum I’d advise you to head over to The High Road (non-Google google it). A very very good gun site where your sort of question is common.

Register, then do a Search in the relevant sub-forums (General Discussions, Shotguns, Rifle Country) with terms like “first-time buyer” “noobie questions”, etc. I’m guessing if you spend some time there you’ll get much much smarter on shotguns very very quickly. And you won’t even have to pose your question yourself.

IceCold on September 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Yeah. Stinking gun-grabbing, liberal NRA!

/s

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:18 PM

I don’t know why you even bothered to comment on this thread since you obviously care nothing for our rights. If you don’t like us “gun nuts”, then stay away from threads that we frequent.

Unless, of course, you’re a troll. In that case, troll on, my friend.

Dunedainn on September 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

…“Hope ‘n Change” is the biggest hoax ever. Only the truly mentally obtuse don’t realize this.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

nathor is still scratching his crotch head over the Clint/chair skit!

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

I am planning to buy a shotgun, but have no idea about what makes a good shotgun good.

I’d be grateful for any guidance.

Bruno Strozek on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

What are you going to do with it?

Home defense?

Hunting?

BallisticBob on September 9, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Dunedainn on September 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Shut up, he explained.

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:21 PM

One really must question the IQ of some of the commenters on this thread. “What? Gun rights advocates? On a thread about gun rights? I am shocked, SHOCKED to find such scum and villainy here!”

Dunedainn on September 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

I am planning to buy a shotgun, but have no idea about what makes a good shotgun good.

I’d be grateful for any guidance.

Bruno Strozek on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

The KISS principle. Way to many variables to give you a good answer.

I was out with several yesterday:

SPAS-12
Stevens pump
Mossberg auto loading
MKA 1919 auto loader
Remington 870
A double barrel whose name I do not remember.

It all depends on what you will use it for and your confidence level. If for home defense, short barrel, forget the pistol grip and get one with a stock. Take an NRA shotgun course (that’s what I was doing yesterday). Use different loads and educate yourself on what they will do. It was my job to bring the simulated wall. I brought an interior and exterior wall section. Had to much fun to take pictures, but I sure got an education.

The Steven’s pump was the easiest to use for everybody (it is very simple, and being police surplus, very broke in). I did really well with the MKA 1919 because I am so familiar with the operating controls (M-16 style).

The SPAS-12 was overly complicated, stiff and heavy to make for a good shotgun unless you practice with it often. That is my gun, and I think it is to heavy, to complicated and too stiff to use for home defense.

cozmo on September 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Shut up, he explained.

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:21 PM

From the one who resorts to calling those who want their rights defended “crazies”, etc. Can you even hear yourself?

Dunedainn on September 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM

It’s not 2008. YOU have a 4 years record of Obama in front of your eyes and “Hope ‘n Change” is the biggest hoax ever. Only the truly mentally obtuse don’t realize this.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

look, I am just criticizing that an obama victory, or defeat, leads people to need guns! its insane! get a grip and stop giving gun manufacturers undeserved $.

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

look, I am just criticizing that an obama victory, or defeat, leads people to need guns! its insane! get a grip and stop giving gun manufacturers undeserved $.

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

That tells us all we need to know, I think.

Dunedainn on September 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Hubby & I are full-throttle 2nd amendment folks, lifetime NRA members, but have always felt skidgy about owning our own. No explanation … Guess the $$$ has always played a part, over the years. Food first, y’know ??
This year, we’ve picked up a small handgun just for home protection, not to carry. Baby steps. Definitely need to stock up on ammo, as our practice times @ a friend’s place has dwindled our supply.
Now we’re REALLY considering a good shotgun, too.
We could cover both the front & back doors at the same time, that way. ;-)

pambi on September 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM

get a grip and stop start giving gun manufacturers undeserved deserved $.

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Now we’re talking liberty.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM

…got a shotgun!…(I don’t want to miss!)

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Me too. For home defense, I’d use a shotgun if there’s time and space enough. If not, then a revolver.

petefrt on September 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM

look, I am just criticizing that an obama victory, or defeat, leads people to need guns! its insane! get a grip and stop giving gun manufacturers undeserved $.

nathor on September 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Sanity has no place in this thread. Didn’t you hear?

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM

reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole

The continuing BS mantra of the left. Repeated endlessly as an invocation.

In all the gunshows I’ve been to, I’ve yet to have anyone say “Pssst! Hey! Ya wanta buy a full auto weapon? Off the record?”

GarandFan on September 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Einstein twitched again. Logic is not what he thought it is.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Sanity has no place in this thread. Didn’t you hear?

MJBrutus on September 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Mirrors just shattered.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

…Exodus 20:9…Six days thou shalt do they work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine Rock … the a$$ may rest!

KOOLAID2 on September 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM

So I’m an a$$ for pointing out the fact that Romney has banned guns, and Obama has not? Stating the simple truth in defense of the 2nd amendment deserves ad hominems?

Regarding Romney; a wolf in sheep’s clothing is far more cunning and dangerous than a regular wolf.

FloatingRock on September 9, 2012 at 1:28 PM

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