“Better off”: America slips ranks in global economic competitiveness

posted at 3:21 pm on September 5, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

In regards to Team Obama’s recent suggestions that Americans are indeed better off today than they were four years ago, ‘by every measure’… you’ll forgive me for not being rapturously convinced of their validity. As we’ve already covered, I’m not sure what metrics they’re thinking of, because by every available measure I can come up with, we’re definitively worse off than we were four years ago: Median incomes, long-term unemployment, poverty rates, and etcetera. But in addendum to Ed’s post from earlier, here’s yet another indicator of how far our fortunes have fallen since electing President Obama into office. …This one, my friends, is a dagger straight to my heart not quite like any other. Via the WSJ:

Northern European countries topped the overall ranking of a global competitiveness report released Wednesday by the World Economic Forum, as the United States slipped for the fourth year in a row.

“In addition to the burgeoning macroeconomic vulnerabilities, some aspects of the country’s [United States] institutional environment continue to raise concern among business leaders, particularly the low public trust in politicians and a perceived lack of government efficiency,” said the WEF, a think tank that also hosts the annual meeting of global business and political leaders in the Alpine town of Davos, Switzerland.

This year’s survey showed the U.S. fell to seventh position from fifth in the global ranking but the country remains an innovation powerhouse and its markets work efficiently, the WEF said.

Ouch. So let’s just get this straight — there’s nothing wrong with Americans’ know-how, ingenuity, entrepreneurial drive, or desire to work hard and make big things happen in a free-market setting, but it’s our gigantically inefficient federal bureaucracy and our monstrous debt problem that’s gumming up the works? America is supposed to be the freest, most hard-charging, go-gettin’, exceptional country on earth, and I love that other countries are following in our stead and finding ways to unleash the power of free enterprise, but it’s only due to our own self-imposed folly that we’re no longer leading the world in economic badassery. What excuse to we have for allowing that to happen? Because we’re so enamored of expensive entitlement programs, regulatory oversight, adverse-incentivizing taxes, and spending money we don’t have, that we just can’t get our act together? It’s a damn shame, and it could have been avoided. Everything about President Obama’s agenda (higher taxes on higher earners, Dodd-Frank, ObamaCare, EPA regulatory expansion, etcetera) has only worsened the “institutional environment” that’s dragging us down. Time for something new, don’t you think?


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Beaten by EUROPE?

Chuck Schick on September 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM

I’m not sure what metrics they’re thinking of,

Marxism has moved forward, Comrade.

faraway on September 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM

I coulda been a contenda.

tomg51 on September 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Didn’t O say something last week that he refuses to let some outside group tell him America’s standing, or something along those lines?

Liam on September 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Four more years! Four more years! /

changer1701 on September 5, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Obviously this can only mean that we need northern European levels of taxation to regain our competitive edge. Even the WSJ says so. Anything less would be racist.

abobo on September 5, 2012 at 3:26 PM

How far we’ve fallen! We’ve got to eliminate HHS and Obamacare, Education Dept, EPA, and get the Democrats out of office before it’s too late if it’s not already too late.

Christian Conservative on September 5, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Wait til the fact-checkers get hold of this one, we’ll be the most competitive country EVER! Or we would be, if it weren’t for those meddling Republicans!

10 pinnochios and 17 liar liar pants on fire.

NoDonkey on September 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM

I like to bash Barack Obama as much as the next guy, but I can’t take this report too seriously. Look who wrote it. We probably got knocked down a few pegs because we don’t take global climate change seriously enough, or because Obamacare isn’t single payer.

Mr. Arkadin on September 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Slip sliding away
You know the nearer your destination
The more you’re slip sliding away

Rio Linda Refugee on September 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Just another Downgrade.

Chip on September 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM

This is part and parcel with Obama’s desire to make the U.S. “just another nation”.

Bitter Clinger on September 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Greece and Spain will be laughing at us if the democrats get their way.

Nobody celebrates failure like democrats.

Baxter Greene on September 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM

DNC Delegates Can’t Name Any Business Obama Worked For
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/tough-question-dnc-delegates-cant-name-a-business-obama-ever-worked-for/

Chip on September 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM

How the heck is this race still a virtual tie? Obama has been an absolute disaster.

If he isn’t stopped he will wield EO’s like tyrannical diktats. He will completely ignore Congress and rule via the bureaucracy. And the gutless GOP won’t do anything to stop him. I just hope we have a bunch of governors who are willing to defy Obama.

I believe that if Obama is reelected it will mark the beginning of the end of the US as a nation of 50 states and mark the beginning of a move to split the country in half.

I refuse to believe that we conservatives will surrender, allow ourselves to become part of the collective, to become hosts to the Democrats’ parasitic voters, to submit to be ruled.

The Left is nothing if not relentless in their goal to “own” us. We must be as ruthless and relentless in our desire to remain free.

Charlemagne on September 5, 2012 at 3:33 PM

This is the fundamental transformation that Barack Insane Obama Promised America.

SWalker on September 5, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Don’t pay attention to the polls. Although voter stupidity is at an all-time high, they are oversampling Democrats by 3 to 5 points than they need to in virtually all the polls.

Republican voter registration right now beats Democrats voter registration by almost a million in the swing states. There is also a huge enthusiasm gap in our favor.

3/4 of the people that normally would not vote that voted for Obama last time are staying home this time around. They just don’t care.

Romney will have a HUGE cash advantage from here on to election day. Once it is clear he is winning, all the money will start getting behind him. His campaign knows how to spend it too. They destroyed Perry and Gingrich in the primaries, remember?

This election will be won by 6 points or more. We’ll take all the swing states and Wisconsin, Minnesota and Pennsylvania. We may even get lucky and take Michigan. If that happens, Obama will concede before 10 P.M.

It’s the economy, stupid.

Corporal Tunnel on September 5, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I like to bash Barack Obama as much as the next guy, but I can’t take this report too seriously. Look who wrote it. We probably got knocked down a few pegs because we don’t take global climate change seriously enough, or because Obamacare isn’t single payer.

Mr. Arkadin on September 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM

You’re probably right. I hear/read liblets all the time saying we rank low on charts for our lack of single-payer and the amount of GDP we spend on education.

And that our military is too big, and etc.

I hold little credence in the report itself. But it comes at an opportune time, where the Republicans can use it if they finally develop a spine and grow a set.

Liam on September 5, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Guaranteed the dems will get a bounce from this convention. It may not be real, but the pollsters will manufacture one for them.

Wigglesworth on September 5, 2012 at 3:36 PM

My heart aches so much on this and other news bho has done to my beloved country.

I can not begin to express how much I detest bho and what he has and wants to do to the US! bho can not be re-elected, he just can’t!

God please help us, You are the only one Who will help people open their eyes as to what is happening.
L

letget on September 5, 2012 at 3:36 PM

“economic badassery”

I like that term!

JimLennon on September 5, 2012 at 3:37 PM

We just can’t let him be bullied out of office when he gets fewer electoral votes than Romney. His work is not yet finished.

a capella on September 5, 2012 at 3:37 PM

This election will be won by 6 points or more. We’ll take all the swing states and Wisconsin, Minnesota and Pennsylvania. We may even get lucky and take Michigan. If that happens, Obama will concede before 10 P.M.

It’s the economy, stupid.

Corporal Tunnel on September 5, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Why do I get the feeling that even if Romney were to win 538-0, Obama still wouldn’t concede?

Bitter Clinger on September 5, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Obama’s plan is working.

darwin on September 5, 2012 at 3:43 PM

So let’s just get this straight — there’s nothing wrong with Americans’ know-how, ingenuity, entrepreneurial drive, or desire to work hard and make big things happen in a free-market setting, but it’s our gigantically inefficient federal bureaucracy and our monstrous debt problem that’s gumming up the works?

…this will all be covered extensively over the next two days in North Carolina…and of course…by the media.

Everything about President Obama’s agenda (higher taxes on higher earners, Dodd-Frank, ObamaCare, EPA regulatory expansion, etcetera) has only worsened the “institutional environment” that’s dragging us down.

…speech after speech…after speech ignoring our inefficient bureaucracy’s…will make the media swoon!

KOOLAID2 on September 5, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Chip on September 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM

LOL. That clip is priceless.

d1carter on September 5, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Don’t miss the ever-brilliant Sowell on little Bammie’s closed mind: Obama’s Dreams

“Barack Obama is one of those people who are often wrong but never in doubt. When he burst upon the national political scene as a presidential candidate in 2008, even some conservatives were impressed by his confidence.

But confident ignorance is one of the most dangerous qualities in a leader of a nation. If he has the rhetorical skills to inspire the same confidence in himself by others, then you have the ingredients for national disaster.”

slickwillie2001 on September 5, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Why do I get the feeling that even if Romney were to win 538-0, Obama still wouldn’t concede?

Bitter Clinger on September 5, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Maybe I’m being too cynical, but the 101st Airborne is charged to protect Washington and they might need to be called in to send Obama back to Chicago.

Oops! Apologies for using the racist term ‘Chicago’!

Liam on September 5, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Keep voting democrat!

Straight ticket!

tom daschle concerned on September 5, 2012 at 3:46 PM

That would be because many other countries have made about faces on socialism and cradle to grave safety nets and actually gone from multiple progressive party rule to an opposed conservative government party as the leaders.

Here in the United States of America… we have decided to ditch the conservative party and make it progressive liberal light. Obama did not start the slide, it began in 2008 or even before. All Obama did was take Bush’s precedents and use them to continue the slide. Romney has not given any policy proposals that will turn the nation around. Instead, all he plans to do is slow the government down a little bit, starting between 3 and 8 presidencies after he is out of office.

In ohter words, Romney will change nothing, well, except the core ideology of the republican party that is, and reverse the decline in the Democratic party by making them acceptable alternatives again. Whiplash democracy is not going to solve our competitiveness issues.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 3:47 PM

There’s an old democrat adage:
When life hands you lemons, make a shit sandwhich.

Bevan on September 5, 2012 at 3:52 PM

What the Obamaphants are screeching for is that they need…

ANOTHER 2 yrs or 4, of a Super Majority in Congress so they can finally stop blaming the Minority party for all their incompetence.

Geez.

FlaMurph on September 5, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Keep voting democrat!

Straight Pro-gay ticket!

tom daschle concerned on September 5, 2012 at 3:46 PM

FIFY–Democrat priorities, and all.

Liam on September 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM

In the movie Mean Streets the character Johnny Boy (Robert DiNiro) goes around the neighborhood borrowing money from anyone foolish enough to lend it to him. Eventually, almost all the lenders catch on: Johnny Boy is a bad credit risk.

Eventually, the last loan shark calls in his chit, with unfortunate results.

I honestly believe this is the Donks economic plan.

Here’s the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag9zbMV5URM

(4 minutes. Contains street language)

Bruno Strozek on September 5, 2012 at 4:04 PM

I’d point out that those ‘northern European countries’ ALSO have massive entitlement programs.

The difference is the massive DEBT that we’ve run up, particularly over the past 4 years, and the ‘perceived lack of government efficiency’ and the ‘low trust in public politicians’.

In other words, we need to elect some EFFICIENT politicians who can run a nation effectively, increase productivity, have a will to pay OFF the deficit and pay down the debt.

I’d also point out that the tax rate in those ‘northern European countries’ is astronomical. The people, including the women who put off child bearing in order to concentrate on their careers resulting in a birthrate well below replacement levels, sacrifice their personal lives to be as productive as they have been.

GERMANY is a ‘northern European’ country.

Because of their membership in the EU, Germans are being asked to shoulder the burden of the debt of the other, less productive, European nations… like GREECE, Portugal, Ireland, and even Spain. Italy and France are teetering on the brink.

The productivity cited in this report is fleeting. It cannot endure the stresses being placed on it by the catastrophe that is the EU.

thatsafactjack on September 5, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Because we’re the choomer drones are so enamored of expensive entitlement programs, regulatory oversight, adverse-incentivizing taxes, and spending money we don’t have

FIFY…

RedInMD on September 5, 2012 at 4:14 PM

How far we’ve fallen! We’ve got to eliminate HHS and Obamacare, Education Dept, EPA, and get the Democrats out of office before it’s too late if it’s not already too late.

Christian Conservative on September 5, 2012 at 3:28 PM

I would add the department of energy and agriculture to that list…

RedInMD on September 5, 2012 at 4:16 PM

How far we’ve fallen! We’ve got to eliminate HHS and Obamacare, Education Dept, EPA, and get the Democrats out of office before it’s too late if it’s not already too late.

Christian Conservative on September 5, 2012 at 3:28 PM

I would add the department of energy and agriculture to that list…

RedInMD on September 5, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Bureau of Indian Affairs

tom daschle concerned on September 5, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Registered republicans at an all time high (+4). The polls we are seeing now and near election day are going to be way off from the result on 11/6.

jazzmo on September 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM

I’d point out that those ‘northern European countries’ ALSO have massive entitlement programs.

The difference is the massive DEBT that we’ve run up, particularly over the past 4 years, and the ‘perceived lack of government efficiency’ and the ‘low trust in public politicians’.

In other words, we need to elect some EFFICIENT politicians who can run a nation effectively, increase productivity, have a will to pay OFF the deficit and pay down the debt.

I’d also point out that the tax rate in those ‘northern European countries’ is astronomical. The people, including the women who put off child bearing in order to concentrate on their careers resulting in a birthrate well below replacement levels, sacrifice their personal lives to be as productive as they have been.

GERMANY is a ‘northern European’ country.

Because of their membership in the EU, Germans are being asked to shoulder the burden of the debt of the other, less productive, European nations… like GREECE, Portugal, Ireland, and even Spain. Italy and France are teetering on the brink.

The productivity cited in this report is fleeting. It cannot endure the stresses being placed on it by the catastrophe that is the EU.

thatsafactjack on September 5, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Its an interesting paragraph. I like the pay down the debts part. Offer me that as a party platform and be serious about it and you can get my vote. So far the only thing I have seen is the Ryan Road Map that says he can foresee budget deficits going out past 2040 on a best case scenario. But when you get into the weeds you find out it cuts military spending by more than half (all discreninary spending is replaced with more socialism), just about the time that China will have a likely economy capable of outspending us on the military front. It also relies on savings from his Medicare plan, which honestly stands as much chance of remaining fiscally viable as the current plan. Anyone seriously think that the elderly voting block that gets bigger and bigger as a percentage of the voting population is not going to vote more money out of the pockets of others?

Run a country and make it more productive. Didn’t Mousilini do that in Itally? Hitler Germany? The Chinese today? I do not want a president running the economy. I want him protecting my rights and leaving the economy to entrepenuers.

We should be talking about a flat single rate no deductions period tax rate, a balanced budget requirement with a cap on potential expenditures lower than the long term ability to tax which is between 18 and 19% of the economy. There should be a Constitutional Amendment that sets a lower limit on how much we spend on the military. We should be talking those. We are no longer conservative, we are preservative.

Instead we are talking about saving the welfare state and putting the burden on future generations backs. At least you show fiscal conservative.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I do not want a president running the economy. I want him protecting my rights and leaving the economy to entrepenuers.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I agree…but it’s not fledgling entrepreneurs/small businessmen that are holding the nation’s (and the world’s) wealth hostage, so it won’t be them that turn it around.

I think there will be (modest) opportunities for the “little people” far into the future, but the major industries I’m afraid are closed to any “new blood”, or soon will be. I can’t envision any more Henry Fords, Richard Sears, Sam Waltons and the like coming along and making it big.

These major corporations have figured out how to become virtually immune from failure. Sure, they can go bankrupt, but the actual people that run them can jump ship (and take a hell of a lot of the company’s wealth with them) and go elsewhere. Or…they can get their cronies in government, the IMF, etc. to bail them out.

Don’t know why so many of us insist on being delusional about there really being such a thing as pure free enterprise still existing in the higher levels of wealth production.

We could have clones of Ronald Reagan on steroids filling both houses of Congress and it won’t make any difference. All we can do at this point is slow them down while we still can.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 4:41 PM

“Why don’t you just give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice on it?”
…will that be covered under OBOZOCARE / OBOZOTAX ?

TeaPartyNation on September 5, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Ouch. So let’s just get this straight — there’s nothing wrong with Americans’ know-how, ingenuity, entrepreneurial drive, or desire to work hard and make big things happen in a free-market setting, but it’s our gigantically inefficient federal bureaucracy

Northern European countries have even more intrusive government policies, more regulations, socialized healtchare systems, and generally larger bureaucracies. And far, far higher taxes despite their tiny military budgets relative to the US.

What the Europeans do have is far stronger commitment to higher education, investments that boost productivity, and spending on infrastructure.

And furthermore, the US is losing its advantage in innovation.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ciocentral/2011/01/20/danger-america-is-losing-its-edge-in-innovation/

I can’t envision any more Henry Fords, Richard Sears, Sam Waltons and the like coming along and making it big.

You can make the case that Elon Musk is living the dream through SpaceX and beating out all our overseas competitors in the race to low cost spaceflight.

But you can’t dream of the past… this economy is never returning to its manufacturing greatness of the past. Our future wealth will be driven by technology and innovation.

bayam on September 5, 2012 at 4:52 PM

You can make the case that Elon Musk is living the dream through SpaceX and beating out all our overseas competitors in the race to low cost spaceflight.

bayam on September 5, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Hmmm…maybe. But he’s filling a niche that I don’t think is directly filled by larger more established private companies, and I know he’s getting support from NASA. If the Morton-Thiokols and Raytheons weren’t interested, then that could mean either simply lack of interest on their part, or it could mean they missed a golden opportunity to thrive in a new market. Only time will tell.

But you can’t dream of the past… this economy is never returning to its manufacturing greatness of the past. Our future wealth will be driven by technology and innovation.

No, I’m not…that’s what I was saying. But my view of wealth is dependent upon real earth resources and reliable energy and if those aren’t plentiful then I don’t believe technology will be able to advance. The possibility of social disintegration is another factor.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 5:04 PM

America is supposed to be the freest, most hard-charging, go-gettin’, exceptional country on earth, and I love that other countries are following in our stead and finding ways to unleash the power of free enterprise, but it’s only due to our own self-imposed folly that we’re no longer leading the world in economic badassery. What excuse to we have for allowing that to happen? Because we’re so enamored of expensive entitlement programs, regulatory oversight, adverse-incentivizing taxes, and spending money we don’t have, that we just can’t get our act together? It’s a damn shame, and it could have been avoided.

All the ills you cite are magnified in northern Europe, the part of the world that’s surpassing the US in innovation and competitiveness. The ideology simply doesn’t fit reality.

Your claim that ‘self-imposed folly’ is the cause of the decline of manufacturing is incredibly naive. When the US opened its markets to China (a mistake now recognized by most of the US negotiators of the original agreement), it was woefully unprepared to compete with far lower per unit labor costs based on $1 hourly wage. No amount of regulatory reform or balanced budgets will reverse this challenge. The Europeans realized this reality long ago and transitioned to compete in a global economy where Asia is the growing into a manufacturing powerhouse.

Remember that the unemployment rate in the US digital economy is ZERO percent. In fact, the growth of the new economy is currently held back by a lack of qualified engineers, scientists, and other professionals. It’s time to think more about how to help people succeed in this high growth area of the economy rather than pretend that a few slight changes in government policy will enable the US to return to its manufacturing glory days.

bayam on September 5, 2012 at 5:07 PM

O/T Bob Beckel admits the Obama campaign should take resposibility for “Government is the only thing we all belong to”.

jazzmo on September 5, 2012 at 5:08 PM

We could have clones of Ronald Reagan on steroids filling both houses of Congress and it won’t make any difference. All we can do at this point is slow them down while we still can.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 4:41 PM

It is our failures then. Simply slowing them down is admiting that we do not want to own up to our own failures and pay the price sooner rather than make someone else pay the price later. I guess the whole concept of responsibility has gone out the window. Which is exactly why the concept of a little socialism won’t hurt things is such a BIG LIE. It hurts everything. The people retired or soon retiring caused all this problem, but instead of making them suffer the consequences, the only offering on the table is to make them immune from the consequences.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Hmmm…maybe. But he’s filling a niche that I don’t think is directly filled by larger more established private companies, and I know he’s getting support from NASA. If the Morton-Thiokols and Raytheons weren’t interested

True, and they weren’t ready to commit to Musk’s policy of no cost overruns passed back to the government. Or perhaps the established players were unwilling to rethink their practices from the ground up to reduce middle management and other costs.
Toyota or Honda entering the game would be a game changer.

bayam on September 5, 2012 at 5:16 PM

All the ills you cite are magnified in northern Europe, the part of the world that’s surpassing the US in innovation and competitiveness. The ideology simply doesn’t fit reality.

Your claim that ‘self-imposed folly’ is the cause of the decline of manufacturing is incredibly naive. When the US opened its markets to China (a mistake now recognized by most of the US negotiators of the original agreement), it was woefully unprepared to compete with far lower per unit labor costs based on $1 hourly wage. No amount of regulatory reform or balanced budgets will reverse this challenge. The Europeans realized this reality long ago and transitioned to compete in a global economy where Asia is the growing into a manufacturing powerhouse.

Remember that the unemployment rate in the US digital economy is ZERO percent. In fact, the growth of the new economy is currently held back by a lack of qualified engineers, scientists, and other professionals. It’s time to think more about how to help people succeed in this high growth area of the economy rather than pretend that a few slight changes in government policy will enable the US to return to its manufacturing glory days.

bayam on September 5, 2012 at 5:07 PM

One of the problems with your Northern Europe argument is that part of the aspect that makes them currently competitive is government subsidies which cannot continue into the future much longer. So, yes, his ideology does fit the reality on the ground. Another aspect you have missed is that while they are heavily taxed and under lots of burden, those taxes and burdens have been getting lowered, thus freeing up resources that have been locked down for three generations. One more aspect which you miss is that older workers are more productive than younger workers, they have experience, something the younger people in europe will never get, due to 24% and higher unemployment for generations at a time. So when those older people start to retire, and the younger middle age people start jobs, productivity will drop. On another part of the issue, the value of the Euro has been in decline for several years now, making it cheaper to buy european made items, making them more competitive, short term. But I credit much of the improvement there on the governments getting more conservative.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Northern European countries topped the overall ranking of a global competitiveness report released Wednesday by the World Economic Forum, as the United States slipped for the fourth year in a row.

Do the Ron Paul thing and pull out of NATO and remove our protective shield from Europe and let’s see how well they do.

We spend an obscene amount of our national treasure protecting other countries so that they don’t have to do the same protecting themselves.

But Japan was the darling of technological innovation for several decades and now they aren’t doing so well. The Europeans will go through the same thing down the line. Especially once their Socialist leaders and globalist banker friends figure out how to harvest their wealth and send their jobs and technologies to southeast Asia.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 5:20 PM

We could have clones of Ronald Reagan on steroids filling both houses of Congress and it won’t make any difference. All we can do at this point is slow them down while we still can.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 4:41 PM

It is our failures then. Simply slowing them down is admiting that we do not want to own up to our own failures and pay the price sooner rather than make someone else pay the price later. I guess the whole concept of responsibility has gone out the window. Which is exactly why the concept of a little socialism won’t hurt things is such a BIG LIE. It hurts everything. The people retired or soon retiring caused all this problem, but instead of making them suffer the consequences, the only offering on the table is to make them immune from the consequences.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 5:10 PM

I don’t see it as “our” failure. It’s a big country with a hell of a lot of people. I blame “them”. LOL

It’s NOT a failure of the founding principles of this country nor a failure of what we know to be right and what works best. But, if “they” around us aren’t interested and down with the program, what then?

I simply don’t know.

All I can hope for is that enough Americans out there will reject this attempted subjugation by foreign interests and ideologies. But from what I’ve been seeing and hearing, I don’t think enough Americans are in any kind of moral shape to resist much less set things aright.

I’ll resist as best as I can. That’s all I can do.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 5:28 PM

All I can hope for is that enough Americans out there will reject this attempted subjugation by foreign interests and ideologies. But from what I’ve been seeing and hearing, I don’t think enough Americans are in any kind of moral shape to resist much less set things aright.

I’ll resist as best as I can. That’s all I can do.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Me too, me too.
But I will not be voting for Romney. He does not represent those good things about this nation.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM

the United States slipped for the fourth year in a row

Hmmmm……..guess The Obamassiah’s plan is working.

GarandFan on September 5, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Me too, me too.
But I will not be voting for Romney. He does not represent those good things about this nation.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM

I know what you mean. But I will vote for him…that’s basically what I meant by slowing them down (assuming he wins). Won’t stop ‘em, but I think it will at least set back the Marxist elements and buy us some time to regroup…if enough Americans wake up and are interested that is.

If there is some kind of bounce back economically, I think most Americans will become complacent again overnight. OK, that’s human nature. But what I perceive as a sort of creeping abridgement of our Liberties is the most unsettling. It happens, unfortunately, under both parties but seems to be in hyperdrive with these Bill Ayers types running things up there.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 5:47 PM

We could have clones of Ronald Reagan on steroids filling both houses of Congress and it won’t make any difference. All we can do at this point is slow them down while we still can.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Bull.

We have perhaps 74 Tea Party Conservatives in office.

Yet all we hear on TV is how they are obstructing every thing.

They are making a difference and they have Romney and Priebus scared to death. So scared they even denied the Tea Party the right to vote in the Convention illegally.

Romney = Obama 99% of all issues.

But the day he won the MSM would make like Obama had never been President. From then on every thing wrong in America would be solely blamed on the Republicans. Come 2016 the Republican Party would be gone. It will have been destroyed by the MSM. If we were lucky there would be a new Tea Party that actually had replaced the GOP.

I say let’s just skip that and forget about this election. Romney is far worse for the GOP than Obama. Stinks to high heaven but it is what it is.

Hopefully by 2016 Priebus and Romney will be a nightmare we will have forgotten about and the Tea Party which is already the majority will actually have the power of the GOP.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Time for something new, don’t you think?

I do not think so. It is time for something two centuries old, constitutional government.

burt on September 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 6:25 PM

The Tea Party won’t matter if they don’t do something about our monetary supply, i.e., the Federal Reserve Board and the banks that run it. I don’t think they can do anything about it, because I believe too many fellow Tea Partiers are thinking they can turn the clock back to 1995 and economic prosperity (which I don’t remember being as great back then as everyone wants to paint it now…our economic system was already a hollow shell based upon God knows what).

You can’t have real economic prosperity by keeping the same failing systems in place and hanging on to the times it seems to work in between depressions and recessions.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Romney is proposing nothing that would make this not happen. He balances around 2040 to never.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago

Bill Ayres learned from the book Rules for Radicals written by Saul Alinsky.

Mitt Romney learned directly from Saul Alinsky. Mitt was his dad’s spokesman then.

Steveangell on September 5, 2012 at 7:58 PM

I’m convinced Romney will be worse for America long term than Obama is. That is saying quite a bit.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 11:11 PM

I guess the analogy I will make is this. This election was soooo important to saving this nation that we came out and voted in large numbers. We had other choices, but the choice we picked on the republican side is… We have a flesh eating disease eating away at our nation, and we picked the candidate that proposes trimming our fingernails to get rid of it.

astonerii on September 5, 2012 at 11:29 PM

It’s time to think more about how to help people succeed in this high growth area of the economy rather than pretend that a few slight changes in government policy will enable the US to return to its manufacturing glory days.

bayam on September 5, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Burn the books on the thousands and thousands of pages of regulations! You’re right that slight changes in government policy will enable the US to return to its glory days… it will require MASSIVE cuts in government policy to do that!

dominigan on September 6, 2012 at 10:15 AM