Matthews: If Obama beats the right-wing, they’re finished

posted at 3:21 pm on September 7, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

I know the oh-look-more-Chris-Matthews-ridiculousness posts can be tiresome, but the fact that this person has a nationally televised platform from which to spew this type of absolute nonsense never ceases to amaze me (and I have something of a difficult time allowing even the most trifling bits of populist lunacy pass me by without comment, blergh). You’d think my incredulity would eventually subside, but alas — his ability to beclown himself seems to know no bounds. This was prior to President Obama’s speech last night; click the image to watch, via RCP:

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Look, the only people who haven’t had it tough in the last four years are the rich. They’ve had it easy, and I think that’s obvious. And now they’re afraid they might somebody in the next four years who might start winning battles. By the way, the best way to beat the right-wing is to beat them. If he beats them in this election, they’re finished. And I think that’s the point. And the moderates will come back. And Jeb Bush will come back. And the people like Chris Christie will come back. The moderates will retake the party if you smash the right. I am talking what the President believes because he’s told people that, that he thinks he can win this election and break these people on the right, the moderates will come back and they’ll be able to negotiate and the Mitch McConnells will be shut up for a while.

Firstly: “The only people who haven’t had it tough in the last four years are the rich. They’ve had it easy…” Yeah, those stupid, greedy rich people, living the high life in their castles made of clouds clouds with their dirty, ill-begotten wealth and not providing anything of value to anyone. Who needs ‘em, anyways? Let’s just soak the hell out of ‘em and call it a day, amiright?

Secondly: “The best way to beat the right-wing is to beat them.” Don’t let the redundancy confuse you — it’s just Matthews’ opener for getting in another shot at those oh-so-radical Republicans. Yes, this party’s really gotten just too darn extreme for everybody — forget the fact that a few months ago, the party had major trepidation with choosing Mitt Romney because he’s too moderate. A Republican governor from Massachusetts, extreme? Really? No matter what we do, the Left will always find excuses to brand conservatives as “radicals,” and please don’t act like a second term for your hero is going to change that.


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did you notice how he always looks like a squeezed orange

tarpon on September 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Believe it or not, Chris Mathews used to have a very good and fair political show. I watched his show almost every day for 10 years between 1995 and 2005. His show was balanced. For example, he had Mark Levin as a regular guest. Think about that. Mathews kind of acted like he was fine that Clinton was being impeached. And he definately insinuated atleast twice that he had voted for George W. Bush. Almost always had an equal amount of conservatives to democrats ratio. All true. It was a better talk show then O’reilly or Hannity and Colmes.

Now we all want a duel with Tingles. Its amazing how openly liberal and crazy some TV people are now today. Things have definately changed.

As for his theory, first Romney was the second most liberal Republican running, the Tea Party wasn’t mentioned at the convention, nor was Palin there. The idea that it will be the “conservatives” fault if Romney loses and the “moderates” will take over is hillarious.

Second, I could make an excellent case that the best thing that could happen for conservatism is for Romney to lose. I think Republicans would clean up in 2014 and 2016. And a CONSERVATIVE WILL BE THE NOMINEE in 2016.

The only question if Obama wins is will the country still be here in 2016.

KMav on September 7, 2012 at 4:10 PM

The reality is the networks did pretty bad last night for Obama. There are increasing stories that the news divisions are losing money and may be cut back so that we can see even more re-runs, game shows and reality garbage. I like having 600 channels with nothing to watch. Sports and old movies that glorify values you don’t have to be ashamed of are all that are left to watch.

The left is losing the war – we need to advance in the schools – get involved in your local school, especially the curriculum committees. Work to eliminate garbage history and english books in particular. WOrk to save the next generation and eliminate the youth as a lib voter.

Zomcon JEM on September 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM

He’s right but for the wrong reasons.
 

We live in interesting times.
 
If Obama wins, it will prove to the powers that be that Romney wasn’t liberal enough to win and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.
 
If Romney wins, it will reinforce the idea that (R) candidates should be more liberal to win, and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.
 
They’ve got us. Vote your conscience, but those are the results. Take your pick.
 
rogerb on July 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM

rogerb on September 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Actually as bad as I hate to admit it, Chrissy is right on this one. If we can’t beat Obama this time around then we in fact cannot beat anyone.

Axion on September 7, 2012 at 3:26 PM

An Obama victory would be a disaster for the country but a boon to the conservative movement. Contrary to people like Chris Matthews, Mitt Romney is hardly a “right winger.” If Romney cannot win, we might as well run a fire-breathing conservative in 2016 rather than a Christie or Jeb.

bw222 on September 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Look, the only people who haven’t had it tough in the last four years are the rich.

And people with solar energy companies with connections to the 0bama White House. And auto workers unions.

But aside from all of them, yeah, things have been tough.

UltimateBob on September 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM

rogerb on September 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM

The biggest problem we have in the primaries is that we have too many conservative candidates and a McCain or Romney ends up winning. It 2008 Romney was pretending to be a conservative.

bw222 on September 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM

I think this guy is really unbalanced, I think Homeland Security better start looking into his remarks! “The best way to beat the right-wing is to beat them.” I mean, that right there is hardball? Seems more like a few fries short of a happy meal.

kirkill on September 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Is it true that Chris leaves a puddle beneath any chair he is sitting in when speaking of Obama?

right2bright on September 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM

This been nowhere, done nothing liberal is nothing but a slobbering vile mouth. With a little salt he would melt like a slug.

rplat on September 7, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Repubs:
Media is not your friend.

antisocial on September 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Andrew Breitbart said the media – not the Democrats – is conservatives’ greatest enemy.

bw222 on September 7, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Senator and Mrs. Joe Blutarsky (D) DE.

Akzed on September 7, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Had forgotten that. HA! Thanks.

paragon27x on September 7, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Chrissie,
Wouldn’t it be nice if the Republican party could be gone forever… and then you could have a ONE PARTY RULE government?

FlaMurph on September 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Then…..if we beat the Commies their finished.

lilium479 on September 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM

KMav on September 7, 2012 at 4:10 PM

What brand do you smoke?

With…oh, 20 million illegals and add some more by then, the only thing 2016 or 2020 will bring is a large number of wise Latino candidates. And judging by today’s information, they will be firmly on the left.

As for conservatives, the revolutionaries in Cuba, used to say:

“To the wall!”

IlikedAUH2O on September 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Romney already beat the conservatives which means conservatives are done in the GOP.

Valiant on September 7, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Romney already beat the conservatives which means conservatives are done in the GOP.

Valiant on September 7, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Nothing is over until we decide it is!

- John “Bluto” Blutarsky

How I wish it was true.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 7, 2012 at 4:38 PM

I completely agree with Christ Matthews.……except it’s the republican party and capitalism that’s finished. There may eventually form a Conservative party form but the GOP may never win a national contest.

Look at the electoral map Hot Airians……….it’s not 1984 anymore.

The open borders/entitlement culture has turned the nation into Teater Capitalism. Everyone gets one on the Federal sow.

California gone forever. Pennsylvania gone for good. Florida about to flip, Ohio also. Virginia too. Texas is next.

This is it folks.

PappyD61 on September 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM

They’ve got us. Vote your conscience, but those are the results. Take your pick.

rogerb on July 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM

rogerb on September 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Dammit man, it’s Friday! And, it’s 5 O’Clock somewhere.

*clink*

Fallon on September 7, 2012 at 4:46 PM

If Obama is reelected, the 2014 election will make the 2010 election look like a tie.

Matthews is perfectly, precisely wrong. If Obama wins, the country MAY be in big trouble but the Democrats will DEFINITELY be in big trouble. You think people hate Obamacare now, just wait ’til they have to live with it. Combine that with California and Illinois going bankrupt (while Wisconsin stays healthy) and you’ll see a rejection of a party and a philosophy that will rival the French Revolution.

Pythagoras on September 7, 2012 at 4:47 PM

This is it folks.

PappyD61 on September 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Yup. If The Commie wins, I don’t think that America will ever recover.

The tit-suckers will have won – and America will have become one, huge tit.

Alas, and what the sucklings don’t understand is – that tit will go dry.

Suckers!

OhEssYouCowboys on September 7, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I can see this happening in November to Chrissy.

RDH on September 7, 2012 at 4:50 PM

did you notice how he always looks like a squeezed orange

tarpon on September 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM

oh! he always looks like something is being squeezed…but I don’t think it is oranges!

KOOLAID2 on September 7, 2012 at 4:52 PM

If Butch and Sundance can make it to Australia, the Bolivian army is f***ed!!!

Rixon on September 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Mitch McConnell is too extreme for Tingles?

Wow, am I ever out of touch with the thinking among the rich media types of Potomac, Maryland these days.

MTF on September 7, 2012 at 4:58 PM

“Look, the only people who haven’t had it tough in the last four years are the rich. ”

Rich is a relative term. I wouldn’t mind swapping take home pay with Mr. Matthews.

Rethuglican on September 7, 2012 at 5:02 PM

So I’m talking to a client this morning and we get into politics. He says his ultra lib wife is beginning to see the impacts of the city regulations that are tearing into their bottom line and is losing her happy about it.

Then he goes into the both parties are the same with wild eyed libs spending on the extreme of the left and tea partiers on the extreme of the right. He acknowledges the constant drift to the left as proof they are all the same though.

When I unloaded on him about painting people who want to tame the budget as extremists he laughed and caught himself. When I mentioned the old traditional 18% of GDP spending is moving upwards of 30% he began to understand a little more. I asked him if he recalled ever getting to vote on the massive increase in spending and who he thought was driving it.

His wife had been telling him he better not vote repub and now even she is beginning to get it. These folks are in their 50s. Keep pounding away people.

DanMan on September 7, 2012 at 5:03 PM

We live in interesting times.

If Obama wins, it will prove to the powers that be that Romney wasn’t liberal enough to win and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.

If Romney wins, it will reinforce the idea that (R) candidates should be more liberal to win, and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.

They’ve got us. Vote your conscience, but those are the results. Take your pick.

rogerb on July 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Alternate reality or did you just flunk history?

Five moderate Republicans have run for President since Nixon was forced to resign as President or be Impeached.

All five lost.

Five Conservative Republicans managed to beat the Moderate wing of the party and get the Nomination. All five won two twice Regan and GW Bush (though he became moderate day afer he won as a Conservative). GHW Bush ran Conservative the first time and won changed to a Moderate in the second election and gave us Clinton.

I guess in your alternate reality this never happened.

Mitt lost the day he won the nomination.

Only a Conservative Republican has any chance. 2010 spoke very clearly that Conservative Republicans can still win. Unfortunately we forgot that in 2012. One huge mistake.

Steveangell on September 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Matthews has NOT considered the alternative.

Schadenfreude on September 7, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Matthews: If Obama beats the right-wing, they’re AMERICA’S finished

Chuck Norris agrees… and has something to say about it.

So much for the ‘smart guys’ that poo-poo the Socons…

CPT. Charles on September 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM

…the fact that this person has a nationally televised platform from which to spew this type of absolute nonsense never ceases to amaze me
POSTED AT 3:21 PM ON SEPTEMBER 7, 2012 BY ERIKA JOHNSEN

Maybe some day you’ll have a nationally televised platform from which to spew your type of absolute nonsense.
Maybe you can be one of Bill O’Reilly’s ‘new analysts’.

But…
Matthews’ point isn’t ‘nonsense’ – perhaps a bit overblown.
Just as the social cons got marginalized following a spell of Repubs feeling they had to cave to their every whim, this election could result in the same for Norquist/Rand worship set.

verbaluce on September 7, 2012 at 5:13 PM

This may be slightly off topic, but If I hear “rich = BAD” one more time from Chrissy or anyone else I’m going to hurl. And that’s coming from someone who never has been, nor never will be “rich.”

Am I incorrect in my figues–don’t the top 1% (those pesky, evil, rich people) provide most of the tax income for the country, while a good 50% pay NOTHING?

pianomomma on September 7, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Is it safe to assume that the journalist Matthews noted the same about the kook-left-fringe which runs and controls the Democrat party? Just curious.

Jaibones on September 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Posted before but the real truth is that the democrat party since 2002 became the communist party of 1932.

Proof: The Communist Takeover Of America – 45 Declared Goals
http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

The republican party since 1992 became the democrat party of 1960.

Proof: H.W. Bush, Dole, G.W. Bush, McCain, Romney.

jukin3 on September 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM

This may be slightly off topic, but If I hear “rich = BAD” one more time from Chrissy or anyone else I’m going to hurl. And that’s coming from someone who never has been, nor never will be “rich.”

Am I incorrect in my figues–don’t the top 1% (those pesky, evil, rich people) provide most of the tax income for the country, while a good 50% pay NOTHING?

pianomomma on September 7, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Especially when it’s coming out of the most vile, oxymoronic and hypocritical thing, walking the planet:

A rich Commie.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM

The republican party since 1992 became the democrat party of 1960.

Proof: H.W. Bush, Dole, G.W. Bush, McCain, Romney.

jukin3 on September 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Yes at least those were but they all lost or ran as a conservative to win.

The GOP fully became the new Democratic Party at the convention when the leaders refused to let the Conservatives vote and stole their votes from them from now on.

Steveangell on September 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

He’s correct but a little late. The MSM has convinced the GOP to nominate a RINO two elections in a row now. The right-wing stopped appearing on the ballot eight years ago.

CrustyB on September 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Let’s face it – Half of America wants to sit on their ass eating potato chips while collecting
checks from you and me.

What are people like this going to do when the checks stop?

ala – Greece and soon to be Spain and then the rest of Europe.

redguy on September 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Hard to believe how dumb (yes, dumb….I know how progressively insensitive this is and don’t care)this guy is.

nikophil on September 7, 2012 at 5:44 PM

rogerb on September 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM

; )

Bmore on September 7, 2012 at 5:44 PM

He’s correct but a little late. The MSM has convinced the GOP to nominate a RINO two elections in a row now. The right-wing stopped appearing on the ballot eight years ago.

CrustyB on September 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Thank you for sharing. Here’s the deal. We had a primary. Romney won. Now it’s Obama or Romney. Label them as you will. Lefty, Planet Healer, RINO, SCHMINO, whatever.

Now pick one for your next president. Your choice. It’s one or the other.

Have a nice day!

pianomomma on September 7, 2012 at 5:47 PM

After Obama is done with another 4 years no one will ever want to vote democrat again.

The Notorious G.O.P on September 7, 2012 at 3:31 PM

That’s probably more accurate.

Solaratov on September 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM

What “right wing”?

nottakingsides on September 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM

I think we should put Chrissy on suicide watch, for his own good. Things are not going to go well for him when Obama loses.

Midas on September 7, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Sure. Why not? I wouldn’t mind watching crissy commit suicide.

That is what you meant, isn’t it? :)

Solaratov on September 7, 2012 at 5:59 PM

“The moderates will retake the party if you smash the right.”

If Mitt Romney’s not “moderate,” who is?

You can’t get much more squishy than Mittens, Chris.

Stoic Patriot on September 7, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Matthews is trying to tell his people if they re-elect Obama they have a permanent win. He is just trying to win this election. His clownish behavior is really just trying to motivate the disappointed left and obviously the prospect that the right would be permanently done would serve this purpose. I kind of wonder at people who are taking Mathews seriously instead of seeing this is about motivating the base for this election and nothing more. Just to repeat this isn’t even a serious discussion of the facts by Matthews any more than the race-baiting about Republicans is.

Conan on September 7, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Jobs Picture Comparison: January 2009 v. August 2012 — Empty Suit Employment

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/09/jobs-picture-comparison-january-2009-v_7.html

M2RB: Stone’s “Empty Suit”

Resist We Much on September 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM

And Chrissy if the American peoples tell you to eff off for the 2nd election in a row?

CW on September 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Chris Matthews is the #1 lunatic at the MSNBC Insane Asylum.

pilamaye on September 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM

.
He is, now . . . . . . but only because “The Worst Person In The World” was sent packing.

listens2glenn on September 7, 2012 at 6:26 PM

did you notice how he always looks like a squeezed orange

tarpon on September 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM

.
Constipation.

listens2glenn on September 7, 2012 at 6:28 PM

The republican party since 1992 became the democrat party of 1960.
 
Proof: H.W. Bush, Dole, G.W. Bush, McCain, Romney.
 
jukin3 on September 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM

 
Yes at least those were but they all lost or ran as a conservative to win.
 
The GOP fully became the new Democratic Party at the convention when the leaders refused to let the Conservatives vote and stole their votes from them from now on.
 
Steveangell on September 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

 
Thanks for clearing it up. For some reason I was thinking you disagreed with my 4:11 post.

rogerb on September 7, 2012 at 6:39 PM

By the way, the best way to beat the right-wing is to beat them. If he beats them in this election, they’re finished. And I think that’s the point. And the moderates will come back. And Jeb Bush will come back. And the people like Chris Christie will come back. The moderates will retake the party if you smash the right.

excerpt: Chris Matthews

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The best way to beat anybody is to “beat them”.
That’s for those of you to whom it wasn’t obvious; like Chris.
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However, his statement overall indicates we’re gaining in the battle of the “Overton Window”.

Chris is desperately trying to yank it back in his direction, by implying that those persons controlling the Republican Party are “extreme right-wingers”.

Meanwhile, a majority of us (I believe) are upset that we don’t have as “conservative” a candidate as we were hoping for a year ago.

listens2glenn on September 7, 2012 at 6:45 PM

The GOP has really just been a RINO party at least since 1928.

Name one true Conservative since Coolidge that has led the party to victory except Reagan in 1980 and 1984?

You can’t.

Ironically…. Coolidge was Reagan’s favorite President.

PappyD61 on September 7, 2012 at 6:47 PM

why doesnt a guy like matthews understand that for example the American Eagle is a great bird with a powerful left wing and a right wing, and in the larger middle is the body where the heart eyes & brain reside.

Take away one wing or the other, and the bird can only fly in crippled circles if it even gets off the ground. Take away the brain heart & eyes and the most powerful wings ever made cant move.

Kinda sorta the big whole thing about the social contract in a free country is we dont see the value in lopping off an entire wing of the Eagle, regardless of which side its on over hyped-up disagreements about policy, is it not?

thats what makes Matthews and his ilk so tedious and why in the sandy fluke are we/I laboring over it, when the hour of Friday Beer-Thirty having arrived?

Sacramento on September 7, 2012 at 7:32 PM

his ability to beclown himself seems to know no bounds.

Fish-in-a-barrel syndrome.

Tim_CA on September 7, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Obama followers are reminding me of Jonestown…..

http://history1900s.about.com/od/1970s/p/jonestown.htm

redguy on September 7, 2012 at 8:36 PM

“The best way to beat the right-wing is to beat them.”

This guy makes millions to speak his mind and all his poor mouth gets is this.

rukiddingme on September 7, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Sissy should get a sex change and have Obama’s baby..that’s the only way he’s going to feel fulfilled.

bluesdoc70 on September 7, 2012 at 9:48 PM

These progressive nuts just can’t face reality, can they?

From 2009:

The Emerging Democratic Majority by John B. Judis and Ruy Teixeira

40 More Years: How Democrats Will Rule the Next Generation by James Carville

“The Death of Conservatism” by Sam Tanenhaus. From his interview in Newsweek:

The Democrats now dominate our heliocentric system—first on the economic stimulus, which is already proving to be at least a limited success, and now on the issue of health-care reform. These are both entirely Democratic initiatives. The Republicans, so intent on thwarting Obama, have vacated the field, and left it up to the sun party to accept the full burden of legislating us into the future. If the Democrats succeed, Republicans will be tagged as the party that declined even to help repair a broken system and extend fundamental protections—logical extensions of Social Security and Medicare—to some 46 million people who now don’t have them. This could marginalize the right for a generation, if not longer.

“This could marginalize the right for a generation, if not longer.” Delusional.

JimC on September 7, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Chrissy really needs to have an exam to discover what is causing those disturbing tingles. Having fleas is no laughing matter.

DannoJyd on September 8, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Tingles is just channeling George Armstrong Custer.

opaobie on September 8, 2012 at 12:09 AM

If Romney wins the election, Tingles is probably finished. Or maybe he’ll turn into a Republican — AGAIN.

Concerned_American on September 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM

“Dave. My mind is going. I can feel it,” -HAL 9000

Matthews is not aging gracefully. Let’s just put it that way. Calling MSNBC a nationally televised platform is a stretch too. And I thought MS bailed on them. In any case, since there’s no chance that a leftie would be embarrassed by lunatic ravings, either their own or those of their fellow travellers (i.e. Granholm) back to the philosophical question: If an MSNBC commentator barked at the moon in the woods and there was no conservative web site to post about it, would anybody hear it?

curved space on September 8, 2012 at 8:06 AM

What he’s really saying , he’s a goner.

Matthews mission in life is to somehow assuage his liberal white guilt or to mate with Barry bamsyahhhh !!!!!! you da mannn bammy babbyy!!!!! love ya barry ol buddy ol palll !!yahhh!!!!!!!!

Co on 36 PM

cableguy615 on September 8, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Did he just imply that Mitch McConnell is some kind of hard right extremist?

Seriously?

The man’s grip on reality is tenuous to put it mildly.

CorporatePiggy on September 8, 2012 at 9:37 AM

If Mathews ratings go down any further he is “DONE”

rirogers on September 8, 2012 at 10:30 AM

I can’t wait until election day and watch Chris being forced off stage in a straight jacket.

Decoski on September 8, 2012 at 3:05 PM

The kindest thing that can be said about Chris Matthews is that he is an idiot He is also a liar and a bigot, but then that qualifies him to be a Democrat.

georgeofthedesert on September 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM

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