Report: Romney vetted Rice for VP, rejected her because she wouldn’t budge on abortion

posted at 7:21 pm on August 31, 2012 by Allahpundit

This isn’t the Wall Street Journal reporting, it’s, er, Radar Online, but whatever. Good enough for a Friday night. I believe all of it, right up to the point where Condi refuses to renounce her pro-choice stance. Really? Mitt Romney was prepared to rescue her from the political wilderness with a spot on the Republican ticket, putting her in line to become America’s first woman president, and she passed on that because abortion is a line in the sand for her? Go watch her answer a question on the subject from CBS. It’s not like she’s some sort of pro-choice warrior; her support is heavy qualified, to the point where an opportunistic late-in-life conversion a la Mitt himself would scarcely be blinked at. Either she’s much more committed to her view on this than anyone guessed or something’s up here.

“Condi was fully vetted to become Mitt Romney’s running mate and turned over financial records, including tax returns,” a source close to Rice tells Radar.

“Mitt thought she would add much needed foreign policy experience to the ticket, thinks she is incredibly bright and he knew she would help with the all important female vote and African American support.

“However, Mitt’s advisers talked him out of it because Condi is pro-choice and she isn’t willing to change her position on the controversial issue. Condi also supports same sex civil unions which again, put her at odds with Romney. Mitt had a hard time getting the ultra conservative support of the GOP and was told if he picked Condi that would immediately be lost and so he ultimately picked Congressman Paul Ryan to be his running mate.”…

“Condoleezza is definitely leaning towards running for Governor of California. She wasn’t upset or surprised that she wasn’t picked to be Romney’s running mate,” the source says.

So she skipped her chance to make political history because she’s burning to take over the single most futile job in America, and facing an uphill battle in a deep blue state to do it. Top diplomat for Dubya and now, potentially, governor of the new Greece: Does Condi have some sort of strange affinity for totally thankless tasks? What’s next, running for president of the EU? Good lord. Even the liberals were praising her for her speech the other night. If people are already that willing to forgive her Bush pedigree, she should aim high, not content herself with presiding over the California death spiral.

Speaking of aiming high, I’m intrigued by the murmurs after her speech about her being a contender in 2016. Stipulate that she’ll reverse herself on abortion between now and then and that a few more years of gay-marriage normalization will make civil unions a not-terribly-contentious position even within the GOP. Would she stand a chance? Think about who’ll be running if Romney comes up short this time: Rubio, Ryan, and Rand Paul almost certainly, Christie quite possibly if he wins a second term as governor, Jindal and Jeb Bush quite possibly, and maybe Mike Huckabee. Don’t underestimate Huck, either. At first blush he seems like an also-ran in a field that strong, but one of the reasons he’s supporting Todd Akin is to position himself as the most high-profile social conservative leader in the GOP. Among the candidates I’ve described, Rand Paul will take the libertarians, Rubio et al. will duke it out over more mainstream fiscal conservatives, and Huck will be left to clean up with a huge swath of social conservatives. He won’t win them all, of course, but he’ll win enough, and they’re a big enough bloc that he’ll be a serious contender with the field otherwise divided. Amid all that, where’s the room for Condi? There’s an opening for her, I guess, if foreign policy comes roaring back as the country’s top priority over the next four years, plus some GOP undecideds will favor a woman candidate to counter Hillary if Clinton gets the nod on the Democratic side. But how does Rice build a base sufficient to top the sort of all-star team of potential candidates that I’ve just described? Her speech might have been presidential but realistically, in order to win the nomination, she’d need a 1968 situation where all the other potential nominees just aren’t suitable for whatever reason and so the party turns to her. Instead it’s the opposite — lots of them are suitable. No wonder she’s thinking of staying in California.


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No way Huck can win a three way race. I am an evangelical, 51 years of age. Consider if Mitt wins 2012 and then 2016 re-election. Ryan with him both years. No major snafu, things go well, it’s Ryan for sure. Say, Mitt doesn’t win 2012, Obama has 4 more years to screw America. No way HRC wins 2016, no one would dare elect a Dem after 2 terms of Obama. So, looking at the reps, still no way Huck wins it. Huck has too much baggage, give me Rubio or Ryan. As long as they keep their noses clean, stay married to their lovely wives, take care of their beautiful children, and lead their country in their political positions, they are the future.

chrisknits on September 1, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Love the Paul Ryan pick…….he is not the crony politician most of those rats are. But there are few in the congress with the balls to fight like he did. He will leave a void in budget committee.

As we all saw in Condi the other night, had they been able to get her on the ticket as the #2 – it’s game over then. The War on women’s would have been won, and whatever advantage the One has with women would be diminished.

Ryan on the other hand wll get tough with the socialists dumb and dumber duo, and that – may be more necessary as they – the Demonrats – will drag this thing into the gutter until Nov 6.

And that Boosh tag everyone tries to put on Condi- is a non- starter- as her worst day is better than ANY day these reset clowns could ever possibly try to achieve.

FlaMurph on September 1, 2012 at 1:02 AM

It’s interesting to me she was so emphatic on education, even calling the “civil rights issue of our time”. Hopefully, she’ll accept the honor of dismantling the Dept. of Education.

SouthernGent on September 1, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Am I the only one whom vaguely remembers Condi stating she doesn’t want political office, she enjoys policy? I also do not believe Romney would have said no to her based solely on eating babies; that’s too shallow even for a flip-flopping politician.

John Kettlewell on September 1, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Yeah, I can just see Mitt picking a pro-choice, African-American lesbian for his ticket. You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel for content, Allah. I heard Media Takeout is hiring.

SnarkVader on August 31, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Hahaha. This made me literally laugh out loud. I read MediaTakeOut.com every day. It’s a hoot and half!

SouthernGent on September 1, 2012 at 1:32 AM

How dumb do you have to be to consider the Vice Presidency “aiming high”?

Presidents do die in office, which is how Vice Presidents become President. In fact, in the nearly 200 years since our politics aligned around parties and the “ticket” concept the only VP to succeed to the office by election has been George H.W. Bush in 1988, although Richard Nixon won election to the top job after his first try (and was probably the legitimate winner in 1960).

But doesn’t every little boy and girl just want to grow up to become Agnew or Quayle or Gore or Biden?

Adjoran on September 1, 2012 at 1:34 AM

F off A.P. You may have given up on California but there are still some good conservatives left here who haven’t. I know it’s popular for rednecks to hate on Cali. But we are still here and aren’t giving up on our great state.

D-Bar on September 1, 2012 at 2:13 AM

I think that if Ryan acquits himself well the rest of the campaign, then he probably gets the 2016 nomination if Romney loses. He is a smart, crafty politician. The reason why he accepted the nomination is because even if he lost, he got a prime time speech at the convention and a chance to beat up on Biden in a debate. Of course, his main rival is Marco Rubio.

Illinidiva on September 1, 2012 at 3:39 AM

Not so sure I’d want to be in the office either when the economy crashes of its own dead weight and your party, and you, get the blame for it.

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2012 at 3:48 AM

Think about who’ll be running if Romney comes up short this time: Rubio, Ryan, and Rand Paul almost certainly, Christie quite possibly if he wins a second term as governor, Jindal and Jeb Bush quite possibly, and maybe Mike Huckabee.

Oops, forgot someone…

http://palin4president2016.blogspot.co.nz/2012/08/mccainpalin-led-obamabiden-1-week-post.html

McCain/Palin Led Obama/Biden 1 Week Post Convention.The Challenge For Romney/Ryan

When the GOP convention opened on September 1st 2008, with the first day cancelled like the 2012 Tampa conventions, candidate Obama had a 4 and a half point lead over John McCain 48.8 to 44.3.

On the first real day of the convention McCain was behind Obama by a huge 6.4 points 49.2 to 42.8

In four days from Sarah Palin’s vice-presidential nomination acceptance speech on September 3rd , on September 7th, the McCain/Palin team went into the lead by 1 point 46.7 to Obama’s 45.7

On the 9th day from the opening of the convention the McCain/Palin lead was 2.4 points over Obama and huge turnaround from the 6.4 point deficit.

Thus Palin’s acceptance speech saw a 9% increase in support from the night of her address for McCain/Palin
and at its height the McCain/Palin convention bounce was 3.7 points.

These are the figures that Romney/Ryan would have to be compared with. The initial results, as far as 17 million fewer viewers watching Paul Ryan’s acceptance speech, are not promising for them. The one week post convention to be Romney/Ryan in the lead will be the main marker.

09/09/08 45.6 48.0
09/08/08 45.4 48.3
09/07/08 45.7 46.7
09/06/08 46.6 44.2
09/05/08 46.6 44.0
09/04/08 47.6 43.2
09/03/08 48.8 43.0
09/02/08 49.2 42.8
09/01/08 48.8 44.3

ChuckTX on September 1, 2012 at 6:48 AM

http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/08/17-million-less-viewers-watch-ryan-in-2012-than-palin-in-2008.html

17 Million Fewer Viewers Watch Ryan in 2012 than Palin in 2008; Updated, Update II: WaPo and CBS Chime In

Posted on August 30 2012 – 7:44 PM – Posted by: Stacy Drake | Follow Stacy on Twitter!

I think this verifies with some pretty substantial numbers that there just isn’t the same excitement for Paul Ryan as there was in 2008 for Governor Palin. Via Mediabistro (emphasis):

On night two of the Republican National Convention, Fox News Channel was once again the network more people went to to get their political fix. That said, every network was down substantially from the same night in 2008, when Sarah Palin made her RNC debut…

Every other network was down. Every network was also down from 2008, with FNC down 1.5 viewers, NBC down 3.5 million viewers, CNN down nearly five million viewers, ABC down three million viewers, CBS down two million viewers and MSNBC down about two million viewers. It is worth noting that night two of the RNC in 2008 saw a speech delivered by Palin, who at the time was still a relative unknown.

All told, just over 20 million people were watching last night on the Nielsen-rated networks, compared to 37 million for night two of the RNC in 2008. Night one of the 2012 RNC was roughly on par with night one of the 2008 RNC ratings-wise, making the gap all the more dramatic.

This is just speculation on my part, but maybe it wouldn’t have been as bad for Fox had they not benched Governor Palin for their night two coverage. Just sayin.

You can read all the numbers here.

Update by Doug: Minus Palin, Convention’s TV Ratings Plunge

Updated by Steve:

The Washington Post reports the difference: Without Sarah Palin. a ratings dive

CBS also reports: Paul Ryan Not Nearly the TV Draw Sarah Palin Was

ChuckTX on September 1, 2012 at 6:50 AM

Palin speech that should have been given at the convention..

https://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin/posts/10151109537628588

Sarah Palin · 3,470,366 like this
August 11 at 8:23pm ·

Congratulations to Mitt Romney on his choice of Congressman Paul Ryan as his running mate. President Obama has declared that this election is about “two fundamentally different visions” for America. Goodness, he’s got that right. Our country cannot afford four more years of Barack Obama’s fundamentally flawed vision. We must now look to this new team, the Romney/Ryan ticket, to provide an alternate vision of an America that is fiscally responsible, strong, and prosperous – an America that understands and is proud of her exceptional place in the world and will respect those who fight to secure that exceptionalism, which includes keeping our promises to our veterans.

When I think about the direction our country is rapidly drifting in, I can’t help but look at California as a cautionary tale. The Golden State once boasted the entrepreneurial innovation of Silicon Valley, the American creative engine of the arts, economically powerful and beautiful cities from San Francisco to San Diego, and fertile farmlands that helped feed the nation. Now it is descending into financial ruin accompanied by an exodus of middle class Californians leaving for other states. As one writer put it, California’s “fastest-growing entity is government and its biggest product is red tape.”

Obama’s vision for America will make the rest of the country look like California, minus the beautiful scenery and warm weather.

Obama’s America is today’s California – complete with $100 billion taxpayer funded bullet trains to nowhere; out of control environmental extremists who have destroyed family farms and left some of the most fertile farm land in America fallow in order to protect a three inch fish; permanent high unemployment; government policies hostile to small business job creators; crippling high taxes; an abysmal real estate market; bloated government that wastes taxpayer money; endless budget shortfalls due to massive unfunded liabilities; city after city declaring bankruptcy; and a state government run by, in the words of one Wall Street Journal writer, “a brothel of environmentalists, lawyers, public-sector unions and legislative bums.”

We can’t afford Obama’s vision. Our children can’t afford it. Today we are over $15 trillion in debt and running up trillion dollar budget deficits year after year for as far as the eye can see. And our “leaders” have no plan to stop it! President Obama and this Congress don’t even have the fundamental blueprint—a budget!—to outline where they intend to take us as they merrily roll along with their out of control spending and constant increases of our debt “limit.” Our debt to China alone is more than we can ever hope to pay off in multiple generations. Such debt and dependence on foreign nations weakens us in countless ways. And yet our government keeps on spending despite the risks and despite conscientious, hardworking citizens telling them to just stop it. Our debt is growing by $3 million per minute. This debt, in conjunction with Obama’s massive government over-reaches like Obamacare, has strangled the private sector, which in turn has stifled job growth and slowed all economic growth. The only way to get our country moving again is to get back to basics like normal people do with our home and small business budgets! That means we must live within our means, get government out of the way of our job creators, develop the God-given natural resources we have been blessed with to provide real jobs and real energy security, and stop growing government and wasting taxpayer money on D.C. cronyism and useless stimulus kick-backs for favored donors.

Barack Obama’s record is one of dismal failure, which is why he isn’t talking about it. He would rather spend his time demonizing his opponents. The simple fact remains that Mitt Romney is not responsible for the dire state of our economy or the corruption and incompetence of the current administration.

Over the next 86 days, Barack Obama will try to distract us from his record. Many in the media will roll along with him in this mission. We must not let them continue the deception and distractions, and we must not be afraid to call the President out on his lies. His entire record in office exposes the false promises he made four years ago. So, let’s take a moment to remember what candidate Obama said just four short years ago.

Candidate Obama promised us fiscal prudence. But President Obama’s reckless spending and lack of fiscal leadership has led to the downgrading of our nation’s credit rating for the first time in history.

Candidate Obama decried reckless spending and promised to cut the deficit. But President Obama and those in Congress who control the purse strings and “go along to get along” have tripled it. President Obama’s proposed budget was so absurdly and wildly irresponsible that not one member of Congress, Republican or Democrat, voted in favor of it. And yet the Democrat controlled Senate still refuses to pass a budget itself, and this refusal has been going on for years now. That is irresponsible and, much more, it’s unconstitutional.

Candidate Obama promised us a “smarter government,” but President Obama has created a government that’s not too big to fail, but too big to succeed.

Candidate Obama promised us a plan for American energy independence. But President Obama has forced American taxpayers to subsidize bankrupt green energy companies with ties to his campaign donors. And when it comes to the energy we actually use to fuel our economy, President Obama’s administration blocks drilling and drags its feet on the permitting process. Meanwhile, he supports foreign energy developments, but not American made energy development. His administration opposes everything from drilling in ANWR to building the Keystone Pipeline to coal plants, but he’s all for subsidizing offshore drilling in Brazil and sitting back on his thumb while China moves in to pursue oil deals with Canada because his administration blocked responsible energy infrastructure development.

Candidate Obama promised us “the most transparent administration in history.” But in addition to refusing FOIA-requested documents, President Obama’s administration regularly holds meetings outside the White House and off the official White House visitor list with lobbyists and corporate interests they don’t want us to know about.

Candidate Obama promised to unite all America, but President Obama has cynically divided us again and again in his efforts to win reelection by playing identity politics and class warfare and pitting one group against another.

Candidate Obama promised us a “fundamentally transformed” America, and that is the only promise he’s delivered on. We can see now what his idea of “hope” is. Now we want change. He has failed to lead, so We the People must lead. And our leadership starts at the ballot box on November 6th.

Please continue to focus on the presidential race and on helping Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, but it’s also imperative that we get involved in the nation’s important House and Senate races. These candidates need our help to ensure that our next president has a responsible and ethical Congress that actually gets things done for America. Now on to November!

– Sarah Palin

ChuckTX on September 1, 2012 at 7:01 AM

and maybe Mike Huckabee.

At the moment I cannot think of a greater nightmare scenario than four more years of Obama followed by Huckabee.

farsighted on September 1, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Of course Allah forgot Palin. He’s the local Romney mouthpiece now.

victor82 on September 1, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Her pro choice stance is not really an issue. The fact is she was a diabolical mendacious and frankly incompetent SoS.

Read some of the memoirs of the people who served around her. They are measured but this academic was emphatically not up to the job.

Generally speaking we should not be employing academics as Cabinet Secretaries in the same way we should not employ marxist community agitators at the executive level.

There should be a bar for competence. Well there is, but it needs to be lifted off the floor.

CorporatePiggy on September 1, 2012 at 10:32 AM

I’m very happy with Ryan as the VP pick. I’d probably also be happy with Condi in that role but… I think Romney picked the best person possible already.

I’m more than happy with having too many qualified candidates than a short list, that’s what the Dems will have to learn to deal with in 2016. If Condi isn’t interested then we must respect her wishes, it’s not like being qualified means you have to go that route – that’s the choice they all have to make.

Ukiah on September 1, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Condi canNOT lead.
She just doesn’t have that temperament.
…..

burrata on August 31, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I wuldn’t say she cannot lead but I don’t think she has the temperment for the down &dirty side of politics. I respect her abilities but she has the ivory tower syndrome and that IMO doesn’t make a good POTUS.

katiejane on September 1, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Read John Bolton’s “Surrender is not an Option” and you’ll see how wishy-washy Condi is when the pressure is on and would not support her for POTUS. That said, I do like her very much, am impressed with her accomplishments and think she is fantastic for the GOP.

I have mad love for Marco Rubio. If he and Ryan go toe-to-toe for Potus, it’d be a hell of a choice…but it would be win-win for America.

Renwaa on September 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

ChuckTX on September 1, 2012 at 7:01 AM

God forbid we have a thread that doesn’t have at least one post extolling the glories of Our Lady of Wasilla.

JFS61 on September 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Of course Allah forgot Palin. He’s the local Romney mouthpiece now.

victor82 on September 1, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Don’t like Allah’s stance? Door’s that way, Falinbot, there are a million other blogs around. STFU or don’t let it hit you in the Obama on the way out.

MelonCollie on September 1, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Rice; just another over-educated, under-intelligent nit-wit incapable of serious intellectual agility who placed America’s enemies over her countrymen. Go play the piano, bimbo.

LizardLips on September 2, 2012 at 8:32 AM

I don’t think Condi has reversed herself on political office. She stated in her speech the following:

And on a personal note, a little girl grows up in Jim Crow Birmingham. The segregated city of the south where her parents
cannot take her to a movie theater or to restaurants, but they have convinced that even if she cannot have it hamburger at Woolworth’s, she can be the President of the United States if she wants to be, and she becomes the Secretary of State.

Now, we also have these tidbits from a 2008 interview with Wolf Blitzer:

Let’s enjoy this moment where a person like Barack Obama can knock down all of those old barriers that people thought existed, with respect to the opportunities that are available for African Americans. And my congratulations to him.

and

BLITZER: You’ve made it clear you don’t want to be vice president of the United States. How clear have you made it? In other words, have you told the Republican nominee in effect, you know what, don’t even consider me?

RICE: Wolf, I tell everybody who will listen, you know, through you and everybody else. Look, I’ve done my part. And I’ve got six months to sprint to the finish and then I have other things that I want to do. I want to go back to California, I want to write a serious book about American foreign policy. There are issues that have come to concern me greatly. Some that I was concerned about before I came here, like the state of education in the United States, which I think is at the root of our competitiveness. It’s at the root of our confidence and therefore it’s at the root of our international leadership. I’ll go back and work on issues like that. And it will be time for somebody else to take the stage.

BLITZER: Does John McCain know that?

RICE: Wolf, I’ve said it to everybody who will listen.

Do you see the similarities between her statements to Wolf Blitzer in 2008 and her statements at the podium of the 2012 Republican National Convention just a few days ago?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/condi-rice-obam.html

unclesmrgol on September 3, 2012 at 2:10 AM

LizardLips on June 9, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Put down the tinfoil and step away from the Ron Paul fliers sir…

:)

Bunsin2 on June 9, 2012 at 10:09 PM

unclesmrgol on September 3, 2012 at 2:14 AM

Facts are stubborn things; like the fact that Ms. Rice et al were instrumental in the actions leading up to the ‘no-win’ wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the 7000+ dead American soldiers, the tens if not hundreds of thousands of wounded and subsequently destroyed families on both sides, waging said idiocy without just cause while kiting checks to cover not only the cost but mislead the buffoons who were easily lured into allowing it, straddling the already-overburdened economy with a new and even more expensive federal agency that actively works to suppress the liberties of Americans in the name of saving them. I could go on but what would be the point, your mind is already made up so why confuse it with the facts.
BTW, it’s not tin foil but gold, Ron Paul has some answers, not all and Obama and his cadre of minions will destroy what left of this nation after the Bush administratios reign of ruin.

LizardLips on September 3, 2012 at 1:41 PM

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