Is DoJ suit against Gallup retaliation for bad Obama poll numbers?
posted at 10:41 am on September 6, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
So says the Daily Caller, which questions the timing of a lawsuit brought against Gallup by Eric Holder and the Department of Justice over claims of overbilling for services. Matthew Boyle does his best to connect dots after the release of e-mails show Gallup’s response to a request from “the White House” to explain their methodology and David Axelrod’s attempt to publicly wheedle the venerable polling service into changing its modeling to improve Barack Obama’s standing:
Internal emails between senior officials at The Gallup Organization, obtained by The Daily Caller, show senior Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod attempting to subtly intimidate the respected polling firm when its numbers were unfavorable to the president.
After Gallup declined to change its polling methodology, Obama’s Department of Justice hit it with an unrelated lawsuit that appears damning on its face.
Appears is the operative word, but we’ll get back to that in a moment. First, Boyle reports on internal e-mails at Gallup after Axelrod publicly questioned Gallup’s modeling of the 2012 electorate:
Internally, Gallup officials discussed via email how to respond Axelrod’s accusations. One suggested that it “seems like a pretty good time for a blog response,” and named a potential writer.
In response to that suggestion, another senior Gallup official wrote — in an email chain titled “Axelrod vs. Gallup” — that the White House “has asked” a senior Gallup staffer “to come over and explain our methodology too.”
That Gallup official, the email continued, “has a plan that includes blogging and telling WH [the White House] he would love to have them come over here etc. This could be a very good moment for us to [show] our super rigorous methods compared to weak samples etc. …”
The writer named several news organizations with their own polling methodologies, all of which resulted in numbers more favorable to President Obama at the time.
In response to that email, a third senior Gallup official said he thought Axelrod’s pressure “sounds a little like a Godfather situation.”
“Imagine Axel[rod] with Brando’s voice: ‘[Name redacted], I’d like you to come over and explain your methodology…You got a nice poll there….would be a shame if anything happened to it…’”
In a second email chain titled “slanderous link about Gallup methodology,” another senior Gallup official noted that a Washington Examiner story on Axelrod’s anti-Gallup tweet was “on [the] Drudge [Report] right now,” before writing that the episode was “[s]o politically motivated, it’s laughable.”
“As they say in b-ball: he’s trying to work the refs,” that official wrote to other senior Gallup staffers. “What a joke. Axel’s had a bad week. He got in the middle of the Ann Romney thing. Then said the country is going in the wrong direction. (Oops!) Now he’s swinging at us….”
This exchange took place in the spring of this year. The problem with the “retaliation” theory is that the dispute between Gallup and the DoJ goes back to 2009. Boyle reports that long after the jump. In fact, the DoJ served subpoenas on Gallup in early 2010, although it took another 18 months to the fall of 2011 to get a meeting between Gallup and the DoJ. The whistleblower filed the initial lawsuit, which the DoJ joined last month, four months after Axelrod’s public complaint about modeling in the electoral polls.
Could this be retaliation? It’s possible, I suppose, but it’s not terribly rational, with no upside and lots of downside over a nearly-meaningless issue. People complain about polling models all the time; heck, I do it nearly every week, including Gallup’s occasionally. Polls arguably have some impact on elections, but Axelrod and Obama have far more influence on elections than Gallup or any other pollster, so intimidation and retaliation won’t do anything to improve their prospects that they couldn’t do for themselves.
And even if one thinks it might, why wait so long to retaliate? The worst possible time for retaliation against a pollster is two months before an election, when their results get the maximum amount of attention. It’s the investigation that intimidates, not the lawsuit, which is the other shoe dropping. If one was inclined to think that Gallup might skew results to a favored outcome, wouldn’t it now be in their interest to work against Obama to change the AG and end the lawsuit?
Gabriel Malor is equally skeptical:
It’s true that Axelrod criticized Gallup and that DOJ is suing Gallup, but there’s no evidence – not even the timing- that they’re related.
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012
That lawsuit has been in the works since 2009, long before Axelrod got huffy at Gallup in April of this year.
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012
DOJ is suing Gallup to recover taxpayer money that it’s owed due to Gallup’s (alleged) overbilling.
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012
The lawsuit arose because a former Gallup employee noted that Gallup overcharges for its government contracts.
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012
This isn’t journalism. It’s innuendo.
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012
I wouldn’t go that far. Boyle’s piece is more analysis than journalism, and the stories of Axelrod’s gripe and the DoJ lawsuit against Gallup are both interesting. This just looks like an effort to connect dots that simply aren’t connectable.
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Holder knows where all the bodies are buried. That’s the only reason he’s lasted this long. He is easily the worst AG we have ever had, yet he seems to be made of Teflon. If Holder is going it’s because he’s decided he wants to go.
NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 9:57 AM
Holder’s lost Bill Press? That’s one of the nastiest, most partisan Democrat apologists you’ll find. This is not looking good for the regime.
Doughboy on May 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM
‘Toons of the Day: Be Not Afraid Of Big Government…Or Else…
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM
Prediction:
After a few more weeks of scurrying around, shuffling a few bureaucrats and demagoguing Rush Limbaugh, the media will let this latest fight in their marriage wane, and it will be back to business as usual with “Obama’s taken charge and is BACK, baby” as the coin of the realm.
Bank on it.
Good Lt on May 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM
What I find interesting is that they did this without Holder’s or Obama’s knowledge… yet it’s suppose to be a big national security issue for which it’s worth doing this drastic measure to track down the leaker. Also, what I find interesting is that they’re still kind of defending the actions taken.
ninjapirate on May 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM
As your boss emeritus so eloquently puts it: DLTDHYOTWO
jwehman on May 16, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Would Patrick really be stupid enough to take this job in this environment? I assume Patrick imagines he could someday make a run at the WH himself.
NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 10:01 AM
So the racist Eric Holder’s “punishment” is going to be leaving a job hardly anyone holds for more than four years anyway, with a nice pension, and wind up with an “only sow up when you want” position at a think-tank or university?
Meanwhile, two border agents are still dead and a filmmaker sits in jail.
rbj on May 16, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Sandra Fluke for AG.
She surely is non-partisan now that she has free birth control pills.
txdoc on May 16, 2013 at 10:02 AM
I guess I should read the whole post instead of replying paragraph by paragraph. :P
NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM
HolderJanet Reno knows where all the bodies are buried. That’s the only reason (s)he’s lasted this long. (S)He is easily the worst AG we have ever had, yet (s)he seems to be made of Teflon. IfHolderReno is going it’s because he’s decided he wants to go.NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 9:57 AM
Fixed for historical accuracy.
Granted Holder has a higher body count of innocents than Reno but Reno killed more Americans.
Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Fauxcohontas….She’s a bonified perfessor of Law and everything
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Funny how the MSM was A-OK with Obama/Holder et al, but this snooping on the AP is just beyond the pale now.
Bitter Clinger on May 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM
…he was never “AWARE” of anything…while he was in!
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM
He recused himself from doing his job awhile ago. He just didn’t put it in writing and he doesn’t remember when it was.
Time to put it in writing and make it official.
farsighted on May 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM
My thought as well – Bill Press is a certifiable dbag.
Thank God he left WMAL’s morning show some time ago. When he was barely tolerable in the company of two conservatives (if I remember he format), he must have become completely unhinged when he got his own show.
22044 on May 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM
The media isn’t going to stay mad forever but I would suggest that you can’t look at this stuff as only about them. If the other scandals grow (and they will) there is no way that the media can again join the rat-eared passerby on that raft on a sea of oblivion.
Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM
Somebody suggested Rudy Guliani as special prosecutor on another thread…
I’d like to 2nd that.
That would be awesome indeed.
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:09 AM
He needs to be cuffed, fitted for an orange jumpsuit and frogmarched thru the streets of Matamoras.
HumpBot Salvation on May 16, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Imagine being grilled by your own boss when they ask why the official project plan that you managed was heavily altered and you said “Hell, I don’t know, go ask someone else”.
Holder is a jackwagon of the highest order but I cringe to think which retard apparatchik the Dog Eater would install in his place.
Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Humpty Dumpty comes to mind.
Limerick on May 16, 2013 at 10:10 AM
Deval Patrick and not a womyn?
War on Womyn continues…
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM
Well, he can always go back to defending Muslims Terrorists at his old law firm.
kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 10:13 AM
NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 10:13 AM
…Valarie doesn’t want any competition!
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM
Beckham announces retirement and that will be the lead story all weekend. Nothing to see at the DOJ.
Limerick on May 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM
..with a permanent office… at Gitmo?
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Deval Patrick, apparently.
Seems Dear Leader disproportionately favors blacks for AG.
farsighted on May 16, 2013 at 10:16 AM
This is a problem the REB is going to have over the next few years. Who wants to join a failing, incompetent administration? Only hard-left sycophants, not competent people that have other choices.
Who wants a job where there’s a good chance you will have to hire a personal lawyer at your own expense?
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 10:17 AM
How many times did Holder claim ignorance? This many.
CJ on May 16, 2013 at 10:17 AM
…I think Martin Luther King was a major mentor for JugEars?
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 10:18 AM
The tide has shifted to Democrats just trying to minimize losses for 2014. Give it about a month and that strategy will be extending out to 2016.
Time to clear some dead wood!
can_con on May 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM
We should be having a discussion about eliminating the office altogether. It’s an office created by Congress in 1789. Seems archaic and nonprogressive to me.
RushBaby on May 16, 2013 at 10:21 AM
Charles Manson. He’s up for parole at some point..don’t laugh.
ToddPA on May 16, 2013 at 10:21 AM
Replacing one lap dog with another
Dear leader will still be kept out of the loop to feign plausible deniability
cmsinaz on May 16, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Good Gawd. This fud leads the DOJ but apparently doesn’t know anything about anything.
Imagine that anywhere else:
-Captain Smith, why did your ship the USS Carl Vinson launch Super Hornets last night and drop bombs on coastal towns in Florida?
“I don’t know.”
Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Yep.
Even if Republicans block his selection, he’ll just leave the post vacant until a Senate recess and then recess-appoint his own guy. And he’ll do it despite the court opinion against that kind of recess appointment.
Bitter Clinger on May 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Press not totally lost to the cause:
davidk on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 AM
4 years too late. But then, everything about the slimy DemocRats is 4 years too late.
kirkill on May 16, 2013 at 10:30 AM
I think Suge Knight would make a fine replacement.
forest on May 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM
Well if holder does get the boot, his replacement will have to pass the wh test to be nominated, MUST NOT be able to tell the truth, EVER!
L
letget on May 16, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Is there even a person of integrity to be found among the Democrats, much less anyone affiliated even obliquely with Obysmal?
onlineanalyst on May 16, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Under Holder, it’s definitely become the Department of Just-Us.
Not to worry about him, however, he can always live off the millions he got from Marc Rich for the pardon he got Clinton to give him, or the residuals he gets for his work representing jihadis and terrorists before assuming the AG office.
TXUS on May 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Deval Patrick?Good Lord…
sandee on May 16, 2013 at 10:36 AM
More likely Daniel arap Moi.
Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 10:36 AM
…or the profits from his wife’s abortion clinic in Atlanta.
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM
After watching Holder’s performance, I figured he knew his time was up. He was throwing out personal nasty rhetoric to charge up his base. It’s the only way he’ll maintain any street cred for his speaking fees. He’s in it only for the money now.
pt on May 16, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Hey, just because no one has ever seen a unicorn doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
Although, in this case, should such a rare creature as a Democrat-with-integrity actually be found, I can’t imagine it wanting to come anywhere near this administration.
CJ on May 16, 2013 at 10:41 AM
I watched a whole lot of the hearing last night and can confirm there were at least two and a hint of a third democrat that is not bound by their party to lay off Holder. Zoe Loefgren (CA) and Bobby Scott (VA) brought it to him. Loefgren even set up Lamar Alexander. Who is the rep from Alabama that appeared to catch Holder in a lie? And who was the rep that got all that Pigforn information on the record?
Holder must have said “I don’t know” about 100 times. That made for very good TV. Thank you Louis Gomert! He really tied Holder up.
DanMan on May 16, 2013 at 10:43 AM
The report said “one of the first” meaning there were a few to several, Ed. Oh, and there is a significant difference between “came close” and actually throwing a ringer by not just calling for Holder to step down but to fire him: Ringers win.
Dusty on May 16, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Looks like they need a strong woman like Hillary to take over /sarc
Bradky on May 16, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Why not
Imelda…Michelle…She’s a lawyer…Oh Wait!workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:51 AM
A riot, huh?
Funny how when it is about them..they suddenly give a shite.
bazil9 on May 16, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Bill Richardson…Latinos are in style this year and who says the AG has to actually know the law…Holder doesn’t seem to…Besides Richardson has plenty of experience with scandal…Win Win?
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Deval Patrick and not a womyn?
War on Womyn continues…
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM
bazil9 on May 16, 2013 at 10:54 AM
The best comment on the AP scandal came from Dennis Miller last night. AP, the biggest butt kissers in the world having Barack Obama tell them kiss my butt!!!
logicman_1998 on May 16, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Leave Eric alone! He was just keeping Barry’s whores “honest”.
GarandFan on May 16, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Paving his road the same way Van Jones did so that he can blame Big Whitey after he’s left and gain leftist sympathy.
Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Yes, and this is why Janet Reno lasted all eight years of the Clinton presidency though there was every evidence that Clinton couldn’t stand the woman. Holder lasts as long as Obama lasts.
casuist on May 16, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Unconscionable. Nothing else needs to be said.
NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 11:10 AM
The only worthwhile part of the Ted Baxter show is Miller’s once-a-week five minutes.
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Wrong thread. This was meant for the thread on the IRS attacking pro-life groups.
NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Oh please let him nominate Deval Patrick and get him out of my state!!
cdog0613 on May 16, 2013 at 11:29 AM
I enjoyed watching Holder squirm when he admitted that when Patreus Director of the CIA was compromised by affair and under investigation that this didn’t represent a security breach and so Holder didn’t tell the President about it…After he justified the AP phone snoops because it showed leaks that represented a serious security breach…
What a Putz!
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Scott Brown for Governor!
You know you want it.
Hot Gas on May 16, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Please think before you ask for his resignation.
“Holder for the Supreme Court” probably has a nice ring in Obama’s ear
Jes sayin’
E9RET on May 16, 2013 at 11:43 AM
????
Yep, par for the course. Whenever Obaby doesn’t get his way, he nominates someone even dumber and less competent than the person who got fired. The Dems obviously have a bottomless barrel to scrape from.
2ndMAW68 on May 16, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Fauxcohontas….She’s a bonified perfessor of Law and everything
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM
dirtengineer on May 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM
That right there speaks volumes and explains nearly everything.
tru2tx on May 16, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Holders out… so lets see….
We need someone black…
Some one who will believe anything…
Someone who won’t ask questions about scandals….
Someone who has a pre-existing fan base…
Is Rodman available?
- No, he’s in North Korea again…
How about Danny Glover?
- Too liberal?
Jay Z?!!
Free Indeed on May 16, 2013 at 12:01 PM
How long before Holder decides he needs to spend more time eavesdropping on his family?
I’m not sure. He is a firewall for Obama, insulating him from multiple scandals at the DOJ. Even is Holder remains true to the code of omerta, who would be willing to come in and take the risk of covering Obama’s tracks? Who would be willing to come in and pretend the department isn’t a cesspool of partisan politicization? When the mext scandal breaks, as it will, who can be trusted to pervert the agency’s mission to Obama’s defense under the scrutiny it will surely now face? Obama needs Holder.
Fluke may be the only tool dumb enough to volunteer for that mission…
novaculus on May 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM
If Holder’s such a close buddy to President Jarrett and Zero, why didn’t he do something to help them get re-elected?!
Oh. Never mind.
Tsar of Earth on May 16, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Not to worry, Holder will slink off to find employment elsewhere. Is’t there some corrupt liberal infested shambles of a city somewhere he’d be a cinch to run for mayor and win?
hawkeye54 on May 16, 2013 at 12:25 PM
I hear Detroit may be available. A beautiful place to settle-down.
Tsar of Earth on May 16, 2013 at 12:34 PM
In these hearings that I keep seeing, why does someone not get pissed as hell and shout down Holder since he is a literal pinhead. That man is one step away from a criminal warlord. I do not understand the spineless nature of our current Republican Party. Are they just in it with the Dems and this is all a BFS? I’m sure sick of the sad state of affairs in the Capitol.
gina4 on May 16, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Notice how fast Obama fires the White guy at the IRS after only one scandal, yet Holder has the Fast and Furious sandal, held in Contempt of Congress and Spying on the press scandal and he still has his job. Oh, and who does Obama look to replace him with? Deval Patrick.
OxyCon on May 16, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Deval Patrick wouldn’t want the job. As Governor of Mass, Patrick did receive some praise for his part (or the part of the Mass. State Police) in tracking down the Boston bombers. Why would he give up a cushy job as Governor of a deep-blue state to try to clean up Holder’s many messes, and possibly be blamed if he fails?
Steve Z on May 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM
Send the man to jail.
His pathetic defense of the terrorist-gang in Puerto Rico years ago before even being AG was more than enough to sink his character. Then there was the pathetic, crooked refusal to hold the Black Panthers responsible for their efforts to interrupt, disturb voters after he became AG…
Holder is a crooked man, despicably corrupt and should never have been confirmed as AG.
And how is it he’s still in the job AND testifying before Congress AFTER he’s been held in contempt by them a while ago?
Charge the man with crimes (to be named, a wide selection available) and send him to the pen.
Lourdes on May 16, 2013 at 1:14 PM
Never happen. Senate Republicans would filibuster his confirmation, and he would be out faster than Harriet Miers.
Steve Z on May 16, 2013 at 1:15 PM
This is the underlying problem with Obama and his administration. A good CEO doesn’t hire friends for a job more important than the mail room. He hired a friend for a very important position and they figured they’d party eight years away…until they got caught. Holder is a friend and rather than do what is right for the company (The US), Obama is trying to do right by his buddy.
hopeful on May 16, 2013 at 1:26 PM
Deval Patrick? Really? Isn’t he the guy who basically attacked Chick-fil-A for their position on gay marriage? Can’t wait to hear his explanation for that and how he and the department will defend free speech.
djaymick on May 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM
I nominate nonpartisan. (RWM could coach him for a bar exam somewhere. Arkansas maybe.)
Barnestormer on May 16, 2013 at 3:21 PM
While I suspect you are correct I have to confess that my confidence in any of the Republican leadership is not as high as your’s. And lets not kid ourselves, the Republican leadership is the problem here. They reject most of the conservative Republicans and generally rely on cooperation from the Democrats and ramrod whatever they want through the senate.
I hope their rejection of Holder for the SCOTUS would be given and made my initial comment in a somewhat jesting context, regardless, in the last few years I have come to expect very, very little from the Republican leadership both in the House and Senate; I’m seldom disappointed.
E9RET on May 16, 2013 at 3:40 PM
Like Chicago needs another pimp…..
viking01 on May 16, 2013 at 3:52 PM