PPP: McCaskill 45, Akin 44 in Missouri

posted at 3:21 pm on August 30, 2012 by Allahpundit

Another week, another encouraging poll for Akin from dKos’s pollster. The last one, which was based on a ridiculous R+9 sample, helped convince him to stay in the race. Now, with the GOP still quietly pushing behind the scenes to get him to bail out, here comes the cavalry again:

53% of voters say that they accept Akin’s apology for his comments last week to 40% who do not. For most Missourians Akin’s words weren’t a permanent deal breaker. Although Democrats are not ready to forgive him, 77% of Republicans say they accept his apology to only 18% who do not…

Only 37% of voters now say they think Akin should withdraw from the race to 54% who believe he should not. There’s a bipartisan consensus that he should stay in- 57% of independents, 53% of Democrats, and 52% of Republicans think he should continue running. There’s clearly a disconnect on Akin’s candidacy between GOP leaders in Washington DC and actual GOP voters back in Missouri…

One thing this whole episode hasn’t done is soften voters’ opinions of Claire McCaskill. Only 40% of voters approve of the job she’s doing to 55% who disapprove. Even though 32% of Republicans have an unfavorable opinion of Akin, only 11% of them actually say that they’re going to vote for McCaskill.

The sample this time is R+2, a more realistic model for Missouri in November, so yeah, some of the shock value from his “legitimate rape” comments has clearly worn off. His favorable rating has improved too, from a gruesome 24/58 after his comments were first widely reported to, er, 33/56 now. Which is bad, but not that much worse than McCaskill’s rating. In fact, Obama’s job approval in the state is just 39/55. It is conceivable that Hopenchange and its Senate enablers will fail so miserably that even Akin can ride the public’s disgust to victory. But then, the argument against him isn’t that he absolutely can’t win (although plenty of strategists believe that), it’s that he’s making a seat that’s easily winnable into a toss-up.

How easily winnable? Compare Romney’s numbers to Akin’s:

Romney crushes Obama by 12 points, thanks to near-total unity from Republicans, a surprising and encouraging number of Democratic crossovers, and a de facto even split among independents. He should have significant coattails for the Senate race, especially given McCaskill’s unpopularity, but there’s a chunk of Republicans who are ambivalent about Akin and a critical mass of indies who are balking. The result: A slight edge for the incumbent. Same deal when you split for gender:

The swing among women is more dramatic — 15 points total, from +8 for Mitt(!) to -7 for Akin — but there’s a sharp 10-point effect among men too, from +18 for Mitt to +8 for Akin. A sturdy yet bland Portman-esque Senate would probably lead McCaskill by upwards of 10 points in this environment. As it is, coin flip.

Doesn’t sound like Akin’s going anywhere, though:

https://twitter.com/TheBrodyFile/status/241239909032153088

Can’t wait to see what the next Missouri poll from a different pollster looks like. Exit question for Reince Priebus: What now?


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Go Akin, and thanks for reminding everyone that Obama wants to kill live babies.

faraway on August 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM

I still want a new candidate.

joekenha on August 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM

So he’s a retard. There are 90+ others in the senate. He’ll fit in just fine.

He won’t vote to make us slaves to the federales.

lorien1973 on August 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I still think he wins. Most people punch straight ticket and he’s better than Mcwhatsherbutt.

txhsmom on August 30, 2012 at 3:26 PM

We want to control Congress but… if he loses then at least we can take some solace that an idiot who could do damage to the brand has been culled from the herd.

Ukiah on August 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Its up to you Missouri

cmsinaz on August 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Blightbringer crowd will stay home, Rx2 folk will show up, yank the down ticket lever, Akin covered in blood, grit and grime gets drug across the finish line…GOP gains Senate, Obamatax repealed…commence orgasm…

hillsoftx on August 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

I always thought he would win. He said a galactically stupid thing. He appologized. That should have been the end of it. McCaskill is kryptonite here. He can pull this out.

JAM on August 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

I’ll have trouble believing in Akin poll until September 25th.

midgeorgian on August 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Exit question for Reince Priebus: What now?

For the love of the God you don’t believe in, Allah, get off this. You’re now deliberately stirring the pot.

Races get triaged all the time. Akin is clearly not a strong candidate, and any national funds distributed to him risk getting the national party tarred with his name. Priebus is not obligated to send a penny.

If Akin is really so strong in this race, he should have absolutely no problem raising his own money.

KingGold on August 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

I’ll have trouble believing in any Akin poll until September 25th.

midgeorgian on August 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

fixed

midgeorgian on August 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

People may not think so, but outside of St. Louis City and the inner suburbs, and Kansas City, Missouri is very conservative. There is even a huge organization based out of Saint Louis County (different from city) that tries to give women an alternative to abortion regardless situation and I hear more about them than Planned Parenthood even though a Planned Parenthood is less than 5 minutes from my house.

MobileVideoEngineer on August 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

the guy says something that is ignorant on par w/ thinking guam might tip over and teh gop goes after him guns blazing. i really hope he is the deciding vote for the caucus and he makes romney and cornyn pay through the nose to get his vote. they couldve gone about dealing w/ this in a much better fashion but they had to go trying to humilate the guy into quitting the race. and all so they could look “moderate” to the MFM and the dems.

chasdal on August 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

In close races of Novembers past they’ve kept the St. Louis polls open later and just long enough to give the Dem the win, overriding the will of the rest of the state.

I don’t trust this new PPP poll.

And I’m still concerned that Akin will only further damage the pro-life movement, especially if he’s somehow elected.

Odd, pro-life prospects depend on Akin getting into the senate and then becoming invisible so as not to further damage the brand.

Or, Akin could just drop out now…

shinty on August 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM

I still want him to go, but if he’s THAT close and the majority of Missourians think he should stay in the race then I think we have no choice but to back him, especially since it doesn’t appear he’s going anywhere. At least spend money mercilessly attacking McCaskill.

changer1701 on August 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM

McCaskill has to be beside herself.
Aiken, singlehandedly blows up his own campaign and she is on the ropes !
She should withdraw just for the shame of it.

Jabberwock on August 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Can’t wait to see what the next Missouri poll from a different pollster looks like. Exit question for Reince Priebus: What now?

Simple. Like I said the other day, funnel money through SuperPACs and religious groups. Let them handle the public support of Achin(or public trashing of McCasket).

If he can recover this quickly from the disaster of the previous week, then he probably is a slight favorite in this race. Obviously that says more for the unpopularity of Obama and McCasket in Missouri than any path God has allegedly chosen for Achin. But thankfully in a reddish state like that, it’s probably good enough for a Senate pickup.

Doughboy on August 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM

More handwringing from the Milquetoast Mitt brigade.

Get used to it. If Mitt wins it will be four years of shrieks, navel gazing, and wringing hands to bloody stumps over whatever meme the media decide to run with that week.

Dack Thrombosis on August 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Blightbringer crowd will stay home, Rx2 folk will show up, yank the down ticket lever, Akin covered in blood, grit and grime gets drug across the finish line…GOP gains Senate, Obamatax repealed…commence orgasm…

hillsoftx on August 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Gross… but accurate.

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Rick Tyler? Gee wiz… We’ll all wait with bated breath for the expose documentary from him on McCaskill and how evil corporations are. What a hack.

gatorboy on August 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Even before the stupid remarks, he was the dem’s favored candidate. We had a lemon before the remarks and we’ve still got a lemon so the whole thing amounts to … meh.

Sweet tea anyone?

Lost in Jersey on August 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Akin will pull this out. Only question then will be, will the Senate seat him?

And yes I can see that happening.

bgibbs1000 on August 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

This is disturbing. How is the GOP going to turn around the economy when they don’t have the ability (one way or another) to get this guy to quit and go back to his Congressional Race.

I mean, geez. The Democrats always seem to find a way to get this stuff done.

Asking him “pretty please” didn’t work. Now go find the brass knuckles and get him the hell out of the race.

NoDonkey on August 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Regardless of the polls the RNC and our Super PACs should not support Akin… However the RNC and our Super PACs can unleash hell on McCaskill in TV/Radio ads….

mnjg on August 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I don’t trust PPP. They probably tweaked their methodology to make Akin look closer.

Wigglesworth on August 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I’ll have trouble believing in Akin poll until September 25th.

midgeorgian on August 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Yup.

the_nile on August 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

I still think he wins. Most people punch straight ticket and he’s better than Mcwhatsherbutt.

txhsmom on August 30, 2012 at 3:26 PM

I think he’ll win too but the depressing fact is that only most Democrats vote straight ticket. Republicans have had a stubborn habit of only voting for those they have heard about. I tell everyone that’s great in a primary but in the general it undermines us.

Here in Dallas County we are trying to encourage Repubs to vote straight ticket. We’re telling them:

“If you don’t vote for a Republican that you don’t know then you will get a Democrat that you don’t want”.

mrsmwp on August 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Are we still intent on winning that race with Akin?
I don’t think that’s a good idea. Because Akin would be a possible drag on hundreds of congressional Republicans for at least 3 election cycles! If there ever was a case for voting for and supporting the Democrat, this is it. (Though perhaps this is the only case.)

anotherJoe on August 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Good! Sanity may be returning despite the politically correct faux outrage displayed by people who care less about the actual issue but make noise only to agitate. So what if he mispoke? It happens every day by the left with barely a whimper.

iamsaved on August 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Asking him “pretty please” didn’t work. Now go find the brass knuckles and get him the hell out of the race.

NoDonkey on August 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Yeah, because who cares about elections? Somebody said something I don’t like! GET HIM OUT OF THERE BECAUSE I SAID SO!

Dack Thrombosis on August 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Have they ever actually BEEN to Missouri?

http://www.PIQscore.com/missouri

It’s not exactly the Liberal capital of America.

VastRightWingConspirator on August 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

I always thought he would win. He said a galactically stupid thing. He appologized. That should have been the end of it. McCaskill is kryptonite here. He can pull this out.

JAM on August 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Agreed. If you non-Missourians knew just how much McCaskill is despised here, you wouldn’t be clamoring for Akin to pull out.

Sheesh, with all the shenanigans McCaskill has been up to for the last 6 years and her lovefest with Obama…and this guy is pressured to pull out of the race from our dysfunctional state party leaders (and national leaders for that matter) because of one comment?

manateespirit on August 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM

if PPP has it this close he’s up by 10

DanMan on August 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Folks, as crazy as it may seem, Akin is going to win. McCaskill is horrible. She can’t even get above 45% as an incumbent. As we get further away from his statement and closer to the election, it will mostly forgotten. What won’t be forgotten is how terrible the economy is and that she voted with obama right down the line.

Ta111 on August 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM

I still think he wins. Most people punch straight ticket and he’s better than Mcwhatsherbutt.

txhsmom on August 30, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Yes, but Texas has straight ticket voting. Does Missouri? Anyone?

parteagirl on August 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Yes, but Texas has straight ticket voting. Does Missouri? Anyone?

parteagirl on August 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM

What is straight ticket voting?

lorien1973 on August 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Are we still intent on winning that race with Akin?
I don’t think that’s a good idea. Because Akin would be a possible drag on hundreds of congressional Republicans for at least 3 election cycles! If there ever was a case for voting for and supporting the Democrat, this is it. (Though perhaps this is the only case.)

anotherJoe on August 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

I don’t even think we’re CLOSE to being done with asinine comments from our running politicians. It’s a safe bet there WILL be many more to follow. Akin, fool that he is, was fortunate to have had it happen to him this early.

So how many of our bright, shiney, eager politicians running for office have something utterly stupid to say to come?

Only time will tell….

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Are we still intent on winning that race with Akin?
I don’t think that’s a good idea. Because Akin would be a possible drag on hundreds of congressional Republicans for at least 3 election cycles! If there ever was a case for voting for and supporting the Democrat, this is it. (Though perhaps this is the only case.)

anotherJoe on August 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Ordinarily that might be true, as it was in 2006 with Mark Foley. But with the economy and jobs being #1 on everyone’s list of concerns right now, a lot of folks are gonna get turned off by a constant drumbeat of “Achin and the GOP hate women” from the Democrats.

If(and it’s a huge if) this PPP poll is accurate, it means a lot of the voters have already moved on from the gaffe and are focused on more relevant issues again. It would behoove the Dems to do likewise. Of course we know that won’t happen when they’re tapping the Flukester to speak at their convention next week.

Doughboy on August 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM

I’ll forgive him, but it is time for the talking magic vagina to STEP ASIDE.

Laura in Maryland on August 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM

McCaskill is waiting to nuke him with “legitimate” ads until the last deadline passed. If she has any brains, she sends her campaign staff on vacation and puts all other ads on hold, so Achin stablizes in the polls and wont drop out. They will reap that fruit, when the GOP has no alternative left.

Valkyriepundit on August 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM

RNC wont fund him. Go find a Super PAC.

Philly on August 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Folks, as crazy as it may seem, Akin is going to win. McCaskill is horrible. She can’t even get above 45% as an incumbent. As we get further away from his statement and closer to the election, it will mostly forgotten. What won’t be forgotten is how terrible the economy is and that she voted with obama right down the line.

Ta111 on August 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM

And this is why there was that stupid AP article asking why the RNC wasn’t talking about Akin. They know that the further away we get from it the less people will care.

MobileVideoEngineer on August 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM

What is straight ticket voting?

lorien1973 on August 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Just as it sounds. You can check at the beginning of the ballot to vote all R or all D. I never do that though since I like to at least look at all the races I’m voting on.

Doughboy on August 30, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Asking him “pretty please” didn’t work. Now go find the brass knuckles and get him the hell out of the race.

NoDonkey on August 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Yeah, because who cares about elections? Somebody said something I don’t like! GET HIM OUT OF THERE BECAUSE I SAID SO!

Dack Thrombosis on August 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

What he said is undoubtedly the least intelligent thing every uttered by a politician in my time.

And I am convinced this bozo has the ability to do it again.

He hasn’t quite blown it yet? Oh, just let him do another interview.

And during the hallowed election, he squeaked by with the help of Democrat votes and Democrat money.

All we’re asking him to do, is to put his party and more importantly his country, ahead of his crappy political career, which he can still choose to pursue, in the House of Representatives.

Not much to ask. Get him out.

NoDonkey on August 30, 2012 at 3:42 PM

“I don’t care if he does win. He’s dead to me.”

“Priebus is being stupid here. If he wants to ignore social conservatives, he’ll have a rude awakening.”

“Will everybody just shut up about this and move on?”

“I’d rather have McCaskill in the Senate than somebody as toxic as him.”

“Akin is teh Anti-Christ!!!11″

“Kit Bond needs to get in now!”

“Oh noes, Romney will lose Missouri and the election!”

“I don’t care who our candidate is, Akin or somebody else, but allowing a liar and troll like Claire McCaskill six more years of poisoning our government in the name of the otherwise good voters of Missouri is indefensible. There is no excuse for abandoning this race, even if it doesn’t affect our chance at the majority.”

There does that cover all of the necessary requirements for one of these Akin threads, so we can all check out early? The wordy one at the end is my own view by the way, though I am growing increasingly partial to the third.

Gingotts on August 30, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Just as it sounds. You can check at the beginning of the ballot to vote all R or all D. I never do that though since I like to at least look at all the races I’m voting on.

Doughboy on August 30, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Just wanted to be sure it was as silly as it sounded. Yeah, I don’t like this concept at all.

lorien1973 on August 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

wait until dems put ads with akin statement and what other gop leaders said about akin.

nathor on August 30, 2012 at 3:45 PM

McCaskill is waiting to nuke him with “legitimate” ads until the last deadline passed. If she has any brains, she sends her campaign staff on vacation and puts all other ads on hold, so Achin stablizes in the polls and wont drop out. They will reap that fruit, when the GOP has no alternative left.

Valkyriepundit on August 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Yup, they’ll pamper him until it’s too late.

the_nile on August 30, 2012 at 3:45 PM

I am still lost for words as to why any person would not want to support Akin against those who are in the seat of power over the GOP.

Does he not fit into the ideal definition of a Maverick? Where instead of being a lap dog for the squishy moderate leadership, that by the way voted out conservative grass-root from the table of ideas, he stands up to them and votes for the conservative principles because it is the right thing to do.

Yes, he made a critical mistake but by gum if people can rally around the “ABO” I am sure that “ABM” can be the same rallying cry. The RNC should do what the DNC would have done, circle the wagon around him and tell everyone to take a flying leap.

PuritanD71 on August 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

What is straight ticket voting?

lorien1973 on August 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM

http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2012/06/19/news/nm-drops-straight-ticket-voting.html

pedestrian on August 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

There does that cover all of the necessary requirements for one of these Akin threads, so we can all check out early? The wordy one at the end is my own view by the way, though I am growing increasingly partial to the third.

Gingotts on August 30, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Exactly. Everyone is falling for the left’s trap. If we shut up about it and let the voters actually VOTE then this won’t affect anything. I live in Missouri, Akin is very popular in this area. He even wins in an area with a large Jewish population. Just shut up and let the voters decide.

MobileVideoEngineer on August 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Just as it sounds. You can check at the beginning of the ballot to vote all R or all D. I never do that though since I like to at least look at all the races I’m voting on.

Doughboy on August 30, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Some states, like NC, will have straight ticket voting EXCEPT for judges. I never understood why that is done here, but I suspect it is a leftover attempt for the democrats to stack the courts here (this was a dem state until the 2010 election, barring Gov. Perdue).

Of course, if there are other issues, like amendments to the state constitution, you have to vote on those items seperately as well.

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM

The GOP can’t back him, not now, not ever. The moment you do you legitimize his comments from a party standpoint.

newtopia on August 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

You go to war with the army you have.

creek on August 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Maybe he can win and get the Democrats to dump a bunch of money there at the same time :) Then he can rebuild is reputation in the Senate.

kerrhome on August 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

The GOP can’t back him, not now, not ever. The moment you do you legitimize his comments from a party standpoint.

newtopia on August 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

And yet, there’s Smokin’ Joe Biden….

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM

It certainly could be PPP trying to give us hope to keep him in. It could also be that people forgive him and they just don’t care. Perhaps this election really is just about the economy and people are willing to tolerate what he said to get the economy back again.

kerrhome on August 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Exit question for Reince Priebus: What now?

Reince Priebus detest the people in fly over country.

He just forced a rule allowing him to swap in his own cronies for those the people in fly over elect/select. He did this by not allowing three bus loads of conservatives into the convention and putting all his and Romneys people on the floor to illegally vote for this and another rule giving him dictator like power to change rules on his own between conventions. Even with all the illegal voters it was less than clear they were the majority. A Roll Call vote was asked for but Reince Priebus refused to allow it. Reince Priebus also refused to vote on the Minority Report even though the rules do not allow him to refuse.

Reince Priebus attempted a Political Assassination of Akin. Thank GOD it failed. He should be shown the door.

Steveangell on August 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM

if the voter votes incorrectly and not for god’s appointed candidate, todd “magical vjayjay” akin the ballot will automatically be rejected…

i’d like akins to opine upon how the male body magically rejects male rape if it’s a real rape-rape.

mittens on August 30, 2012 at 3:51 PM

The 8th District GOP committee passed a resolution of support for Akin Tuesday.

I’m not downplaying what he said as being colossally dumb and misinformed (full disclosure–I am pro-life, period), but some of the analysis that we saw immediately after said sometimes these stories have less effect on the ground than the beltway MFM and hyperventilating libs would have us believe. Maybe that is truer than we thought.

Plus McCaskill is really really disliked…remember the video of her at the town hall meeting incredulously asking the audience “Don’t you trust me?” only to be nearly blown off the stage with the audiences unified response of “NO!”

The RNC and other groups can run ads highlighting that and other McCaskill leftish-ness without “supporting” Akin. Tell me you’d rather have her than him, even with his ill-informed understanding of biology and anatomy and how to avoid the dumbest possible answer evah.

Finally, it really comes down to this…how many MO voters are willing to send her back to the Senate just because Akin doesn’t think a rape victim should have an abortion? I mean, when you peel it all back, isn’t that the cold hard question?

The Hammer on August 30, 2012 at 3:52 PM

It certainly could be PPP trying to give us hope to keep him in. It could also be that people forgive him and they just don’t care. Perhaps this election really is just about the economy and people are willing to tolerate what he said to get the economy back again.

kerrhome on August 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM

I think people are just being stupid and falling for the trap of the left. If you don’t live in Missouri, you don’t know how popular Akin is in this state and you don’t realize how hated McCaskill is, so shut up and let things take their course. Pulling Akin and putting someone else in will actually hurt our chances.

MobileVideoEngineer on August 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM

The GOP can’t back him, not now, not ever. The moment you do you legitimize his comments from a party standpoint.

newtopia on August 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Yep, you can’t do it, but he might actually win. So do you allow him into the caucus?

IR-MN on August 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM

So this is what happens when the GOP sticks its thumbs up its butt and refuses to get a legitimate write in candidate going or suck it up back Akin.

Dither dither dither.

kim roy on August 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Reince Priebus detest the people in fly over country.

He just forced a rule allowing him to swap in his own cronies for those the people in fly over elect/select. He did this by not allowing three bus loads of conservatives into the convention and putting all his and Romneys people on the floor to illegally vote for this and another rule giving him dictator like power to change rules on his own between conventions. Even with all the illegal voters it was less than clear they were the majority. A Roll Call vote was asked for but Reince Priebus refused to allow it. Reince Priebus also refused to vote on the Minority Report even though the rules do not allow him to refuse.

Reince Priebus attempted a Political Assassination of Akin. Thank GOD it failed. He should be shown the door.

Steveangell on August 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Reince Preibus is FROM flyover country. You seem hell bent on looking for reasons to keep that chip on your shoulder.

changer1701 on August 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Some states, like NC, will have straight ticket voting EXCEPT for judges. I never understood why that is done here, but I suspect it is a leftover attempt for the democrats to stack the courts here (this was a dem state until the 2010 election, barring Gov. Perdue).

Of course, if there are other issues, like amendments to the state constitution, you have to vote on those items seperately as well.

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM

I live in NC. Yes there is a straight ticket option with the machines, but it is relative easy to split your votes also.

bgibbs1000 on August 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Akin makes the MO Senate rate about 10 points worse than it should be, but makes every other race in the country about 3 points worse than it should be.

It’s the other races that worry me.

Yes, this is playing the race card.

Pythagoras on August 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM

I always thought he would win. He said a galactically stupid thing. He appologized. That should have been the end of it. McCaskill is kryptonite here. He can pull this out.

JAM on August 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

I asked this yesterday or the day before and missed the answer (if there was one), but what kind of man is he personally? I’m wondering if he does eke this out and win will he be vindictive or will he vote along R lines as he would have had he had the support of the GOP?

I guess I’m wondering whether his vote can be counted on or will it be random.

kim roy on August 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM

“I don’t care who our candidate is, Akin or somebody else, but allowing a liar and troll like Claire McCaskill six more years of poisoning our government in the name of the otherwise good voters of Missouri is indefensible. There is no excuse for abandoning this race, even if it doesn’t affect our chance at the majority.”

There does that cover all of the necessary requirements for one of these Akin threads, so we can all check out early? The wordy one at the end is my own view by the way, though I am growing increasingly partial to the third.

Gingotts on August 30, 2012 at 3:43 PM

My own comments are similar to yours. I’ve said that someone in MO who deserves to get his/her ass kicked will get his/her ass kicked. I’ve also said that Republicans and conservatives in Missouri will have a difficult choice to make.

I don’t hold your choices against you, you do what you gotta do. Most of us here will have your back if not who you vote for.

It’s sad that the best case scenario, which appears nearly as likely as the worst case scenario, is that the GOP will gain a moronic, undisciplined, untrustworthy power-seeker who will probably bite us in the ass somewhere down the line.

Alberta_Patriot on August 30, 2012 at 3:57 PM

if the voter votes incorrectly and not for god’s appointed candidate, todd “magical vjayjay” akin the ballot will automatically be rejected…

i’d like akins to opine upon how the male body magically rejects male rape if it’s a real rape-rape.

mittens on August 30, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Here are your options:

1) Get Akin to step down as your candidate and get another,
2) Vote Claire McCaskill,
3) Stay at home,
4) Vote Akin.

While I fully understand what has gone on with Mr. Akin, THOSE ARE YOUR CHOICES!

Now, throw in all the colorful metaphors you want, you have only those FOUR options.

Live with it.

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Exactly. Everyone is falling for the left’s trap. If we shut up about it and let the voters actually VOTE then this won’t affect anything. I live in Missouri, Akin is very popular in this area. He even wins in an area with a large Jewish population. Just shut up and let the voters decide.

MobileVideoEngineer on August 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM

That’s a nice thought, but I don’t trust the average voter. They gave us Obama.

kim roy on August 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM

People here in Missouri — DONATE TO & VOTE FOR AKIN! People in other states — DONATE TO AKIN! McCaskill HAS to go. If my party is going to be a bunch of nutless wonders and give up just because our candidate misspoke then I’ll be needing to find another party.

Let’s go! Let’s get Claire’s fat butt out of DC!

Lizzy on August 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM

McCaskill going down would be like Pelosi losing – a monumental takedown. I hope Missourians hold their noses long enough to vote for this guy.

Probably a tough request but it needs to be done.

sherry on August 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Reince Preibus is FROM flyover country. You seem hell bent on looking for reasons to keep that chip on your shoulder.

changer1701 on August 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Are you defending what he did to force the vote he wanted on these two measures? Very undemocratic.

He sure does not act like he likes the people in fly over country guess he was very glad to get out of there. Just because you come from there means nothing. Plenty of idiots like him in fly over country they are just not the majority.

Steveangell on August 30, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Yep, you can’t do it, but he might actually win. So do you allow him into the caucus?

IR-MN on August 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Two words for you…Lizzuh McNarlstey, (My Daddy Said this seat is Mine-AK)

The Hammer on August 30, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Don’t care about the polls.

He’s still an effin idiot and needs to step aside.

If it were a different year, when the stakes weren’t as high, maybe he gets a pass. Not this year.

The Dems will prop him up until there’s no time for a viable alternative, then turn on him in lightspeed.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on August 30, 2012 at 4:00 PM

1) Get Akin to step down as your candidate and get another, Never going to happen.
2) Vote Claire McCaskill,
3) Stay at home,
4) Vote Akin.

While I fully understand what has gone on with Mr. Akin, THOSE ARE YOUR CHOICES!

Now, throw in all the colorful metaphors you want, you have only those FOUR options.

Live with it.

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 3:57 PM

There are only three choices. Akin is not leaving period. He won fairly and is easily raising money.

Steveangell on August 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Here are your options:

1) Get Akin to step down as your candidate and get another,
2) Vote Claire McCaskill,
3) Stay at home,
4) Vote Akin.

Yeppers!

melle1228 on August 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Will McCaskill and Akin debate?

Would be as entertaining as Punch and Judy.

Actually, it would be punch and judy.

NoDonkey on August 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

McCaskill going down would be like Pelosi losing – a monumental takedown. I hope Missourians hold their noses long enough to vote for this guy.

Probably a tough request but it needs to be done.

sherry on August 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM

I’m not holding my nose. I was never planning on not voting or voting for McCaskill no matter what and none of the conservatives I know in this state (which is a lot since I’m involved in a decent sized church in Akin’s congressional district) were planning on it either. Which is why some idiots making a big deal about this are actually making things worse.

MobileVideoEngineer on August 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

There are only three choices. Akin is not leaving period. He won fairly and is easily raising money.

Steveangell on August 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Thank you, Mr. Steveangell. I HOPED you would catch that one.

So which would be YOUR choice?

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 4:03 PM

But then, the argument against him isn’t that he absolutely can’t win (although plenty of strategists believe that), it’s that he’s making a seat that’s easily winnable into a toss-up.

That’s a fair argument. The claim that he absolutely can’t win, on the other hand, is suspect at best,

tom on August 30, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I don’t trust PPP. They probably tweaked their methodology to make Akin look closer.

Wigglesworth on August 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM

You do have to wonder. In the other PPP state polls I’ve seen, they lean Dem. So why all of a sudden in this one state are we getting such great GOP numbers?

bobs1196 on August 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Don’t care about the polls.

He’s still an effin idiot and needs to step aside.

If it were a different year, when the stakes weren’t as high, maybe he gets a pass. Not this year.

The Dems will prop him up until there’s no time for a viable alternative, then turn on him in lightspeed.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on August 30, 2012 at 4:00 PM

You obviously do not believe what you write.

Him getting out is a fantasy at this point. Yet you are still against him so obviously you do not actually believe the bolded part.

You just hate Conservatives and if we lose because of your hate you are fine with that.

Steveangell on August 30, 2012 at 4:05 PM

http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2012/06/19/news/nm-drops-straight-ticket-voting.html

pedestrian on August 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Rats. I couldn’t open the article. I can see that New Mexico has dropped straight ticket voting. What were the reasons?

parteagirl on August 30, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Hey! Let’s get a bunch of high-falutin’ coasties to try and install their own stooge in a flyover state election!

What could possibly go wrong?

Dack Thrombosis on August 30, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Hey! Let’s get a bunch of high-falutin’ coasties to try and install their own stooge in a flyover state election!

What could possibly go wrong?

Dack Thrombosis on August 30, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Let’s give Akin more opportunities to speak into a microphone.

What could possibly go wrong?

NoDonkey on August 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Are we still intent on winning that race with Akin?
I don’t think that’s a good idea. Because Akin would be a possible drag on hundreds of congressional Republicans for at least 3 election cycles! If there ever was a case for voting for and supporting the Democrat, this is it. (Though perhaps this is the only case.)

anotherJoe on August 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

It’s stupidity like this that leads to democrats getting Senate supermajorities and passing whatever crap they please. Akin won the primary, I’m voting for him.

Kelligan on August 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Well, the original argument against him WAS in fact not only that he couldn’t win, but that he was endangering the state for Romney and perhaps the national election, too. Not sure if AP was on board with that at first or not – and don’t care enough to look it up – but it sure sounds like his sort of hysteria.

But it is certainly revisionism to claim the original argument was that he made the easy pick-up into a toss-up. If that was anyone’s original argument, it was drowned out in the cacophony of wailing and gnashing of teeth the first few days.

As I said at the time, there is a distance between being repulsed by Akin’s stupidity and actually voting for McCaskill, who is widely despised.

Adjoran on August 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Hey! Let’s get a bunch of high-falutin’ coasties to try and install their own stooge in a flyover state election!

What could possibly go wrong?

Dack Thrombosis on August 30, 2012 at 4:06 PM

And then they wonder why Huckabee did what he did? Makes one think, or am I ahead of the bell curve?

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Thank you, Mr. Steveangell. I HOPED you would catch that one.

So which would be YOUR choice?

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I would hold my nose and vote for him. I vote for many Republicans because they fairly won the nomination, I do not like, McCain for example.

But Romney denied he was a Republican when he ran in 2002 so I will not vote for him as he was clear about not being a Republican. Well I am one and only vote for real Republicans not one that denies his party in the only race he ever won.

Steveangell on August 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Chis Mathews says “Akin’s comments were really aimed at black women”.

bgibbs1000 on August 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Akin will pull this out.

bgibbs1000 on August 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Are Evangelicals allowed to?

Archivarix on August 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM

I hope he wins. Democrats say stupid stuff all the time and you don’t hear one word form the same RINOs who have sentenced Akin to death. When one of our guys screw up the democrats immediately form a lynching party but by the time they get there, Republicans already have him hanging from a tree.

Sooner or later, we’re going to have to accept the fact that the best, brightest and cleanest are not running for congress and never will. Look at the pieces of crap we have in congress now, (on both sides). We will never get all Boy Scouts, so we might as well work with whatever crawls out of the political cesspool.

I can think of at least 10 Republicans in the Senate right now that I would trade for Akin. I would trade McConnell, PLUS a future draft choice for Akin

And if you think that killing off our own people will make the MSM like us, you haven’t been paying attention.

Alabama Infidel on August 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM

As I said at the time, there is a distance between being repulsed by Akin’s stupidity and actually voting for McCaskill, who is widely genuinely despised.

Adjoran on August 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM

FIFY? I dunno… kind of hard for me to know for sure…. genuinely widely, maybe?

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM

If this guys isn’t as stupid as his remark sounded, it could be that the Democrats have something on him and made him say what he did.

Which means what comes next should really be something.

NoDonkey on August 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM

So technically what the RNC is doing to atkins is legitimate rape.

phatfawzi on August 30, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Except for wanting to repeal Obamacare, I’d be satisfied with Akin losing. I’m with those who want him out.

But this poll does highlight how our moral and political condemnation might color objective determinations. The Cook Political Report declared Akin “unelectable.” I found that plausible – even desirable – but now appears to have jumped the gun.

I mean, despite many Americans holding a bleak view of Obama’s presidency, he might be re-elected…though I highly recommend you all go over to ace.mu.nu to read Ace’s post, “What Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan Need To Do Now.” It’s truly inspirational.

Crispian on August 30, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Which means what comes next should really be something.

NoDonkey on August 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM

That’s what they do – they attack whomever they PERCEIVE as weak.

I still enjoyed how well Gov. Scott handled the MSNBC crowd last night.

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Obviously, Missouri voters don’t know what’s best for them. You people need to listen to your betters and do what they say. Or else.

Dack Thrombosis on August 30, 2012 at 4:17 PM

My own comments are similar to yours. I’ve said that someone in MO who deserves to get his/her ass kicked will get his/her ass kicked. I’ve also said that Republicans and conservatives in Missouri will have a difficult choice to make.

I am starting to come around to this view as well. I felt and still feel like Akin should step down, but I’m beginning to think it’s possible he might actually win. And let’s be honest, when you get into the voting booth and it’s voting for him or McCaskill, do you REALLY leave his dot blank or fill in McCaskill’s?

This is starting to look like the reverse dilemma that conservatives face when voting for Romney. Yeah, we hate the guy, but we hate Obama even more. Are we really going to hand the Senate to the Democrats because we don’t want to vote for a so-con?

It’s sad that the best case scenario, which appears nearly as likely as the worst case scenario, is that the GOP will gain a moronic, undisciplined, untrustworthy power-seeker who will probably bite us in the ass somewhere down the line.

Alberta_Patriot on August 30, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Yup. And really, how would that be any different from the Murkowskis, Collinses, and Snowes that we already have?

Here are your options:

1) Get Akin to step down as your candidate and get another,
2) Vote Claire McCaskill,
3) Stay at home,
4) Vote Akin.

While I fully understand what has gone on with Mr. Akin, THOSE ARE YOUR CHOICES!

Now, throw in all the colorful metaphors you want, you have only those FOUR options.

Live with it.

Turtle317 on August 30, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Pretty much. As I said above, this is Romney in reverse. It’s one thing to take a principled stand under normal circumstances, but what are Republicans going to do if Akin’s is the vote we need to repeal Obamacare? Are they really going to become “moderate” versions of the ABRs?

Doomberg on August 30, 2012 at 4:19 PM

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