Oh my: Boos at convention as Dems reinstate language on God and Jerusalem in platform; Update: Obama pushed for language to be added; Update: Or did he? Update: Will MSNBC cover?

posted at 6:01 pm on September 5, 2012 by Allahpundit

The amazing conclusion to yesterday’s snafu involving the Democratic platform’s language on Israel. After an evening of bad press they decided to reinsert the language about Jerusalem being the capital of Israel, along with some language about God after people noticed that the phrase “God-given” in the 2008 platform had been dropped in the new one. Simple process, in theory: Have someone from the floor propose adding the new language, then let the delegates approve it via a voice vote. The result? A trainwreck so awful that even Paul Begala didn’t try to spin it.

As you’ll see, Villaraigosa’s astonishment that there are so many nays is palpable, and pure gold. Reporters were taken aback too:

As were some delegates:

To my ear it’s hard to tell which side had the better of it, but a few people on the scene said there was little doubt:

Mollie Hemingway’s right that the boos at the end are ambiguous. Some people might be booing the language added to the platform, others are likely booing the procedural sham by which Villaraigosa railroaded this through even though there obviously wasn’t two-thirds support for the amendment. (John Boehner and the RNC railroaded their own delegates just last week.) The takeaway, though, for attack-ad purposes isn’t the boos but the degree of opposition to adding the language in the first place. In a few years, they’ll quietly omit it without a second thought. Be who you are, guys.

Update: Let the damage control begin:

That’s the second time in 24 hours that Obama’s been forced to disclaim responsibility for some terribly counterproductive messaging at the convention. Weird how the rank-and-file have these crazy ideas that he in no way shares, isn’t it?

Update: Noah Pollak asks a good question:

July 2012:

Update: Via DrewM, I’m amazed to see that the left’s biggest site apparently is going all-in on the side of the nays. The banner headline at HuffPo tonight:

Update: Politico’s Dylan Byers is watching the cable nets for reaction. As of 7:05 ET:

In today’s edition of “choose your own adventure” news, the amount of times the word “Jerusalem” was mentioned on each channel between 12 p.m. and 7 p.m. today:

Fox News: 33 times

CNN: 16 times

MSNBC: 0 times

Update: Byers updates to say that MSNBC finally got around to mentioning the Jerusalem language in the Democrats’ platform in the 7 p.m. hour tonight.


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Happy Birthday, AP! I should have guessed you were a Virgo. One can usually spot another.

Fallon on September 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

The minister at 3:11 is probably thinking – “I need to get the hell out of here and
switch over to the Republicans – Jesus help me!!”

redguy on September 5, 2012 at 6:53 PM

If he was at the Democrat Marxist National Convention then he damned sure doesn’t actually believe in God, it’s just a paying gig to him.

SWalker on September 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

The nos and boos were more from the Jew-haters than from the God-haters. IMHO.

Paul-Cincy on September 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

This entire imbroglio and the devastating video will allow Team Romney to run against all Dems and not just Obama. The ads write themselves, for swing states with a large Jewish population, read Florida at a minimum, and the ones with large black evangelical populations.

TXUS on September 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

blink on September 5, 2012 at 6:45 PM

You are a freakin idiot. First you try and cite Obama as an example of sound judgement. LOL! Then you point out that the US has embassies in foreign capitols. No shit, pal. That doesn’t mean that their recognition is an official written statement in the platforms of political parties. In fact its not. The US recognizes Jerusalem as Israel capital, just like it does Abuja or Santiago, it does not need to be in party platiforms except as a weakass pander (that backfired) to evangelicals.

Daikokuco on September 5, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Happy Birthday Allahpundit!

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♪♫♫♪♫ May you drink a hundred beers ♫♪♫♫♪
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♪♫♫♪♫ Happy birthday to you! ♫♪♫♫♪

IrishEi on September 5, 2012 at 6:57 PM

darwin on September 5, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Why, thank you, Darwin.

davidk on September 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM

HA commentators talking about Hitchens has always been a case in failure.

budfox on September 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM

No, more an exercise in selectivememory, intellctual honesty and rigour. Instead of just hanging on to a bit of Hitchens you agree with, step back and look at the body of his works in their entirety.
He particulary upbraided hypocrites so well because he himself was one. One of the biggest, from his earliest Marxist poses on down thru the years.

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Or, did he?

Aw, c’mon. Next, you’re gonna tell me they didn’t move his speech to a smaller place because of the weather. Wha?

Fallon on September 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 6:48 PM

BS, raya.

That was a discussion about the Bush Admin being the first to recognize a Palestinian state.

Anti-Zionist means “get rid of Israel”, not “disagree with Israel”.

Was he pro-Palestinian? Yes, always in some degree. It lessened over the decades as he came to learn that the PLO was a willing proxy.

budfox on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Happy Birthday, AP! I should have guessed you were a Virgo. One can usually spot another.

Fallon on September 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

But that doesn’t mean that you’re also a Candy-Assed RINO, does it? Never took you for one, that’s for sure.

TXUS on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

The Democrat establishment commits voter fraud and then the activist base boos God and Israel – all in the span of one minute.

These guys are good.

forest on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Christian: Someone who selectively believes only certain passages of their so-called holy book and abhors and despisies those who believe only certain other parts. Hope that helps.

Daikokuco on September 5, 2012 at 6:48 PM

You are misinformed in your opinion. It would be beneficial if you actually read the Bible to understand the definition of the word Christian for starters.

bluefox on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

GreenBlade on September 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

If I were a reporter at that convention I’d walk on glass to get a statement from her.

scalleywag on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Let’s see…They boo God and they cheer for abortion. Makes you think

steel guy on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz denies that the vote seen and heard on this video ever took place.

GreenBlade on September 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Yeah, a case of mass delusion :)…

jimver on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

How many of the Democratic party faithful and donors had to call and complain or express dismay before ‘Obama’ decided that the language had to be returned, and God and Israel had to remain part of the Democratic party platform?

Weird how the rank-and-file have these crazy ideas that he in no way shares, isn’t it?

thatsafactjack on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

If only Hillary were President.

tom0508 on September 5, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Uh, no.

You forget that she’s cut from the same cloth as Obama, except for two notable differences. She apparently thought it a good idea to write her thesis about Saul Alinsky. I don’t doubt she’d be putting his rubrics into practice if she were in the White House now.

I can’t stand her or her hubby. Unfortunately, they are as hard to get rid of as a staph infection.

PatriotGal2257 on September 5, 2012 at 6:53 PM

‘Stalin in a pantsuit’

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Why even asked if Obozo pushed for the reinstatement? Even if Carney or Obozo himself said he did, it wouldn’t mean it was true. They are both serial liars. Not up to the Clintons in technique and smooth delivery, but completely unconcerned about the truth of anything, so how do you believe anything they say? Short answer, do not.

Webrider on September 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Because the concept of Jerusalem as the capital of our ally Israel is hotly contested by both her enemies and ours. An affirmation of its status is an affirmation of the strength of that alliance.

Dirt McGirt on September 5, 2012 at 6:20 PM

That doesn’t answer my question at all. I’ll repeat: Why should another country or city be mentioned in any political party’s platform?

Dante on September 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Gosh, booing God, no wonder they moved it away from those lightning bolts….

Don L on September 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

You are misinformed in your opinion. It would be beneficial if you actually read the Bible to understand the definition of the word Christian for starters.

bluefox on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

You’re asking too much, my friend. This one and Sauerkraut would rather just hate.

Pitiful.

kingsjester on September 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Yeah, well, the Paulbots had a lot to do with that..their flagrant cheating made it almost inevitable…but this is not the same thing. This is God and Israel in the platform. It is a bigger deal. It really is…because it could impact people outside the party base. This does not look good..rules changes just do not pack the same kind of punch.

Terrye on September 5, 2012 at 6:49 PM

You could not be more wrong.

This was about language that would just be ignored anyway.

Priebus stole the right to vote by the Tea Party for this Convention and every Convention in the future. He is now Dictator and he can set rules with no vote at all. He can also replace any delegate with one more to his liking. That is the complete end of representative Democracy within the GOP.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:02 PM

I didn’t look it up coz he’s not my guru or someone I admire in any way, and I based my opinion on the fact that he was all rah-rah about the war on terror and quite the anti-islamist that you’d think that someone could not hold two contrary positions at the same time…but hey, it’s Hitchens we are talking about, consistency wasn’t his forte…

jimver on September 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM

No need to justify. Just take nothing for granted / at face value. Particularly in this digital era, when it’s so easy to research.

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:02 PM

That doesn’t answer my question at all. I’ll repeat: Why should another country or city be mentioned in any political party’s platform?

Dante on September 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM

That’s what Fauther Coughlin said.

kingsjester on September 5, 2012 at 7:02 PM

PBHO to the naysayers

– Just wait ’till after the convention. I’ll have more flexibility.

LtGenRob on September 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Amazing Priebus did the same thing for Romney.

But every one here ignored that.

Now when the DNC does it for Obama everyone talks about how wrong it was.

Wake up. Romney did it first.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Are you really that sort of stupid equivalence-seeker?

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM

The nos and boos were more from the Jew-haters than from the God-haters. IMHO.

Paul-Cincy on September 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

This is true.

Terrye on September 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM

God does indeed work in mysterious ways.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Please cue AFP or other SuperPAC.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you….

FerdtheMoonCat on September 5, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Yep. I gotta go with, thank you too.
I’m an Ohio Methodist and have met Ted Strickland in person. I’m disillusioned by the Church’s leftist upper echelons like James Winkler. Like labor unions, they take the membership’s money, and turn around and give it to The Joyce Foundation. But I digress.

This footage is compelling stuff for anyone who cares about faith in God.

Buck Turgidson on September 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM

The Democrat establishment commits voter fraud and then the activist base boos God and Israel – all in the span of one minute.

These guys are good.

forest on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

… +7%!

Seven Percent Solution on September 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Even Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd are being forced to address this on MSNBC. Of course, they are saying that Obama divinely intervened on behalf of God.

steebo77 on September 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Amazing Priebus did the same thing for Romney.

But every one here ignored that.

Now when the DNC does it for Obama everyone talks about how wrong it was.

Wake up. Romney did it first.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Are you really that sort of stupid equivalence-seeker?

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Yes, he is.

Terrye on September 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM

I didn’t look it up coz he’s not my guru or someone I admire in any way, and I based my opinion on the fact that he was all rah-rah about the war on terror and quite the anti-islamist that you’d think that someone could not hold two contrary positions at the same time…but hey, it’s Hitchens we are talking about, consistency wasn’t his forte…

jimver on September 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM

No need to justify. Just take nothing for granted / at face value. Particularly in this digital era, when it’s so easy to research.

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Why do we waste so much space talking about a man who is said to be brilliant but spent his life fighting the very God he claims doesn’t exist? Frankly Biden makes more sense than that.

Don L on September 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM

I don’t think any of us – even those of us who think we understand the long-term impact of what just happened – actually no how MAJOR this event is.

THIS.IS.HUGE!

nitzsche on September 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM

No, more an exercise in selectivememory, intellctual honesty and rigour. Instead of just hanging on to a bit of Hitchens you agree with, step back and look at the body of his works in their entirety.
He particulary upbraided hypocrites so well because he himself was one. One of the biggest, from his earliest Marxist poses on down thru the years.

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM

I know the guy’s work better than you ever will. I use to trade email with him on a regular basis.

The fact that you think that about him shows you’re the one not familiar.

budfox on September 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM

As PaPa used to say, “Those people would fu*k up a wet dream, wouldn’t they?”….

hillsoftx on September 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM

good god MSNBC is spinning the hell out of this for Obama….unreal. That Obama intervened is complete hogwash…he caved. Hannity had a clip with someone saying that this followed the administration requests. This needs to go BIG

lostinjrz on September 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Was the Governor of Ohio chosen to bring the motion or is he the only “Platform Committee” member allowed to bring a motion to the floor? If he was the chosen person then that is another indication that this vote was rigged from the get go! How bad do Democrats want Ohio?

fbcmusicman on September 5, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Happy Birthday AP

workingclass artist on September 5, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Christian: Someone who selectively believes only certain passages of their so-called holy book and abhors and despisies those who believe only certain other parts. Hope that helps.

Daikokuco on September 5, 2012 at 6:48 PM

You know, before you denigrate the beliefs of others, it would behoove you to maybe research what those beliefs are; keeps you from looking like a darned fool.

AZfederalist on September 5, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Hitch was big-time anti-Israel.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Hitch was very vocal as an anti-Zionist but he was not anti-semitic. Being Jewish yourself, do you think those positions can or cannot co-exist?

bayview on September 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 6:48 PM
BS, raya.

That was a discussion about the Bush Admin being the first to recognize a Palestinian state.

Anti-Zionist means “get rid of Israel”, not “disagree with Israel”.

Was he pro-Palestinian? Yes, always in some degree. It lessened over the decades as he came to learn that the PLO was a willing proxy.

budfox on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Well a double BS on you! wth is the difference between being pro-Pali and anti-Israel? And every damned ‘anti-zionist’ group calls for the destruction of the Jewish state. So you can pretend to any distorted definition you want, the real-world proofs make the definition quite clear. From Neturei Karta to Hamas to the Iranian mullahs, they all want the state of Israel destroyed.

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:10 PM

I wonder how many pinnocchios the vote will get?

mattshu on September 5, 2012 at 7:10 PM

As you’ll see, Villaraigosa’s astonishment that there are so many nays is palpable, and pure gold.

As I’ve said before, I don’t think that guy is smart enough to avoid drowning in shower. What a clown.

peski on September 5, 2012 at 7:11 PM

I wonder how many pinnocchios the vote will get?

mattshu on September 5, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Well, given that the so-called fact checkers are now at the point of revealing that they are in the tank, this will get at worst a “mostly true” rating.

AZfederalist on September 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Happy birthday Allahpundit. What will it take for you to tweet about something again? lol

CitizenEgg on September 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

bluefox on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

You’re asking too much, my friend. This one and Sauerkraut would rather just hate.

Pitiful.

kingsjester on September 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Could be. As you know there is a time to speak and a time to be silent:-) For those that may believe what he said is the reason I spoke. I already knew he didn’t know what he was talking about:-)

Thanks for the FYI tho:-)

bluefox on September 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

AWESOME…….Queen Amidala will introduce Emperor Palpatine!!!!

……with thunderous applause?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFMaXM-P0E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

PappyD61 on September 5, 2012 at 6:52 PM

If Natalie Portman were to introduce Obama it would be the irony of ironies.

INC on September 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Sadly, this video does show where the Demoicratic Party is headed in future years. Sad and scary.

GreenBlade on September 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Let’s see…They boo God and they cheer for abortion. Makes you think

steel guy on September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Party of Death. Defends Abortion and pardons cop-killers. Pain-pills for grandma. To Obama’s ‘I don’t want my daughters punished by a baby’ and his advocacy of 4th trimester [sic] infanticide.

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

That doesn’t answer my question at all. I’ll repeat: Why should another country or city be mentioned in any political party’s platform?

Dante on September 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM

I’d say it answers it straight-on. No one ever contests or debates the capital city of any other nation, AFAIK. Israel is a topic of debate that affects the way people vote, thus it is a political issue.

What isn’t to “get” about this?

Dirt McGirt on September 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

When you’ve lost HuffPo…..

gophergirl on September 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Are you really that sort of stupid equivalence-seeker?

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Yes, he is.

Terrye on September 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM

I did not say it was the same.

I explained in detail why what Romney/Priebus did was far far worse.

Romney is Obama in all but name only.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM

lostinjrz on September 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Like everything else about this convention and campaign, it’s making Obama look like a loser.

You’re owned by the government. More people watched Ann Romney than Michelle Obama. Moving the acceptance speech to a smaller venue. Changing the platform and having people boo god and Israel.

And it looks like tomorrow they won’t have any balloons dropping–they planned on outdoor fireworks and now don’t have the time to arrange a balloon drop. Apparently they won’t have room for the band either inside.

All this makes Obama look like a loser. People won’t vote for a loser.

PetecminMd on September 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Those folks certainly appear “organized”, don’t they?

GarandFan on September 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Party of Death. Defends Abortion and pardons cop-killers. Pain-pills for grandma. To Obama’s ‘I don’t want my daughters punished by a baby’ and his advocacy of 4th trimester [sic] infanticide.

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Hey I disagree with them but one thing.

At least they are honest about who they are and what they are about.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

I’m still trying to figure out whose bright idea it was to take it out of the platform in the first place. Has that been discovered yet? How can you recover from an angry mob at a convention booing God and the capital city of one of our allies? And their lefty beacon blasting the decision to put it back in? FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!

scalleywag on September 5, 2012 at 7:16 PM

That’s what happens when you have an idiot who changed his name to sound like he’s latino & failed the bar 4 FREAKING TIMES as the Chair of your convention.

mattshu on September 5, 2012 at 7:16 PM

That doesn’t answer my question at all. I’ll repeat: Why should another country or city be mentioned in any political party’s platform?

Dante on September 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM

And THIS clown, one repeated dissembling diversion attempt after another.
It’s called a ‘platform’ for a reason, you moron. The ‘planks’ of which state various party policy positions, thereby seeking to both define and garner a broader base of support for their party. So such a thing makes things like positions towards foreign nations and religious positions highly relevant.
Now, were you too stupid to know that, or are you just being so deliberately dishonest to ignore that in the hopes of diverting / deconstructing the thrust of the discussion, as part of your paid political hackery?

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Jay Carney: Are there any Paraguayans here?

Vyceloch on September 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Harry Reid wishes he could pull that kind of shennanigans while holding votes in the Senate.

portlandon on September 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Forgot to mention, he’s also someone who suffers from a Clintonian pants zipper issue.

mattshu on September 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM

But I note they have still the gun bans in the platform the AW Ban and magazine bans.

tarpon on September 5, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Lordy, but these are creepy, sad people. I’d like to hear what 99% of them have to say on their deathbeds.

BettyRuth on September 5, 2012 at 7:19 PM

O HAPPY DAY just for you Allahpundit.

DrStock on September 5, 2012 at 7:19 PM

I never really got it about the wolf in sheeps clothing.

Now I do.

Romney.

Republicans are the stupid sheep following Romney off the cliff so we can all be eaten by the rest of the DNC wolves.

Folks this can not end well.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

This is pure stupidity because it’s dead wrong.

The US does NOT recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Pro Tip: Think first. Type second.

blink on September 5, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Wrong. Though “technically” Jerusalem’s status is “unclear”, under law for decades American presidents must affirm every 6 months that Jerusalem is seen by the US as Israel’s capital. Obama has upheld this “tradition”.

So STFU, fool.

Daikokuco on September 5, 2012 at 7:21 PM

If only Hillary were President.

tom0508 on September 5, 2012 at 6:47 PM

What are her “qualifications”?

tom0507 was much funnier.

Del Dolemonte on September 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Listen to the 1st request rule suspension–easy to discern 2/3 vote. Then compare it to the next two, not even close–it was 50/50 at best. The fact he had to ask THREE TIMES is the reason you see the OH SH*T moment on the chair’ face and is typical of the Dems, no fall back policy other than “Hey, let’s fake it and make up shite”.

hillsoftx on September 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM

A Democratic source emails: ” The President personally interveaned to strengthen the language. “

Does anybody think this was really Obama’s idea?

Personally, I doubt it strongly. I think his political handlers saw that their little secret was out and was a public relations disaster. After that, I suspect they had a quick strategy meeting and decided to put it back in. Obama, of course, would agree, since his credo is “By any means necessary.”

The only problem was, the rank and file refused to cooperate, and it turned into a worse public relations disaster.

Gotta love it.

hachiban on September 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Those of us that were interested know what the Rule Changes by Romney/RNC/Boehner was all about. You are correct in what they did and the results of it. What can be done now, I don’t know.

However, Romney was my last choice in the Primaries and now he is my only choice. It is all about the survival of this Nation, Steve.

If Romney does not win this election, then your opinion of Romney nor his record doesn’t matter; nor does mine.

bluefox on September 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM

’d say it answers it straight-on. No one ever contests or debates the capital city of any other nation, AFAIK. Israel is a topic of debate that affects the way people vote, thus it is a political issue.

What isn’t to “get” about this?

Dirt McGirt on September 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

It doesn’t even begin to address the question. The affairs of other nations and their geopolitical disputes are no business of ours at all.

Why should another country or city be mentioned in any political party’s platform?

Dante on September 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM

‘Stalin in a pantsuit’

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM

+1,000!

Absolutely perfect summary!!

PatriotGal2257 on September 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Please just go away.

gophergirl on September 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Update: Noah Pollak asks a good question:

How can Obama have “intervened” to recognize Jerusalem in DNC platform when policy of his administration is against recognition?

— Noah Pollak (@NoahPollak) September 5, 2012

As I said a few minutes ago, some consultant told them to do this.

INC on September 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

mattshu on September 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

I know the guy’s work better than you ever will. I use to trade email with him on a regular basis.

The fact that you think that about him shows you’re the one not familiar.

budfox on September 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM

You do realize don’t you how stupid your anecdotal ‘testimony’ is, when we’ve had literally decades of hearing and reading his own words? He changed his positions / sides quite often. Call it ‘evolving’ or any other explanatory wishing into the cornfield. He contradicted himself over his own life just as much as he contradicted others.
Even HE recognized that. HE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT IT –
http://www.amazon.ca/Hitch-22-Confessions-Contradictions-Christopher-Hitchens/dp/0771041101

Now you and all the rest of you Hitchens defenders / apologists STFU! How many more times do I have to show you are wrong? Hitchens himself would be excoriating your asses.
/ y’all are worse than Paulbots

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

I am appalled at the withdrawl of support for Israel, and it wasn’t enough to put it back in… this is a sign of very bad things to come if Obama is re-elected. Very bad things.

But I read the way they took out “God” and it was no big deal. They said “God-given rights and changed it to something like “natural rights”… I dont’ even get what the fuss is about over that… maybe there was more that I missed.

However, they have a whole section of “faith” and “faith-based” organizations and the appropriateness of them and need for them… I think at most they should have just put an astrek somewhere and said, “For information about God see section of Faith Based Organizaions”

But they took the bait and they look bad. So that is great!!! I do think we won this and should not over play our hand on it… someone might figure out that it is not as big a deal as Fox is making it sound.

But usually I see Republicans jumping through Democrat hoops and scratch my head in confusion at why the Party or Candidate didn’t see that one coming and have an answer ready…

So it is very fun to see the shoe on the other foot.

That vote was definiely “no”. Hahahahha.

petunia on September 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM

FOAD already, okay Steve.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

So, between God being removed from the platform, abortion-palooza, and the First Lady’s War on Sweets, the Democrats have officially established themselves as the party against God, motherhood, and apple pie.

Wow.

Next thing you know, they’ll be booing Boy Scouts when they bring out the flag for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Oh, wait.

JimLennon on September 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

So, in other words, you had a come to Obama moment?

mattshu on September 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Give us Barabbas!!!!

FusDoRah on September 5, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Best. Comment. Evah!

GrannyDee on September 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Republicans are the stupid sheep following Romney off the cliff so we can all be eaten by the rest of the DNC wolves.

Folks this can not end well.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Yeah, but if we follow the big bad Romney off the cliff we will be goners anyway so what do we care if the wolves eat us?

Right? I mean that was sort of confusing.

Besides, you said you were not going to vote so what the hell do you care?

Terrye on September 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

The nos and boos were more from the Jew-haters than from the God-haters. IMHO.

A distinction without a difference, IMHO.

bobcalco on September 5, 2012 at 7:30 PM

♫♪♫♫♪ May you live a hundred years ♪♫♫♪♫
♪♫♫♪♫ May you drink a hundred beers ♫♪♫♫♪
♫♪♫♫♪ Get plastered, you ba$tard ♪♫♫♪♫
♪♫♫♪♫ Happy birthday to you! ♫♪♫♫♪

IrishEi on September 5, 2012 at 6:57 PM


Hear! Hear! Happy Birthday, AP!

You may be an Eeyore, but you are OUR 40 year old Eeyore!

Don’t worry – the teasing will be much worse as the years go by!

Trust me, I know. ;)

P.S. … and you can always remind ALT she is 2 years older than you.

PolAgnostic on September 5, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Hitch was very vocal as an anti-Zionist but he was not anti-semitic. Being Jewish yourself, do you think those positions can or cannot co-exist?

bayview on September 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Nobody said anything about antisemitism until you just interjected that strawman. The irony is that Hitchens himself was of jewish descent and that he’d found out well after he’d weighed in as a marxist and opponent of the Jewish State.

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Please just go away.

gophergirl on September 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM

If only.

Terrye on September 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

So, between God being removed from the platform, abortion-palooza, and the First Lady’s War on Sweets, the Democrats have officially established themselves as the party against God, motherhood, and apple pie.

Wow.

Next thing you know, they’ll be booing Boy Scouts when they bring out the flag for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Oh, wait.

JimLennon on September 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

IMHO this is the comment of the campaign.

Democrats: Against God, Motherhood & Apple Pie

Take out the Against and put a slashed circle over the phrase and it will work as a bumper sticker.

INC on September 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

OT: Fed judge votes FOR Arizona statute !

pambi on September 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Scoamf sort of describes the entire Democrap agenda and it’s particularly evident at this Convention.

JimK on September 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

‘Stalin in a pantsuit’

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM

+1,000!

Absolutely perfect summary!!

PatriotGal2257 on September 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM

That’s a decades-old nickname for her. I think Rush originated it, during her quest for Hillarycare.

I gotta get back to cabinet-building.

rayra on September 5, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Now I’ve seen everything. I just wandered over to MSDNC (I know, what was I thinking?!) and that Melissa Harris-Perry chick was on air wearing a button that says “uterus.” I guess the Dems are handing them out at the convention. Lovely.

rcpjr on September 5, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Now I’ve seen everything. I just wandered over to MSDNC (I know, what was I thinking?!) and that Melissa Harris-Perry chick was on air wearing a button that says “uterus.” I guess the Dems are handing them out at the convention. Lovely.

rcpjr on September 5, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Ewwww

gophergirl on September 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM

So, between God being removed from the platform, abortion-palooza, and the First Lady’s War on Sweets, the Democrats have officially established themselves as the party against God, motherhood, and apple pie.

Wow.

Next thing you know, they’ll be booing Boy Scouts when they bring out the flag for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Oh, wait.

JimLennon on September 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

W-I-N-N-E-R.

mattshu on September 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM

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