Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on September 2, 2012 by Allahpundit

U.S. intelligence analysts watching for indicators of Israeli military action recently reported that there are signs the Jewish state plans an attack against Iran in October.

The Obama administration, meanwhile, is preparing to provide logistical support for a military strike but is pressing Israel to delay any action until the administration’s policy of sanctions have had more time to work, and that any attack would be put off until after the November presidential election…

Any Israeli military attack is expected to be carried out with little or no warning, which has meant stepped up monitoring of Israel by U.S. intelligence agencies for all indicators of an impending attack.

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Israel’s prime minister on Sunday urged the international community to get tougher against Iran, saying that without a “clear red line,” Tehran will not halt its nuclear program…

“The [new UN] report confirms what I have been saying for a long time – the international sanctions are burdening Iran’s economy, but they are not delaying the development of the Iranian nuclear program,” Netanyahu said.

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Iran dramatically increased its production of a more enriched form of uranium in recent months, U.N. inspectors reported Thursday, suggesting that the country’s nuclear facilities were ramping up their output even as Iran’s leaders engaged in international negotiations on possible curbs to its nuclear program…

The report, based on routine monitoring of Iran’s nuclear facilities, documented a sizable jump in Iran’s stockpile of uranium enriched to 20 percent, a level that can be converted relatively easily to the more highly enriched uranium needed for weapons. The report said Iran has 255 pounds of uranium enriched at 20 percent, up from 159 pounds in May.

But the IAEA also found that Iran had converted much of the new material to metal form for use in a nuclear research reactor. Once the conversion has taken place, the uranium can’t be further enriched to weapons-grade material, Obama administration officials said.

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Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu got into a diplomatic shouting match with US Ambassador Dan Shapiro over US President Barack Obama’s handling of Iran’s nuclear program, saying “time has run out” for diplomacy, Yediot Aharonot cited a source as saying on Friday…

A source that participated in the meeting said that a particularly angry and stressed Netanyahu began a tirade against the US president, attacking him for not doing enough on Iran. “Instead of pressuring Iran in an effective way, Obama and his people are pressuring us not to attack the nuclear facilities,” the source quoted Netanyahu as saying…

The American ambassador is said to have responded politely but firmly, telling Netanyahu that he was distorting Obama’s position. Obama promised not to allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons, he explained, and left all options on the table, including military options.

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Seven months ago, Israel and the United States postponed a massive joint military exercise that was originally set to go forward just as concerns were brimming that Israel would launch a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. The exercise was rescheduled for late October, and appears likely to go forward on the cusp of the U.S. presidential election. But it won’t be nearly the same exercise. Well-placed sources in both countries have told TIME that Washington has greatly reduced the scale of U.S. participation, slashing by more than two-thirds the number of American troops going to Israel and reducing both the number and potency of missile interception systems at the core of the joint exercise.

“Basically what the Americans are saying is, ‘We don’t trust you,’” a senior Israeli military official tells TIME…

In the current political context, the U.S. logic is transparent, says Israeli analyst Efraim Inbar. “I think they don’t want to insinuate that they are preparing something together with the Israelis against Iran – that’s the message,” says Inbar, director of the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar-Ilan University. “Trust? We don’t trust them. They don’t trust us. All these liberal notions! Even a liberal president like Obama knows better.”

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A senior [Israeli] government official on Saturday characterized as “strange” a recent statement by US military chief Gen. Martin Dempsey that he would not want to be “complicit” in an Israeli attack on Iran.

“Dempsey’s comments are strange in that they would seem to contradict the continual statements from the White House that the security and defense cooperation between Israel and the US has never been as close,” the senior official said…

Amid the disagreements between Jerusalem and Washington over whether Iran needed to be stopped before it had acquired all components for a bomb (Israel’s position), or only once it started putting the bomb together, [Israeli intel chief Dan] Meridor said US President Barack Obama’s statement that he was committed to preventing Iran from getting a bomb, and would not be satisfied by containment of a nuclear Iran, needed to be taken seriously.

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Israel’s vice prime minister Moshe Yaalon said on Friday he feared Iran did not believe it faced a real military threat from the outside world because of mixed messages from foreign powers.

“We have an exchange of views, including with our friends in the United States, who in our opinion, are in part responsible for this feeling in Iran,” he told Israel’s 100FM radio station.

“There are many cracks in the ring closing tighter on Iran. We criticize this,” he said, also singling out U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon for travelling to Tehran this week.

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“There is definitely a narrative in the media right now – I’d say an overheated one – about tension between the US and Israel over Iran,” [U.S. ambassador Dan] Shapiro said, adding that this narrative does not “reflect the very close coordination and very intense work we’ve done together to address an issue that we perceive the same way, which is the importance of preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.”

Asked why the US did not give the Iranians a clear ultimatum – stop the nuclear program “or else” – Shapiro replied: “I think there is no mistaking what the US is prepared to do.” Shapiro said that Obama and Netanyahu, as well as their “teams,” speak regularly, and that the relationship “at the top” is “just what it needs to be.”

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Mr. Dayan’s assessment seems to buttress the theory that the collective saber rattling is part of a campaign to pressure the Obama administration and the international community, rather than an indication of the imminence of an Israeli strike. Many analysts here believe that hawkish statements by Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Barak this spring led to the harsher sanctions now in place, and that this is essentially Round 2…

While Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Barak have been criticized as “messianic” in their thinking on the Iranian nuclear issue and are widely viewed as ready, if not eager, to take military action to stop it, Mr. Dayan said they would prefer that the United States led any attack, even if that meant waiting until after the November presidential election. But “they have to make the decision whether to strike or not before November,” he said, so they need to hear from Mr. Obama “in the coming two weeks, in the coming month.”

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Almost four years into their partnership, the two most important players — Bibi and Barack — still seem out of whack with one another both personally and on some key policy issues.

What’s happening here? I’ve got a pretty simple diagnosis: Netanyahu’s policies and suspicions about American intentions have combined with Obama’s seemingly emotionless view of Israel to spell trouble. The absence of a common enterprise makes matters worse.

The Iranian challenge might still provide a grand reunion between the two parties. But if history is any guide, serious clashes between Israeli prime ministers and American presidents are not resolved by reconciliation but by the departure of one or the other. That may mean we’re in for an extended period of turbulence: I’m betting that in this case, both Bibi and Barack may be around for the long haul.


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The rules are the rules. You have provided no evidence that Ron Paul cheated.

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 4:25 AM

You just don’t get it. This is not a game.

There is one, and only one reason to elect a primary candidate, and that is to avoid the spoiler effect that comes in an election where someone can win with a plurality.

We have to have some way of coming together to pick someone even though we all disagree on a lot of things. Sometimes, the candidate we pick is not very good, but he’s the best we can do this time.

The RNC establishment will be tolerated if and only if they ensure that the will of the primary electorate is satisfied. The establishment does a lot of things that anger us, but the one thing that ordinary republican voters will NOT tolerate is the nomination of someone who has vastly fewer votes. This is one time when the establishment is doing its damned job. Its job is to stop people like the Ron Paul supports from disenfranchising the rest of us. We said loud and clear with the primary election that we didn’t want him. Period.

When the republican primary electorate coalesces around someone, even a RINO like Romney, the RNC had damned well better nominate that person. That is the ONLY reason we have these rules, and they absolutely must be changed if there is even the slightest chance that they will allow someone who did not get many votes to receive the nomination.

RINO in Name Only on September 3, 2012 at 4:54 AM

I remember when Floating Rock was halfway sensible, and I hate to concede even one vote to the Destroyer.

It’s worth a try, no matter.

This is for keeps.

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 4:52 AM

Oh, don’t get it confused, when the subject isn’t Ron Paul or politics, he still is sensible, well for the most part, and it is worth trying.

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 4:57 AM

The RNC establishment will be tolerated if and only if they ensure that the will of the primary electorate is satisfied. The establishment does a lot of things that anger us, but the one thing that ordinary republican voters will NOT tolerate is the nomination of someone who has vastly fewer votes. This is one time when the establishment is doing its damned job. Its job is to stop people like the Ron Paul supports from disenfranchising the rest of us. We said loud and clear with the primary election that we didn’t want him. Period.

When the republican primary electorate coalesces around someone, even a RINO like Romney, the RNC had damned well better nominate that person. That is the ONLY reason we have these rules, and they absolutely must be changed if there is even the slightest chance that they will allow someone who did not get many votes to receive the nomination.

RINO in Name Only on September 3, 2012 at 4:54 AM

This is absolutely true, a lot of us Tea Party people are damned pissed about the changes to rules 12 and 15, but not because Romney pulled a fast one, because those rules affect US as well as the fascist bastard Ronulans.

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 5:03 AM

Oh, don’t get it confused, when the subject isn’t Ron Paul or politics, he still is sensible, well for the most part, and it is worth trying.

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 4:57 AM

You are correct, and the “halfway” on my part was a cheap shot. I respect Floating Rock’s positions on most subjects, but I cannot see how anyone who has lived through the last 3.75 years can seriously consider that four more years of “The Lightworker” won’t be anything but an unmitigated disaster for our nation, no matter the alternative.

The last I heard, Joe Stalin is dead, and Lenin’s not feeling so well. No way does another day of Obarmy get justified because one doesn’t agree with all of the Romney positions. NO WAY. Too much has been lost already of our great nation’s ideals and pillars of strength.

It’s time to do a 180. Our forefathers’ legacy and our fathers’ and mothers’ sacrifices, determination, and devotion demand it.

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 5:05 AM

blink on September 3, 2012 at 5:03 AM

He cant answer that until someone further up the Ronulan food chain tells him the best answer.

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 5:05 AM

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 4:57 AM

You are correct, and the “halfway” on my part was a cheap shot. I respect Floating Rock’s positions on most subjects, but I cannot see how anyone who has lived through the last 3.75 years can seriously consider that four more years of “The Lightworker” won’t be anything but an unmitigated disaster for our nation, no matter the alternative.

The last I heard, Joe Stalin is dead, and Lenin’s not feeling so well. No way does another day of Obarmy get justified because one doesn’t agree with all of the Romney positions. NO WAY. Too much has been lost already of our great nation’s ideals and pillars of strength.

It’s time to do a 180. Our forefathers’ legacy and our fathers’ and mothers’ sacrifices, determination, and devotion demand it.

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 5:05 AM

Politically it seems that he has surrendered to the philosophical ideology that the end justifies the means. We all know that our Republic is in trouble. Where we differ is in the means that we are willing to apply to correct that situation.

Most of us on the right understand that the philosophical ideology that the end justifies the means is the single most pernicious and evil political ideology ever invented by mankind. It was the driving force behind Marxism and the force that Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot all believed would give them the ability to reshape the world according to their visions. It has been the philosophical ideology that the most ruthless tyrants and dictators in human history have used to justify the worst atrocities humanity has ever seen.

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 5:16 AM

Well, hell. I give up on convincing someone who has their “mind” made up. All I can say is this:

It’s time to put petty shit aside and do what’s right for what is left of our nation. Period.

If that’s not enough to get someone to at least reconsider, then their mind was closed from the start.

Here’s a little distraction, just for the seriously capitalist fun of it:

Enjoy.

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 5:33 AM

It is sad, especially as a proud American, to admit that our current government has next to NO FOREIGN POLICY, except for apologizing, polarizing our allies, enticing our enemies, emboldening the MB — who is probably our worst enemy going forward into the near and not-so-near future, and cozying up to the likes of Putin, who is playing our CIC like a cheap fiddle.

God save us from idiocy and infantile, undeserved blind trust in our would-be destroyers. (and from our so-called leaders, most of all.)

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 5:53 AM

Politically it seems that he has surrendered to the philosophical ideology that the end justifies the means. We all know that our Republic is in trouble. Where we differ is in the means that we are willing to apply to correct that situation.

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 5:16 AM

You guys are so full of crap it’s not even worth responding too. The saying, “the ends justifies the means” applies to people who think cheating is OK because their cause is so self righteous and great, even if in fact their cause is based in large part on hatred and projection. Obama is bad, but in fact he’s literally not very much different than Romney, if you simply examine their records. Of all the politicians in American, Obama and Romney are by far the closest match. If we are in such dire straights and the very existence of America is in peril, as some of you claim, then obviously the thing to do isn’t to nudge the tiller a little to one side or the other, is it? That makes no sense! No, if Obama is so bad we need somebody who is a lot different, not the closest possible match.

You can’t have it both ways. It’s similar to how half the Romney supporters say that he had nothing to do with Romneycare, that the Democrats practically had a gun to his head and made him do it, while the other half of Romney supporters say it is one of his proudest accomplishments, that’s why he had a special signing ceremony, and is the one thing he has not flip/flopped on one or more times.

You guys can smear me, if there are any objective readers that read these comments I know they will side with me even if they don’t support Ron Paul.

Try as you might, this is not about Ron Paul. This rule change affects all of the grass roots. Almost everybody should care, even Democrats. It should scare them a bit too. The Republican Party is no longer within the bounds of civil politics.

These rule changes would have stopped Reagan from ever being President. If some of you don’t care about that fact then I guess I don’t really care about your opinion. If you want to try to make that about Ron Paul, you are only attempting slight of hand.

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 5:57 AM

The last time I called myself Republican was when Reagan was in office. I was and independent when the first Bush ran for President. Arms for hostages is what turned me off, actually, I agree with the early Reagan who said no deals with terrorists. In hindsight I wonder if Reagan was already suffering from the affects of his Alzheimers and it may have been more Bush’s doing. But I liked Reagan until then. Not the Bush’s.

If these rule changes stand which would have shut Reagan out—if Reagan isn’t good enough for the Republican Party, then I’m with Reagan. I didn’t leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me!

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 6:03 AM

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 5:57 AM

If “The ONE he himself has been waiting for” wins again, and succeeds in redistributing us into a shadow of our former selves, then you can shake your own hand.

Cutting your nose off to spite your own face is no answer. The One In Chief is not a friend of America, or even the idea of a Democratic Republic. He wants to tear us apart, and he’s got a hell of a head-start.

How can you justify anything but total opposition to this destructive would-be dictator that is Obarmy?

Look at his history of dodging, circumventing, and flatly ignoring our laws and our Constitution in the implementation of his agenda.

How can anyone who believes in our founding principles ignore these assaults on our basic foundations?

It would be to laugh were it not so deadly, irreversibly serious.

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 6:08 AM

It’s time to put petty shit aside and do what’s right for what is left of our nation. Period.

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 5:33 AM

Dude, cheating the grass roots out of the political process with a rigged vote is not petty! Vote rigging is un-American! If you think that is petty then it only proves that you are not worth taking seriously and your party is unworthy of having power over peoples lives. You can’t cheat people out of their votes and then expect them to obey your command and vote for their new master.

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 6:10 AM

Floating Rock was never going to vote for anyone other than Ron Paul or Obama.

blink on September 3, 2012 at 5:12 AM

Bzzzzt!!! As I’ve already pointed out you are a total freaking liar. I’m a Gary Johnson supporter and have been for months.

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 6:12 AM

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 6:03 AM

Even if you hate the G.O.P., and hate Romney, it is still incumbent upon you as an American to oppose the present Presider. He has done more in three-plus years to dismantle our Constitution’s authority, to undermine our system of checks and balances, and to attempt to ridicule and demean the other two branches of government than all of the other administrations in our history.

C’mon, man. Get past your bitterness over your would-be nominee’s demise and get behind our nation’s future. The choice couldn’t be plainer if it were stamped on opposite sides of a coin.

Vote for your country, not for your hurt feelings. Good God, man, this is for keeps.

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 6:14 AM

Well, hell. I give up on convincing someone who has their “mind” made up. All I can say is this:

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 5:33 AM

Sorry I didn’t respond to some of your posts, but I had already been going for a few hours before you sort of kicked into gear and happened to stop paying as much attention about that time. No disrespect intended, I appreciate the time you spent to respond even if I disagree. I’m disappointed you are defending and minimizing the cheating but at least you’re somebody who I’ve been allied with in the past on many occasions, unlike a lot of the venomous Romney supporters who weren’t around back before ’10 in the tea party hay day, and before.

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 6:20 AM

Listen, FR, my personal choices for the (R) nominee haven’t made it to the general for untold years. That doesn’t mean that I get my ass up on my shoulders and toss my country under the bus over my hurt feelings.

Think.

Leave the boo-hoo baby nonsense to the other party, and/or quit pretending you’re anything but a RonPaulite sore-loser nutter who can’t handle the truth.

Gawdamighty, get your priorities in order. Please.

That is all. I have no more patience for such irresponsible unpatriotic nonsense. I think that part of you believes your baloney, but I also think that the better part knows better but can’t get past your ego.

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 6:24 AM

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 6:14 AM

The difference between us is that I think Bush was nearly as bad as Obama, and fear Romney will be even worse. The GOP just cheated me out of representation in the Party. There’s absolutely no way in hell I’ll ever vote for Romney. I’m going to vote against him, I have to, Romney is a threat to my future just like Obama. Voting for either one is like selling out my own future. It’s would be like voting for my own indentured servitude. That’s nuts. I’m not a boomer, I have nothing at all to gain from voting for Romney.

Anyway, it’s late and I’m turning in for the night. I did read several of your comments but we’ll just have to agree to disagree for tonight.

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 6:27 AM

You know in your heart of hearts, FloatingRock, that voting for a faded felt hat would be better than voting for the present joke of a leader that we have now.

I understand your frustration, especially with the tomfoolery that went on around the Rule 12 and 15 imbroglio. I think that the Rule 15 compromise would be adequate absent the Rule 12 dodge, but that is for another day.

With all of their faults, the Republican nominees for President and especially for the Senate need to win in November for our country to have a half of a chance to heal and dig slowly out of our economic pit. We can work locally and through our states’ machinery to undo the worst of the national G.O.P.’s chicanery.

It’s the only way we get it done without irreversible damage to our country, and that’s tenuous at best.

Get past the feelings and use logic, FR. We need all hands on deck now more than ever.

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 6:33 AM

Good night and good morning, FloatingRock. Please take time to reconsider soonest. We need your vote, and we need you out there pulling for our future in your own neighborhood, workplace, bars, stores, etc.

A vote for Obarmy is not a solution; it is a continuation and multiplication of the problems.

Think it over.

—————————————-Sincerely,

————————————————————HBJ

hillbillyjim on September 3, 2012 at 6:37 AM

a little early for an intervention, isn’t it fellas?/

ted c on September 3, 2012 at 6:49 AM

OmahaConservative on September 3, 2012 at 7:41 AM

couldn’t watch more than a minute. he sounds too much like romney.

renalin on September 3, 2012 at 7:52 AM

While there are some folks here who were diehard Romney supporters from the get-go, for the most part the majority of us are exactly like you.

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 4:53 AM

I think you vastly underestimate how many HotAir readers were for Romney from the beginning. Yes, as you point out, Romney was the overwhelming, clear choice of primary voters (and thank goodness for that), but I also think a lot of readers knew all along that Romney was quite obviously the best choice, but didn’t feel the need to go ranting and raving about it 24/7. The kind of abuse the outspoken Romney supporters faced early on in these comment sections from the diehard, look-how-conservative-I-am types might have led them to not even bother engaging with some of these abusive people. I know that, in my own case, seeing how Romney supporters were shouted down by a handful of crazies inspired me, as a Romney supporter, to be as confrontational and brash as possible, as a way to throw it right back in their faces.

These kinds of political websites attract a special kind of person who generally listens to talk radio and who devotes a significant amount of energy to following the political news cycle. When other candidates besides Romney were each given their chance, and pushed by talk radio at times, to be the trendy “conservative” alternative, I think a lot of readers didn’t want to speak out here and praise Romney, lest they be seen as out-of-step with the cool conservative group. But sometimes there was no rhyme or reason to who the trendy new candidate each month was. And how many of you REALLY believed that Santorum had a superior conservative record on fiscal issues, or that Newt Gingrich, with his outrageous OWS attacks, was the “true” conservative, or even electable? Let’s be real. We all knew there were only a few serious contenders, with Perry and Pawlenty being the others. After Pawlenty flamed out and Perry self-imploded, well… the choice was crystal clear. Oh, and I don’t put an unelectable gimmick like Sarah Palin in the same group with these serious candidates. Sometimes the loons and the crazies on here drown out the voices others, giving a false sense of how many people here support who or what.

In the end, we ended up with a stellar candidate who has exactly the background and skills we need right now. Romney was my #1 choice from the beginning, I AM VERY PROUD TO SAY, and there are many more on here like me than you could imagine. :-) Many of us may have kept a low profile and preferred a more low key stance of quiet confidence than the non-stop whining you saw from others.

bluegill on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 AM

Well, this is a surprise. ADults conversing about Adult topics in QOTD.

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Granted, it’s not about the actual QOTD’s, which concern, quite possibly, the single most important issue of the day and one which could actually change life as we know it permanently, but it’s a damn sight better than rock videos.

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 8:43 AM

Granted, it’s not about the actual QOTD’s, which concern, quite possibly, the single most important issue of the day and one which could actually change life as we know it permanently, OVERNIGHT but it’s a damn sight better than rock videos.

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 8:47 AM

bluegill on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 AM

your post is too long to read. i assume your doing the devil’s work.

am i right?

renalin on September 3, 2012 at 9:13 AM

bluegill=conjuring up romneys name in every thread. boo!

renalin on September 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 5:16 AM

You guys are so full of crap it’s not even worth responding too. The saying, “the ends justifies the means” applies to people who think cheating is OK because their cause is so self righteous and great, even if in fact their cause is based in large part on hatred and projection. Obama is bad, but in fact he’s literally not very much different than Romney, if you simply examine their records. Of all the politicians in American, Obama and Romney are by far the closest match. If we are in such dire straights and the very existence of America is in peril, as some of you claim, then obviously the thing to do isn’t to nudge the tiller a little to one side or the other, is it? That makes no sense! No, if Obama is so bad we need somebody who is a lot different, not the closest possible match.

You can’t have it both ways. It’s similar to how half the Romney supporters say that he had nothing to do with Romneycare, that the Democrats practically had a gun to his head and made him do it, while the other half of Romney supporters say it is one of his proudest accomplishments, that’s why he had a special signing ceremony, and is the one thing he has not flip/flopped on one or more times.

You guys can smear me, if there are any objective readers that read these comments I know they will side with me even if they don’t support Ron Paul.

Try as you might, this is not about Ron Paul. This rule change affects all of the grass roots. Almost everybody should care, even Democrats. It should scare them a bit too. The Republican Party is no longer within the bounds of civil politics.

These rule changes would have stopped Reagan from ever being President. If some of you don’t care about that fact then I guess I don’t really care about your opinion. If you want to try to make that about Ron Paul, you are only attempting slight of hand.

FloatingRock on September 3, 2012 at 5:57 AM

Do you ever stop lying? Even to yourself?

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Do you ever stop lying? Even to yourself?

SWalker on September 3, 2012 at 9:53 AM

shhhhhh. he’s sleeping.

renalin on September 3, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Granted, it’s not about the actual QOTD’s, which concern, quite possibly, the single most important issue of the day and one which could actually change life as we know it permanently, OVERNIGHT but it’s a damn sight better than rock videos.

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 8:47 AM

Cluck cluck cluck, went the tiresome scold. Seriously, who the hell are you to tell other people what to talk about?

This isn’t school or work. We are under no obligation to discuss any particular topic.

The fact that there is a looming crisis does not require us to be serious 24/7, particularly given that there has been an “imminent Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear reactors, any day now!!!!!11!! ZOMFG!!!!!!” for about ten years.

It is customary for commenters to use the quote of the day thread to socialize. AP and Ed do not have a problem with this, and it’s their (technically Town Hall’s) blog. If you yourself have a problem, perhaps you would be happier somewhere else.

Oh, and I know this is going to shock you, but it turns out that a lot of adults like music videos.

RINO in Name Only on September 3, 2012 at 10:26 AM

The fact that there is a looming crisis…

Oh, and I know this is going to shock you, but it turns out that a lot of adults like music videos.

RINO in Name Only on September 3, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Adults? Chronologically, I suppose you’re right.

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Oh, and I don’t put an unelectable gimmick like Sarah Palin in the same group with these serious candidates. Sometimes the loons and the crazies on here drown out the voices others, giving a false sense of how many people here support who or what.

bluegill on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 AM

I will do my best to avoid the needless squabbling. We all want the same thing… to defeat Obama. We should be nicer to one another. I’ll do my best to improve.

bluegill on September 1, 2012 at 7:37 AM

The blatant hypocrite strikes again.

#WAR

Flora Duh on September 3, 2012 at 10:50 AM

I have never known blink to lie on this thread or any other.

Bmore on September 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Adults? Chronologically, I suppose you’re right.

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? In addition to telling other people what to talk about, you’re now going to claim they’re immature because they don’t have the same musical taste?

Do you have even the slightest idea obnoxious you’re being?

Where did you get the idea that this is normal or healthy, to butt into other peoples’ lives and tell them what to talk about, and what to listen to?

Do you behave this way in real life, too? Do you go into bars and coffee shops, and scold people for their discussion topics? You must be great fun at parties.

No one made you the thread police, so mind your own business.

RINO in Name Only on September 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Uhmmmmmm,Idon’t want to distract anyone from bashing anyone else but you might want to check this out in the Headlines

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4276276,00.html

“The United States has indirectly informed Iran, via two European nations, that it would not back an Israeli strike against the country’s nuclear facilities, as long as Tehran refrains from attacking American interests in the Persian Gulf, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.”

Much as I despise the SCOAMF – I am hoping this ISN’T true because I don’t want to believe we are led by people who ate so stupid they cannot see the downsides in EVERY aspect of American foreign policy.

PolAgnostic on September 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Granted, it’s not about the actual QOTD’s, which concern, quite possibly, the single most important issue of the day and one which could actually change life as we know it permanently, OVERNIGHT but it’s a damn sight better than rock videos.

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 8:47 AM

I don’t consider FloatingRock whining about Ron Paul and whiffing of twoofer theories to be an adult conversation.

John the Libertarian on September 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

bluegill on September 3, 2012 at 8:14 AM

You stench riddin little pathetic creature. Worthless is what you are.

Bmore on September 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM

John the Libertarian on September 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

No, it’s a good point you make,I must agree.

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? In addition to telling other people what to talk about, you’re now going to claim they’re immature because they don’t have the same musical taste?

Do you have even the slightest idea obnoxious you’re being?

Where did you get the idea that this is normal or healthy, to butt into other peoples’ lives and tell them what to talk about, and what to listen to?

Do you behave this way in real life, too? Do you go into bars and coffee shops, and scold people for their discussion topics? You must be great fun at parties.

No one made you the thread police, so mind your own business.

RINO in Name Only on September 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM

It was merely an observation; not a command to talk about anything.

Your reaction is petulance on steroids. Similar to what one gets from teenage atheists when even the slighest critique is made of guys like Richard Dawkins.

Do you realize what you sound like?

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 1:08 PM

It was merely an observation; not a command to talk about anything.

It was a passive-aggressive whine about off-topic threads. Being passive-aggressive makes you more annoying, not less.

Your reaction is petulance on steroids. Similar to what one gets from teenage atheists when even the slighest critique is made of guys like Richard Dawkins

All of my questions are quite reasonable. The vast majority of humanity dislikes busybodies. There is nothing petulant about asking an arrogant person what their problem is. Indeed, mankind has a rich tradition of asking “what is your problem?” when people are particularly boorish.

Do you realize what you sound like?

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Yes, I sound like one of the members of the aforementioned majority, upon encountering an obnoxious scold.

RINO in Name Only on September 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM

*SIGH*

OK, I’ll address your questions if it will make you feel better, since that’s what this seems to be about:

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? In addition to telling other people what to talk about, you’re now going to claim they’re immature because they don’t have the same musical taste?

As I previously said, it was merely an observation about the QOTD being about something more substantive than the usual blather one encounters.

And, yes, it is only in our historically abnormal afffluence that adults care about such trivia as “music videos” Give me a break. Even some rock musicians have moved on from there.

Do you have even the slightest idea obnoxious you’re being?

I’m sorry. I was unaware that I was the only poster who had specific restrictions on what I could post on a QOTD thread.

Where did you get the idea that this is normal or healthy, to butt into other peoples’ lives and tell them what to talk about, and what to listen to?

Again, your analysis of my remarks is off target a little bit. I’d examine my own priorities a bit, if I were you. It is, after all, merely a comment thread. The world will not stop turning from what I’ve said but if Israel attacks Iran or if Iran nukes Tel Aviv, you and I are going to have more on our hands than a mere disagreement about music videos, don’t you think?

Do you behave this way in real life, too? Do you go into bars and coffee shops, and scold people for their discussion topics? You must be great fun at parties.

No, but I do seek out adult conversations wherever I can find them. Sadly, with our entertainment-based culture, I seem to be finding less and less of them these days. That’s probabaly why I seldom come to HotAir these days.

No one made you the thread police, so mind your own business.

Like I said, I was unaware that the comment section of HotAir was reserved for music video junkies.

RINO in Name Only on September 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Happy now? Grow up, RINO.

Cleombrotus on September 3, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Cleombrotus, you got a tune to go with that? ; )

Bmore on September 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM

:( No one answered by “Battleship” question

cptacek on September 3, 2012 at 4:55 PM

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