Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on September 2, 2012 by Allahpundit

U.S. intelligence analysts watching for indicators of Israeli military action recently reported that there are signs the Jewish state plans an attack against Iran in October.

The Obama administration, meanwhile, is preparing to provide logistical support for a military strike but is pressing Israel to delay any action until the administration’s policy of sanctions have had more time to work, and that any attack would be put off until after the November presidential election…

Any Israeli military attack is expected to be carried out with little or no warning, which has meant stepped up monitoring of Israel by U.S. intelligence agencies for all indicators of an impending attack.

***

Israel’s prime minister on Sunday urged the international community to get tougher against Iran, saying that without a “clear red line,” Tehran will not halt its nuclear program…

“The [new UN] report confirms what I have been saying for a long time – the international sanctions are burdening Iran’s economy, but they are not delaying the development of the Iranian nuclear program,” Netanyahu said.

***

Iran dramatically increased its production of a more enriched form of uranium in recent months, U.N. inspectors reported Thursday, suggesting that the country’s nuclear facilities were ramping up their output even as Iran’s leaders engaged in international negotiations on possible curbs to its nuclear program…

The report, based on routine monitoring of Iran’s nuclear facilities, documented a sizable jump in Iran’s stockpile of uranium enriched to 20 percent, a level that can be converted relatively easily to the more highly enriched uranium needed for weapons. The report said Iran has 255 pounds of uranium enriched at 20 percent, up from 159 pounds in May.

But the IAEA also found that Iran had converted much of the new material to metal form for use in a nuclear research reactor. Once the conversion has taken place, the uranium can’t be further enriched to weapons-grade material, Obama administration officials said.

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Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu got into a diplomatic shouting match with US Ambassador Dan Shapiro over US President Barack Obama’s handling of Iran’s nuclear program, saying “time has run out” for diplomacy, Yediot Aharonot cited a source as saying on Friday…

A source that participated in the meeting said that a particularly angry and stressed Netanyahu began a tirade against the US president, attacking him for not doing enough on Iran. “Instead of pressuring Iran in an effective way, Obama and his people are pressuring us not to attack the nuclear facilities,” the source quoted Netanyahu as saying…

The American ambassador is said to have responded politely but firmly, telling Netanyahu that he was distorting Obama’s position. Obama promised not to allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons, he explained, and left all options on the table, including military options.

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Seven months ago, Israel and the United States postponed a massive joint military exercise that was originally set to go forward just as concerns were brimming that Israel would launch a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. The exercise was rescheduled for late October, and appears likely to go forward on the cusp of the U.S. presidential election. But it won’t be nearly the same exercise. Well-placed sources in both countries have told TIME that Washington has greatly reduced the scale of U.S. participation, slashing by more than two-thirds the number of American troops going to Israel and reducing both the number and potency of missile interception systems at the core of the joint exercise.

“Basically what the Americans are saying is, ‘We don’t trust you,’” a senior Israeli military official tells TIME…

In the current political context, the U.S. logic is transparent, says Israeli analyst Efraim Inbar. “I think they don’t want to insinuate that they are preparing something together with the Israelis against Iran – that’s the message,” says Inbar, director of the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar-Ilan University. “Trust? We don’t trust them. They don’t trust us. All these liberal notions! Even a liberal president like Obama knows better.”

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A senior [Israeli] government official on Saturday characterized as “strange” a recent statement by US military chief Gen. Martin Dempsey that he would not want to be “complicit” in an Israeli attack on Iran.

“Dempsey’s comments are strange in that they would seem to contradict the continual statements from the White House that the security and defense cooperation between Israel and the US has never been as close,” the senior official said…

Amid the disagreements between Jerusalem and Washington over whether Iran needed to be stopped before it had acquired all components for a bomb (Israel’s position), or only once it started putting the bomb together, [Israeli intel chief Dan] Meridor said US President Barack Obama’s statement that he was committed to preventing Iran from getting a bomb, and would not be satisfied by containment of a nuclear Iran, needed to be taken seriously.

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Israel’s vice prime minister Moshe Yaalon said on Friday he feared Iran did not believe it faced a real military threat from the outside world because of mixed messages from foreign powers.

“We have an exchange of views, including with our friends in the United States, who in our opinion, are in part responsible for this feeling in Iran,” he told Israel’s 100FM radio station.

“There are many cracks in the ring closing tighter on Iran. We criticize this,” he said, also singling out U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon for travelling to Tehran this week.

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“There is definitely a narrative in the media right now – I’d say an overheated one – about tension between the US and Israel over Iran,” [U.S. ambassador Dan] Shapiro said, adding that this narrative does not “reflect the very close coordination and very intense work we’ve done together to address an issue that we perceive the same way, which is the importance of preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.”

Asked why the US did not give the Iranians a clear ultimatum – stop the nuclear program “or else” – Shapiro replied: “I think there is no mistaking what the US is prepared to do.” Shapiro said that Obama and Netanyahu, as well as their “teams,” speak regularly, and that the relationship “at the top” is “just what it needs to be.”

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Mr. Dayan’s assessment seems to buttress the theory that the collective saber rattling is part of a campaign to pressure the Obama administration and the international community, rather than an indication of the imminence of an Israeli strike. Many analysts here believe that hawkish statements by Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Barak this spring led to the harsher sanctions now in place, and that this is essentially Round 2…

While Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Barak have been criticized as “messianic” in their thinking on the Iranian nuclear issue and are widely viewed as ready, if not eager, to take military action to stop it, Mr. Dayan said they would prefer that the United States led any attack, even if that meant waiting until after the November presidential election. But “they have to make the decision whether to strike or not before November,” he said, so they need to hear from Mr. Obama “in the coming two weeks, in the coming month.”

***

Almost four years into their partnership, the two most important players — Bibi and Barack — still seem out of whack with one another both personally and on some key policy issues.

What’s happening here? I’ve got a pretty simple diagnosis: Netanyahu’s policies and suspicions about American intentions have combined with Obama’s seemingly emotionless view of Israel to spell trouble. The absence of a common enterprise makes matters worse.

The Iranian challenge might still provide a grand reunion between the two parties. But if history is any guide, serious clashes between Israeli prime ministers and American presidents are not resolved by reconciliation but by the departure of one or the other. That may mean we’re in for an extended period of turbulence: I’m betting that in this case, both Bibi and Barack may be around for the long haul.


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I cannot imagine Israel waiting until after the election, unless they are certain that Obama will lose.

GaltBlvnAtty on September 2, 2012 at 8:04 PM

It’s pretty obvious that the Iranian sanctions are working as well as those against Iraq did.

Question the October timing though unless Netanyahu thinks that hurts Obama’s re-election chances.

AZfederalist on September 2, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Maybe Israel will strike Iran right when Barry is giving his acceptance speech in Charlotte. Jewish Liberals will cry “those damned Zionists are giving us Zabar’s Jews a bad name”.

ardenenoch on September 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Lird your goins, and move out of the big city.

Bishop on September 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

A source that participated in the meeting said that a particularly angry and stressed Netanyahu began a tirade against the US president, attacking him for not doing enough on Iran. “Instead of pressuring Iran in an effective way, Obama and his people are pressuring us not to attack the nuclear facilities,” the source quoted Netanyahu as saying…

Bibi needs to have a press conference……

and bring just 1 chair….

/messages

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

That would be quite an October surprise.

John the Libertarian on September 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

serious clashes between Israeli prime ministers and American presidents are not resolved by reconciliation but by the departure of one or the other. That may mean we’re in for an extended period of turbulence: I’m betting that in this case, both Bibi and Barack may be around for the long haul.

well, if the “long haul” means “getting your ass handed to you in ~64 days” then sure, go with the “long haul”…..

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Gas prices would skyrocket…….Obama and the media would blame Israel…..and the pressure on Israel to stop the attacks would begin immediately.

…..and it would divert attention from the economy and COULD RALLY people around the flag.

NOT good.

PappyD61 on September 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

5. Tim Tebow will be the Jets starting quarterback by Nov. 11 in Seattle.

It won’t necessarily be all Mark Sanchez’s doing, but it doesn’t appear the Jets are going to be scoring a lot of points this season. How could they? Rookie running back Terrance Ganaway scored their only TD of the preseason and then was released. The Jets have a rough first-half schedule and if they go into their bye at 3-5 or 2-6, Ryan’s job security will become an issue for the first time. How does he shake things up and appease the fans? He puts in Tebow.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/nfl-2012-revealed-saints-super-ny-jets-tim-tebow-playoffs-article-1.1149636?pgno=1#ixzz25MRPRsA4

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM

PappyD61 on September 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

With TFGRP right in the middle and everyone waiting for him to react.

What will he do, embrace the attack and immediately disillusion his already fading base, or condemn it and have the GOP pounce on him as failing to support an ally while being a typical liberal sissy?

Bishop on September 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM

There had been no poll that came out after the RNC Convention other than the various ongoing tracking polls.

Yesterday the media made a big deal out of the Reuters/Ipsos, a tracking poll that showed Bary at 44 and Romney at 43, and along with Reuters loudly proclaim that there was no bounce for Romney.

It is an online poll of RV, with no internals, and a MOE of 2.9.

Today it is Barry 45 and Romney 45, and you do not hear a word on the result from the media. Reuters is spinning today, with the result tied, the Dem are poised to push ahead after the convention.

A week ago, it was Barry 46 and Romney 42. Hidden in the article:

Romney was leading Obama among all-important independent voters by 33 percent to 28 percent, the poll found.

Romney’s improvement on key attributes continued on an upward trajectory in the poll. On such issues as he “represents America,” “is a good person,” and “is eloquent,” Romney was essentially tied with Obama. On who is more likable, Romney had improved but still trailed Obama 32 percent to 48 percent, the poll found.

….most pressing issue of the campaign, the U.S. economy and 8.3 percent unemployment.

The survey said 76 percent of Americans believe the country is on the wrong track and 73 percent have a similar belief about jobs in the United States.

On the president’s signature issue of his first term, healthcare, 62 percent believe the healthcare system is on the wrong track.

If Romney was leading Obama among independent voters by 33 percent to 28 percent, and the result of the Reuters poll is a tie, it must be significantly skewed with an overweight of Democrats.

bayview on September 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Lird your goins, and move out of the big city.

Bishop on September 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Gird?

MooCowBang on September 2, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Gas prices would skyrocket…….Obama and the media would blame Israel…..and the pressure on Israel to stop the attacks would begin immediately.

…..and it would divert attention from the economy and COULD RALLY people around the flag.

NOT good.

PappyD61 on September 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

The increaser in gasoline alone would cost him California for absolute certain. Gas prices here are already probably going to cost him California, currently averaging $4.15 a gallon.

SWalker on September 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Remember – tomorrow is National Empty Chair Day!

whatcat on September 2, 2012 at 8:19 PM

It is hard to believe we have a President who has turned ourhis back to Israel. Just makes me sick.

Voter from WA State on September 2, 2012 at 8:19 PM

I would be willing to bet that 90% of Americans find his position on Israel as sickening as we do here.

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:21 PM

all sanctions do is allow more nefarious entities to take over and gain a foothold. Meaning even more bad folks who lie in wait for a fall.

Iraq in 2002 was way different than the first time we were there.

tomas on September 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

OT: Blown traffic gold.

I don’t see a post or headline of Newt’s takedown of the Dems and media on MTP this morning.

Must see.

http://www.therightscoop.com/newt-gingrich-eviscerates-news-media-for-ignoring-democrat-extremism-on-abortion-defends-todd-akin/

BuckeyeSam on September 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Obama promised not to allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons,

and he also promised to cut the deficit in half
and
to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States .
You don’t see us complaining about that Mr Ambassador , do you ?

burrata on September 2, 2012 at 8:26 PM

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I guess I missed the relevance of your post to the topic at hand?

scalleywag on September 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Barack and Michelle will plant a symbolic Gharqad tree in the WH garden.

profitsbeard on September 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

If Romney was leading Obama among independent voters by 33 percent to 28 percent, and the result of the Reuters poll is a tie, it must be significantly skewed with an overweight of Democrats.

bayview on September 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Read the explanation in this twitter thread. The problem seems to be with their LV model.

msmveritas on September 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

US military chief Gen. Martin Dempsey that he would not want to be “complicit” in an Israeli attack on Iran.

Saw 2016 today with my family. Please go and see it. It explains everything so clearly.

Key West Reader on September 2, 2012 at 8:28 PM

dear leader wants bibi to wait…

tell him to pound sand

cmsinaz on September 2, 2012 at 8:28 PM

I would not buy a used car from 0bama much less depend upon him for my country’s well being.

Bibi knows what 0 is all about and it is not good for Israel.

jukin3 on September 2, 2012 at 8:30 PM

BuckeyeSam on September 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

it was AWESOME

cmsinaz on September 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

I guess I missed the relevance of your post to the topic at hand?

scalleywag on September 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Seeing as how the current topic put AP into such a debbie downer of a mood, ted c was lookin’ to cheer AP up.

Understandable detour…this time.

ted c is now under tighter surveillance by the thread monitors.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Key West Reader on September 2, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Good to see you again KWR.

Barred on September 2, 2012 at 8:35 PM

A bit early to be going of O/T, but this is a new low, even for him.

Obama Blames Washington Gridlock, Partisanship On Family, Daughters

Flora Duh on September 2, 2012 at 8:36 PM

I guess I missed the relevance of your post to the topic at hand?

scalleywag on September 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

completely irrelevant, but its Sunday, AllahP is a jets fan and a drudge link has the Jets going to Tim Tebow as their man by Nov

/levity

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:36 PM

It would be difficult for a new American President to justify entering the nation into a war if Israel waits until after the election to strike Iran. It’s a rock and a hard place for sure and
it is the fault of the empty-chair-in-chief for not nipping Iran’s nuclear program in the bud much sooner.

VBMax on September 2, 2012 at 8:37 PM

A bit early to be going of O/T, but this is a new low, even for him.

Obama Blames Washington Gridlock, Partisanship On Family, Daughters

Flora Duh on September 2, 2012 at 8:36 PM

kids…..always getting in the way of the prog agenda….

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Seeing as how the current topic put AP into such a debbie downer of a mood, ted c was lookin’ to cheer AP up.

Understandable detour…this time.

ted c is now under tighter surveillance by the thread monitors.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Didn’t think the QOTD thread could go OT. Are there new rules?

kim roy on September 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

A man can be Jew or Christian, or he can be an Obama supporter, but he can’t legally be Jew or Christian, and be an Obama supporter … except in the usual way: one of the two with the mouth, the other with the heart. The spirit of Judaism and Christianity proclaim the survival of Israel and the meaning of that has no longer been left to guesswork, but made tremendously definite … the Jew and the Christian must fight all who would commit or enable another genocide or enslavement of the Jews or of Christians. That is the spirit and the law of Judaism and Christianity.

Well, Obama has his beliefs and actions and it is a perfectly definite set, there is no vagueness about it. He commands that the Jew and Christian bow to the Muslim at every turn they do him hurt or threaten him and his children with death. Word it as softly as you please, the spirit of Obama is the spirit of the evil shadowed specter of the Beast of Austria insidiously billowing in and building and building to ever more horrific heights. The moment there is a question about a boundary line or a building or some Muslim somewhere complaining about any matter, see Obama rise, and see him spit at the Jew and the Christian from the corner of his twisted mouth. The spirit of Obama being in its nature narcissistic and selfish — it is in the man’s line, it comes natural to him — he can fully live up to all of the teachings of Jeremiah Wright and even of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; for the spirit of Judaism and of Christianity are entirely impossible to him.

VorDaj on September 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Obama’s seemingly emotionless view of Israel

Hmmm…well thats one way of putting it. I guess.
It certainly gives Obama a wide open rhetorical pass.
Fancy that.
But Netanyahus’s policies and suspicions are really to blame.

Valerie Jarrett must have strong ties to Iran where she was born while her American parents worked there. Undoubtedly Jarrett has an affinity for the Iranian people, but she sees no difference between Neda Soltan and Khamenei.

As a lifelong leftwinger steeped in Chicago left wing race politics, she is bound to have numerous friends among the mullahs both in Iran and by now across the world. Its inconceivable that she doesnt. Imo, she’s the best White House friend the Iranian crazies ever had.

My guess is that Jarrett is pushing or driving what appears in public to me to be Obama’s go slow, who cares really if Iran gets the bomb because Israel has it already Iran deserves it, the US dropped one on Hiroshima and we need to be taken down a peg or two attitude.

Sacramento on September 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Mark Sanchez has enough experience now as an NFL quarterback but the Jets are still coddling him as if he were a newbie. It doesn’t appear that he will improve that much and I expect to see Tebow in
there before long.

VBMax on September 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Didn’t think the QOTD thread could go OT. Are there new rules?

kim roy on September 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

I think QOTD thread is the only one where you can go OT.

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM

By his 20 year attendance in Jeromy Wright’s so-called church, by his saying “The Arabic Call to Prayer is the most beautiful sound on Earth”, by his celebrating Ramadan in the White House, by his 2009 speech in Cairo praising Islam, by his call to go back to the pre 1967 war borders, by his giving the Muslim Brotherhood and their auxiliaries entrance to the White House, the State Department and even the military, by his deep bowing to the Saudi King – By each of these things Obama’s calling is plainly revealed. That all united should fail to enlighten the competent inquirer is almost inconceivable.

VorDaj on September 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Dumb question -can you play a Blu-Ray DVD on a non Blu-Ray player?

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM

AllahP is a jets fan
ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:36 PM

AH! So he’s the one!
:D

whatcat on September 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Tick…tick…tick….Israel is praying…tick..tick
…for Mittens as POTUS…..to restore….Israeli/US
relations!!!!

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 8:44 PM

…what’z wrong wid dem joooosz?…dey don’t trus wha our gobberment says?…it’s not if JugEars has a history of lying or not following up on promises he makes!…remember if HE says something is going to happen….it’s done!…it’s already occurred!…it’s past tense!…ask our media!

KOOLAID2 on September 2, 2012 at 8:45 PM

I guess the mayans are going to be right if they attack

tomas on September 2, 2012 at 8:45 PM

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Heh.

a capella on September 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Dumb question -can you play a Blu-Ray DVD on a non Blu-Ray player?

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM

nope, won’t work at all.

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM
We only have a blueray player now, but I know that the DVD players in our computers will NOT play blueray.
Been there, wondered same. :-)

pambi on September 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Didn’t think the QOTD thread could go OT. Are there new rules?

kim roy on September 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

QOTD is a conversation starter and its pretty freewheeling for most of the night.

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:49 PM

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM

pambi on September 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Thanks – guess I won’t be buying that movie.

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:49 PM

The Infamous Martin BatSh*t goes bezerk
over Dempseys critic remarks!!
________________________________

Martin Bashir Clashes With Trey Hardin, Cuts Interview Short
Published on Aug 24, 2012
*************************

MSNBC Host Kicks Republican Guest Off Show, Martin Bashir Clashes WIth Republican Strategist Trey Hardin, Cuts Interview Short, Bashir interviewed Republican strategist Trey Hardin and asked him to weigh in on recent comments made by Gen. Martin Dempsey on Fox News. Dempsey said

he was “disappointed” with a group of veterans who criticized President Obama
****************

in a new online documentary.

Bashir highlighted that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who is the highest ranking U.S. military commander, spoke out against this group of veterans.

Hardin responded that Dempsey’s comments were unsurprising since he “serves President Obama right now.”

Bashir interrupted Hardin immediately and asked him to retract his statement. “Sorry, Trey, I cannot allow you to cast such a contemptuous aspersion against a senior military officer by demeaning his service to his country.”

Hardin responded, “I did not demean his services to this country at all.”

“You did by suggesting that the only reason he said that was because he serves the president. Would you please take that comment back?” Bashir fired back.

Hardin attempted to speak over Bashir, asking to please let him answer the question. “I know that you respect democracy and people’s freedom of speech. These retired military—” Hardin said.

“He serves for the United States of America,” Bashir said. “Ok, Trey, you’re not going to take the comment back. Thank you very much.”

Bashir ended the interview and apologized to viewers for getting heated.
========

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs4m60mO2o8

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 8:49 PM

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Not a dumb question at all. While Blu-ray players are able to play DVD discs, DVD players are not compatible with Blu-ray discs.

VBMax on September 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM

You lousy cons! Always defending that illegitimate state known as Israel.

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Okay so hubby and I finally saw 2016 this afternoon. Great flick. D’Souza did a nice job showing why Obama has alienated Israel. Sickening. Everyone needs to see it. As a regular Hot Gasser, the information wasn’t new. BUT to see it all laid out in a cohesive story was really devastating. Unbelievable really how this man was elected. It really just makes my blood boil over the media’s refusal to do their job. Grrrrr.

Nikkia2112 on September 2, 2012 at 8:51 PM

I think QOTD thread is the only one where you can go OT.

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM

We can usually accomplish that within the first twenty posts or so. Dunno why we’re so slow tonight. I doubt it is fear.

a capella on September 2, 2012 at 8:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs4m60mO2o8

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 8:49 PM

By advancing Martin Bashir, the left has conceded all intellectual and moral arguments.

tom daschle concerned on September 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Dumb question -can you play a Blu-Ray DVD on a non Blu-Ray player?
gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM

It will if you put a BluRay player on top of the the DVD-only player – otherwise, no.
There were some some combo player that would play both formats, but I don’t know if there are any on the market today.

whatcat on September 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Are there new rules?

kim roy on September 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Y’all haven’t been payin’ attention.

minnisoter is the self appointed thread monitor and GGirl was designated replacement thread monitor whenever minnisoter stomps out from the constant bashing by folks tired of the designated topic.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

ted c on September 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Just remember the Detroit Lions went 4-0 in preseason prior to establishing the NFL record 0-16 during the regular season.

bw222 on September 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 8:49 PM

And one might ask, what the hell does Martin Batshit know about the U.S. Military.

VorDaj on September 2, 2012 at 8:54 PM

(:->)

You lousy cons! Always defending that illegitimate state known as Israel.

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM

…new troll?

KOOLAID2 on September 2, 2012 at 8:54 PM

minnisoter is the self appointed thread monitor and GGirl was designated replacement thread monitor whenever minnisoter stomps out from the constant bashing by folks tired of the designated topic.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

I what??????

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:54 PM

A senior [Israeli] government official on Saturday characterized as “strange” a recent statement by US military chief Gen. Martin Dempsey that he would not want to beA senior [Israeli] government official on Saturday characterized as “strange” a recent statement by US military chief Gen. Martin Dempsey that he would not want to be “complicit” in an Israeli attack on Iran. in an Israeli attack on Iran.
================

From a Liberal/Progressive prespective,what else is there to say,
about the “complicit” remark!!!

Sure glad,this kind of talk,didn’t occur,for the Dark Days of
World War 2,and what the Jewish people went through and had to
endure!!

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM

And another thing! Mr. uber-rich R-Money doesn’t have a chance of beating Obama.

How out of touch with the middle class can you cons be?

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM

BTW, the Yankees better look in the rear view mirror.

a capella on September 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM

You lousy cons! Always defending that illegitimate state known as Israel.

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Pine’n fer the trolls, are ye laddy?

AZfederalist on September 2, 2012 at 8:56 PM

By advancing Martin Bashir, the left has conceded all intellectual and moral arguments.

tom daschle concerned on September 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Martin Batshit even makes Joe Sliden look mentally healthy.

VorDaj on September 2, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Just remember the Detroit Lions went 4-0 in preseason prior to establishing the NFL record 0-16 during the regular season.

bw222 on September 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

…please don’t remind me!…we’ll all have “To put Our Pads ON…on Monday!”

KOOLAID2 on September 2, 2012 at 8:56 PM

…new troll?

KOOLAID2 on September 2, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Pretty sad state of affairs when I gotta do my own trolling.

Someone will bite.

Count it!

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:57 PM

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 8:49 PM

And one might ask, what the hell does Martin Batshit know about the U.S. Military.

VorDaj on September 2, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Vorjay:No sh*t,I thought it was interesting tho,that this occurred
over a week or so ago,btw,I found this late last night,on the
*Complicit Comment*…sent it in to tips,talk about a surreal
statement!:)

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 8:58 PM

I what??????

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:54 PM

It is an honor. Carries with it a significant amount of power. Use it wisely and only for good.:)

a capella on September 2, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM

You have the same problem as Bmore.

I what??????

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Don’t ask me. I’m jus’ goin’ by what I was told.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Vorjay:No sh*t,I thought it was interesting tho,that this occurred

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Vorjay? Don’t you mean Vajayjay?

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:59 PM

It is an honor. Carries with it a significant amount of power. Use it wisely and only for good.:)

a capella on September 2, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Ooooh power – I like power ;)

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Someone will bite.

Count it!

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Not in QOTD ya’ numbskull. Only experienced folks show up here. KoolAid2 is the exception to the rule. Or he’s drunk already.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM

The increaser in gasoline alone would cost him California for absolute certain. Gas prices here are already probably going to cost him California, currently averaging $4.15 a gallon.

SWalker on September 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Get real. There is NO WAY Zippy will lose the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia. Kalifornians are insane – you have elected Moonbeam, Babs Boxer three times and hundreds of brain-dead liberals to Congress and your state legislature; It will be a “victory” for Romney if he loses Kalifornia by less than 10 points.

bw222 on September 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Just remember the Detroit Lions went 4-0 in preseason prior to establishing the NFL record 0-16 during the regular season.
bw222 on September 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Though I believe the Bucs have the record for longest reg season losing streak, 1976–77 – 26 games in 2 seasons. I remember when they finally won a game to end that streak.

whatcat on September 2, 2012 at 9:02 PM

OT: This sounds like fun! I’m in. heehee

National Empty Chair Day

IrishEi on September 2, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Only experienced folks show up here. KoolAid2 is the exception to the rule. Or he’s drunk already.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Don’t be so sure, the bishin’ has been extraordinary this weekend, I’ve had ‘em jumpin’ into the boat.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Ooooh power – I like power ;)

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM

This ain’t no freakin’ Go-Go-Gophers..

Bully.

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Not in QOTD ya’ numbskull. Only experienced folks show up here. KoolAid2 is the exception to the rule. Or he’s drunk already.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM

You forget Antwerp the other night?

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 9:05 PM

The increaser in gasoline alone would cost him California for absolute certain. Gas prices here are already probably going to cost him California, currently averaging $4.15 a gallon.

SWalker on September 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

CA elections are decided by illegals, welfare moochers and union thugs. No way gas prices will sway the results.

burrata on September 2, 2012 at 9:06 PM

OT: This sounds like fun! I’m in. heehee
National Empty Chair Day
IrishEi on September 2, 2012 at 9:03 PM

I beat you to it at 8:19 PM.
:)

whatcat on September 2, 2012 at 9:06 PM

With TFGRP right in the middle and everyone waiting for him to react.
What will he do, embrace the attack and immediately disillusion his already fading base, or condemn it and have the GOP pounce on him as failing to support an ally while being a typical liberal sissy?
Bishop on September 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM

I don’t think if the administration can manage to pull off a well pieced narrative for staying out of another new war, now with Iran who has more capabilities than Iraq or Afghanistan, that the typical liberal sissy stand by Israel at all costs line of attack is gonna work as well as you seem to make it sound this go round. After over a decade of war, a still stabilizing but not profound economy, and how well the last to adventures have panned out for us, the averted American really isn’t all that gung ho for a new war in the way that the typical conservative “military is always a viable answer” hawk might still be.

I wouldn’t bet the farm on that strategy. Who knows though, republicans might just be able to pull off something to securely seize the narrative. But it’s not unbalanced odds for success one way or the other with that.

Boomer_Sooner on September 2, 2012 at 9:08 PM

This ain’t no freakin’ Go-Go-Gophers..

Bully.

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

AHEM

The correct theme song

:)

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Or he’s drunk already.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM

…oooohhfff!…says cozmo the *clink*…!!!

KOOLAID2 on September 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM

This ain’t no freakin’ Go-Go-Gophers..
Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

This is.

whatcat on September 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Vorjay? Don’t you mean Vajayjay?

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Lanceman:Not that I’m aware of!!

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

This is.

whatcat on September 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM

;D

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

I beat you to it at 8:19 PM.
:)

whatcat on September 2, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Yoooo Hoooooo Gophergirl! Whatcat did an OT without announcing it first. Get the cuffs.

That’ll show you for upstaging me…we got security forces around here for the likes of you! ;-)

IrishEi on September 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Uhhhh. You are far too young to remember Underdog I guess.

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Uhhhh. You are far too young to remember Underdog I guess.

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 9:11 PM

A little before my time I have to admit.

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Yoooo Hoooooo Gophergirl! Whatcat did an OT without announcing it first. Get the cuffs.
That’ll show you for upstaging me…we got security forces around here for the likes of you! ;-)
IrishEi on September 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Oh, oh. Good thing I linked to the Fight Song to bribe her. My Plan B is to hide behind an empty chair!

whatcat on September 2, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Lanceman on September 2, 2012 at 8:57 PM

They all got free tickets to help fill in the Bank of America stadium, are heading for Charlotte and will be offline for awhile.

Barred on September 2, 2012 at 9:13 PM

KOOLAID2 on September 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Tryin’ ta’ help ya’ out bud.

You did fall for it after all.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 9:14 PM

IrishEi on September 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

whatcat has a free pass – bribe posts are worth everything LOL!

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Yeah, wait until AFTER the election, then Barry can tell you to “stuff it!”.

GarandFan on September 2, 2012 at 9:14 PM

With TFGRP right in the middle and everyone waiting for him to react.
What will he do, embrace the attack and immediately disillusion his already fading base, or condemn it and have the GOP pounce on him as failing to support an ally while being a typical liberal sissy?

Bishop on September 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Bishop:

I’m going with the Mom Wearing Girl peddaling the womens
bike,throwing a baseball like a pansy…..liberal sissy!

Your accuracy of Hopey is uncanny!!

canopfor on September 2, 2012 at 9:15 PM

A little before my time I have to admit.

gophergirl on September 2, 2012 at 9:13 PM

You missed out.

From now on, you shall be known as Polly.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Hey, Whassup?

OmahaConservative on September 2, 2012 at 9:16 PM

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