Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on September 3, 2012 by Allahpundit

As Democrats head to Charlotte for this week’s convention, Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney is heading back on the campaign trail later this week with a new message: the hope and change that President Barack Obama promised four years ago has left people disappointed…

“It has been a disappointing four years,” Romney said. “And I think for that reason, people of Ohio, even those who like him a lot will say, you know, he is just not up to the job.”

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Just as Mitt Romney’s challenge last week at the Republican National Convention was to connect on a personal level with voters and make them comfortable with the idea of him sitting in the Oval Office, President Obama’s challenge this week at the Democratic National Convention is to reignite the flame—the passion among young and Latino voters that burned four years ago but is now just a smoldering ember…

Among the 9,659 registered voters interviewed by the Gallup Organization’s tracking polls Aug. 6-26, Romney and Obama were tied overall at 46 percent. But Obama beat Romney by 24 points, 58 percent to 34 percent, among voters ages 18-29 and by a whopping 32 points, 61 percent to 29 percent, among Latinos. In each case, the percentage who say they will definitely vote is significantly lower than it is among other demographic groups who view Obama less charitably.

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Barack Obama could have learned something from LBJ. As a candidate Obama promised to change the way Washington works and he rode a wave of global support into the White House. His first two years in office have repeatedly been compared to the New Deal under Franklin Roosevelt and the Great Society under Johnson, with historic achievements on health care, Wall Street reform and other domestic priorities.

But Obama’s first term has also left many of his supporters wondering whether those accomplishments could have been bigger in size, scope and impact. The health care reform legislation was built largely off a conservative model, with millions of people shuttled into the private market. The financial regulatory reform bill contained carve-outs for the private sector and is widely regarded as not far-reaching enough to curb some of the banking industry’s worst practices. The White House made little effort to push labor priorities like the Employee Free Choice Act, which would have granted workers more avenues to form unions. The Iraq war may have ended, but the war in Afghanistan heated up, with lingering confusion as to why troops remain there…

Van Jones, a former White House official whose background in grassroots organizing gave him a different perspective from those of officials who’d come from the Clinton administration, summed up the consternation felt by many Obama supporters.

“Who killed the hope?” Jones wondered. “And what happened?”

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The expectation was that Obama represented a new brand of politics, marshaling ideas, language and tactics in ways that would constitute a break from Democratic orthodoxy. The reality is that Obama, so far, has presented no set of ideas that collectively represent anything that might last beyond his term as “Obamism.” His West Wing staff, and his governing agenda, have their roots deep in the traditional Democratic soil of Chicago and Capitol Hill.

The expectation was that Obama’s governing style would find fresh uses of the presidential platform, inspiring public pressure to forge new governing coalitions. The reality is that Obama by his own admission has not used his pulpit in creative ways — failing to “tell a story to the American people that gives them a sense of unity and purpose and optimism,” as he told a CBS News interviewer this summer. And, far from breaking a generation-long partisan standoff in Washington, Obama’s presidency has been almost entirely defined by it.

The expectation was that Obama would be a dazzling personal presence in Washington, lighting the capital with an electric surge of power and glamour that would revive JFK’s Camelot with an African-American hue. The reality is that Obama’s cultural impact has been virtually nil. His weekends are that of a typical middle-aged suburban professional, hanging out with wife and daughters, except when he’s not retreating with a small collection of friends to the basketball court or golf course…

“The worst thing that ever happened him was that he was saddled with a myth before he ever earned it,” said Smith.

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Conservatives who consider Obama a thinly disguised Leninist will be surprised that liberals have grown disenchanted with their onetime hero. But you can’t underestimate the naïveté and ignorance that inflated the bubble of the Obama Delusion — how fragile it was, how vulnerable to the first pinprick of reality. It turns out they really did expect a “transformative” presidency that would move us beyond left and right. They meant it! And in this childish belief they were encouraged by their candidate, who might have meant it too, for the same reasons. Obama’s admiration for Barack Obama, after all, was even greater than theirs, and his ignorance of the messy practical realities of self-government almost as complete…

As for the personal chilliness that disappoints Fallows, we should be surprised that he’s surprised. The self-love that freed Obama to portray himself during the campaign in laughably grandiose (but inspirational!) terms accounts for his “inability to connect with people” in smaller settings. Now that his workplace has moved from the center of college sports arenas where he was surrounded by hysterical youngsters to offices and hallways and conference tables where men of guile and cunning gather, the power of his ego has failed him.

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Obama’s pattern is this: Make a promise; break the promise; insist that you’ve kept the promise, and hope the press gives you a free pass. When called out, resort to absurd word parsing. This is how Obama campaigns, and it is how he governs

Still, in his 2010 State of the Union address, Obama said, “we’ve excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs.” When I pressed the White House on this, it defended the claim, writing: “As the President said we have turned away lobbyists for many, many positions.”

This sleight of hand is not a one-off. Obama does it over and over.

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When first elected, Obama supposedly sought to secure his personal and political identity by emulating Abraham Lincoln’s “Team of Rivals,” enlisting political opposites to his inner circle. This included making Hillary Clinton, whom he defeated in a hotly contested 2008 primary contest, his secretary of state and keeping on Defense Chief Robert Gates, who served in that capacity under Obama’s Republican predecessor, George W. Bush.

Today, the “Team of Rivals” is more appearance than reality. “He thought it was a great idea and ever since he’s backtracked, he didn’t really do it,” Maraniss says. When top appointments are made, the paramount consideration usually is how the people fit the president’s “comfort” zone

Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida, noted the other day that he had just finished reading the fourth installment of Robert Caro’s epic biography of Lyndon Johnson. He thought of the contrast with Obama. “Johnson,” Bush says, “would have grabbed people by the shoulders, ears, head. He would have convinced John Boehner that it was his patriotic duty to step up. He would have charmed whoever was the guy who needed to be charmed, or the gal, to get the budget done.”

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[E]ven those loyal to Mr. Obama say that his quest for excellence can bleed into cockiness and that he tends to overestimate his capabilities. The cloistered nature of the White House amplifies those tendencies, said Matthew Dowd, a former adviser to President George W. Bush, adding that the same thing happened to his former boss. “There’s a reinforcing quality,” he said, a tendency for presidents to think, I’m the best at this…

For someone dealing with the world’s weightiest matters, Mr. Obama spends surprising energy perfecting even less consequential pursuits. He has played golf 104 times since becoming president, according to Mark Knoller of CBS News, who monitors his outings, and he asks superior players for tips that have helped lower his scores. He decompresses with card games on Air Force One, but players who do not concentrate risk a reprimand (“You’re not playing, you’re just gambling,” he once told Arun Chaudhary, his former videographer)…

Asked if there was anything at which the president allowed himself to just flat-out fail, Mr. Nesbitt gave a long pause. “If he picks up something new, at first he’s not good, but he’ll work until he gets better,” he said.

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The sense that Obama simply won’t sacrifice his brand, or image as a winner, for the greater Democratic good is widespread in Democratic circles. Over the past four years, he has led his party through the political wars, including some they didn’t want to fight, while managing to forge only a handful of new relationships with Democrats outside his tight circle. He’s toiled shoulder to shoulder with his party’s leaders, but just as assiduously distanced himself from his fellow Democrats to cultivate the image of bipartisanship or avoid the taint of single-digit congressional approval ratings.

These days, Obama’s messaging is strikingly in tune with that of down-ballot Democrats. Yet there’s a nagging sense among some headed to Charlotte that Obama is an enthusiastic Democrat who remains oddly unenthusiastic about other Democrats…

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has repeatedly chided Obama’s top aides, including Axelrod, Jack Lew and Gene Sperling, over the White House’s lack of attention to House Democrats and Obama’s rhetorical habit of lumping all members of Congress into the same political refuse heap. Senators have also made their frustrations known behind closed doors, with Axelrod absorbing a fair amount of the flak aimed at his boss — including a memorable tongue-lashing from Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) over health care messaging in 2010.

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All of which leaves the question of what would happen in a second Obama term.

The president’s advisers believe the instinct for consensus remains part of Obama’s basic political makeup — though Republicans still do not. Obama’s team points to the fact that whether as president of the Harvard Law Review or as a member of the Illinois Senate, he found ways to bring together people of opposing views. The current campaign, however, could make hitting a reset button more difficult — if that is the president’s hope or intention.

After the rancor of the past few years, Snowe has announced her retirement and cited the political climate as a reason for her pessimism. She sees blame all around and has not absolved her party from responsibility. But she says that if anything is to change, it will come only through presidential leadership.

“I would hope that he would recognize that he essentially has the capability and the capacity to get it done,” she said. “People expect that of a president. He should be able to use the power of his office to work with Congress in a way they could produce the results that are so desperately needed for the future of our country. . . . Somehow, it has not worked. Perhaps he does not appreciate the dimensions of his own office. I don’t know.”

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You are no longer BFF with John Cusack, Mr. President.

John the Libertarian on September 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Thanks for the picture of the empty chair to go along with this article.

msupertas on September 3, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Let the Delusional Nutballs Convention began!

hillsoftx on September 3, 2012 at 8:08 PM

“And I think for that reason, people of Ohio, even those who like him a lot will say, you know, he is just not up to the job.”

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

OT

Let’s hope this will also help Scott Brown winning re-election to enable GOP to control the senate.

Princess Sitting Bullshat channeled Hillary’s “I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas.” moment by saying at a campaign rally last Saturday: “you probably won’t see me folding laundry.”. It was a swipe at Scott Brown, who was shown in a TV ad featuring his wife and daughters and showing him doing chores like folding laundry.

And to double down on stupid, John Walsh, the Chairman of the MA Democratic Party said in a breakfast event this morning: “We’ve also experienced Scott Brown,” Walsh told the delegates. “We’ve got to say a few good things about him: He handsome, right? He’s still got the coat. He’s still got the truck. He’s a regular guy. I mean, he spent a couple million dollars folding towels on TV to prove he’s an honorary girl. We appreciate that.” He shatfacedly apologized after a few hours.

Scott Brown’s campaign did not let that slide and released this statement:“It seems Professor Warren and her spokesman can’t decide if they are just too good to fold laundry, or if household chores are suitable only for women. Professor Warren should apologize for her own elitist remark, and denounce her spokesman’s insulting comments suggesting folding laundry is a ‘girl’s’ job,” said Angela Davis, the chairwoman of the Brown for Women coalition.

bayview on September 3, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Well after 4 years, 23 million unemployed, higher CPI, and a deluded foreign policy Barack wants you to know he knows what needs done it is already in the prompter from ’08….

so let’s throw another several trillion on the fire and give him another 208 weeks to wreck the nation.

harlekwin15 on September 3, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Like in Janesville,WI? or the 789 dealerships closed by Blightbringer & Co?

hillsoftx on September 3, 2012 at 8:12 PM

More than a disappointment, the current economic stagnation is an intentional strategy to make the majority of Americans too dependent on the central state to ever vote against its growth again. Pretty evil cynical, I know – but what else would you expect from a child of commies who have been waging a war of cultural attrition against the US since the 50′s. McCarthy was right, my friends.

abobo on September 3, 2012 at 8:13 PM

As Democrats head to Charlotte for this week’s convention, Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney is heading back on the campaign trail later this week with a new message: the hope and change that President Barack Obama promised four years ago has left people disappointed…

“It has been a disappointing four years,” Romney said. “And I think for that reason, people of Ohio, even those who like him a lot will say, you know, he is just not up to the job.”

Democratic strategist for the Bill Clinton campaign James Carville coin the phrase that won bill Clinton his election and it is the exact same phrase Mitt Romney should use to batter Team Obama. To quote James Carville “Its the economy STUPID”.

Waking up in Hitler’s Bunker.

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

If you think the auto bailout saved a million jobs in Ohio you’re more full of crap than Christmas turkey.

bgibbs1000 on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 PM

It’s too early for the quote of the day.

moc23 on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Pantload…

Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Merchants of Despair

Seven Percent Solution on September 3, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Is AP heading to the DNC..?

d1carter on September 3, 2012 at 8:15 PM

When you are dealing with a sociopathic narcissist in a position of unbelievable power, that is a recipe for disaster. Complete and total failure on every possible viewable level is what our Dear Leader has accomplished. Change, negative change.

Reducing this great nation to the status of Greece. I’m not talking about ancient Greece here, folks.

electricfunksandwich on September 3, 2012 at 8:16 PM

So the theme of the ECOTUS 2012 is :
I killed Osama
+
I bailed out GM unions
+
Romney is a rich white dude with a dog and a pony
+
I’ll give free contraception and abortions
Anything else, trolls ?

burrata on September 3, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Like in Janesville,WI? or the 789 dealerships closed by Blightbringer & Co?

hillsoftx on September 3, 2012 at 8:12 PM

It’s true that the old GM management team didn’t believe that the company needed to reorganize and restructure. Some people remain true believers despite the abysmal reality of GM’s 2008 balance sheet.

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

If you think the auto bailout saved a million jobs in Ohio you’re more full of crap than Christmas turkey.

bgibbs1000 on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 PM

How many jobs did it save? I never claimed to be an expert on the subject but the auto industry is one of the largest employers in the state by most accounts.

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2012/jun/13/john-kasich/john-kasich-downplays-role-auto-bailouts-ohios-eco/

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Um “no” Buy’em you’re insane he screwed every Delphi worker, and at best bought the idiot UAW about 6 years but do go on….it’s not like I’m from Ohio or anything.

harlekwin15 on September 3, 2012 at 8:20 PM

so let’s throw another several trillion on the fire and give him another 208 weeks to wreck the nation.

harlekwin15 on September 3, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Better idea: Let’s send him home to Ken . . . I mean Hawaii. I hear it’s real purty there this time of year and he can golf year round.

BigAlSouth on September 3, 2012 at 8:20 PM

John the Libertarian on September 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Made me laugh! Excellent observation. I read that rant, too. I’m thinking burnishing the progressive credential in anticipation of Obama loss.

thatsafactjack on September 3, 2012 at 8:21 PM

When does Clinton speak tomorrow. I can’t wait to see him rip Obama to shreds and divide the base.

nobar on September 3, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Bayam: I feel that Delphi workers would disagree with you and President Empty Chair…

I for one AM disappointed…

Khun Joe on September 3, 2012 at 8:25 PM

burrata on September 3, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Bain is now good.

cozmo on September 3, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Election 2012: America Will Never Be the Same

Read it…

… weap, then pass it along.

Seven Percent Solution on September 3, 2012 at 8:26 PM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/dnc-trinkets-include-calendar-comparing-obama-to-jesus-christ/

Barry of Honolulu.

bayview on September 3, 2012 at 8:08 PM

“For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And My glory I will not give to another.” Isaiah 48:11 New American Standard Bible (©1995)

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 8:27 PM

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

And Bayam, bless yo heart, do you think that all those automotive jobs would have disappeared if GM had been allowed to file for bankruptcy? Hell no, dumbazz. GM would have emerged a leaner, meaner competitor if allowed to participate in a managed bankruptcy. All that happened is the union status quo was allowed to remain, with fat pensions adding to vehicle costs, acting against the ability of GM to compete.

How’s the freakin Volt doin these days?

BigAlSouth on September 3, 2012 at 8:29 PM

OT: ‘Green Mile’ star and Chicago native Michael Clarke Duncan dies at age 54
Oh, rats !
RIP Michael !

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Heh. This idiot is quoting politifact here.

Lanceman on September 3, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Bain is now good.

cozmo on September 3, 2012 at 8:25 PM

It is ?
Not a single Bain cancer victim to speak @ DNC, now that is strange :)

burrata on September 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM

OT: ‘Green Mile’ star and Chicago native Michael Clarke Duncan dies at age 54
Oh, rats !
RIP Michael !

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:30 PM

WTF???

Lanceman on September 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Foward- into the past!

profitsbeard on September 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM

OT again

http://news.yahoo.com/actor-crowe-gets-lift-getting-lost-kayaking-041159574.html

We are often shocked to see screen goddesses and supermodels without make-ups, but macho he man doesn’t look the part in real life either. (except for Barry, of course.)

bayview on September 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM

OT: ‘Green Mile’ star and Chicago native Michael Clarke Duncan dies at age 54
Oh, rats !
RIP Michael !

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:30 PM

A couple years ago he went vegan and even did an ad for PETA.

Shoulda stuck to meat.

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM

I have to go back to work tomorrow after 10 days off. :(

My Grandpa always used to say – as GM goes so goes the country. Who knew how right he would be.

gophergirl on September 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM

I guess it was time for all those bondholders who got shafted by obaka to step up to the plate – be patriotic. Get some skin in the game.

I swear, brayam gets more pathetic with this bullsh!t every day. Degenerating into libtard4life. No real intelligence, just parrot rote.

Lanceman on September 3, 2012 at 8:35 PM

The main issue is that we are talking about socialist, a man who does not believe in America the way it was founded, the way it has existed since 1776, and the way the majority of Americans believed and still believe in… The main issue is that we are talking about the most incompetent man to ever be elected President, no previous would even come close to this man utter incompetence… The main issue is that they picked a welfare queens agitator from Chicago who nothing about anything of importance, asked him to read few speeches from a teleprompter and in a perfect storm against Republicans he was elected President in 2008…
However now, everyone can see this man utter incompetence and no matter how much and his media try, they can never hide or change his utterly failed record in they eyes of the majority of voters…
On November 6 2012 the majority of voters are going to ask themselves the simplest and most important question “Do we want for more years of this misery and failure?”… Their answer would be “No, hell No”…

mnjg on September 3, 2012 at 8:35 PM

OT
Lanceman on September 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM

“[Michael Clarke Duncan] suffered a myocardial infarction July 13 and never fully recovered.Publicist Joy Fehily released a statement from Manigault, who was engaged to Duncan, saying the 54-year-old actor died Monday morning in a Los Angeles hospital after nearly two months of treatment.”

:-(
One of our favorites.

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

And so the spin for the DNC in the media begins……

If Obama is NOT up by at least 5 the media will have failed.

Any guesses which will be the first poll to show Obama ahead by at least 5?

I say PPP or Reuters..

PappyD61 on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Oh, puhleeze. The only thing the bailout saved was union pensions. The taxpayers have been shafted for over 21 billion.

chewmeister on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

O/T Saw 2016 yesterday in Green Bay, WI in the early afternoon. The theater was 75% full. Most of the audience was over 65, but there were a few under 60′s there as well. I can only hope the elder vote will be for Romney!

Sasha List on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Is a congressional candidate allowed to ask for campaign contributions during an appearance on cable television? Isn’t that a no-no?

steebo77 on September 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

GM would have emerged a leaner, meaner competitor if allowed to participate in a managed bankruptcy.

Interesting, I’m not an auto industry expert by any means, but I failed to read a single report in 2008 from industry analysts that suggested normal bankruptcy as a viable path. Your assumption that bankrupcty court is a silver bullet for companies with huge operating losses and inadequate liquidity to continue as going concerns couldn’t be more wrong.

This is why George Bush approved the first set of automaker loans, providing Obama with the chance to complete a much larger, and more complex bailout.

Most third party observers see a GM that is far more leaner and meaner- I’d like to know what facts you’re basing your comments on.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

I say PPP or Reuters..

PappyD61 on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Pew, either.

steebo77 on September 3, 2012 at 8:41 PM

One of our favorites.

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

He was a large fellow. I’m surprised Hulk Hogan is still kicking. Those little hearts can’t take too much. I’ll prolly go the same way.

Lanceman on September 3, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Oh, puhleeze. The only thing the bailout saved was union pensions. The taxpayers have been shafted for over 21 billion.

chewmeister on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Yes, the government will never collect 21 bill in excise tax, corp tax, and income tax from a corporation that generates $160 bill in annual revenue. How terrible!

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Am I the only one who thinks we’ve all stumbled onto the set of Groundhog Day 2?

platypus on September 3, 2012 at 8:43 PM

RIP Michael Clarke Duncan, I loved him in The Green Mile he epitomized the gentle giant.

D-fusit on September 3, 2012 at 8:44 PM

If Obama is NOT up by at least 5 the media will have failed.

Any guesses which will be the first poll to show Obama ahead by at least 5?

I say PPP or Reuters..

PappyD61 on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Ahead of the DNC gathering in Charlotte, a number of organizations are out today with new polls on the race in North Carolina. PPP has the race in the Tarheel State tied, although they use a D+13 sample to get there. High Point University uses a D+8 sample and shows Romney with a 3 point lead. Elon University and the Charlotte Observer have a poll with a D+6 sample and show Romney with a 4 point lead. Do you sense a pattern here?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/03/nc-romney-18-point-lead-on-economy

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Most third party observers see a GM that is far more leaner and meaner- I’d like to know what facts you’re basing your comments on.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Yeah Buy’em….

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/12/chart-of-the-day-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-chevrolet-cruze/#more-422951

Keep on plugging buddy

harlekwin15 on September 3, 2012 at 8:45 PM

I will TRY to watch the convention, but I confess, I hope my TV makes it. (I may get violent and throw stuff at it.) I tend to get angry listening to the lies and bullshiit. I definitely talk to the TV. Hope the BP can take it. If not, I will rely on my fellow Hot Gassians to help out! Thanks in advance for the assist!

Sasha List on September 3, 2012 at 8:45 PM

And so the spin for the DNC in the media begins……

If Obama is NOT up by at least 5 the media will have failed.

Any guesses which will be the first poll to show Obama ahead by at least 5?

I say PPP or Reuters..

PappyD61 on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

It’ll be Gallup. They’ve already set the stage with no change in their poll in the last 5 days So obvious it’s obnoxious. It’ll start Thursday and go through Sunday. And because the attack will be on Romney you’ll see his numbers drop, maybe even the marxist the first day will drop to set up the meteoric rise we’ll see after the marxist speaks. By Sunday it’ll be 49%-42%.

bgibbs1000 on September 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

You tell God the Father it was a kindness you done. I know you hurtin’ and worryin’, I can feel it on you, but you oughta quit on it now. Because I want it over and done. I do. I’m tired, boss. Tired of bein’ on the road, lonely as a sparrow in the rain. Tired of not ever having me a buddy to be with, or tell me where we’s coming from or going to, or why. Mostly I’m tired of people being ugly to each other. I’m tired of all the pain I feel and hear in the world everyday. There’s too much of it. It’s like pieces of glass in my head all the time. Can you understand? ~John Coffey

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120689/quotes

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Yes, the government will never collect 21 bill in excise tax, corp tax, and income tax from a corporation that generates $160 bill in annual revenue. How terrible!

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Strange, according to Obama, corporations don’t pay taxes.

sentinelrules on September 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

How many jobs did it save? I never claimed to be an expert on the subject but the auto industry is one of the largest employers in the state by most accounts.

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2012/jun/13/john-kasich/john-kasich-downplays-role-auto-bailouts-ohios-eco/

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Well, first of all, since “Politifact” has begun to show its stripes as “PolitiObamaShill“, most egregiously in the most recent Ryan comments, your link is weak tea at best.

Secondly, even accepting your premise that 1 million jobs were saved (which is absurd, those jobs would have either been kept in a streamlined managed bankruptcy or in a merged GM/other company re-alignment), the cost of that 1 million jobs was ensuring that investors will no longer invest in company bonds in the future since the preferred status of those bonds was unilaterally usurped by Obama in favor of taking care of the unions in direct violation of contract law. That alone will have a chilling effect upon future expansion or growth of any companies because investors now have no assurance that legal obligations will be honored. So that million jobs saved was at the expense of tens of millions in future jobs.

AZfederalist on September 3, 2012 at 8:47 PM

If you think the auto bailout saved a million jobs in Ohio you’re more full of crap than Christmas turkey.

bgibbs1000 on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 PM

..I agree with your sentiments but could I politely ask to be excused from your next Christmas dinner? I prefer the oyster stuffing, thank you.

:-X

The War Planner on September 3, 2012 at 8:47 PM

O/T Saw 2016 yesterday in Green Bay, WI in the early afternoon. The theater was 75% full. Most of the audience was over 65, but there were a few under 60′s there as well. I can only hope the elder vote will be for Romney!

Sasha List on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Saw it during the week of its premiere in Houston, the first and only theater. It was a packed house, with about half under 30 I’d guess. Now that it’s gone general distribution last weekend in some 1800 theaters, it would be interesting to know the age demos. One thing is certain, it’s done $20 million in box office since it’s release a few weeks ago, a record setter for documentaries.

I urge everyone to bring their liberal or apolitical friends to see it under whatever pretense you can. They will not leave the theater ready to vote for Romney, but they will not be voting Obama this time, and most will decide to stay home in all likelihood. The movie is that strong.

TXUS on September 3, 2012 at 8:48 PM

As Democrats head to Charlotte for this week’s convention mass gathering of morons and psychopaths

VorDaj on September 3, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Sasha List on September 3, 2012 at 8:45 PM

I hear ya.
I’ll TRY to watch some on cspan.org/dnc, but it’ll place my HUBBY’s laptop in jeopardy, so I’ll have to behave.

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:49 PM

I’ll prolly go the same way.

Lanceman on September 3, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Here I come, ‘Lizabeth.

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Yeah. Yeah, dat’s right, uh, disappointin’. Like a shovel up da side’s da head. It’s disappointin’,

minnesoter on September 3, 2012 at 8:49 PM

I hear ya.
I’ll TRY to watch some on cspan.org/dnc, but it’ll place my HUBBY’s laptop in jeopardy, so I’ll have to behave.

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:49 PM

I’m not watching – my blood pressure can’t take it.

gophergirl on September 3, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Evenin’ all.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 3, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

At what cost? Like many of those jobs would not have been saved in bankruptcy vs. a bailout. How many jobs would have been created at the factories operated by GMs competitors? Somehow in this world of “fairness” it seems odd that your ilk cars not for those that invested their time and money in the Hondas, Toyotas, etc etc of the world. They should have been able to reap the rewards of operating a sound business. So much for the left and their cries about corporate welfare.

You sure love to carry the water. You faux intellectual types are too entertaining to watch.

CW on September 3, 2012 at 8:50 PM

How many jobs did it save? I never claimed to be an expert on the subject but the auto industry is one of the largest employers in the state by most accounts.

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2012/jun/13/john-kasich/john-kasich-downplays-role-auto-bailouts-ohios-eco/

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Relative to allowing them to go bankrupt and shed the unsupportable union contracts, the bailouts probably cost a lot of jobs. Without the pension obligations, work rules, and overpriced labor, they would have been able to hire a lot more people.

Count to 10 on September 3, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Pic of the Day: Being There

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M2RB: James Taylor

Resist We Much on September 3, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Me love japanese auto unions long time. 247,000 miles long.

wolly4321 on September 3, 2012 at 8:51 PM

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Sniff.

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:51 PM

President Obama’s challenge this week at the Democratic National Convention is to reignite the flame ignite the hate

VorDaj on September 3, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

You are full of sh*t… The auto bailout did not save 1 million job tied to the auto industry in Ohio, not even close… And GM is going to get bankrupted again plus the taxpayers lost tens of billions of dollars in this bailout…

mnjg on September 3, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Yes, the government will never collect 21 bill in excise tax, corp tax, and income tax from a corporation that generates $160 bill in annual revenue. How terrible!

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Hmmm was this not a company that was failing and was bailed out?

Wow you’re so stupid.

CW on September 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM

If you think the auto bailout saved a million jobs in Ohio you’re more full of crap than Christmas turkey.

bgibbs1000 on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 PM

..I agree with your sentiments but could I politely ask to be excused from your next Christmas dinner? I prefer the oyster stuffing, thank you.

:-X

The War Planner on September 3, 2012 at 8:47 PM

The roasted chickens had an unusual stuffing — $150,000 worth of cocaine, according to Nigerian police.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/09/03/nigeria-uncovers-cocaine-stuffed-roasted-chicken/

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Strange, according to Obama, corporations don’t pay taxes.

sentinelrules on September 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Correctomundo

chewmeister on September 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM

On Saturday, the Reuters/IPSOS tracking poll had Barry at 44 and Romney at 43 (MOE 2.5%), and Reuters and the rest of the media, loudly proclaimed that Romney had no bounce.

Yesterday, it was Romney 45 and Barry 45, and Reuters was very quiet about that poll. There was no demographic breakdown, but you know there HAD TO BE a significant skew for the Dems because Romney was leading by a fairly large margin among independents.

The result of Reuters/IPSOS tracking poll for today was nowhere to be found on the Reuters web site ( where I looked at the actual poll in the last 2 days.)

bayview on September 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Pantload…

Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Merchants of Despair

Seven Percent Solution on September 3, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Wow… Bill Whittle sure let loose with both barrels in that one…

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 8:53 PM

It’ll start Thursday and go through Sunday. And because the attack will be on Romney you’ll see his numbers drop, maybe even the marxist the first day will drop to set up the meteoric rise we’ll see after the marxist speaks. By Sunday it’ll be 49%-42%.

bgibbs1000 on September 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

..wonder if he can fill the BofA venue? Wonder what the Berlin Airlift-like busing logistics and/or inducements will be to get the butts in the seats? Wonder if he will be able to survive the August jobs report released NINE HOURS later.

If he gets a pass on the empty stadium or the gyrations of a rigged speech AND/OR if the BLS numbers come up “unexpectedly” robust, then they will howl about this “miracle turnaround” and hoe he’s “the comeback kid”. We know this guy’s got the nation by the short hairs and we have a dictator on our hands.

The War Planner on September 3, 2012 at 8:54 PM

I have been disgusted by many things over the last 4 years but this REALLY offends me. January 20 cannot get here soon enough.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/09/02/dnc_2012_still_kitschin_.html

txmomof6 on September 3, 2012 at 8:54 PM

bayview on September 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM

What’s the use of Reuters/Ipsos having a tracking poll if the results are sporadically reported? At least with Rasmussen, Gallup, and The Economist/YouGov the numbers are consistently reported, and in the same place each day/week.

steebo77 on September 3, 2012 at 8:54 PM

I can’t wait to hears Sandra’s pearls of wisdom./

wolly4321 on September 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Hmmm was this not a company that was failing and was bailed out?

Wow you’re so stupid.

CW on September 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Naw, it’s talking about all those future taxes that will be collected when everyone’s forced to buy a Volt.

chewmeister on September 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM

The sense that Obama simply won’t sacrifice his brand, or image as a winner, for the greater Democratic good is widespread in Democratic circles. Over the past four years, he has led his party through the political wars, including some they didn’t want to fight…

Ya think?

When Obama took office, Democrats held:

• 56 Senate seats. It is 51 now (plus two independents who align mostly with the Democrats).

• 257 seats in the House of Representatives. It is 190 now (there are also three vacancies for seats last held by Democrats).

• 29 of the 50 governorships. It is 20 now.

• 4,073 state legislative seats. It is 3,319 now.

Can Democrats really argue that they are better off than they were 4 years ago?

Resist We Much on September 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 8:49 PM

DAVID !!!!!! :’(

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Listen liberal scum, both GM and Chrysler have a total of 250,000 employees worldwide so even if 50,000 of them work in Ohio, I really doubt that it is that high, there is no way that one million total worker in Ohio are related to the auto industry… Go f*** yourself liberal liar…

mnjg on September 3, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Sasha List on September 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

My daughter and her husband went to see it this afternoon.

She is the most non-political person I know. Her response was “I don’t know how he ever became the president.”

Barred on September 3, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Me love japanese auto unions long time. 247,000 miles long.

wolly4321 on September 3, 2012 at 8:51 PM

..do you honk your horny?

:-D

The War Planner on September 3, 2012 at 8:58 PM

November blowout. Minimum 42 states Romney.

platypus on September 3, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Most third party observers see a GM that is far more leaner and meaner- I’d like to know what facts you’re basing your comments on.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

“Today, “I am GM, hear me roar” is again losing market share, and its stock, of which taxpayers own 26 percent, was trading Thursday morning at $21, below the $33 price our investor in chief paid for it and below the $53 price it would have to reach to enable taxpayers to recover the entire $49.5 billion bailout. Roaring GM’s growth is in China.”

Liberalism, As We Know It

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Resist We Much on September 3, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Obama isn’t a democrat. He’s an Obamacrat.

Why haven’t the Dems realized this? He is killing their party.

Ozwitch on September 3, 2012 at 8:59 PM

“Who killed the hope?” Jones wondered. “And what happened?”

Obaam’s mask came off. And you helped pull it off.

VorDaj on September 3, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Heh. I found Brayam.

Lanceman on September 3, 2012 at 9:01 PM

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 8:49 PM

DAVID !!!!!! :’(

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Have you ever watched Sanford and Son?

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Obaam’s mask came off. And you helped pull it off.

VorDaj on September 3, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Like this?

platypus on September 3, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Wonder if he will be able to survive the August jobs report released NINE HOURS later.

The War Planner on September 3, 2012 at 8:54 PM

… and just who is in charge of the BLS? Yeah, I would expect “unexpected” good news on the labor front Friday. To be incrementally revised downward in subsequent weeks, but at a rate slow enough to not harm the post-convention bounce for Jugears.

AZfederalist on September 3, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Good point from Ronmey, the auto bailout saved just under 1 million jobs tied to the auto industry in Ohio. Hardly any benefit to Ohio voters or the Ohio economy.

bayam on September 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Where did you come up with that number? GM has an assembly plant in Lordstown, some Delco supply plants in the Dayton area and a couple of other plants around the state, Chrysler has a Jeep plant in Toledo. GM closed assembly plants at Norwood (Cincinnati) and Moraine (Dayton). Ford and Honda plants weren’t affected. 1 million jobs saved in Ohio is a bullsh!t figure, even by your standards.

bw222 on September 3, 2012 at 9:05 PM

I can’t wait to hears Sandra’s pearls of wisdom./

wolly4321 on September 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM

I understand she’ll be wearing IUD-shaped earings, kinda Zulu style, so I hope they don’t detract from her speech too much. But, the condom-shaped pierced-eyebrow ring might.

TXUS on September 3, 2012 at 9:05 PM

All of which leaves the question of what would happen in a second Obama term.

Obama will assume the role of Child-King as Head of State.

His mission will be to protect and reward those who voted for him while opposing and punishing those who did not. His campaign rhetoric essentially says this.

He will issue executive orders by the truck load, disregarding existing laws and the Constitution, daring the Courts and the Legislature to do something about it. And he will veto every Republican legislative initiative that might make its way to his desk.

farsighted on September 3, 2012 at 9:05 PM

DAVID !!!!!! :’(

pambi on September 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM

And Lanceman was joking.

davidk on September 3, 2012 at 9:05 PM

I’m not watching – my blood pressure can’t take it.

gophergirl on September 3, 2012 at 8:50 PM

TV in my house is off tonight for the first time in months. Three more days of this quiet will be strange, but probably needed.

22044 on September 3, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Hel-looooo!

annoyinglittletwerp on September 3, 2012 at 9:07 PM

I can’t wait to hearsgive Sandra’s a pearls of wisdom necklace./

wolly4321 The Lanceman on September 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Lanceman on September 3, 2012 at 9:07 PM

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