CNN poll: Romney gets convention bounce of … one point

posted at 5:21 pm on September 4, 2012 by Allahpundit

Actually, that’s well in line with the 2004 and 2008 conventions, where two candidates got a two-point bump and the other two got no bounce at all. The race is even now at 48 among likely voters, and Romney/Ryan did itself some good on discrete metrics. Favorables are up for both parts of the ticket, which will be useful if/when Democrats decide that the election hangs on convincing seniors that Paul Ryan wants to murder them:

Among likely voters, Mitt’s favorables are actually now higher than Obama’s. (Obligatory caveats: That may well change after the Democratic convention, and O’s favorables are still far better among registered voters.) Romney’s also increased his lead on the economy against Obama among likelies, from four points last week to six today. And he’s seen a nice turnaround on some questions involving core presidential traits too:

On the main head-to-head question against Obama, Romney led by three among independent likely voters last week. This week?

If you’re wondering how Romney can lead by double digits among independent likely voters and still only be tied with Obama, that’s … a good question. CNN doesn’t publish the partisan split among their sample, but the fact that they’re including leaners with the two parties in this data set probably means (a) the “independent” column is comprised of true independents, which is a small group, and (b) the sample must lean a few points to the left. D+2 or D+3 is possible on election day, but anything beyond that seems far-fetched. Sure would be nice if we had the split to judge.

So far, so good. But alas, my friends, in Eeyoreworld the news is never truly “good.” A troubling footnote:

Granted, that’s registered voters, not likelies, but CNN’s pollster has asked that same question after 12 different conventions dating back to 1984 and the numbers have been net positive every time. Even the 2004 Democratic convention, which gave John Kerry no bounce, saw him net +3 on this particular query. Check out the gender and party splits:

Again, these are registered voters, but these numbers aren’t supposed to be negative. Among women the response is -17(!) on the more/less likely question and among indies it’s -5. Overall, 56 percent of registereds say the GOP spent too much time criticizing the other side versus 34 percent who said they maintained the right balance between criticism and saying positive things about themselves. I’ll be awfully curious to see how that same question shakes out for O given that the Democratic convention promises to be just as negative as the GOP’s, if not more so. Exit question: Er, if people reacted to the convention this badly, how is it that Romney’s favorables are up (among likelies) and he has a small bounce? Surely the gap between likely voters and registered voters isn’t that insanely wide.


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We have the money, manpower, motivation and have the wins to match. Ignore conventional wisdom, we are winning.

rob verdi on September 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM

OT: is it me or does cnn have a picture in picture for the dem the convention…did they do this for the rnc convention

hmmmmm bias anyone?

cmsinaz on September 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Exit question: Er, if people reacted to the convention this badly, how is it that Romney’s favorables are up (among likelies) and he has a small bounce? Surely the gap between likely voters and registered voters isn’t that insanely wide.

It probably is for Republican voters. They’re far more enthused about voting in this election than Dems, so the gap between registered and likely voters could be huge. That’s why I put a lot more faith in Rasmussen than CNN at this point.

Doughboy on September 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Obama is going down.

Romney’s favorables continue to rise, and he’s raking in the money. Romney will have a distinct financial advantage in these last two months before the election.

We will win this thing.

bluegill on September 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

That’s it, I’m voting TFGRP.

Bishop on September 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM

The net convention number is probably just reflective of both parties having net negative ratings rather than any statement on the convention itself.

TallDave on September 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Then this means he’s like 5 points ahead?

jawkneemusic on September 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Look who parks their cash at Bain

* Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund ($2.2 million)
* Indiana Public Retirement System ($39.3 million)
* Iowa Public Employees’ Retirement System ($177.1 million)
* The Los Angeles Fire and Police Pension System ($19.5 million)
* Maryland State Retirement and Pension System ($117.5 million)
* Public Employees’ Retirement System of Nevada ($20.3 million)
* State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio ($767.3 million)
* Pennsylvania State Employees’ Retirement System ($231.5 million)
* Employees’ Retirement System of Rhode Island ($25 million)
* San Diego County Employees Retirement Association ($23.5 million)
* Teacher Retirement System of Texas ($122.5 million)
* Tennessee Consolidated Retirement System ($15 million)

* Purdue University ($15.9 million)
* University of California ($225.7 million)
* University of Michigan ($130 million)
* University of Virginia ($20 million)
* University of Washington ($33 million)

Bain Capital Ventures Fund I (launched in 2001) managed wealth for “endowments and foundations such as Columbia, Princeton and Yale universities.”

Major, center-left foundations and cultural establishments also have seen their prospects brighten, thanks to Bain Capital. According to the aforementioned sources, such Bain clients have included the Charles Stewart Mott Foundation, the Doris Duke Foundation, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Ford Foundation, the Heinz Endowments and the Oprah Winfrey Foundation.

Why on Earth would government-union leaders, university presidents and foundation chiefs let Bain oversee their precious assets?

“The scrutiny generated by a heated election year matters less than the performance the portfolio generates to the fund,” California State Teachers’ Retirement System spokesman Ricardo Duran said in the Aug. 12 Boston Globe. CalSTRS has pumped some $1.25 billion into Bain.

Since 1988, Duran says, private-equity companies like Bain have outperformed every other asset class to which CalSTRS has allocated the cash of its 856,360 largely unionized members.

Is Bain really a gang of corporate buccaneers who plunder their ill-gotten gains by outsourcing, euthanizing feeble portfolio companies and giving cancer to the spouses of those whom they fired? If so, union bosses, government retirees, liberal foundations and elite universities thrive on the wages of Bain’s economic Darwinism.

J_Crater on September 4, 2012 at 5:28 PM

I don’t care what or if a bounce was gotten, OUR home will vote R&R come he!! or high water!
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letget on September 4, 2012 at 5:28 PM

angryed is angry.

22044 on September 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

let’s show other polls where dear leader is doing awesome
-msdnc

cmsinaz on September 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

I would never, ever tell a pollster I was voting for Mittens.

Undecided, maybe.

Probably say Obama, just to mess with them.

Let them figure it out on November 7.

Bruno Strozek on September 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

I’m feeling optomistic to help offset your Eeyoreness.

Deano1952 on September 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

I’m not buying this CNN poll at all.

TarheelBen on September 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

It’s okay… just wait til Billy Jeff goes off script and endorses Romney at the DNC (… aw, come on, a girl can dream, right?). :D

CantCureStupid on September 4, 2012 at 5:30 PM

..another heady dose of narcotic for the Cousin Pookies asleep on their couches across this great land!

Someone cue the Brahms lullaby.

The War Planner on September 4, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Every poll seems to have Romney with a sizeable lead with independents, near or over double digits.

It is mathematically impossible for him to be tied, if that is true.

Unless…the sample used is an LV model on an electorate expected to be at or more Democrat than 2008.

If the electorate is D+3 or lower, Romney wins, though D+3 could really go either way. I think its closer to even right now. If it is R+ anything, it’ll be a landslide.

Ca97 on September 4, 2012 at 5:31 PM

I think Romney’s net look across the board is pretty positive. There will be marginal calls on a few stats, but the signs are all pointing toward #winning.

ted c on September 4, 2012 at 5:31 PM

I have a poll showing OBAMA 100% Romney 0% among Registered Voters who watch Current TV.

Varchild on September 4, 2012 at 5:32 PM

After The PARTY OF DEATH has their Abortion Festival to Baal and Molech this week CNN and every other poll should show a 40 point swing towards Obama.

Based solely on the stories this week by the traitorous media.

VOTE COMMIE 2012!!!!

D-N-C

D-N-C

PappyD61 on September 4, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Actually, that’s well in line with the 2004 and 2008 conventions, where two candidates got a two-point bump and the other two got no bounce at all.

hmmm… 2008 RNC had a 6 point bounce

faraway on September 4, 2012 at 5:32 PM

MOE is over +/-6% on each voter group. That’s over a 12% swing. One could make that up out of thin air.

bgibbs1000 on September 4, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Couple things. The numbers dont make sense. Lead Independents by 10 but tied? Huge dropoff in women after the convention which was very pro women?

And its from CNN, probably the most biased pollster of all time.

mitchellvii on September 4, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Plus, Obama has snagged the bedbug vote.

bloggless on September 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Surely the gap between likely voters and registered voters isn’t that insanely wide.

Oh, no. CNN wouldn’t do that,would they? Here’s what happened: They did a likely voter poll with a reasonable partisan breakdown, D+2 or D+3, as Allah says. And sweet mother of Jesus — the DID NOT LIKE the results!!!! So they went back and did a registered poll, this time with a much more favorable partisan split, D+8 or D+9 — and they got what they wanted, a softer blow for barack. And we can tell they did this by looking at their internal partisan breakdown numbers– oh, wait…they’re unavailable.

Rational Thought on September 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM

In every single poll one fact holds true. Romney leads Independents by double digits.

Its over.

mitchellvii on September 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM

We will win this thing.

bluegill on September 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Uh-oh.

wolfsDad on September 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Most of the people paying attention to the conventions are political junkies who already know who they’re voting for, and aren’t about to change their minds.

AZCoyote on September 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Never ever ever ever trust a poll without seeing the Sample breakdown.

Never

Never

Never.

PappyD61 on September 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Landslides don’t bounce.

faraway on September 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

So Romney gets a one point bounce after the GOP convention. I’m sure that will mean Obama will surely get a 10 point bounce after the awesomeness of the Democrat convention. Minimum.

hawkeye54 on September 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Look who parks their cash at Bain

* Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund ($2.2 million)
* Indiana Public Retirement System ($39.3 million)
* Iowa Public Employees’ Retirement System ($177.1 million)
* The Los Angeles Fire and Police Pension System ($19.5 million)
* Maryland State Retirement and Pension System ($117.5 million)
* Public Employees’ Retirement System of Nevada ($20.3 million)
* State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio ($767.3 million)
* Pennsylvania State Employees’ Retirement System ($231.5 million)
* Employees’ Retirement System of Rhode Island ($25 million)
* San Diego County Employees Retirement Association ($23.5 million)
* Teacher Retirement System of Texas ($122.5 million)
* Tennessee Consolidated Retirement System ($15 million)

* Purdue University ($15.9 million)
* University of California ($225.7 million)
* University of Michigan ($130 million)
* University of Virginia ($20 million)
* University of Washington ($33 million)

THIS

Needs to be repeated often and thrown back in the faces of the media stoolies- like Stephapooponus- or an unhinged Chrissie- and make these propagandist fools realize they are the moronic idiots they have been praying(hoping) they aren’t.

FlaMurph on September 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM

People lie in polls so no-one will call them racists.

The only poll that’ll truly reflect reality is the poll on Nov 6, 2012.

NapaConservative on September 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Who are all these bi-polar, Jekyll and Hyde voters that are being polled? Even Rasmussen’s seem suspect? There was literally NOTHING at that Republican convention that should have made either Romney or Ryan less desireable candidates.

BettyRuth on September 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Just another poll trying to influence opinion rather than measure it. Still too soon for them to want or need to appear credible.

AZfederalist on September 4, 2012 at 5:37 PM

CNN’s pollster has asked that same question after 12 different conventions dating back to 1984 and the numbers have been net positive every time. Even the 2004 Democratic convention, which gave John Kerry no bounce, saw him net +3 on this particular query.

Something’s rotten in Denmark.

Kataklysmic on September 4, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Next Tuesday will be very interesting.

SouthernGent on September 4, 2012 at 5:38 PM

The 2008 gop Convention had a six point PALIN BOUNCE.

Until McCain threw in the towel.

Palin was the only candidate worth voting for in 2008, the rest sucked sucked sucked.

Back on the meds now. :-)

PappyD61 on September 4, 2012 at 5:38 PM

No internals on Party ID, but this poll illustrates an extremely important point with regard to LV vs RV polls.

Likely Voters only
Barry 48% Romney 48%

Registered Voters only
Barry 52% Romney 45%

A difference of 7 points, converting a significant Barry edge to a tie.

bayview on September 4, 2012 at 5:39 PM

I would never, ever tell a pollster I was voting for Mittens.

Undecided, maybe.

Probably say Obama, just to mess with them.

Let them figure it out on November 7.

Bruno Strozek on September 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

I do pretty much the same thing. Never let the enemy know what your planning to do.

PrettyD_Vicious on September 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Never ever ever ever trust a poll without seeing the Sample breakdown.

Never

Never

Never.

PappyD61 on September 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Not trying to flame but I would really like to know what’s Rasmussen’s sample breakdown and what is Gallup’s?

bgibbs1000 on September 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM

I think that the media are going to wait as long as they can before switching to likely voter models, and some may quietly not switch at all. The only thing that kept the Left alive after 9-11 was the belief that 2000 was stolen from them. If they can keep it tied, they think they can hold back a preference cascade, maybe flip a close swing state, or at least try and cast enough doubt on a Romney win to try and re-create the post-2000 energy.

I hope they fail.

Sekhmet on September 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Now, everybody that believes anything undertaken or published by CNN please see me . . . I have several large bridges to sell. It’s all rigged by the mainstream media and you can expect that they will announce a significant bounce for the messiah. Ignore their propaganda, just go to the voting booth and cast your ballot because that’s the only poll that matters.

rplat on September 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Uh-oh. barack campaign dismissing as “old news” his gaffe today giving his grade on the economy as an “incomplete.” Being the dumb-ass kid in class who doesn’t get any work done must not be polling well.

Rational Thought on September 4, 2012 at 5:41 PM

… CNN!….Bounce THIS!…(oh wait!…you can’t see!)

KOOLAID2 on September 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM

As far as I am concerned you can flush any CNN poll down the toilet!

rjoco1 on September 4, 2012 at 5:43 PM

I don’t buy any of these polls. None of them make sense. Look at the Gallup 7 day tracking poll it has been Obama +1 for a week straight. Statistical noise alone should make it move.

tbrickert on September 4, 2012 at 5:44 PM

exasperated after a long w-end camping with a couple who think they have it all figured out and Obama is “at least trying to do something.”

screwauger on September 4, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Granted, that’s registered voters, not likelies, but CNN’s pollster has asked that same question after 12 different conventions dating back to 1984 and the numbers have been net positive every time. Even the 2004 Democratic convention, which gave John Kerry no bounce, saw him net +3 on this particular query.

Maybe they just do not like conventions.

Again, these are registered voters, but these numbers aren’t supposed to be negative. Among women the response is -17(!) on the more/less likely question and among indies it’s -5. Overall, 56 percent of registereds say the GOP spent too much time criticizing the other side versus 34 percent who said they maintained the right balance between criticism and saying positive things about themselves. I’ll be awfully curious to see how that same question shakes out for O given that the Democratic convention promises to be just as negative as the GOP’s, if not more so.

I caught a few minutes of Rush today and he said that the Republicans were too timid in their convention, not willing enough to go after Democrats. Apparently average voters do not see it that way.

I think people are just sick of politics at this point.

Er, if people reacted to the convention this badly, how is it that Romney’s favorables are up (among likelies) and he has a small bounce? Surely the gap between likely voters and registered voters isn’t that insanely wide.

They liked Romney and Ryan better..that does not mean they like three days of politicking better. Or maybe the poll is just off someway.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 5:45 PM

EVERY POLL UNTIL 2 WEEKS OUT IS BIASED !
Polls now are not about getting an accurate read, but about raising morale on the left and dispiriting conservatives.
Last time around, your heart told you there was a chance, but your gut and head told you McCain was toast. (Hell, I think he enjoyed being the guy who lost to our first half-black president.)
This time? Gut, heart, brain all say Romney wins by 3 to 5 nationally.
For the first time in his life, Obama has an actual record to judge (that he can’t seal away from the public like every other part of his friggin life.)
The emperor has no clothes.

Sugar Land on September 4, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Never ever ever ever trust a poll without seeing the Sample breakdown.

Never

Never

Never.

PappyD61 on September 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Have to agree with you Pappy. And bgibbs1000 says a MOE of 6%.

Pass.

kim roy on September 4, 2012 at 5:46 PM

What CNN says means nothing one way or the other. If anything they say is true, it is an accident.

VorDaj on September 4, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Next Tuesday will be very interesting.

SouthernGent on September 4, 2012 at 5:38 PM

…why?…did Mooch tell everybody to vote for JugEars in the Presidential election… then?…or is she still sticking with the November 2nd date?

KOOLAID2 on September 4, 2012 at 5:47 PM

What the heck-fahr!!!

How can ObamaCare repeal be favored 55-45 or better in polls and Obama even be close??

Do people not realize the only way to get rid of ObamaCare is to rid the Oval office of its author?

Helllllllllllo disconnect!!!!!!

The only thing that is saving him has to be the Wilder effect.

PappyD61 on September 4, 2012 at 5:47 PM

I don’t buy any of these polls. None of them make sense. Look at the Gallup 7 day tracking poll it has been Obama +1 for a week straight. Statistical noise alone should make it move.

tbrickert on September 4, 2012 at 5:44 PM

And yet I saw yesterday that Gallup had Obama’s approval numbers at 43%.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I don’t buy any of these polls. None of them make sense. Look at the Gallup 7 day tracking poll it has been Obama +1 for a week straight. Statistical noise alone should make it move.

tbrickert on September 4, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Yeah, I’m not buying Gallup tracking at all, no movement for either guy in a week during the GOP convention? Total BS. Although I was wondering when the media would actually get around to blatantly fixing polls, guess I found out.

bgibbs1000 on September 4, 2012 at 5:49 PM

How can ObamaCare repeal be favored 55-45 or better in polls and Obama even be close??

Do people not realize the only way to get rid of ObamaCare is to rid the Oval office of its author?

Helllllllllllo disconnect!!!!!!

The only thing that is saving him has to be the Wilder effect.

PappyD61 on September 4, 2012 at 5:47 PM

I wondered exactly the same thing.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 5:49 PM

OT: is it me or does cnn have a picture in picture for the dem the convention…did they do this for the rnc convention

hmmmmm bias anyone?

cmsinaz on September 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM

They are rotating interpreters through–Spanish, Arabic, Gangsta sign language, etc..

hillsoftx on September 4, 2012 at 5:50 PM

People lie in polls so no-one will call them racists.

The only poll that’ll truly reflect reality is the poll on Nov 6, 2012.

NapaConservative on September 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Seriously!?! Why would anyone lie in a telephone poll? They are yes or no questions. They are anonymous polls. Recipients are not added to a “racist” list. This is as crazy as the talk back in 2004 that said telephone polls were not accurate because democrats were too cool to have landlines..they were all mobile and on vonage …or something.

oceansidecon on September 4, 2012 at 5:50 PM

If you’re wondering how Romney can lead by double digits among independent likely voters and still only be tied with Obama, that’s … a good question

Nothing to see here. Obama has this in the bag. No need to show up. You ’08 Obama supporters can go back to your pot taking and coke (when you can afford it, but no smack).

forest on September 4, 2012 at 5:52 PM

I don’t believe Rasmussen either without a sample breakdown.

Polls are meaningless. It’s all about one thing……….TURNOUT!!!!

If its a repeat of 2010 it’s a landslide defeat for Obama.

And I sense fear in the air at the DNC, they KNOW what the numbers mean. Obama is in the same place Bush 41 was in back in 1992.

He wants a 2nd term but he has NO VISION for it.

We just need a visual of Obama looking at his watch during the debates and it will be finished.

PappyD61 on September 4, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Seriously!?! Why would anyone lie in a telephone poll? They are yes or no questions.

oceansidecon on September 4, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Do some studying on the White Guilt of 08 and The Bradley Effect.

hillsoftx on September 4, 2012 at 5:53 PM

CNN poll: Romney gets convention bounce of … one point

Lolololol

HotAirLib on September 4, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Who are all these bi-polar, Jekyll and Hyde voters that are being polled? Even Rasmussen’s seem suspect? There was literally NOTHING at that Republican convention that should have made either Romney or Ryan less desireable candidates.

BettyRuth on September 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM

It is odd…there is a disconnect in the poll..that is why I thought that maybe people are just getting sick of conventions.

I wonder how many people will actually watch the Democratic convention. I know I won’t. I probably won’t even watch the news until it is over.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 5:54 PM

bgibbs1000 on September 4, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Fixed polls, fact checkers lying, it makes it difficult to stay optimistic

tbrickert on September 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Then this means he’s like 5 points ahead?

jawkneemusic on September 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM

I disagree. It means Romney is like 90 points ahead.

HotAirLib on September 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM

If you’re wondering how Romney can lead by double digits among independent likely voters and still only be tied with Obama, that’s … a good question. CNN doesn’t publish the partisan split among their sample

theres a lot of ways to do it, i played with the numbers a few times on a couple of the lines. my guess:
D/R/I – 37/32/31
that gets you to about where this shakes out. looks like maybe a D +2/3 oversample? maybe more?

t8stlikchkn on September 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Lolololol

HotAirLib on September 4, 2012 at 5:53 PM

And Romney is 10 points ahead with Indendents and most voters think Romney can do a better job on the economy…lololo

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 5:56 PM

I have a poll showing OBAMA 100% Romney 0% among Registered Voters who watch Current TV.

Varchild on September 4, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Lies.

You know that registered voters don’t watch Current TV.

Re: the poll. I wasn’t expecting much of a bounce from that. I doubt Obama’s bounce will be any bigger. People have basically made up their minds.

Stoic Patriot on September 4, 2012 at 5:56 PM

And Romney is 10 points ahead with Indendents and most voters think Romney can do a better job on the economy…lololo

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 5:56 PM

That should be Independents….but people can probably figure that out anyway.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 5:57 PM

If Romney is winning independent voters by double digits, he’s looking at a real blowout this November.

My opinion is that most Americans have made up their mind already, which is why Obama is stuck at somewhere around 45%. There’s just a little hesitation in being really vocal about throwing out the first black President.

BradTank on September 4, 2012 at 5:57 PM

bgibbs1000 on September 4, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Fixed polls, fact checkers lying, it makes it difficult to stay optimistic

tbrickert on September 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Go check out the Charlie Crist headline thread and read the comments. That will cheer you up. At least it did me. :)

kim roy on September 4, 2012 at 5:57 PM

It was the marxist who campaigned all week during the GOP convention. Romney’s at his lake home brushing up for the debates during the dem convention. That tells you something right there.

bgibbs1000 on September 4, 2012 at 5:57 PM

I’m not buying this CNN poll at all.

TarheelBen on September 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Why am i not surprised?

HotAirLib on September 4, 2012 at 5:58 PM

If you look at p.4 of that CNN poll, their sample looks to be R+3.
432 Registered Republicans
391 Registered Democrats

AngusMc on September 4, 2012 at 5:58 PM

If a CNN poll without public crosstabs of the sample demographics causes you concern, I recommend immediate suicide.

Naturally you will go straight to hell and will miss the actual election but on the bright side the rest of humanity will be spared the incessant whining.

Alternatively, you could seek a surgically implanted spine and testicles.

Adjoran on September 4, 2012 at 5:59 PM

I disagree. It means Romney is like 90 points ahead.

HotAirLib on September 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM

I heard today that 17% fewer people were planning on watching the convention and Obama is poised to move his big speech indoors into a 20,000 seat setting rather than the 74,000 seat setting…even busing people in and giving tickets away will not fill that stadium…maybe they should hand out condoms or something.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Good news: Democrats proclaim that you belong to government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6gLa9Te8Blw

lorien1973 on September 4, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Granted, that’s registered voters, not likelies, but CNN’s pollster has asked that same question after 12 different conventions dating back to 1984 and the numbers have been net positive every time. Even the 2004 Democratic convention, which gave John Kerry no bounce, saw him net +3 on this particular query.

That’s an easy one. Was the media totally and completely in the tank for one candidate in those past elections? Nope. Look at how the question is worded; it’s highly doubtful that anyone read much of anything positive about the convention. They day after Romney’s speech, the top 4 most read pieces at the WaPo were some variation on how Paul Ryan and/or Romney were liars. With that shyte all over the media, it’s a wonder the numbers in that polling question aren’t worse.

rcpjr on September 4, 2012 at 5:59 PM

The leftist media will try to control the dialogue until Nov. 6.

Just wait until the debates.

Clown questions await.

FlaMurph on September 4, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Breaking News from CNN
Dateline: September 4th, 2012

Obama’s back! After an awesome speech all political pundits now see the campaign as all but over. Trailing slighty going into the convention, Obama gave a speech of a lifetime. Many analysts say that this speech will go down in history as one of the best convention speeches of all time if not one of the top speeches in recent political history.

Polls taken shortly after Obama’s speech show Obama getting a double digit bounce and now leads Romney 58-42. Bill Clinton who also delivered a masterful message for re-electing Barack Obama said he now has to hand over the title of the Comeback Kid to Obama.
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Correction: this article wasn’t supposed to be released until Friday, September 7th.

HumpBot Salvation on September 4, 2012 at 6:00 PM

In any case, the era of the convention bounce is mostly over. The country has been too divided on partisan lines since the 2000 election that only a tiny handful are genuinely undecided by August/September.

Used to be that convention bounces were of the +10-15 point range. Now a “good” convention bounce is considered +4 points.

I expect Obama to get nada for a convention bounce as well.

AngusMc on September 4, 2012 at 6:01 PM

If you look at p.4 of that CNN poll, their sample looks to be R+3.
432 Registered Republicans
391 Registered Democrats

AngusMc on September 4, 2012 at 5:58 PM

I saw that and if true it makes the poll even more suspect considering Romney is up 10 with independents in that same poll. No way that the poll has oversample of GOP voters, and gets those results, no way.

bgibbs1000 on September 4, 2012 at 6:02 PM

If you look at p.4 of that CNN poll, their sample looks to be R+3.
432 Registered Republicans
391 Registered Democrats

AngusMc on September 4, 2012 at 5:58 PM

they had to do some serious weighting adj to get to these results then. which appear about D+5-6

t8stlikchkn on September 4, 2012 at 6:02 PM

If you look at p.4 of that CNN poll, their sample looks to be R+3.
432 Registered Republicans
391 Registered Democrats

AngusMc on September 4, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Do you have a link to the poll itself? I could not find it…and what about Independents? Often times it is in the leaners that the Democrats get their advantage. I do not even know what the total number of respondents weree.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Nobody believes either one of these damn parties anymore.

Thank God.

This could be the year of the third party.

FINALLY.

fatlibertarianinokc on September 4, 2012 at 6:04 PM

It’s clear they are still using the ’08 model, while the electorate will look more like ’10

Tater Salad on September 4, 2012 at 6:04 PM

I’m not worried. Wait until he starts spending his campaign funds.

Charlemagne on September 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM

I saw that and if true it makes the poll even more suspect considering Romney is up 10 with independents in that same poll. No way that the poll has oversample of GOP voters, and gets those results, no way.

bgibbs1000 on September 4, 2012 at 6:02 PM

You are right..that does not make sense..if Republicans were even a parity with Democrats and Romney had a 10 point advantage with Independents then he would have to be ahead in the poll..unless a lot of those Independents were Democrat leaners.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM

hillsoftx on September 4, 2012 at 5:50 PM

gotcha :)

cmsinaz on September 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM

If you look at Pi$$ Poor Poll released yesterday for FL, MI, and CO. All three had Barry leading Romney among independents, and gave Barry the edge head to head in the final tally

FL 51-39, +14
MI 54-38, +16
CO 48-41, +7

The CNN poll,along with most others have Romney leading among independents, you wonder why there should have such a large difference in the opposite direction for the Pi$$ Poor Polls

bayview on September 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM

fatlibertarianinokc on September 4, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Concern trolling noted.

lorien1973 on September 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM

All of the polls add up to 88% to 92%. If we assume that the undecided voters go for Romney, we’re looking at a landslide for Romney. The people of this country are clueless, but not that clueless.

If only single women didn’t vote! Is it too late to change that?

cajunpatriot on September 4, 2012 at 6:06 PM

This could be the year of the third party.

FINALLY.

fatlibertarianinokc on September 4, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Actually 92 and 96 were the years of the third party and all we got out of it was Bill Clinton, winning with 43% of the vote.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Who are all these bi-polar, Jekyll and Hyde voters that are being polled? Even Rasmussen’s seem suspect? There was literally NOTHING at that Republican convention that should have made either Romney or Ryan less desireable candidates.

BettyRuth on September 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Are you kidding? The “budget savior” with the boyish looks lied his a$$ off. He lied about the GM plant in his district, lied about Simpson Bowles. He was a disaster. Even the diehard conservatives couldn’t defend his lies.

Then again, Ann Romey’s “I Love Womennnnnn” rant was so convincing. What is wrong with these pesky Americans? Why can’t they believe Ann lovvvvvvvessss womennnnnn?

HotAirLib on September 4, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Every poll seems to have Romney with a sizeable lead with independents, near or over double digits.

It is mathematically impossible for him to be tied, if that is true.
Ca97 on September 4, 2012 at 5:31 PM

ENOUGH with the LOGIC!!! ‘Round here a poll is a poll is a POLL…yours is not to question why/how but to absorb and get depresed. We do have pacifiers available if it gets too rough..

winston on September 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Do you have a link to the poll itself? I could not find it…and what about Independents? Often times it is in the leaners that the Democrats get their advantage. I do not even know what the total number of respondents weree.

Terrye on September 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/09/04/rel9a.pdf\

Looks like they pushed leaners hard to choose Republican or Democrat. Doing the math, if they interviewed 877 registered voters, 432R and 391D, that leaves only 54 registered independents?

AngusMc on September 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM

For me, the telling thing is this:

100% of people know Obama. There’s nothing new to learn. He talks about himself almost exclusively, how he personally killed Bin Laden, how he kept GM on life support, etc. Yet, even with skewed polls he can’t break 50%.

With an electorate that KNOWS HIM, he can’t break 50%.

Mitt Romney on the other hand is an unknown quantity by the majority of people in this country, and for many of them their only impression is the lying liars negative ads over the past two months. Yet he’s tied in a poll with no revealed split!

Romney has nothing but up, if he doesn’t commit a HUGE gaffe, and the base and the GOP is more motivated to go vote.

And finally, if I’m CNN or CBS or any other state run media, and I want the polls to not look horrible, I find all my respondents, from whichever party, in New York City, LA, San Francisco, where even some Republicans are swayed by the choom and the crowd sentiment. Thankfully for us, those cities have a big say, but even if California and New York go 100% for the commie, the other states can say “NO!”.

Romney has 60+ days to define himself, crush Obama in the debates, have Ryan crush Biden in theirs, and the ad blitz is just beginning from our side.

2008 saw the Sarah Palin bounce. 2012 I believe Obama has reached the most he’s going to get – 48% if he’s lucky. But those numbers will be from the Blue States. It’s entirely possible he loses 45 of the 57 ( :) ) states.

PastorJon on September 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Most people don’t even know conventions exist. More people don’t even know primaries exist. Not sure how you get a big bounce from that.

MrX on September 4, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Romney is finally waking up to the reality. Come November we will be finally rid of this pest. One can only hope he won’t gird up again and run for 2016.

promachus on September 4, 2012 at 6:08 PM

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