Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on September 8, 2012 by Allahpundit

The Obama era in American politics began almost exactly eight years ago in Boston, when a youthful Senate candidate’s soaring speech to the Democratic National Convention stole the show from the actual Democratic nominee.

It ended, to all intents and purposes, last Thursday night in Charlotte, when a weary-seeming incumbent delivered perhaps the fourth-best major address at his own convention — a plodding, hectoring speech that tacitly acknowledged that this White House is out of ideas, out of options and no longer the master of its fate…

[W]e are not in the late 1990s anymore. There is nothing remotely “normal” about the unemployment rate we’re enduring, or the long-term deficits we face, or the fact that the American birthrate has dropped below replacement level over the last five years. Or alternatively, if this is the new normal, then it’s a normalcy that both citizens and politicians should aspire to swiftly leave behind…

But whatever happens in November, the president’s own words have given us fair warning: We face a continuing crisis, and the liberalism of Barack Obama is no longer equal to the task.

***

Four years later the shooting liberal star, as we called him then, has come down to earth. What should have been a buoyant recovery coming out of a deep recession was lackluster to start and has grown weaker. The partisanship he claimed to want to dampen has become more fierce. The middle-class incomes he sought to lift have fallen. These results aren’t bad luck or the lingering effects of a crash four years ago. They flow directly from his “transforming” purposes.

To our mind, two events amid hundreds stand out as defining President Obama’s first term. The first is his go-for-broke pursuit of progressive social legislation instead of focusing on economic recovery. The second is his refusal to strike a budget deal with Speaker John Boehner in 2011. Both reveal a President more bent on transforming America than addressing the needs of our time…

So now Mr. Obama is seeking a second term by asking the voters to give him more time to finish the job he started. But what job is that?

***

[I]f there is a unifying idea behind this basket of aspirations, I missed it. I hear all the time, but don’t really know for sure, that the mythical undecided voters that both campaigns chase are not particularly ideological — if they were, they would have already decided between the candidates — and that they clamor for these sorts of statements that include specific and quantifiable goals.

But the list leaves a lot to wonder about. Does Obama have a new plan for addressing climate change? Beats me. (He did say, “And yes, my plan will continue to reduce the carbon pollution that is heating our planet because climate change is not a hoax.” But he didn’t actually offer a real proposal to do anything to stop climate change—nothing like a carbon tax or cap and trade. In fact, he talked about increasing oil production and other sources of carbon pollution.) Will he pursue comprehensive immigration reform in the next session of Congress? He didn’t say. When he faces the fiscal cliff, which would be the first and possibly the most consequential issue of his potential second term, how will he reform Medicare and restructure the tax code? Again, the details were absent last night.

***

The situation facing Romney is hard for some Republicans to comprehend. They didn’t buy Obama’s bill of goods in the first place and find it hard to sympathize with anyone who did. But there are millions of people who voted for Obama who are not only disappointed in him but have come to the conclusion that he does not deserve to be re-elected. The problem for Romney is they might still be persuaded to vote for the president. Making them comfortable with the idea of leaving Obama is Romney’s job.

Romney campaign advisers are very familiar with the type. They do polling, they do focus groups and they see the phenomenon everywhere. Says campaign pollster Neil Newhouse: “These voters are my mother-in-law. She’s a soft Republican and voted with pride for Barack Obama in terms of what it meant for the country. And now, every time she talks to me, she’s more than disappointed. She’s frustrated. She’s upset. She thought she was voting for a transformational leader and feels like we got just another politician.” You can bet Newhouse and the Romney campaign are not basing their strategy on one mother-in-law. They’re undoubtedly seeing the same thing all the time in their research.

The important thing for Romney, aides believe, is not to rub the voters’ noses in their decision from four years ago. Don’t bash Obama, don’t even harp on how he’s not up to the job — that carries the implication that they should have known that when they voted for him. Just focus on the point that his policies have not made things better. “You’ve got to be careful in terms of how you talk about the president,” says a top Romney campaign aide. “It’s his policies and performance voters are concerned about — that’s the focus.”

***

“So you see, the election four years ago wasn’t about me,” President Obama explained. “It was about you. My fellow citizens, you were the change.”

We were the change!

We were the change? Us?…

It’s depressing to look back and remember what soaring hopes we had for ourselves only four years ago. Did we overdo it with the Greek columns? Sheesh, a million people showed up for our inauguration. Now we brag when we break 10,000.

What a drag to realize that Hillary was right: big rallies and pretty words don’t always get you where you want to go. Who knew that Eric Cantor wouldn’t instantly swoon at the sound of our voice or the sight of our smile?…

He gave it to us straight: It’s not me, it’s you.

***

Last night the president used rhetorical flourishes to say that his election was never about him, but “you.” As in, EVERYONE. So when Obama said that “you” are the reason people have a better future ahead of them, Stewart suspected that the president was trying to push all the responsibility on the people so then he could blame them for “the shitty stuff that hasn’t been done.”

Stewart concluded by remarking that the American people need to be grounded, and “maybe the only person who could have done it was the one who put all that air under our feet in the first place.”


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Lied in ‘his’ books, lied in 2004, lied in 2008, lies now.

BHO Jonestown on September 8, 2012 at 8:03 PM

When is the first debate?

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:03 PM

“You’ll love me even more” — Impertinent Degenerate Obama

Schadenfreude on September 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Doesn’t matter. They’ll still vote for him.

mrscullen on September 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM

“So you see, the election four years ago wasn’t about me,” President Obama explained. “It was about you. My fellow citizens, you were the change.”
We were the change!
We were the change? Us?…
It’s depressing to look back and remember what soaring hopes we had for ourselves only four years ago. Did we overdo it with the Greek columns? Sheesh, a million people showed up for our inauguration. Now we brag when we break 10,000.
What a drag to realize that Hillary was right: big rallies and pretty words don’t always get you where you want to go. Who knew that Eric Cantor wouldn’t instantly swoon at the sound of our voice or the sight of our smile?…
He gave it to us straight: It’s not me, it’s you.

Credit where it’s due: MoDo hit King Barry with both barrels.

Kataklysmic on September 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Pantload…

Seven Percent Solution on September 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM

evenin’.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 8, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Barak Obama isn’t a shooting star. He’s the Death Star.

njcommuter on September 8, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Stewart concluded by remarking that the American people need to be grounded, and “maybe the only person who could have done it was the one who put all that air under our feet in the first place.”

Funny how a guy who was going to heal the planet and all now has to tell everyone he’s not the Messiah he sold himself as. He fooled you once, America…shame on you if he does it again.

changer1701 on September 8, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Of O’s support of leftist legislation that will hurt the economy, don’t forget what takes the cake: the cap % trade bill which would have mandated huge CO2 cuts, culminating in 83% cuts by 2050. Go to skeptic blogs and get back in touch with the reasons why this cap & trade bill was the stupidest thing ever. As a daily skeptical starting point that covers multiple blogs, I highly recommend: http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/

anotherJoe on September 8, 2012 at 8:12 PM

See Obama’s star fall down from the sky
Every tale he has spun is a lie
Here’s the one bitter lesson of Obama’s history
His soul should no longer remain a mystery
His many faces change
What you thought you knew grows ever more strange
And he has so many faces
His real self erases
With all those lies
Dancing in his empty eyes!

PercyB on September 8, 2012 at 8:12 PM

When is the first debate?

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:03 PM

I wanna say October 3. 25 days from now. Those will pretty much decide the election. People want to vote Obama out. Romney just needs to close the deal.

Doughboy on September 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Oh man do I have a quote of the day for Eeyorepundit…

Mortimer Zuckerman: Those Jobless Numbers Are Even Worse Than They Look
Still above 8%—and closer to 19% in a truer accounting. Here’s a plan for improvement.

Don’t be fooled by the headline unemployment number of 8.1% announced on Friday. The reason the number dropped to 8.1% from 8.3% in July was not because more jobs were created, but because more people quit looking for work.

The number for August reflects only people who have actively applied for a job in the past four weeks, either by interview or by filling an application form. But when the average period of unemployment is nearly 40 weeks, it is unrealistic to expect everyone who needs a job to keep seeking work consistently for months on end. You don’t have to be lazy to recoil from the heartbreaking futility of knocking, week after week, on closed doors.

How many people are out of work but not counted as unemployed because they hadn’t sought work in the past four weeks? Eight million. This is the sort of distressing number that turns up when you look beyond the headline number.

Here’s another one: 96,000—that’s how many new jobs were added last month, well short of the anemic 125,000 predicted by analysts, and dramatically less than the (still paltry) 139,000 the economy had been averaging in 2012.

The alarming numbers proliferate the deeper you look: 40.7% of the people counted as unemployed have been out of work for 27 weeks or more—that’s 5.2 million “long-term” unemployed. Fewer Americans are at work today than in April 2000, even though the population since then has grown by 31 million.

We are still almost five million payrolls shy of where we were at the end of 2007, when the recession began. Think about that when you hear the Obama administration’s talk of an economic recovery.

The key indicator of our employment health, in all the statistics, is what the government calls U-6. This is the number who have applied for work in the past six months and includes people who are involuntary part-time workers—government-speak for those individuals whose jobs have been cut back to two or three days a week.

They are working part-time only because they’ve been unable to find full-time work. This involuntary army of what’s called “underutilized labor” has been hovering for months at about 15% of the workforce. Include the eight million who have simply given up looking, and the real unemployment rate is closer to 19%.

In short, the president’s ill-designed stimulus program was a failure. For all our other national concerns, and the red herrings that typically swim in electoral waters, American voters refuse to be distracted from the No. 1 issue: the economy. And even many of those who have jobs are hurting, because annual wage increases have dropped to an average of 1.6%, the lowest in the past 30 years. Adjusting for inflation, wages are contracting.

The best single indicator of how confident workers are about their jobs is reflected in how they cling to them. The so-called quit rate has sagged to the lowest in years.

Older Americans can’t afford to quit. Ironically, since the recession began, employment in the age group of 55 and older is up 3.9 million, even as total employment is down by five million. These citizens hope to retire with dignity, but they feel the need to bolster savings as a salve for the stomach-churning decline in their net worth, 75% of which has come from the fall in the value of their home equity.

The baby-boomer population postponing its exit from the workforce in a recession creates a huge bottleneck that blocks youth employment. Displaced young workers now face double-digit unemployment and more life at home with their parents.

Many young couples decide that they can’t afford to start a family, and as a consequence the birthrate has just hit a 25-year low of 1.87%. Nor are young workers’ prospects very good. Layoff announcements have risen from year-ago levels and hiring plans have dropped sharply. People are not going to swallow talk of recovery until hiring is occurring at a pace to bring at least 300,000 more hires per month than the economy has been averaging for the past two years.

Furthermore, the jobs that are available are mostly not good ones. More than 40% of the new private-sector jobs are in low-paying categories such as health care, leisure activities, bars and restaurants.

We are experiencing, in effect, a modern-day depression. Consider two indicators: First, food stamps: More than 45 million Americans are in the program! An almost incredible record. It’s 15% of the population compared with the 7.9% participation from 1970-2000. Food-stamp enrollment has been rising at a rate of 400,000 per month over the past four years.

Second, Social Security disability—another record. More than 11 million Americans are collecting federal disability checks. Half of these beneficiaries have signed on since President Obama took office more than three years ago.

These dependent millions are the invisible counterparts of the soup kitchens and bread lines of the 1930s, invisible because they get their checks in the mail. But it doesn’t take away from the fact that millions of people who had good private-sector jobs now have to rely on welfare for life support.

This shameful situation, intolerable for a nation as wealthy as the United States, is not going to go away on Nov. 7. No matter who wins, the next president will betray the country if he doesn’t swiftly fashion policies to address the specific needs of the unemployed, especially the long-term unemployed.

Five actions are critical:

1. Find the money to spur an expansion of public and private training programs with proven track records.

2. Increase access to financing for small businesses and thus expand entrepreneurial opportunities.

3. Lower government hurdles to the formation of new businesses.

4. Explore special subsidies for private employers who hire the long-term unemployed.

5. Get serious about the long decay in public works and infrastructure, which poses a dramatic national threat. Infrastructure projects should be tolled so that the users ultimately pay for them.

It’s zero hour. Policy makers need to understand that the most important family program, the most important social program and the most important economic program in America all go by the same name: jobs.

Mr. Zuckerman is chairman and editor in chief of U.S. News & World Report.

SWalker on September 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM

I wanna say October 3. 25 days from now. Those will pretty much decide the election. People want to vote Obama out. Romney just needs to close the deal.

Doughboy on September 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Thanks and I agree. I think the first debate is very very important.

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Doesn’t matter. They’ll still vote for him.

mrscullen on September 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Many will but many who voted for him last time will vote for Romney or many will simply stay home and play PS3 or XBox.

CW on September 8, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Doesn’t matter. They’ll still vote for him.

mrscullen on September 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Seeing some of these polls today, they may well have dumbed down the electorate enough so that results don’t matter. I’d bet 80% of the black voters who will near universally voting for Obama couldn’t tell you what are the 3 branch’s of govt, but they know Obama will get them free stuff. The fact that it’s unsustainable and hurts them is irrelevant.

We may win the election, but the fact that we have to sweat it out with a president this terrible and reckless tells you the experiment is over. I’d say it’s just a matter of time before some states are going to start bowing out.

The Count on September 8, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Says campaign pollster Neil Newhouse: “These voters are my mother-in-law. She’s a soft Republican and voted with pride for Barack Obama in terms of what it meant for the country. And now, every time she talks to me, she’s more than disappointed. She’s frustrated. She’s upset. She thought she was voting for a transformational leader and feels like we got just another politician.” You can bet Newhouse and the Romney campaign are not basing their strategy on one mother-in-law. They’re undoubtedly seeing the same thing all the time in their research.

Good. Secure their vote and on November 7 we get to clip them upside the head for putting us in this position in the first place.

Glad they felt good about themselves since that’s more important than ensuring that competent people are elected.

kim roy on September 8, 2012 at 8:21 PM

HI ALT …..

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:17 PM

and we can count on lehrer to keep things equal/s

renalin on September 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM

there is a choice …
freedom
or
free stuff …
that is this election ….
GOD help us …

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM

and we can count on lehrer to keep things equal/s

renalin on September 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM

What’s this “we” crap? You don’t want Romney to succeed based on your past posts. You should be jumping for joy that the debate moderators are liberal.

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM

John Sununu On Romney’s Fall Campaign Strategy: ‘They’re Going To Carpet Bomb ‘Em’ http://mediaite.com/a/yosov

Seven Percent Solution on September 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM

GOD help us …

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM

AMEN

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Many will but many who voted for him last time will vote for Romney or many will simply stay home and play PS3 or XBox.

CW on September 8, 2012 at 8:18 PM

alot of those college kids and now out looking for work …
good chance they are going to Romney or will stay home

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:24 PM

HI ALT …..

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Mostly lurking tonight. Lots to get done and running on fumes.
At least tomorrow is my Friday.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 8, 2012 at 8:25 PM

When is the first debate?

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Whenever Obama closes his eyes…

Electrongod on September 8, 2012 at 8:26 PM

evenin’.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 8, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Evenin’, had a hard day, can I get a hug.

MKA1919 bit me, twice.

cozmo on September 8, 2012 at 8:27 PM

and we can count on lehrer to keep things equal/s

renalin on September 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Lehrer will probably be the best of the moderators. I just hope he keeps the focus on domestic policy for most of that debate.

Doughboy on September 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM

its not that i don’t want him to succeed, i just know he won’t.

believe me, if obama wins i pay more taxes. i already work till july for uncle sam, don’t want to work till october.

renalin on September 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

SWalker on September 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM

I think Mr. Zuckerman is one of those who voted for Obama in 2008.

esr1951 on September 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

be back in a few .. a bowl of watermelon is calling my name ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

“You’ve got to be careful in terms of how you talk about the president,” says a top Romney campaign aide. “It’s his policies and performance voters are concerned about — that’s the focus.”

This is where I disagree with the strategy. I fully understand why the Romney campaign would not want to go thermonuclear “told you so” on the idiots who were chanting yes-we-can and O-bam-a just four years ago.

BUT, individuals are not out there disappointed with Obama’s policies. They are upset at what those policies have meant to their everyday life. They are experiencing long-term joblessness or know friends and family that are. Their home is underwater or know others in that situation. There are foreclosed homes in their neighborhood that they see everyday when they take their dog for a walk. They may even have a twenty-something living at home for lack of employment after graduating from college. They can do the math about the liquidity of Medicare and Social Security. The understand the massive debt that is to be passed on to their children and grandchildren.

In short, I think those swing voters would respond far better to a strong message of real leadership. This idea that we shouldn’t ruffle their feathers is offensive in the way it assumes that swing voters are dishrags who can’t form an opinion on their own.

Happy Nomad on September 8, 2012 at 8:29 PM

be back in a few .. a bowl of watermelon is calling my name ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Sure…

Make that two…

Electrongod on September 8, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Many will but many who voted for him last time will vote for Romney or many will simply stay home and play PS3 or XBox.
CW on September 8, 2012 at 8:18 PM
alot of those college kids and now out looking for work …
good chance they are going to Romney or will stay home
conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:24 PM

I’m afraid you’re wrong. For all it’s worth, my generation has to be the most selfish generation yet, and the more “free” stuff we can get the better!

Also, the debates are all going to be won by Obama. He won’t get any follow-up questions about his lies and they won’t ask for facts so it’ll be up to Mitt to question Obama which will make him out to be “rude” and “angry.”

mrscullen on September 8, 2012 at 8:30 PM

SWalker on September 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM
I think Mr. Zuckerman is one of those who voted for Obama in 2008.
esr1951 on September 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

And probably again in 2012.

mrscullen on September 8, 2012 at 8:32 PM

“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for me.”

davidk on September 8, 2012 at 8:32 PM

“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for me.”

davidk on September 8, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Wedding gifts…
Keep them coming…

Electrongod on September 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM

I blame the Choom. He deserves another chance, because, um, Choom.
And if he get’s re-elected, that’ll be why.

Kenosha Kid on September 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Sure…

Make that two…

Electrongod on September 8, 2012 at 8:30 PM

ok … nice big bowl of icy cold red melon … seedless …
come and get it ….:D

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM

be back in a few .. a bowl of watermelon is calling my name ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Racist!

SouthernGent on September 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Don’t forget … If Obama loses …. it is the American peoples fault ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM

mrscullen on September 8, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I think CW is right, because turnout will be key. Every American with a clue will be voting.

The others, well, some will show up, and some won’t bother. The momentum of 2008 was one of euphoria. That thrill is gone now.

I think that will be enough to lose the edge.

I’m also not at all convinced Obama will win the debates no matter how much help he gets from the media. He’s not that smart, and he has a very thin skin.

INC on September 8, 2012 at 8:37 PM

MKA1919 bit me, twice.

cozmo on September 8, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Need to watch where you have your fingers.

/not that I’ve ever done anything like that. Nosiree, happened to the guy in the lane next to me. Uh-huh, that’s where I heard about it.

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 8:38 PM

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM

The American people can have a clear conscience.

I will step up to the plate and accept all blame for 0bama losing.

cozmo on September 8, 2012 at 8:39 PM

The Obama era in American politics began almost exactly eight years ago in Boston, when a youthful Senate candidate’s soaring speech to the Democratic National Convention stole the show from the actual Democratic nominee.

It ended, to all intents and purposes, last Thursday night in Charlotte…

Whoaaa… Douthat say dat?

Actually, not a bad article. Second look at Douthat.

petefrt on September 8, 2012 at 8:39 PM

I will step up to the plate and accept all blame for 0bama losing.

cozmo on September 8, 2012 at 8:39 PM

my friend I will share that honor with you ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:40 PM

…Quotes of the day

…cripes!…already?
I was still on the other thread where HotLips was blowing (*gas*) everybody!

KOOLAID2 on September 8, 2012 at 8:40 PM

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Those gal-darned box magazines is what did it. They slice fingers very well.

Other than that, I love the thing.

cozmo on September 8, 2012 at 8:41 PM

come and get it ….:D

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM

:)

Electrongod on September 8, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Every American with a clue will be voting.
INC on September 8, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Don’t forget how many clueless O-bots there are. Our best hope is their disappointment with the Stool.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 8, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Lehrer will probably be the best of the moderators. I just hope he keeps the focus on domestic policy for most of that debate.

Doughboy on September 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

There’s been a lot of talk about changing the format of political conventions. It is not like times past where a political party actually figured out who they would nominate at the convention. Where the leading figures studiously stayed away from the fray so that when asked to lead the party they could respond with a “who me” bit and take the next plane/train to the convention site to arrive in time to accept the nomination. I think this is valid talk since political conventions are nothing more than multi-day infomercials packaging the candidates.

In the same vein, I think the debate format needs to change. No matter the question or rules a candidate is going to say “I’m glad you asked that question” and then go on to deliver a pre-formatted “message” that doesn’t even address the question. Most of the time it is nothing more than snippets of the stump speech. I think that seeing the candidates responding to the same questions at the same time is critical but we’ve got to figure out a format where they are not talking across each other instead of actually engaging their opponent.

Happy Nomad on September 8, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Actually, not a bad article. Second look at Douthat.

petefrt on September 8, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Blind. Squirrel. Nut.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM

. it is the American peoples fault ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Yep and proud of it..

I have fireworks saved up..

Have you witnessed Independence Day in November?

Electrongod on September 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM

I’m also not at all convinced Obama will win the debates no matter how much help he gets from the media. He’s not that smart, and he has a very thin skin.

INC on September 8, 2012 at 8:37 PM

This. We’ve got to stop the defeatist attitude. Being aggressive and not taking anything for granted is one thing, but accepting defeat is another.

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Don’t forget how many clueless O-bots there are. Our best hope is their disappointment with the Stool.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 8, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I think there will be enough stay at homes to make that difference.

INC on September 8, 2012 at 8:44 PM

time for the communists to go

MrMoe on September 8, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Happy Nomad on September 8, 2012 at 8:42 PM

if they don’t answer the question asked … 5 lashes with a cat of 9 tails …
for each question …..

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:46 PM

This. We’ve got to stop the defeatist attitude. Being aggressive and not taking anything for granted is one thing, but accepting defeat is another.

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM

I think many of us are still reeling from McCain, literally, quitting the race in 2008. When the GOP treats the base like a battered wife, and we’re used to getting hit over and over, it sort of becomes scary to thing good things.

/maybe it’s just me

SouthernGent on September 8, 2012 at 8:46 PM

He gave it to us straight: It’s not me, it’s you.

Don’t forget … If Obama loses …. it is the American peoples fault ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Since blaming Bush is wearing thin, Obama has decided that it’s time to blame America….He’s so unoriginal.

So on the matter of blame, cue Jeane Kirkpatrick at the 1984 Republican National Convention:

‘The Blame America First Crowd’

…Jimmy Carter looked for an explanation for all these problems and thought he found it in the American people.

But the people knew better.

It wasn’t malaise we suffered from; it was Jimmy Carter — and Walter Mondale….

The Dems held their convention in San Francisco that year, so quite appropriately, she was able to label the Blame American First mentality that of the San Francisco Democrats.

While Jeane Kirkpatrick did focus on the San Fran Dems blaming America for the problems of the world, it’s no surprise that a generation later, the heir of the San Francisco Dems would attempt to shift his culpability on to the nation.

But then, somehow, they always blame America first.

INC on September 8, 2012 at 8:47 PM

MSNBC’s New Slogan

Resist We Much on September 8, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Well I got dressed in my workout stuff, got on my treadmill – went a 1/4 of a mile and went screw it.

Oh well.

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:48 PM

“Team Romney to the white courtesy phone…

… Team Romney, white courtesy phone, please.”


Beneath the surface of Friday’s jobs report lies the reality of just how disastrous the Obama economy truly is…

Seven Percent Solution on September 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM

I will step up to the plate and accept all blame for 0bama losing.

cozmo on September 8, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Me too!

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Well I got dressed in my workout stuff, got on my treadmill – went a 1/4 of a mile and went screw it.

Oh well.

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:48 PM

You are a 1/4 of a mile ahead of me…:)

Electrongod on September 8, 2012 at 8:51 PM

INC on September 8, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Gosh I wish Jeane Kirkpatrick had been RR VP instead of Bush the elder …
would have been soooo awesome ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:51 PM

You are a 1/4 of a mile ahead of me…:)

Electrongod on September 8, 2012 at 8:51 PM

LOL!

I had too much fun on vacation so I really shouldn’t be skipping but big yummy soft sweatshirt is on now so the night is lost.

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Despite all the BS about Obama chances of winning the elections the actual math says it is over for him. This incompetent fool is losing 15% to 18% of the “White Voters” who voted for him in 2008, right there he would lose this election… Another factor is that our side (the producers) is vastly more energized than their side (the parasites) so this will make it even much harder for him to win the elections… Based on my elections predictions model if 10% of Obama “White Voters” from 2008 switch and vote for Romney in 2012 combined with 3% of Obama voters from 2008 stay home in 2012 then Obama is going to lose the elections for certain…

Anyone who wants this elections predictions model can e-mail me at mnjg123@yahoo.mail and I will e-mail it to you…

mnjg on September 8, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Electrongod – she is 1/4 in front of both of us … but we have watermelon ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:56 PM

I’m also not at all convinced Obama will win the debates no matter how much help he gets from the media. He’s not that smart, and he has a very thin skin.

INC on September 8, 2012 at 8:37 PM

A lot of that depends on Romney’s strategy.

Stuff like Fast and Furious, Solyndra, or the fact that the only winner out of creating Govt. Motors was the UAW is hard to parlay into campaign themes. But that is not to say that Romney cannot use these issues to slam the rat-eared bastard in debate. He needs merely to mention them to get national scrutiny.

And you are right. Obama is not good when it comes to speaking outside the script. When he was in front of friendly audience in Roanoke, he was comfortable enough he made the “you didn’t build that” gaffe. It drew applause then and has been a problem for his campaign ever since.

Happy Nomad on September 8, 2012 at 8:56 PM

sorry it is mnjg123@yahoo.com

mnjg on September 8, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Did we overdo it with the Greek columns?

Gee, ya think?

….

Have you made sure to skip a meal and send the money to Michelle recently?

Hawkins1701 on September 8, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Yeap…

“Four more years…!”
“Four more years…!”


On Monday, yet another Department of Energy funded solar energy company –the world’s largest solar power plant—filed for bankruptcy.

Seven Percent Solution on September 8, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Gosh I wish Jeane Kirkpatrick had been RR VP instead of Bush the elder …
would have been soooo awesome ….

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Wow…I hadn’t thought of that. You’re right. She would have had to become a Republican, but she was the ultimate Reagan Democrat.

INC on September 8, 2012 at 8:59 PM

This is how I feel about Romney’s chances this November. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpugp6DIb3I

libfreeordie on September 8, 2012 at 8:59 PM

is not that i don’t want him to succeed, i just know he won’t.

believe me, if obama wins i pay more taxes. i already work till july for uncle sam, don’t want to work till october.

renalin on September 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Your one hell of a pu$$y-glad you never played on my team.
A fighter your not.

bazil9 on September 8, 2012 at 9:00 PM

I’m also not at all convinced Obama will win the debates no matter how much help he gets from the media. He’s not that smart, and he has a very thin skin.

INC on September 8, 2012 at 8:37 PM

It’s going to be a mind game. Øbama will be out to rattle Romney by any means necessary. I’m optimistic that Romney is equipped to stave it off and turn it back against Øbama. After all, Romney didn’t achieve the repeated successes in his life by being a wuss. But remember too, Øbama is a skilled Alinskyite. He fights dirty. It’s how he got where he is. It’s all he knows.

Their debate of the issues, for Øbama, is little more than a pretext to rattle Romney’s cage and put him on defense. For Øbama, it’s mainly a mind game.

petefrt on September 8, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Happy Nomad on September 8, 2012 at 8:56 PM

When he gets cocky, he thinks he can say anything. It would be fitting if his hubris became his nemesis.

INC on September 8, 2012 at 9:01 PM

INC – she turned from Dems to GOP …

Jeane Duane Jordan Kirkpatrick (November 19, 1926 – December 7, 2006) was an American ambassador and an ardent anticommunist. After serving as Ronald Reagan’s foreign policy adviser in his 1980 campaign and later in his Cabinet, the longtime Democrat-turned-Republican was nominated as the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and became the first woman to hold this position.[1]

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 9:02 PM

This is how I feel about Romney’s chances this November. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpugp6DIb3I

libfreeordie on September 8, 2012 at 8:59 PM

You are never gonna get it…
We can’t afford your FORWARDness..

Electrongod on September 8, 2012 at 9:02 PM

You know, Goldwater had Reagan do a warm up speech for him.

I really would prefer that Barry had won.

Putting someone in to warm up the crowd that ends up making you look like a putz, isn’t bright.

Speakup on September 8, 2012 at 9:02 PM

People who are anxiously waiting for the debates. You do realize the debates have been rigged to go terribly for Romney no matter what, don’t you? Obama will get zero hard questions. Romney will get all gotcha questions. Romney will never have time to respond to Obama. Obama will get to talk most of the time. Moderators will gush about Obama’s answers at the end.

andy85719 on September 8, 2012 at 9:03 PM

“So you see, the election four years ago wasn’t about me,” President Obama explained. “It was about you. My fellow citizens, you were the change.”

/My presentduncy is your fault, suckahs

Key West Reader on September 8, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Hmmmmm…looks like Hot Gas doesn’t like CNBC links either. Story about gun sales on the rise after 0bama bounce.

Dangit! there are some things that I want!

I knew this would happen when I got back into it. This is all 0bama’s fault.

cozmo on September 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM

So many of the Obama supporters I know are just worried about losing something.

They are uninformed and gullible and the thing that really annoys me is that they are not stupid..they can work, balance their checkbooks, but they believe stuff like the rich do not pay taxes and once Obama makes them pay taxes we won’t have a deficit..

I do not even know how to respond to people like this anymore. It just floors me.

But at least I live in a conservative rural community and there are not that many Obama supporters…the only people around here who support Obama are life long Democrats and I am not sure all of them are going to vote.

Terrye on September 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM

SWalker on September 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Gets the diagnosis right (depressingly)….gets the prescription wrong.

More government intervention.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Hawkins1701 on September 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM

petefrt on September 8, 2012 at 9:01 PM

I agree that Romney’s debate prep needs to include that kind of mental readiness. He’ll be able to command the facts, he just needs to be ready to deflect Obama’s style.

INC on September 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM

petefrt on September 8, 2012 at 9:01 PM

They say that Romney’s rehearsal for the debates is heavy on foreign policy. It should be equally heavy on Alinsky. I worry he may be naive about that.

petefrt on September 8, 2012 at 9:06 PM

bazil9 on September 8, 2012 at 9:00 PM

when my mom took me to first grade, i didn’t know one word of english.
from cleaning toilets and people’s butts to where i am today.

how about you?

renalin on September 8, 2012 at 9:06 PM

When is the first debate?

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 8:03 PM

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canopfor on September 8, 2012 at 9:06 PM

libfreeordie on September 8, 2012 at 8:59 PM

I hope you like Obama you moron,because if he wins a second term you are going to spend the rest of your life paying for it…and him.

On the bright side, it might just be the end of the Democratic party.

Terrye on September 8, 2012 at 9:07 PM

I agree that Romney’s debate prep needs to include that kind of mental readiness. He’ll be able to command the facts, he just needs to be ready to deflect Obama’s style.“style”

INC on September 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM

FIFY

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 9:08 PM

I hope you like Obama you moron,because if he wins a second term you are going to spend the rest of your life paying for it…and him.

On the bright side, it might just be the end of the Democratic party.

Terrye on September 8, 2012 at 9:07 PM

on the down side it could just mean the end of America as we know and love.

conservative tarheel on September 8, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Also, the debates are all going to be won by Obama. He won’t get any follow-up questions about his lies and they won’t ask for facts so it’ll be up to Mitt to question Obama which will make him out to be “rude” and “angry.”

mrscullen on September 8, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Of course, you’re right.

Plus, the military/humanitarian rescue in Syria.

And the anonymously sourced GOP scandals.

Add in a few alleged ‘death threats’ and racist graffitti.

Presto!

faraway on September 8, 2012 at 9:09 PM

2012: The takers v. the makers

Key West Reader on September 8, 2012 at 9:09 PM

They say that Romney’s rehearsal for the debates is heavy on foreign policy. It should be equally heavy on Alinsky. I worry he may be naive about that.

petefrt on September 8, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I don’t think he is naive..It is the American people who are naive about Alinsky..they never know when they are being played.

Terrye on September 8, 2012 at 9:09 PM

For all it’s worth, my generation has to be the most selfish generation yet, and the more “free” stuff we can get the better!

mrscullen on September 8, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Maybe I just am too dim here to understand your post but what exactly is your generation?

BTW, I laugh at such generalizations. I was born six weeks before the official end of the boomer generation. But interestingly enough when it comes to certain studies, I get thrown into an entirely different catagory than is the reality.

Happy Nomad on September 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM

I love that NASCAR has a prayer before every race. May that never change.

gophergirl on September 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM

renalin on September 8, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Brushed your teeth and washed your face,huh? Did you ever bother to file for legal status? How about mom?

thatsafactjack on September 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM

You do realize the debates have been rigged to go terribly for Romney no matter what, don’t you?

andy85719 on September 8, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Of course. Some foreign policy Q’s. Nothing about the economy. Probably nothing about Øbamacare. Some Q’s about abortion, contraception, blah blah blah. After all, it is MSM, isn’t it.

petefrt on September 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM

bazil9 on September 8, 2012 at 9:00 PM

when my mom took me to first grade, i didn’t know one word of english.
from cleaning toilets and people’s butts to where i am today.

how about you?

renalin on September 8, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Well, I could tell ya..but I won’t. Good story actually- Thx for your little story,I feel enriched. I have my story to-but i don’t cry like a bi$ch. How you doing past the 1st grade?
You should learn how to capitalize.

bazil9 on September 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM

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