Quotes of the day

posted at 10:37 pm on September 6, 2012 by Allahpundit

Rep. Mike Rogers, the Michigan Republican who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, says that his much-discussed meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem late last month did, in fact, devolve into an sharp confrontation between Netanyahu and the American ambassador to Israel, the former National Security Council official (and former Obama campaign Jewish liaison), Dan Shapiro…

When Beckmann asked Rogers to describe the tenor of the meeting, he said: “Very tense. Some very sharp… exchanges and it was very, very clear the Israelis had lost their patience with the (Obama) Administration.” He went on, “There was no doubt. You could not walk out of that meeting and think that they had not lost their patience with this Administration.”…

“You know, it’s a very interesting argument when you’re in the room and talking about options.The meeting was designed, it was supposed to be between Netanyahu and myself on some intelligence cooperation matters and other matters, when it came to Iran and Syria and other things, and kind of devolved into this meeting where the ambassador was confronted directly… what was very apparent to me was a lot of frustration with the lack of clarity and the uncertainty about what their position is on the Iranian nuclear program. And that’s what I think I saw across the Middle East. The uncertainty about where the United States’ position is on those questions has created lots of problems and anxiety that I think doesn’t serve the world well and doesn’t serve peace well.”

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With Israel openly debating whether to strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities in the coming months, the Obama administration is moving ahead with a range of steps short of war that it hopes will forestall an Israeli attack, while forcing the Iranians to take more seriously negotiations that are all but stalemated…

The question of how explicit Mr. Obama’s warnings to Iran should be is still a subject of internal debate, closely tied to election-year politics. Some of Mr. Obama’s advisers have argued that Israel needs a stronger public assurance that he is willing to take military action, well before Iran actually acquired a weapon. But other senior officials have argued that Israel is trying to corner Mr. Obama into a military commitment that he does not yet need to make…

Inside the Obama White House, there has also been debate about whether Mr. Obama needs to reshape his negotiating strategy around clear “red lines” for Iran — steps beyond which the United States would not allow the country to go. Earlier this year Mr. Obama said he believed that the United States and its allies could not simply accept a nuclear Iran, largely because of the high risk that other Arab states would seek weapons.

Even if Mr. Obama set a clear “red line” now, its credibility may be questionable.

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The United States has indirectly informed Iran, via two European nations, that it would not back an Israeli strike against the country’s nuclear facilities, as long as Tehran refrains from attacking American interests in the Persian Gulf, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.

According to the report, Washington used covert back-channels in Europe to clarify that the US does not intend to back Israel in a strike that may spark a regional conflict.

In return, Washington reportedly expects Iran to steer clear of strategic American assets in the Persian Gulf, such as military bases and aircraft carriers.

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Iran makes no distinction between U.S. and Israeli interests and will retaliate against both countries if attacked, an Iranian military commander said on Wednesday…

“The Zionist regime separated from America has no meaning, and we must not recognize Israel as separate from America,” Ali Fadavi, naval commander in Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, was quoted as saying by the Fars news agency.

“On this basis, today only the Americans have taken a threatening stance towards the Islamic Republic,” Fadavi said. “If the Americans commit the smallest folly they will not leave the region safely.”

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Iran could strike US bases in the Middle East in response to any Israeli strike on its nuclear facilities, the leader of Lebanon’s Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah said on Monday…

“The response will not be just inside the Israeli entity – American bases in the whole region could be Iranian targets,” he said, citing information he said was from Iranian officials. “If Israel targets Iran, America bears responsibility.”

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After a summer of stoking media speculation that Israel would bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities before Americans go to the polls in November, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak appear to be dialing things down. Netanyahu on Monday repeated his new message that war can be avoided, at least for now, if the U.S. is willing to publicly declare a clear “red line” that, if crossed by Iran, would trigger a U.S. military response. Since President Barack Obama last spring clearly stated that he would order military action if Iran moved to build a nuclear weapon, there would be nothing new in reiterating such a position — except, perhaps, that it could be spun, together with a series of largely symbolic gestures reportedly being weighed by the Obama Administration to placate the Israelis, as a enough of a concession to allow Netanyahu and Barak to clamber down from the limb on which their war talk has left them. It has been nothing short of astonishing, in fact, how isolated on the Iran issue Israel’s saber-rattlers-in-chief have become over the summer, not least among Israel’s own defense and security establishment…

The Israeli prime minister’s supporters will paint whatever statements and gestures emerge from the White House as a victory for his strategy of relentless saber-rattling. Netanyahu’s problem, though, is that Obama’s red line — preventing the Iranians from acquiring a nuclear weapon — is not the same as the Israeli red line, which insists that Iran can’t be allowed to maintain the nuclear infrastructure that it already has, even though that infrastructure falls within the limits of what is permissible for NPT signatories, because it can be repurposed to create weapons-grade materiel. And as last week’s IAEA report confirmed, Iran is gliding past Israeli red lines while carefully avoiding approaching U.S. limits.

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Stunned by a rebuke from the United States’ top general, Israel is preparing a climbdown strategy in its war of words over Iran’s nuclear program, aware that its room for maneuver is shrinking rapidly.

Anxious to prevent any flare-up in the Middle East ahead of November elections, there is also a good chance that U.S. President Barack Obama will provide Israel with enough cover to avoid a loss of face, analysts say…

“Israeli leaders cannot do anything in the face of a very explicit ‘no’ from the U.S. president. So they are exploring what space they have left to operate,” said Giora Eiland, who served as national security adviser from 2003 to 2006.

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Via Mediaite.


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So woodworking is a way to produce something myself and see results. It’s a matter of relaxation.

AZfederalist on September 7, 2012 at 2:07 AM

ROTFLMAO… Leroy Jethro Gibbs and his damned boats… ;p

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:08 AM

AZfederalist on September 7, 2012 at 2:07 AM

Goodnight, AZ!Sleep well!

thatsafactjack on September 7, 2012 at 2:08 AM

PS — Anybody else like that cover? I have to stop posting for a while ’cause of monopolization.

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:09 AM

And I’ve got a real one — heh.)

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:07 AM

Only one? Heck, even I’ve got three… ;p

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:09 AM

I bid you all a goodnight. Its been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on September 7, 2012 at 2:10 AM

Steveangell on September 7, 2012 at 2:08 AM

STFU and move to Mexico or something already.

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:11 AM

But as word gets out it could be Obama 43% Romney 20% or less. Romney will be lucky if he gets 100 EC votes.

Steveangell on September 7, 2012 at 2:08 AM

What word?

I bid you all a goodnight. Its been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on September 7, 2012 at 2:10 AM

Night Jackie!

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:13 AM

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:01 AM

Very nice tune!..A classic..:)

PS..Qick ???..You did get my True Colors Petr Burton reference in an earlier post??..:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:14 AM

STFU and move to Mexico or something already.

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:11 AM

Hey Walker–Tell him it’s “Whig”.
(I’d tell him myself, but I once had a bad experience talking to crazy people.)

thatsafactjack on September 7, 2012 at 2:10 AM

Night, Jackie.

RedCrow on September 7, 2012 at 2:16 AM

AZfederalist on September 7, 2012 at 2:07 AM

Good oint!..:)

PS..Enjoyed it as always..:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:16 AM

thatsafactjack on September 7, 2012 at 2:10 AM

Later..Enjoyed it!.:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:01 AM

Very nice tune!..A classic..:)

PS..Quick ???..You did get my True Colors Peter Burton reference in an earlier post??..:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:14 AM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:18 AM

AZfederalist on September 7, 2012 at 2:07 AM

Good point!..:)

PS..Enjoyed it as always..:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:16 AM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:18 AM

LOL — All you have to do is slow down!

I hate to admit this, but I didn’t get the reference. I had to look it up. I knew the quote, but is that where it comes from? I never knew that. I haven’t seen it.

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:25 AM

Only one? Heck, even I’ve got three… ;p

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Yeah, but I suck. :)

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:26 AM

See y’all later!

RedCrow on September 7, 2012 at 2:27 AM

Hey Walker–Tell him it’s “Whig”.
(I’d tell him myself, but I once had a bad experience talking to crazy people.)

RedCrow on September 7, 2012 at 2:16 AM

Dude certainly is crazy, seems he just doesn’t understand that the only person around here that he is fooling with his BS… Is himself. During the 70′s the sales geeks for IBM created a concept called FUD, Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. All he is doing is attempting to use that FUD concept to dishearten and discourage people from voting.

Herein the United states we have a particular political system. That system my be cumbersome but it is what we have. You either work within it and try to be part of the solution, or you are part of the problem. My guess is that he is either one of those profoundly immature and narcissistic individuals whose preferred candidate didn’t get nominated and he is to anal to get over it, or he is a democrat trying to scare Republicans into giving up before the battle is over.

Either way, he is a troll and nobody here is falling for his BS.

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:28 AM

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:04 AM

I care about your peg-leg. How did the procedure go? Did they attach a limb (get it? limb) that you liked? What kind of wood was it? Hickory would be nice. Sharks have trouble biting into Hickory.

SparkPlug on September 7, 2012 at 2:29 AM

Your name is Axe, you prolly could chop your own limb now that I think about it.

SparkPlug on September 7, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Only one? Heck, even I’ve got three… ;p

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Yeah, but I suck. :)

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:26 AM

ROTFLMAO…that’s such a subjective judgement… I think I suck, considering I’ve been at it for over 40 years. Yet my playing has been known to scare the hell out of people who haven’t played anywhere near as long.

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Your name is Axe, you prolly could chop your own limb now that I think about it.

SparkPlug on September 7, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Cough cough… Axe is slang for a guitar… cough cough…;)

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Axe on September 7, 2012 at 2:25 AM

You make a good point!..:)

PS.Pretty good flick if you are into politics..Plus it has some very good actors in it..Worth seeing for sure..imho..:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:43 AM

RedCrow on September 7, 2012 at 2:27 AM

Excellent!..Enjoyed it!.:)

Dire Straits on September 7, 2012 at 2:45 AM

Well dang-it, looks like anybody with any common sense snuck off to bed…

SWalker on September 7, 2012 at 2:47 AM

I think the Republicans should run a commercials showing the Democrats booing Israel (Jerusalem) at the convention and show it in Florida, and the suburbs around the big cities in Ohio, Virginia, PA and Michigan. There is a real chance that Romney can get up to 35% of the Jewish voters this year and not just because of Israel and Obama’s muddled Middle East policies- but also because they don’t like all this class warfare business of rich against poor. If Romney does win 35% of the Jewish vote (McCain got 22%) it will swing Florida for sure and if the election is close enough in those other states mentioned, could be the difference there as well. Jews are slowly waking up to the idea that the Democratic Party no longer represents all their interests. Yes, a good number are still social liberals and will stick with Obama while not liking it a bit. But a decent chunk can be won by Romney but Republicans have to go after it and actually ask these voters to consider what has happened with Israel since Obama has become President. Ads should be placed in all the Jewish newpapers around the big cities mentioned. Obama has become the most anti-Israel President since Carter. Just remember what happened in special election in NY last year. This could happen on a national basis this year and the Democrats at the convention may pay for all that booing. For too long Democrats have taken Jewish voters for granted. It’s time all of that changed.

jake22 on September 7, 2012 at 3:08 AM

In his closing benediction, Timothy Cardinal Dolan gave the kind of benediction that the Obama re-election campaign probably feared he would give when Dolan was initially rejected, and later approved, to give the closing prayer….

This is from his prayer. The full text is at the link:

…We beseech you, almighty God to shed your grace on this noble experiment in ordered liberty, which began with the confident assertion of inalienable rights bestowed upon us by you: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Thus do we praise you for the gift of life. Grant us the courage to defend it, life, without which no other rights are secure. We ask your benediction on those waiting to be born, that they may be welcomed and protected….

We praise and thank you for the gift of liberty. May this land of the free never lack those brave enough to defend our basic freedoms. Renew in all our people a profound respect for religious liberty: the first, most cherished freedom bequeathed upon us at our Founding. May our liberty be in harmony with truth; freedom ordered in goodness and justice. Help us live our freedom in faith, hope, and love. Make us ever-grateful for those who, for over two centuries, have given their lives in freedom’s defense; we commend their noble souls to your eternal care, as even now we beg the protection of your mighty arm upon our men and women in uniform.

We praise and thank you for granting us the life and the liberty by which we can pursue happiness. Show us anew that happiness is found only in respecting the laws of nature and of nature’s God….

And most of all, God Almighty, we thank you for the great gift of our beloved country.

For we are indeed “one nation under God,” and “in God we trust.”

So dear God, bless America. You who live and reign forever and ever.

Amen!

INC on September 7, 2012 at 3:19 AM

Morning Moaning Joe Watchers

You might as well completely not watch the show. Phil Griffiths, the head of MSNBC, the guy who writes the paychecks, is there in person.

So you’ll get this, From Conservative Joe, The “Republican”:

Mika: “Now here’s a clip from the Vice-President….”
Joe: “He’s great!”
Mika: “Joe Biden spoke before President…”
Joe: “I just love him!”

They’re all slobbering over Obama to keep their paychecks. Scarborough, you are ridiculous. You can’t even call a bad speech a bad speech. Political hack.

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 6:51 AM

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 6:51 AM

No surprise. He likes his paycheck more than his ethics.

kingsjester on September 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM

You know what’s interesting, is that on Fox News someone said Obama may have been flat and un-smiling after his speech because he’s seen the numbers about to be released, 90 minutes from now.
Apparently the WH gets a sneak peak the day before.

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 6:59 AM

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 6:59 AM

I agree. Plus, the Internal Poll numbers probably stink on ice.

kingsjester on September 7, 2012 at 7:13 AM

Thanks for the update Marcus unable to watch with you this am

cmsinaz on September 7, 2012 at 7:18 AM

So what did they do instead of balloons?

txmomof6 on September 7, 2012 at 7:19 AM

So what did they do instead of balloons?

txmomof6 on September 7, 2012 at 7:19 AM

Confetti machine.

bluegill on September 7, 2012 at 7:21 AM

joe scarborough just said that obama better at speeches than debates. said he’s too smart for a debate format…..the quickly added or thinks he’s too smart.

what a clown.

renalin on September 7, 2012 at 7:22 AM

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 6:51 AM

It’s truly comedic this AM. They’re all sitting around talking about the danger of the Dems being too confident as a result of their super-amazing convention, capped off by Obama’s super-amazing speech. What a hoot!

MJBrutus on September 7, 2012 at 7:25 AM

Joe laying it on pretty thick eh?

cmsinaz on September 7, 2012 at 7:25 AM

I’m really liking Ted Cruz. He is doing great right now on Fox and Friends.

Also, it’s interesting how people are calling that Julian Castro guy the next Barack Obama. Julian Castro seems like a big nothing. I guess he’s the next unqualified affirmative action candidate to be pushed by national MSM propagandists who want to make everything about race/ethnicity and give special points to anyone not caucasian. Yep, sounds like he and Barack Obama have a lot in common, after all.

bluegill on September 7, 2012 at 7:28 AM

But I will never vote for an evil man. The ends never justifies the means.

Steveangell on September 7, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Interesting.
So who did you vote for the last few elections??

Delusional at best imo.

Mimzey on September 7, 2012 at 7:30 AM

MSNBC spin: Obama was flat and dull and uninspiring, because he’s “Presidential”.

Side note: Scarborough claims, claims, that his show beat Fox & Friends (“the other one”) in the ratings this week. I wouldn’t be surprised. Fox has GOT to do something with that show. Maybe they’ll be better back in New York next week. They’re just sitting in an empty NC parking lot and no body to interview. Why even go.

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 7:30 AM

They’re just sitting in an empty NC parking lot and no body to interview. Why even go.

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 7:30 AM

I disagree. I love F&F. It moves at a much faster pace than the plodding Morning Joe. Also, F&F interviewed people every day this week!

Wouldn’t be surprised if MSNBC got slightly higher ratings this week, as many conservatives just tuned out news coverage, not wanting to even be annoyed with the DNC convention clown show. MSNBC also had very good evening ratings for the convention coverage. Of course, MSNBC won’t be able to maintain any kind of ratings advantage moving forward.

Anyway, I think a lot of conservative tv viewers breathed a sigh of relief this morning, knowing they could turn on their favorite news shows again without having to be bombarded with non-stop coverage of Democrat speeches.

bluegill on September 7, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Steveangell on September 7, 2012 at 2:08 AM

LOL. The concern-troll Obama voter post of all concern-troll Obama voter posts.

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 7:38 AM

Check out the top of DRUDGE! LOL

Flora Duh on September 7, 2012 at 7:43 AM

You know what’s interesting, is that on Fox News someone said Obama may have been flat and un-smiling after his speech because he’s seen the numbers about to be released, 90 minutes from now.
Apparently the WH gets a sneak peak the day before.

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 6:59 AM

Sneak peek? I have no doubt that somebody from the administration was standing behind the number crunchers and milking as many “jobs” as possible out of the data. The thing is that “creation” of burger flipping jobs does not replace a jobs in engineering or medicine but as far as the numbers go, a job is a job.

Happy Nomad on September 7, 2012 at 7:53 AM

I tried to watch Morning Joe, but it’s just too much for me this morning. Total clown car, and nobody’s wearing their seatbelts.

I’m setting my DVR right now to record it on November 7th, when they’ll be sitting shiva for hopenchange.

Naturally Curly on September 7, 2012 at 7:53 AM

It’s truly comedic this AM. They’re all sitting around talking about the danger of the Dems being too confident as a result of their super-amazing convention, capped off by Obama’s super-amazing speech. What a hoot!

MJBrutus on September 7, 2012 at 7:25 AM

Apparently Brokaw wasn’t the only one taking drugs in Charlotte.

Happy Nomad on September 7, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Check out the top of DRUDGE! LOL

Flora Duh on September 7, 2012 at 7:43 AM

Granholm’s speech was unbelievably cheap and dishonest (even by Democrat standards), and it looks like she tried to deliver it in a way that would bring her some attention. I guess she’s looking to get back into politics or to become appointed to something by Obama, should he win, which he will not. This woman Granholm doesn’t even have 1/100th the class of former Michigan governor George Romney, Mitt’s very classy father. She’s a sore loser and failed miserably as governor, and people in Michigan know it.

bluegill on September 7, 2012 at 7:56 AM

Newsbusters has Howard Fineman spinning that “Republicans talking about the economic conditions we have currently is unpatriotic“.

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM

bluegill on September 7, 2012 at 7:56 AM

I can only think that the internals in Michigan must truly scare them.

Marcus on September 7, 2012 at 7:58 AM

The Ativans are being popped left and right on the morning spews. I wandered over to CNN and got a face full of “Hey! Barko really put Romney in his place, huh?”

Bishop on September 7, 2012 at 8:03 AM

I don’t care what “Dick” Durbin says, the Democrats are on the record as being a party of Godless anti-semites.

Mr. Grump on September 7, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Israel has always been cautious at getting involved directly with presidential campaigns…however, I think this one is pushing the limits of their patience.

I would not be surprised if some “signals” were going to be sent out against Obama…and this may have been the first one, or it may have been the final exasperating attempt at trying to tell the administration that they are wearing thin…

The result? Big money being withheld from Obama…

right2bright on September 7, 2012 at 8:21 AM

Labor force falls by over 360K.

Bad news for Obama.

Labor participation rate lowest in a generation.

bluegill on September 7, 2012 at 8:31 AM

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