Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on September 1, 2012 by Allahpundit

Over his first term, Mr. Obama, 51 years old, has fundamentally shifted his view of modern presidential power, say those who know him well. He is now convinced the most essential part of his job, given politically divided Washington, is rallying public opinion to his side.

As a result, if he wins a second term, Mr. Obama plans to remain in campaign mode

The president views a second term in some ways as a second chance, an opportunity to approach the office differently, according to close aides. He would like to tackle issues such as climate change, immigration, education and filibuster reform.

He has told some aides that a sizable mistake at the start of his administration was his naiveté in thinking he could work with Republicans on weighty issues.

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[E]ven if negative campaigning works, a re-elected Mr Obama will need the strength that comes from a convincing agenda. Otherwise the Republicans, who will control the House and possibly the Senate too, will make mincemeat of him. And … it is not just Mr Obama who needs a plan. America does too. Its finances and its government require a drastic overhaul. Surely this charismatic, thoughtful man has more ideas about what must be done than he has so far let on?

A tempting option will be to galvanise his party base, with talk of more health reform and threats of higher taxes on business and the rich. Rather than redesigning government, he could suck up to the public-sector unions by promising that jobs will not be cut. Rather than cutting entitlement programmes, he could reassure the elderly that America can actually afford them…

Incumbents tend to win presidential elections, but second-term presidents tend to be disappointing. Mr Obama’s first-term record suggests that, if re-elected, he could be the lamest of ducks. That’s why he needs a good answer to the big question: just what would you do with another four years?

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This election is not about what happened before Obama become president. It’s about his failure to make things better, and it is about where we are going in the future.

Obama didn’t close that factory — but he hasn’t re-opened it either. Despite telling the people of Janesville that was the plan. When GM announced in October 2008 that it would be halting production there, then-candidate Obama said, “As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America.”

Though Obama got his bailout, the people of Janesville are still waiting for that re-tooling. It’s that failure to accomplish the very goals he set out for himself that is the greatest indictment of Obama’s presidency.

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[L]et me make a modest observation from having spent much of the last few months traveling round foreign parts. When you don’t have frighteningly white upscale liberals obsessing about the racist subtext of golf, it’s amazing how much time it frees up to talk about other stuff. For example, as dysfunctional as Greece undoubtedly is, if you criticize the government’s plans for public-pensions provision, there are no Chris Matthews types with such a highly evolved state of racial consciousness that they reflexively hear “watermelon” instead of the word “pensions.” So instead everyone discusses the actual text rather than the imaginary subtext. Which may be why political discourse in the euro zone is marginally less unreal than ours right now: At least they’re talking about “austerity”; over here we’re still spending, and more than ever.

Time’s Mark Halperin wrote this week that “Obama can’t win if he can’t swing the conversation away from the economy.” That’s a pretty amazing admission. The economy is the No. 1 issue on the minds of voters, and, beyond that, the central reality of Obama’s America. But to win the president has to steer clear. That doesn’t leave a lot else. Hence, the racism of golf, the war on women, the carcinogenic properties of Mitt Romney. Democrat strategy 1992: It’s the economy, stupid. Democrat strategy 2012: It’s the stupidity, economists.

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Four years on, the speeches are starting to grate. Americans are tiring of their leader’s charm, much as we tired of Tony Blair’s. When demanding a trillion-dollar stimulus package at the start of his term, Mr Obama promised that it would bring unemployment down to below 5.6 per cent; today, the figure stands at 8.3 per cent. He pledged, in that slightly millenarian manner of his, to halve the deficit. Four years on, the deficit has fallen from $1.3 trillion to, er, $1.2 trillion. America’s credit rating has been downgraded as $5 trillion has been added to the national debt.

These are indescribable sums. There are no superlatives that can adequately convey what a $16 trillion national debt means. But Americans don’t need to wrap their minds around the statistics to know that they are worse off than they were 12 months ago, and will be yet worse off 12 months from now…

Whether Mitt Romney can eliminate the deficit is not clear. What is beyond doubt, though, is that Mr Obama cannot. His four years have left America poorer, less happy and less free. As Clint Eastwood told Republican delegates: “Politicians are employees of ours – and if somebody does not do the job, we gotta let ’em go.”

In a television interview after Mr Romney’s speech, the presenter asked me whether it was possible to win on an austerity message. Hadn’t the Greeks just punished the politicians who suggested deep budget cuts? “Yes,” I told him, “but Americans aren’t Greeks. We expect better of you.”

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In 1992, candidate Bill Clinton’s campaign ran an ad that began: “For so long government has failed us, and one of its worst features has been welfare. I have a plan to end welfare as we know it.” This was before progressives defined progress as preventing changes even to rickety, half-century-old programs: Republicans “would end Medicare as we know it.”

When did peculiarly named progressives decide they must hunker down in a defensive crouch to fend off an unfamiliar future? Hoover Dam ended the lower Colorado River as we knew it. Rockefeller Center ended midtown Manhattan as we knew it. Desegregation ended the South as we knew it. The Internet ended . . . you get the point. In their baleful resistance to any policy not “as we know it,” progressives resemble a crotchety 19th-century vicar in a remote English village banging his cane on the floor to express irritation about rumors of a newfangled, noisy and smoky something called a railroad.

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According to new research released today by Rasmussen, more voters identify themselves as Republican than ever in the last 8 years. More importantly, by a 4 point margin, more voters identify as GOP than Democrat. This is the largest spread between the parties ever. Worse for Democrats, the number of voters who identify with their party is also approaching an historic low.

In August, 37.6% of voters identified themselves as Republican. That is up from 34.9% in July. By contrast, just 33.3% of voters identify themselves as Democrats. That is very near their historic low in February, when 32.4% of voters identified as Democrat. The 4.3 margin in favor of the GOP is the biggest gap ever between the parties. In November 2010, when the GOP won a landslide in the mid-term elections, their advantage was just 1.3 points…

If the GOP advantage holds through November, it is likely that the electorate will be evenly split, like it was in 2004 or possibly have a Republican edge. If that is the case, then current media polling is way off-base. Democrats and the media may wake up in shock on November 7th.

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Through three nights of gauzy videos, sentimental testimonials and, finally, his own address to the nation Thursday, Mitt Romney worked hard to show he has a heart.

But he still needs to tackle the much harder job of convincing those Americans who so emotionally invested their hearts in President Obama four years ago that it is time to accept that his presidency did not work, let go of him and move on…

After month after month of disappointing job numbers, poll after poll showing dissatisfaction in his economic performance and hundreds of millions of dollars in negative advertisements, a large portion of wavering voters maintain a personal attachment to Mr. Obama, and a tentative willingness to give him more time to get it right, top strategists with both campaigns agree…

“It’s going to be hard to break the bond a lot of voters feel with Obama, even if they are disappointed,” said Mark McKinnon, a former strategist for Mr. Bush. “It may be a bad marriage, but they still want to save it.”

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rY2mOXnti0

last one folks!!!

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Calling it a night. Saw Flora out there. Gotta wave at her. See you all soon. Thanks for your support!!

KCB on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Ohhh I am first on Page 6!!!

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:22 AM

the needles and pins take that i remember (i think) was Jackie DeShannon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbM_Zmx9kA

r keller on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

I doubt I’ll ever be off on an election night as long as I’m working, which at this rate, might be another 20 years. :) But one thing I will be doing besides happily pressing the touch screen for Romney/Ryan is to poll watch as I did during the 2010 midterms. I plan on doing the phone bank thing and passing out campaign literature also, as soon as our local GOP committee gets a schedule together.

PatriotGal2257 on September 2, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Good on on ya! You’ll be living up to your name :)

I actually did a Lit Drop yesterday (saturday) for some local conservatives. It was a nice day and it’s good exercise going door to door.

I’ll be doing the phone bank as well. I volunteered to drive voters to the polls on election day. NH is a battleground state and we need every vote we can get.

…I believe you’ve said in the past you’re from PA right? Who knows maybe we can even take PA!

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

If you’ve got one with a recipe for Deep Fried Bluegill Fillets on it, I’ll order a couple.

Flora Duh on September 2, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Great idea! This shirt is gonna end up looking like a NASCAR at this rate. Lol!

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

I believe this heralds the end of the Republican Party. If this stands then the elites have effectively immunized themselves against the grass roots and commandeered the party by a rigged vote, literally, scripted on the teleprompter. If these rules had been in effect Reagan would not have been president.

Romney is the anti-Reagan.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:29 AM

‘Night KCB…

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Where Reagan expanded the Party, Romney has destroyed it.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:30 AM

KCB on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Good Night KCB, Sleep Well. I’ll be sending good vibes your way.

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:30 AM

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:09 AM

If you’ve got one with a recipe for Deep Fried Bluegill Fillets on it, I’ll order a couple.

Flora Duh on September 2, 2012 at 1:23 AM

lol..as a fishing family over here on the east coast..no problemo. As one of my fave FL chicks- special order completed. ;)
Sparky get to work! (lol)

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:30 AM

r keller on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Not heard her before thanks!!

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:31 AM

KCB on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Goodnight, Ken, hang in there and come back soon! :)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Love Petula Clark’s music! One of my favorite female singers.

It’s a sort-of regional joke on us here in western Pennsylvania that her great song “Downtown” was most often pronounced as “Dahntahn.” LOL

Here’s another good one.
Don’t Sleep in the Subway

PatriotGal2257 on September 2, 2012 at 1:31 AM

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Pleshette (and the other one) were both lovely.
Though, Pleshette sorta had that 70′s white afro–never much dug her hair.

Funny how some women sometimes hold our subconscious mind against us, ain’t it? I called a former gf the “C” word (Yeah, that C-word. Though, I never use it when awake–EVER!) once while she was talking to me when I was asleep. I woke up to an angry, angry woman–AND HAD NO IDEA WHY!!

Barely spoke to me for about a week.

Good times. Good times.

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Romney is the anti-Reagan.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:29 AM

You got a tune to go with that?

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Romney is the anti-Reagan.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Yes dear, you’ve convinced us all. Your work is done, go away now.

And here, have this cookie while you wait for the short bus.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 1:33 AM

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Simply fabulous!

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:33 AM

KCB-Ken..with the fast moving thread and me not physically fast..I see you had a loss. My heart goes out to you. Goodnight friend.

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:33 AM

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:31 AM

LOL! He sounds a lot like that guy who was running around claiming the world was going to end!

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:33 AM

PatriotGal2257 on September 2, 2012 at 1:31 AM

You bet it is!!

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:33 AM

I knew a rocker like you would love that! I do, too! Those guys are killer.

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:34 AM

did anyone see the althouse take down of dear davy brooks…one of those that still Hearts Barry…

r keller on September 2, 2012 at 1:24 AM

She is one of those who brung Obama.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2012 at 1:35 AM

This is a great song! Sung by David Bowie… I know he isn’t the first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT__JxncHEs

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Jack Bruce, Gary Moore, Ginger Baker- Spoonful

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Its the best. Those moments. Speaking of bass players… what do you think of Jack Bruce?

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:23 AM

I think Jack Bruce basically defined the rock genre for a helluva lot of bass players – he’s one of those guys who has a really recognizable style, that you just know it’s him playing, before you know much else about the song.

Harbingeing on September 2, 2012 at 1:36 AM

You got a tune to go with that?

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Here’s one I posted a few years ago but there are a lot of new people around and it’s worth repeating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsSPzr7ays

Totally unrelated.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:37 AM

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:29 AM

No, he is just not Reagan but Obama is Che.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Harbingeing on September 2, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Yeah… heart and soul of ‘Cream’ and those weren’t even his best days! Of course, he missed a little time with the two liver transplants, but came back even more sophisticated when he recovered!

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM

btw, sharyl attkisson (cbs) tweeted tonight that many of her ‘journo’ friends would voice opinions wrt the convention, and when asked if they watched it…said No

i guess they didn’t want to miss their G.town parties…the political class is surreal

r keller on September 2, 2012 at 1:24 AM

I saw that. Sharyl gave quite a lengthy lesson on how the world of journalists and lobbyists work together to pull the wool over the public’s eyes.

I found it interesting that she would say this:

‏@SharylAttkisson

@JimGo it’s so entrenched and sophisticated and well funded, people would be shocked at how they’re being manipulated. Info is power y’all.

@SharylAttkisson

@sav01 the public has to loudly demand we, the media be fair. you have a lot of tools at your disposal to find the truth about things too

Sounds like she was reminding us that #WeAreBreitbart.

Flora Duh on September 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Oh I got the bug now folks!!

Gilmour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W6hBI1SAL4

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Where Reagan expanded the Party, Romney has destroyed it.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Let me guess, a Ron Paul supporter?

Why do you people (sorry don’t mean to sound racist) insist that the world is going to end if Romney is elected?

Do you not see the contrast in this election? Are you not able to support anything than you’re own “ideal”?

Because that is what RP is, he’s an ideal in your mind…

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Yes dear, you’ve convinced us all. Your work is done, go away now.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 1:33 AM

So you don’t care that your party blatantly rigged a vote and changed the rules in a way that would have prevented Ronald Reagan from becoming President?

What kind of freaking Republican are you?

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Bowie has done some great work over the years! :)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:39 AM

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Four more years of Obama or a step in the right direction. Your choice, but I’m not putting up with narcissistic pessimism.

AZfederalist on September 2, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Yes dear, you’ve convinced us all. Your work is done, go away now.

And here, have this cookie while you wait for the short bus.

cozmo on September 2, 2012 at 1:33 AM

Unfortunately there is some truth into what he’s saying. What Romeny and the RNC did is bad news for us.

There’s nothing we can do about it right now though. What’s the alternative? Sit back and let obama win??

However we should not forget about this BS by ROmney and company at the convention. It should’ve be surprising given that we knew he’s a moderate and will do stuff to irritate us.

Hopefully Ryan and some more conservatives from Congress will be able to push ROmney to the right.

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Love Cream. Check out the HAT!!

(Bonus points for the hat, IMO.)

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:42 AM

So the troll shows up and some people bite down hard. Tch, tch, tch.

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Let me guess, a Ron Paul supporter?

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Did you watch the video of the cheating and vote rigging at the Republican National Convention? Pull your head out of the sand and watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKaXqoC4DjE

And if you wont watch that then at least read this brief report from a respectable publication and watch the video evidence for yourself.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/can-teleprompters-count-votes/article/2506556

What does the cheating that has been exposed at the Republican convention have to do with who I support? And by the way, you’re wrong, I’m a Gary Johnson supporter.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:43 AM

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Now we’re talking serious rock. YOU get points for that video!

By the way.. I think I’ve seen women wearing HAIR like that hat! LOL!

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Sounds like she was reminding us that #WeAreBreitbart.

Flora Duh on September 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM

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Thank you, Flora. I’m followingher her on Twitter now.

PolAgnostic on September 2, 2012 at 1:43 AM

There’s nothing we can do about it right now though.

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:40 AM

In fact right now is the only time that anything can be done about it!

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Let me guess, a Ron Paul supporter?

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM

I see ur new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftJZomwDhxQ

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Very cool, Scrumpy!:)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:45 AM

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Great pick Red!!!

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:45 AM

And by the way, you’re wrong, I’m a Gary Johnson supporter.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:43 AM


and now for the blogging impaired …

FLOATINGROCK IS A GARY JOHNSON SUPPORTER !

PolAgnostic on September 2, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Where Reagan expanded the Party, Romney has destroyed it.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:30 AM

…Rome is burning…and FloatingRock wants to keep fiddling!

KOOLAID2 on September 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Getting back to this T-shirt idea. HotAir is making a huge mistake by not giving all of us a free T-shirt. It would be the best advertising for the buck they could spend. Many of you may not be aware of this. So I’m going to tell you. Have you ever heard of the promotion that used to be done by livestock feed manufacturers? Back in the day the feed suppliers would put the feed in wonderful fabric sacks. Beautiful fabrics some of them. Guess who the farmer would by his feed from. That’s right the guys that had the prettiest feed sacks. I think you can figure out why. Some very lovely items were made out of those feed sacks. It cost the feed suppliers little and moved product really well. HotAir supply us T-shirts to promote you! Or caps your choice, I already have the cap, a T-shirt would work best for me. ; )

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:45 AM

HOT!HOT!HOT!:)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Love Cream. Check out the HAT!!

(Bonus points for the hat, IMO.)

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:42 AM

I am not sure about the music..but love the hat. :)

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:48 AM

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM

HEAR!HEAR! I second that motion!

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Thanks for the kind words! You are living up to being a patriot very nicely yourself. :)

And yep, that’s right, I’m from PA. It would be terrific beyond belief if we went as a state for R&R, but it’s very easy to be lulled into a sense of false security. Pittsburgh and Philly are big forces to contend with, and have been enough in the past to push us over into the Dem column with regularity, despite all the votes to the contrary coming from the suburbs and rural areas. It’s easy to get one’s hopes up here, only for them to be dashed in the end.

Two things I hope will be the factors to change it for the better: our new Voter ID law and the fact that Obama wants to take out the coal industry. Coal especially seems to have been shunted aside lately for the big story of the Marcellus shale deposits, but the fact of the matter is that coal is still a big presence and it shouldn’t be forgotten by anyone in this state (or any of the other major coal states, for that matter).

PatriotGal2257 on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

In fact right now is the only time that anything can be done about it!

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:44 AM

And that’s that exactly??

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

By the way.. I think I’ve seen women wearing HAIR like that hat! LOL!

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Lol. Thanks. (It does take b*lls to wear a hat like that! Hmmm, let’s see…fashion, fashion, fashion…Oh! I know–I’ll put this roadkill on my head! Lol.)

I see ur new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftJZomwDhxQ

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Lol. Yeah–that’s the kinda mood I’m in. (I danced a little in my chair. So glad no one’s around to see me. :) )

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

…Rome is burning…and FloatingRock wants to keep fiddling!

KOOLAID2 on September 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM

That makes zero sense, I’m not the one trying to preserve the status quo, I’m the one that is trying to change things and put out the fire.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

Back in the day the feed suppliers would put the feed in wonderful fabric sacks. Beautiful fabrics some of them. Guess who the farmer would by his feed from. That’s right the guys that had the prettiest feed sacks. I think you can figure out why. Some very lovely items were made out of those feed sacks. It cost the feed suppliers little and moved product really well. HotAir supply us T-shirts to promote you! Or caps your choice, I already have the cap, a T-shirt would work best for me. ; )

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM

… also flour sacks. I had a couple of flour sack dresses my grandmother made for me and really liked them. Mom wouldn’t let me wear them to school because that would make us look like we were poor I guess. I didn’t even know where the fabric had come from, I just thought the patterns were cool.

AZfederalist on September 2, 2012 at 1:50 AM

In fact right now is the only time that anything can be done about it!

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:44 AM

And that’s that exactly??

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

I mean: what can be done about it now?

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:50 AM

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Jeez! I am so sick of this stupid harping on Romney and “what he might to do this country”

It’s so easy for us to sit back and “arm chair quaterback” what this man and his team “might do”. When we KNOW what the idiot holding the office IS GOING TO DO!

Let’s focus on getting POTUS and the Senate and then you can cry all you want to about how evil the Repub’s are.

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 1:50 AM

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM

lol..okay.
I got an easy one here then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3udbawA1Q

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:50 AM

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

Especially pantless!:) PS…Don’t spill your beer!:)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:51 AM

Someone you may not know from Holland!! I think she is fabulous:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAF6ieYUnRM

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:52 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsSPzr7ays

Totally unrelated.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:37 AM

That was pretty good. What else ya got ? Seriously I already know where you are politically, what do you listen to when you listen?

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:52 AM

Getting back to this T-shirt idea.

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM

B, as a friend, I gotta tell ya: This whole t-shirt thing is seemingly becoming an obsession. Any day now, I expect to see you on A&E’s Intervention, with a weeping Mrs. Bmore trying to convince you, to no avail, to give it up cold-turkey.

:)

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:52 AM

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 1:50 AM

I’ve developed handle-blindess! Don’t care what they say.. as long as they do it over ——————————> there! :)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Wow! Now I really am wondering how old your are?

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 1:53 AM

And that’s that exactly??

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

The only way to stop the GOP establishment’s coup is to have a counter coup and take back control. You have to force them to change the rules back and correct the situation and force turnover. Boehner blatantly cheated and should resign as Speaker, if not from Congress. Riance Priebus or whatever his name should be drop kicked out of the RNC and replaced. There has to be turnover and accountability. The people responsible need to be turned out and replaced with people who will undo what they’ve done.

And if that isn’t accomplished in some fashion then the Republican Party is an un-American tool of the corrupt elites who openly cheat in public view and are so brazen they don’t even care. The Republican Party is illegitimate.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:23 AM

And along those lines and from that era, Paul McCartney, possibly the most melodic bassist ever, influenced Jack Bruce and everyone else since. His bass line on “I Saw Her Standing There”, simple as it was, is iconic among bass players, as are his lines on “Come Together”, “And Your Bird Can Sing”, and so many others. He showed how the bass could make a melodic statement in a tune like nobody else had ever done.

Harbingeing on September 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM

Thanks for the kind words! You are living up to being a patriot very nicely yourself. :)

And yep, that’s right, I’m from PA. It would be terrific beyond belief if we went as a state for R&R, but it’s very easy to be lulled into a sense of false security. Pittsburgh and Philly are big forces to contend with, and have been enough in the past to push us over into the Dem column with regularity, despite all the votes to the contrary coming from the suburbs and rural areas. It’s easy to get one’s hopes up here, only for them to be dashed in the end.

Two things I hope will be the factors to change it for the better: our new Voter ID law and the fact that Obama wants to take out the coal industry. Coal especially seems to have been shunted aside lately for the big story of the Marcellus shale deposits, but the fact of the matter is that coal is still a big presence and it shouldn’t be forgotten by anyone in this state (or any of the other major coal states, for that matter).

PatriotGal2257 on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

Those are some good points about voter id and coal.

So do you mean to tell me that we won’t have any Black Panthers standing outside polling booths in Philly this time around?

Can you imagine the outcry and hysteria if there were some guys wearing white hoods outside polling booth?

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:50 AM

I couldn’t focus on the dance track… I couldn’t get past the image of the album cover! LOL!

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM

Romney is the anti-Reagan.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:29 AM

And so Obama is the pro-Reagan, or something? Hate to tell you, but Reagan isn’t on the ballot, Obama is. Do you think for a moment that if Reagan were alive today, he’d vote for Obama over Romney? Have you lost it, man?

This election is not about Romney or Obama. It’s about freedom or tyranny. The freedom part may not float your boat, Romney’s not the best choice in this category, but tyranny is a certainty under Obama.

If you cannot discern the difference in these choices at this time of crisis, God bless you and may you enjoy your impossible utopia. Me, I’ll just go on living in the real world, imperfect as it may be, but I will go to my grave on the battlefield before my children will spend a single day under the tyranny that you invite through such comment.

TXUS on September 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Too cool!!

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:55 AM

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Lol. Yeah–that’s the kinda mood I’m in. (I danced a little in my chair. So glad no one’s around to see me. :) )

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

LMAO- good. Me to Crow lol..I cant dance but thats alright. You too. Dance in the chair..we will keep it secret.

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Flora Duh on September 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM

yeah, she was on fire tonight. She got started with wikipedia, and went on from there.

she got back into ‘safe’ territory by bashing pharma, and fake studies…but i’d like to know if she knows how the trial lawyer bilked the press into spreading the word on autism and vaccines.

that was really shameless…and the Lancet finally pulled the ‘study’ because of fraud (years later)…shameful episode (like CAGW)

r keller on September 2, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Especially pantless!:) PS…Don’t spill your beer!:)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:51 AM

LOL!

Speaking of fashion (thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:43 AM), how about this “oldies but goodies”?

Oooh! More bonus points!–SRV played on the album!

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:56 AM

I just thought the patterns were cool.

AZfederalist on September 2, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Some of them were very cool. My better half inherited a huge amount of them. I had never realized how many variant’s there were. We liked one of them so much she used it for her corporate identity. Its used for all her graphics having to do with the company. Lady’s really enjoyed those sacks. I think the guys did too. Very creative I thought. ; )

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Harbingeing on September 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM

For the era and the style he was innovative. However, over the years, I’m not seeing a lot of increase in intensity or sophistication. Shame, really.

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Wow! Now I really am wondering how old your are?

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 1:53 AM

You don’t have to wonder. I don’t mind telling you if you really want to know.

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 1:58 AM

“It’s going to be hard to break the bond a lot of voters feel with Obama, even if they are disappointed,” said Mark McKinnon, a former strategist for Mr. Bush. “It may be a bad marriage, but they still want to save it.”

CRNC | The “Break Up”

Thank you, Flora. I’m followingher her on Twitter now.

PolAgnostic on September 2, 2012 at 1:43 AM

You’re welcome. If only the American media had a couple of dozen more like her. *sigh*

Flora Duh on September 2, 2012 at 1:59 AM

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Okay.. I’ll go for the tune AND the extra points for SRV playing on the album… but don’t go to the Ziggy Stardust, Bowie-in-a-dress photos or you lose points!LOL!

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 1:59 AM

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Bowie certainly was a character!…

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 1:59 AM

Jeez! I am so sick of this stupid harping on Romney and “what he might to do this country”

It’s so easy for us to sit back and “arm chair quaterback” what this man and his team “might do”. When we KNOW what the idiot holding the office IS GOING TO DO!

Let’s focus on getting POTUS and the Senate and then you can cry all you want to about how evil the Repub’s are.

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Settle down and read what I said and have been saying throughout this thread:

Romney is a million times better than obama. I’ll do everything I can to help Romney win.

However I still haven’t forgotten what Romney is though. And no good conservative should give him a pass for that garbage he just pulled at the convention. The main reason ROmney did it was so that we can’t primary him in 2016. It fixes it. The RNC can change the rules as they please between now and the next convention while no one is playing attention. The primaries will become winner take all and it’ll be next to impossible for conservative Tea Party types like Santorum or Gingrich to gain any traction.

So I ask you, should we ignore what Romney did and bury it under the rug? Or should we be upset and not forget about it?

Again I’m not saying to go all “kook” like Sinking Stone and vote Gary Johnson which is basically giving the election to obama.

I’m saying fight like heck to get Romney elected but by very wary of him and expect to have to fight to hold his feet to the fire.

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:59 AM

So do you mean to tell me that we won’t have any Black Panthers standing outside polling booths in Philly this time around?

Can you imagine the outcry and hysteria if there were some guys wearing white hoods outside polling booth?

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM

Yeah, the level of hypocrisy is, as usual, always and inexorably … there. Sigh.

I have to get going. My eyes are closing on me, making it hard to see the keyboard. :)

Have a blessed and wonderful evening, everyone! I’ll see you all tomorrow.

PatriotGal2257 on September 2, 2012 at 2:01 AM

Mrs. Bmore trying to convince you, to no avail, to give it up cold-turkey.

:)

RedCrow on September 2, 2012 at 1:52 AM

She hates my T-shirt collection. I have, lets just say, a few. The ones I wear out get up-cycled into other unique products. I gift many to one artist I know. It makes Mrs Bmore happy when I get rid of some. For the life of me I have never understood why it bothers her. I just love the graphics on T-shirts. I wear a different one everyday all year and seldom repeat.

Bmore on September 2, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Labyrinth- Magic Dance- Bowie

LOOKING TOO COOL, TOO!

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 2:02 AM

The Republican Party got taxpayer money for that convention and then cheated taxpayers who tried to follow the rules and participate. The RNC should have to refund all of that money. Taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for partisan propaganda anyway, even if the nominee were somebody I supported.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 2:02 AM

And so Obama is the pro-Reagan, or something? Hate to tell you, but Reagan isn’t on the ballot, Obama is.

TXUS on September 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM

And do you pretend to be a Reagan supporter? Do you care that these rule changes would have prevented him from becoming President?

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM

That makes zero sense, I’m not the one trying to preserve the status quo, I’m the one that is trying to change things and put out the fire.

FloatingRock on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 AM

OK, let’s focus here. Status quo is a MARXIST in the White House. Not a statist, not a liberal, not a leftist, a Marxist and a Marxist administration. A Marxist who hates this country and is attempting to turn us into a third world debtor nation. A Marxist who has used executive orders to violate duly passed legislation from the legislative branch and is vowing to continue to do so “working around Congress” in order to push his agenda. A Marxist who has stated that in the next four years, if re-elected, will focus on Climate Change (read, destroy the energy production of this country), immigration (read, amnesty), education (read, continued liberal indoctrination and big spending), and filibuster reform (read, something that is not in the purview of the administrative branch). That is the status quo.

No matter what you say about Romney, a) he does not hate this country, b) he will not be “flexible” with Russia regarding our defenses, c) he at least gets that the economy is the number one issue to tackle, and d) his selection of Paul Ryan indicates a willingness to work for entitlement reform.

Thems your realistic choices. Yeah, you support Gary Johnson, that’s one less vote that Obama has to worry about on his path to complete destruction of the US.

Yeah, I’m PO’d at the unforced error with the rule change. Guess what? What’s been changed can be changed again. I’m way more interested in working the local fights to get conservatives into the party (and that’s being done) than I am in a suicide mission to assure an Obama win by pushing a hopeless Ross Perot Gary Johnson juggernaut. You sound like you are too young to remember Ross Perot, but he’s the reason we had a Bill Clinton. Twice.

AZfederalist on September 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM

When I put on my new shirt and get a shot of B9 I become Sparky Balboa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuULcVaMTf0

SparkPlug on September 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM

Wow! Now I really am wondering how old your are?

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Why? Does it matter? Your acting a little to fruity.
OMG..how old are you? wtf cares? I am 39 and say FO.

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 2:04 AM

Let’s Dance

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 2:05 AM

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 2:04 AM

Easy, Sweetness. He didn’t mean anything by it. Pretty sure. :)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 2:06 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9CVXO8tRjg

Mudshovel – Staind

It deserved a replay

SparkPlug on September 2, 2012 at 2:06 AM

SparkPlug on September 2, 2012 at 2:06 AM

Good choice, Spark! As you say… kewl!:)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 2:07 AM

bazil9 on September 2, 2012 at 2:04 AM

Jeez, had a rough night?

My comment was not to you.

ccrosby on September 2, 2012 at 2:07 AM

OK, let’s focus here. Status quo is a MARXIST in the White House. Not a statist, not a liberal, not a leftist, a Marxist and a Marxist administration. A Marxist who hates this country and is attempting to turn us into a third world debtor nation. A Marxist who has used executive orders to violate duly passed legislation from the legislative branch and is vowing to continue to do so “working around Congress” in order to push his agenda. A Marxist who has stated that in the next four years, if re-elected, will focus on Climate Change (read, destroy the energy production of this country), immigration (read, amnesty), education (read, continued liberal indoctrination and big spending), and filibuster reform (read, something that is not in the purview of the administrative branch). That is the status quo.

No matter what you say about Romney, a) he does not hate this country, b) he will not be “flexible” with Russia regarding our defenses, c) he at least gets that the economy is the number one issue to tackle, and d) his selection of Paul Ryan indicates a willingness to work for entitlement reform.

Thems your realistic choices. Yeah, you support Gary Johnson, that’s one less vote that Obama has to worry about on his path to complete destruction of the US.

Yeah, I’m PO’d at the unforced error with the rule change. Guess what? What’s been changed can be changed again. I’m way more interested in working the local fights to get conservatives into the party (and that’s being done) than I am in a suicide mission to assure an Obama win by pushing a hopeless Ross Perot Gary Johnson juggernaut. You sound like you are too young to remember Ross Perot, but he’s the reason we had a Bill Clinton. Twice.

AZfederalist on September 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM

BRAVO !!! Well done!!

I have some paulbots in my 912 group. I’ve argued the same thing but there’s no getting through.

Then again alot of these clowns have the nerve to post 9/11 truther and even OKC truther links!!

LevinFan on September 2, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Scrumpy on September 2, 2012 at 2:07 AM

Wow! We’re getting there! Serious moonlight and Cactus! :)

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2012 at 2:08 AM

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