eBay opens the door to online taxes

posted at 5:01 pm on September 8, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

Free market capitalism makes for a rough battlefield at times, and in the area of online sales the competition can be intense. Now it looks like one of the top sellers, eBay, will seek to go head to head with Amazon in terms of fast delivery for late shoppers as the holidays approach.

eBay has started experimenting with same day delivery following the lead of Amazon and other online retailers. The new service called “eBay Now” had a limited release in San Francisco last week and is currently being rolled out to existing consumers in the local area and is also available through iOS app.

The service will allow customers to sign up for same-day shipping from local merchants in San Francisco for only $5. If this move toward instant fulfillment is successful, it could have implications for other online companies including Wal-Mart, Target, Amazon and other retailers.

On the one hand, this could be a smart move for eBay. Last minute shoppers not only need the products they want – particularly for gifts – but they need them to be on the way to the recipient now. Same day delivery could be a big plus. But it could also require them to set up regional warehousing for products, and that gives them a “physical nexus” in the states where they choose to offer the service.

This could force them to get in line with Amazon in terms of their willingness to pay state sales tax, along the lines of the currently pending Marketplace Fairness Act. Some retailers like Amazon are already subject to state sales tax under existing law for just that reason, and if eBay suddenly has to start paying, it’s doubtful that they’ll want other retailers getting away without doing so, which could find them having a change of heart on the MFA.

Of course, that’s been the position of Amazon since at least 2009.

“We’ve have said all along that we support the streamlined sales tax project which would apply the same standards in all 50 states even-handedly across all retailers,” Smith explained. “We’ve been in support of this as opposed to the state-by-state approach which results sometimes in unconstitutional legislation being enacted.”

The day may be coming. And small businesses have been preparing for it all this year.


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I shop online because it is cheaper. Not having to pay sales tax makes things cheaper. Take more money out of my pockets, this lessens my buying power and then I dont buy as much because that money is now going to politicans that cant spend money worth a S(*#.

watertown on September 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Multi-state sales taxes are more complex than Federal income taxes

faraway on September 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM

eBay loves the idea of a mandatory nationwide Internet sales tax. It’s the same reason why the medical insurance companies loved ObamaCare. Small mom-and-pop Internet retailers like me will be forced to sign up with eBay or Amazon, which will then get a big cut of my sales.

I don’t want to sign up with eBay. But I can’t afford to hire a full time accountant to to fill out all the paperwork for 45 state tax agencies and track the sales rates in 9,300 different tax juristictions. Even if it is electronic you still have to spend hours to sign up with 45 states and make filings and track their law changes.

The proposed minimum sales amount of $500,000 is waaay too low. The average retailer makes a 10% profit, or about $50,000. That is just about enough for me and my wife to live on. If I had to hire a full time accountant it will put us out of business.

Amazon and eBay want the threshhold to be $500,000 (and not the more reasonable $2 million) because it would force mom and pop retailers like us to sign up with them for payment services. They are salivating at the idea of grabbing all those new retailers to put under their umbrella.

Gideon7 on September 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM

ebay? Does anybody care? I quit doing business there almost 5 years ago.

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM

I got hit with a 1099 last year thanks to ebay and paypal. I had to pay taxes on the money that was sent to my paypal account. If they want your money they will find a way to get it.

LeftCoastRight on September 8, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Since I total up all my online shopping receipts and pay State use tax before each year-end, doesn’t matter to me if Amazon, eBay or any other company starts charging sales taxes.

Actually, companies charging sales taxes for online orders to my State make my life much easier.

GrannyDee on September 8, 2012 at 5:20 PM

currently pending Marketplace Fairness Act.

…as if there is a chance that THAT won’t pass?

KOOLAID2 on September 8, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Meh. Trying to get away from taxes is like trying to get away from air.

Business has picked up the fee/private tax willingly. Ever notice that $1.00 fee to swipe your card at a 7-11 gas pump?

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Nothing good will come of this. Government just strains so much to take every penny they can from you in any way possible. God forbid you should enjoy some little advantage through online sales.

JellyToast on September 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Just more examples of crony capitalism. eBay and Amazon got theirs, by doing this, making online transactions subject to state sales taxes, they make the entry bar for other new on-line marketers much higher and more difficult. It’s not just 50 states’ worth of taxes, it is thousands upon thousands of local taxing entities and knowing where the boundaries of those entities begins and ends. For example, my address is Tucson, but I don’t live in an incorporated area, so if they were to correctly tax me, it would require that they know I only pay state and county taxes. Somebody 3 miles from me would pay state plus county plus city taxes, and the direction would have to determine which city tax.

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Business has picked up the fee/private tax willingly. Ever notice that $1.00 fee to swipe your card at a 7-11 gas pump?

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Umm, no. What are you talking about?

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 5:27 PM

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Try it. 7-11, QT, Racetrak.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Ebay is an auction.

Who would stock a warehouse for an auction, and with what, for “same day shipped sales”?

Ebay would have to become a seller itself, not a service for other sellers, to achieve this odd goal.

profitsbeard on September 8, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Trust your Government, they know what to do best with your ( tax) money. /

FlaMurph on September 8, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Okay, I know nothing about this.
So, basically there are some companies you can order from and no tax is applied?
I do a lot of online shopping (hate the mall) and they apply my county tax here in Fl-applied to my purchase order…no biggie. We have no state tax.
Guess I am confused..
Can someone break this down for me?

bazil9 on September 8, 2012 at 5:34 PM

profitsbeard on September 8, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Think like franchise. As a retailer you have to buy into the ‘system’ for the franchise service. It is the way of the world.
7-11 doesn’t franchise 8 out of 9 of their locations because it makes things cheaper for you.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Try it. 7-11, QT, Racetrak.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:32 PM

We buy gasoline at the pump with Discover from Shell, Valero, and Circle K. The price charged to our card is the price at the pump (number of gallons * Obama-induced $3+ price), no additional fee is added for a transaction.

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM

I like the “next day” service from E-Bay…nothing says “I want it now” like waiting a week for an auction to end.

John Kettlewell on September 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM

or same-day service, whatever

John Kettlewell on September 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Then they have a retail agreement with Discover. But I mentioned none of those retailers.

The peeps get ticked at the ‘hold’ on cards (usually $125 for 24 hours) and blame the retailer. Not so. It is the debit card agreement in place between the bank and the retailer that does that. Don’t bitch at the store manager or CSR, bitch at the bank.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Okay, I know nothing about this.
So, basically there are some companies you can order from and no tax is applied?
I do a lot of online shopping (hate the mall) and they apply my county tax here in Fl-applied to my purchase order…no biggie. We have no state tax.
Guess I am confused..
Can someone break this down for me?

bazil9 on September 8, 2012 at 5:34 PM

You must be ordering from in-state businesses. If you order from an out-of-state business with no physical presence in FL, you should not be charged sales taxes. This is due to the Constitutional restriction that only the federal government can tax interstate or foreign commerce. Would be interesting to determine whether it’s even constitutional for the federal government to allow states to charge sales tax on interstate commerce; seems like that would be violating the constitutional limitation, even if congress passed it as a law. I’m sure that Benedict Roberts would certainly find that it is just peachy-keen, but I mean whether somebody who really understands the Constitution and its intent would find that Constitutional.

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Ebay is an auction.

Who would stock a warehouse for an auction, and with what, for “same day shipped sales”?

Ebay would have to become a seller itself, not a service for other sellers, to achieve this odd goal.

profitsbeard on September 8, 2012 at 5:33 PM

They’ve been moving away from the online auction format with small independent sellers for a long time now.

Basically, their model is to have a number of very large sellers (Lots of Chinese) with pre-positioned merchandise for immediate delivery. This is Amazon’s model, too, less the Chinese (pretty much).

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Yes. Sellers must supply a tax-id or no sell to want-a-have-its.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Thank you for taking the time AZ.

bazil9 on September 8, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Nothing good will come of this. Government just strains so much to take every penny they can from you in any way possible. God forbid you should enjoy some little advantage through online sales.

JellyToast on September 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

They have to. Even Republicans have gotten onto the welfare state bandwagon. Welfare states are not cheap, not cheap at all. You take people off the working rolls and move them onto the mooching rolls. Fewer income taxes, less business tax (also levied on the buy of their products) and more money going out to the moochers. The moocher class grows bigger, and has more political power due to votes, they vote for more money, other people get sick of supporting moochers and move to the moocher rolls, less income taxes, more moochers to feed…

astonerii on September 8, 2012 at 5:48 PM

So forget digging ‘Rubber Soul’, first pressing, out of your U-haul locker and making a smooth $200. Uncle Sugar owns it.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Hubby obtains alot of (sometimes rather obscure) tools for his customers, via Amazon Prime (free shg), and taxes are applied in every instance. Rate depends on the location of the resale warehouse. (we have one locally, DFW, so we know it’s our local tax)
Customers DO appreciate NOT being charged freight, I must say.
Taxes charged via Amazon won’t really affect us, in that case.

Personally, we don’t mind paying some taxes, as far as the total balance on personal shopping goes, since free shg helps absorb, somewhat.

pambi on September 8, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Yes. Sellers must supply a tax-id or no sell to want-a-have-its.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Actually, it’s more like there is no room in the brave new world for small independent people to do business at all. Unless you are a buyer.

Amazon may or may not make this work. Ebay will fail. They’ve been failing for years, now.

The real losers are just average, everyday people who sell stuff online to make a few bucks or run a small business.

If Amazon succeeds, all B&M merchants will suffer. Even ones like Walmart.

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Even ones like Walmart.

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Suffer, some, but like all proper free enterprise that expense of Government red-tape will be directly passed on to the bargain hunter.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Two lemonades, mister? That’ll be eighty cents plus permit fees, health inspection fees, collection fees, and state sales tax. Let’s call it a even ten greenbacks.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Truly free enterprise shouldn’t suffer at the hands of government.

More importantly, this has nothing to do with ‘free’ enterprise. This is about removing as many people from any kind of enterprise as possible.

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Notice how taxes are always cloaked in nice sounding terms like “fairness”?

Decoski on September 8, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Decoski on September 8, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Yes. Take a 1909S-VDB cent in my safe deposit box. The feds will give it market value. It doesn’t matter a hoot that that market value is 40% higher than I could off it for to a wholesaler. My son gets to see it go away to pay it’s own Uncle Sugar value. Never mind that I was smart enough to buy it in 1962, for $82.50. Uncle Sugar will peg it at $1800 and want his tax.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Yeah. Right.

How is eBay — an online auction website — going to guarantee same day shipping on anything other than their ‘eBay Store’ sellers? What would be their penalty for failing to ship same day? Bannination and ruination? Ha.

If eBay sellers sign up for ‘eBay Now’ which they will definitely be incentivized to do — how are they going to somehow force Joe Shmoe in Cutoff, Louisiana who’s auctioning hubcaps found on the side of the road to ship same day? How about Shelly Shlub in Nome, Alaska and her eBay ‘garage sale’ items? How would they do that? If they fail to ship a hubcap or a pair of old snow shoes the same day — is eBay going to close their accounts and ban them off of eBay? There’s millions of Joe Shmoe’s and Shelly Shlub’s selling and auctioning everything practically imaginable on eBay. They’re literally eBay’s bread & butter. They’ll never be able to make it work without the deeply greedy bastards of eBay penalizing themselves — and that’s definitely not going to happen.

FlatFoot on September 8, 2012 at 6:05 PM

FlatFoot on September 8, 2012 at 6:05 PM

How? Form 1099. It has powers far beyond those of mortal men.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 6:05 PM

You’d tell Uncle Sam about that?

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 6:13 PM

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 6:13 PM

No but probate will, when they take possession of my assets, including my safe deposit box, upon my going to see the Big Bang.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Slip it to your kid before you go.

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 6:19 PM

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Shhhhhh….but you never know when you might get impaled by a 2000mph diving dove.

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 6:20 PM

ebay used to be a great place to find deals in the 2000′s but ever since they got big and arrogant and added the buy.com crap, I rarely shop there, it is hard to find a real deal anymore, more trouble than it is worth. Taxation will make it worse. Slippery slope. I find myself using craigslist more and more, no middle man.

All those in congress that support and vote for the marketplace fairness act need to be tarred and feathered….and voted out, one thing a bunch old, rich, lawers at the lever of power do not understand at all whatsoever is technology and they should not try to regulate it. But they will, they cannot help themselves, even though most people don’t want or need this.

maineconservative on September 8, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Yeah. This would be an interesting discussion if it weren’t on an open board.

trigon on September 8, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Screw sales taxes. If eBay starts charging tax I stop shopping there. Simple.

MTF on September 8, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Well this is great because the government knows so much better how to spend all that money than we do. Look at how well they run their fiscal houses now.

Oh and I just could not have any spending cuts to government at all. Everything is necessary. Nothing can be cut.

jukin3 on September 8, 2012 at 6:45 PM

1. These governments don’t need any more/new taxes…not until we Americans start making more money…even then…

2. This will work fine (same day delivery) obviously if fuel prices don’t skyrocket way above what they are right now.

3. I wonder how long it will be until several millions more of us cannot afford to buy stuff from Amazon or E-Bay much less the extra 5 bucks?

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 8, 2012 at 6:47 PM

I just ordered something from Amazon that I couldn’t get at the local Home Depot or Lowes, it was a great price, free shipping, and no tax. No brainer.

Paul-Cincy on September 8, 2012 at 6:49 PM

if eBay suddenly has to start paying, it’s doubtful that they’ll want other retailers getting away without doing so

“Walk a mile in my moccasins” comes to mind.

timberline on September 8, 2012 at 7:14 PM

I just ordered something from Amazon that I couldn’t get at the local Home Depot or Lowes, it was a great price, free shipping, and no tax. No brainer.

Paul-Cincy on September 8, 2012 at 6:49 PM

I just bought a Netgear 3800 router from Amazon for $114 and they offered $50 off if I used my Amazon Visa card. Needless to say I did and the router now costs $64 and free shipping to boot. What’s there not to like about Amazon?

timberline on September 8, 2012 at 7:18 PM

From how I understand it eBay makes it’s money on a commission or a flat fee percent to host the sale. eBay is just the host and no money goes from the buyer to them and then to the seller for them to take any taxes to send anywhere. Unless they are the seller like Amazon was/is for the most part.

Having only bought one thing from eBay 4 years ago and never sell anything, do fees go to the seller not buyer unless it states it. If someone buys a widget for a dollar, eBay will gets a dime from the seller not from the buyer. So the seller get a dollar in PayPal, but then a bill from eBay for a dime. Now they will get a bill for .15 from eBay and the buyer still only pays a dollar. Delivery costs go to the buyer but what about eBay hosting fees. This tax could be seen as just be a new eBay hosting fee.

Is it really any different if a new “fee” goes to eBay or a new “tax” goes to Washington or state capital.

The whole idea that eBay is an online auction goes out the window if eBay is just on-line version of a local business. As if the store had a website of their own and had same day delivery, it would be hard for them to not to charge a sales tax. eBay is ending up being the on-line version of a brick and mortar store and then tax just like normal.

tjexcite on September 8, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Personally, we don’t mind paying some taxes, as far as the total balance on personal shopping goes, since free shg helps absorb, somewhat.

pambi on September 8, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Thing is, that works for Amazon because they build the price of the shipping into the merchandise. Smaller vendors can’t do that and forcing them to have to have the complex software to calculate the sales tax for each of the thousands of taxing regions across the US puts them in an uncompetitive position against Amazon and eBay; so of course Amazon and eBay now like the idea of sales tax on internet transactions. It helps reduce competition.

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Nothing good will come of this. Government just strains so much to take every penny they can from you in any way possible. God forbid you should enjoy some little advantage through online sales.

JellyToast on September 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

The end result will be a barter economy, where no cash is present. Try paying taxes with a sack of flour and 9 yards of cloth. Better yet, how would a sales tax be computed on a sack of flour and 9 yards of cloth?

Imagine this: Form 1040, Adjusted Gross Income _________$7.18, 22 sides of beef, 86 lbs flour, 4 lbs salt, 10 lbs bacon, etc…..

Total tax due_________$0.00.

BobMbx on September 8, 2012 at 7:45 PM

I just bought a Netgear 3800 router from Amazon for $114 and they offered $50 off if I used my Amazon Visa card. Needless to say I did and the router now costs $64 and free shipping to boot. What’s there not to like about Amazon?

timberline on September 8, 2012 at 7:18 PM

You still owe the $50, plus whatever interest accrues to it on your card. You didn’t get $50 dollars off. You paid $64, and financed $50.

If you get charged $1.00 in interest, the $114 router now cost you $115.

BobMbx on September 8, 2012 at 7:49 PM

The end result will be a barter economy, where no cash is present. Try paying taxes with a sack of flour and 9 yards of cloth. Better yet, how would a sales tax be computed on a sack of flour and 9 yards of cloth?

You fill out IRS Form 1099-B (Income from Brokers and Barter). See IRS Tax Topic 420, Bartering Income.

“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidise it.” — Ronald Reagan

Gideon7 on September 8, 2012 at 8:02 PM

You still owe the $50, plus whatever interest accrues to it on your card. You didn’t get $50 dollars off. You paid $64, and financed $50.

If you get charged $1.00 in interest, the $114 router now cost you $115.

BobMbx on September 8, 2012 at 7:49 PM

That is very unlikely unless things have changed recently. The $50 comes out of Amazon.com profits, which they expect to recoup during your usage over the lifetime of the card.

pedestrian on September 8, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Thing is, that works for Amazon because they build the price of the shipping into the merchandise. Smaller vendors can’t do that and forcing them to have to have the complex software to calculate the sales tax for each of the thousands of taxing regions across the US puts them in an uncompetitive position against Amazon and eBay; so of course Amazon and eBay now like the idea of sales tax on internet transactions. It helps reduce competition.

AZfederalist on September 8, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Thanks to the magic of the free market, there are a variety of vendors that provide that information at low cost because of competition.

pedestrian on September 8, 2012 at 8:14 PM

The lefty wet dream is a VAT that can be adjusted upwards at the whim of a VAT Czar.

Everything else is a stop-gap temporary measure.

This time around when the socialists got the WH, 60 in the Senate, and a solid majority in the House they rammed through a socialized health care bill.

The next time, if the country as we knew it survives that long, it will be a VAT.

farsighted on September 8, 2012 at 8:29 PM

I like the idea of taxing online sales at the point of purchase, meaning you pay whatever the rate is in the state you live when you buy something online. The reason i like it is because i want to get rid of the income tax and the only way that will ever happen is if we have logical consumption taxes. If you travel to a different state, you’re not exempted from the sales tax of the state you’ve visited so it makes sense and is much easier to manage to have point of purchase tax for online sales.

clearbluesky on September 8, 2012 at 11:55 PM

‘physical nexus’ of suck. Just more war on capitalism, like a VAT. Government inserting itself as middleman in every transaction between cash holder and goods purveyor. eBay already shot themselves in the foot by buying up and perpetuating PayPal’s anti-gun policies (thanks Meg, you f’n double loser), and in recent years driving off many of their smaller uses with their fee structure changes. And once they impacted and raised fees, people began altering their behaviour to avoid those ‘added costs’. So much so that eBay again changed their rules and now assesses their ‘fee’ on the entire cost of the transaction, including shipping charges. Thereby eliminating much of the incentive to use their service. So they are already ‘big brother’ in that regard. So why not become an agent of the state and stick us for sales tax too. /bitter sarcasm

oh and clearbluesky, it’s a damned fantasy to approve ANY increase / alternate taxation with the hope of fair offsets in the existing forms. The powers that be will NEVER willingly surrender their access to our pocketbooks. Name any taxes that have been rescinded since the Progressives first foisted the personal income tax on us a century ago under Teddy Roosevelt? It’ll take a revolution to fundamentally alter our tax code situation. Congress sure as hell won’t do it willingly, and everyone involved in the IRS is looking for ways to do our taxes for us and just send us the bill / tap our bank accounts directly. They even snuck that crud in the Obamacare legislation. So imagining a ‘consumption tax’ will REPLACE anything is a fool’s dream. It will be put in like a VAT. And ADDITIONAL tax.

Spoken as a Californian who just got his surprise $150 ‘Fire Prevention FEE’ bill in the mail.

rayra on September 9, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Limerick on September 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM

That $1.00 fee is not charged to you. When you swipe your card they auto charge a $1.00 “see if this account actually has money” fee, its a hold on your account . After the charge clears, the $1.00 is freed , so you will never see the $1.00 removed from your account, because it just goes into the “pending” While using debit cards, sometimes you will be double charged – such as, pump $50 in gas , the $50 comes out and another $50 is “held” but will become unfrozen after a business day. This can lead to over draft charges which they are not responsible for.

Donut on September 9, 2012 at 12:46 AM

eBay opens the door to online taxes

Reminds me of AARP supporting Øbamacare.

Bastards.

petefrt on September 9, 2012 at 7:55 AM

There are many reasons not to buy online:

1. You can’t look at or hold the product before you purchase.
2. You have to pay shipping and handling.
3. If you have to return the product you have to pay the freight.
4. Some companies that operate online are very difficult to contact.

Sales tax is frequently a wash with shipping charges.

Why do people shop on line?

1. The retailers frequently are willing to sell for less.
2. You pay more in gas and time driving to a “local” business than you would spend buying online.

I sell on ebay. (www.panelsawsrus.com ) and if I have to start charging sales taxes on interstate sales I am done with eBay.

The Rock on September 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Open the floodgates to government greed, the only kind of greed allowed.

It used to be that even taxes were a reasonably equitable economic exchange and the jurisdictionsns were proscribed. For Federal income taxes you got your armed forces and your interstate highway systems; states got sales taxes because they generally oversaw their regional business environment; locals got property and school taxes, well, because they paid the cops whose presence directly protected your house and the teachers who were right around the corner. That was when good faith and fair play were honored by all sides. (Could the decline of those coincide with the ascent of public sector unions?) Commuter taxes and state income taxes set us on the road to this Government by Greed. And now online taxes? Where a government doesn’t have to do anything to claim them? They collect them because the can? Just watch the greed pour through the floodgates.

And it will have an effect. Market forces, and manipulation thereof, work online no different than off. The big players will weather the coming of online taxation (and the VAT!) Ebay and Amazon don’t care a whit about smaller players. But who will report on all the “mom and pop” e-merchants this will drive out of business and who will never get into the business in the first place?

curved space on September 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM

The Rock on September 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM

You forgot:

#3 People want to buy stuff that LOCAL RETAIL doesn’t ever STOCK.

Goto seeedstudio and tell me you can find anything like this at RadioShack? http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/

Theres a whole world of products out there that NEVER make it to Wally World. And are available on the internet only.

orbitalair on September 9, 2012 at 6:53 PM