Open thread: Hey America, it’s Paul Ryan Update: Video added

posted at 9:51 pm on August 29, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

The most anticipated speaker on deck at the GOP convention tonight is almost certainly Paul Ryan, as his speech will mark his official acceptance of the nomination for Mitt Romney’s running mate and afford him the opportunity to America that he can be a more competent vice president than President Obama’s current counterpart. Lookin’ pretty good so far, according to the released excerpts:

“I accept the calling of my generation to give our children the America that was given to us, with opportunity for the young and security for the old – and I know that we are ready. Our nominee is sure ready. His whole life has prepared him for this moment – to meet serious challenges in a serious way, without excuses and idle words.  After four years of getting the run-around, America needs a turnaround, and the man for the job is Governor Mitt Romney. …

“Obamacare comes to more than two thousand pages of rules, mandates, taxes, fees, and fines that have no place in a free country. The president has declared that the debate over government-controlled health care is over.  That will come as news to the millions of Americans who will elect Mitt Romney so we can repeal Obamacare. …

“We have a plan for a stronger middle class, with the goal of generating 12 million new jobs over the next four years. …

“My Dad used to say to me: ‘Son.  You have a choice: You can be part of the problem, or you can be part of the solution.’  The present administration has made its choices.  And Mitt Romney and I have made ours: Before the math and the momentum overwhelm us all, we are going to solve this nation’s economic problems. And I’m going to level with you: We don’t have that much time.  But if we are serious, and smart, and we lead, we can do this. …

“The right that makes all the difference now is the right to choose our own leaders.  You are entitled to the clearest possible choice because the time for choosing is drawing near.  So here is our pledge. We will not duck the tough issues – we will lead.  We will not spend four years blaming others – we will take responsibility. We will not try to replace our founding principles, we will reapply our founding principles. The work ahead will be hard.  These times demand the best of us – all of us, but we can do this.  Together, we can do this.”

Nice. I’ll update with a reaction and video ASAP!

Update: Paul Ryan’s speech, in two words? Nailed it. Everything that I like (and surmise that others will like as he becomes more and more familiar to them) about Paul Ryan was on perfect display during his half hour-ish on stage. He was intelligent without being intimidating; he was stern and serious but still optimistic and even funny; and he hinted at his wonkiness without getting into jargon and maintained his approachability. But the most beautiful thing about Paul Ryan as the potential vice president of the United States is his uncanny knack for breaking through populist myths and shrill leftist attacks and instead communicating the merits of free-market economics and small government, all without being shrill or polarizing. Contrary to liberal messaging, wealth creation isn’t about people being people being helpless cogs in the wheel of corporate usury and cruel fate — it’s about people being empowered and free to take up the mantle of personal responsibility and ingenuity, and Paul Ryan can relate that truth highly effectively.

He simply and effortlessly walked us through President Obama’s long list of failures and history of blaming everyone but himself, and illustrated why a Mitt Romney presidency isn’t just an preferable but rather a desirable alternative — while scattering a few fun personal tidbits into the mix, as well as addressing their religious and generation differences with a message of unity. I thought that talking about his mother’s struggles, coupled with the simple declaration that a Romney/Ryan administration would not eliminate but strengthen Medicare, was the perfect death blow to Democrats’ recent attacks on that score: “We had help from Medicare, and it was there, just like it’s there for my Mom today.  Medicare is a promise, and we will honor it.  A Romney-Ryan administration will protect and strengthen Medicare, for my Mom’s generation, for my generation, and for my kids and yours.” Bam. Doesn’t get much more straightforward than that.

I’m struggling to find something to criticize about the whole thing, but then again, I am not a progressive. I’m sure their unfailing creativity won’t disappoint us in finding reasons that the whole monologue was just an elitist pack of lies, eh?

Update: I updated the front-page picture with one or our own, direct from the occasion!

Update:


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 14 15 16 17 18

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Heh…
…….you’re the best Dire….positive day in and day out.

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 1:35 AM

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Taxpayers money should not be used to bail ANY business out or to start one up either. We already have bankruptcy courts.

Cindy Munford on August 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Prosperity hasn’t always come easily. The plant shut down for a period during the height of the Depression, and major shifts in production have been required to meet the changing times. Tractors became automobiles. Automobiles became artillery shells. SUVs are becoming hybrids as we speak, and the cost of transition has always been greatest for the workers and their families.
==========

http://www.cfr.org/us-election-2008/obamas-speech-janesville-wisconsin/p15492

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:29 AM

So is it 2008 or 2009? If it’s ‘ stopped production’ vs ‘ idled’ I think they going to argue back and forth endlessly…the ‘fact checkers’ aka the liberal media are going to say that he lied and our side will say that nope, the plant was idled and closed in 2009, and that media is biases, blah, blah…

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM

ccrosby on August 30, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Rosanna Arquette..:)

P..This is my fav by Toto!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Frosty

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 1:37 AM

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:13 AM

As long as your here….it’s all good.

…..my business that I built has me going 7 days a week (working twice as hard for half as much..“Hope and Change”)….only have time to admire the postings of you,Del Dolemonte,and the Hot Air crew.

Has been an incredibly inspiring Convention……really impressed with Ryan tonight.

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Baxter Greene:

Glad to hear,your keeping busy,had a surprise early visit,
of my grandson,had to step away a bit tonight,anywho,thanks
for the kind words,I seem to have sh*t-luck,digging up info!

Condi,nicely back handed Obama,on a Leaderless America,she
sent out a clear warning to America,that its going to get
worse with Obama,and where does America stand!:)

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:37 AM

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 12:43 AM

‘irregardless’ is poor English. It should be ‘regardless’.
*grammar nazi…runs!*

annoyinglittletwerp on August 30, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I thought he was Canadian. Wouldn’t that make ‘Murican his second language? :)

Solaratov on August 30, 2012 at 1:37 AM

And of course Kudo’s to the Divider in Chief and his henchman, for shutting down the Saturn Divisions effectively FIRING these workers who dared to be successful with their NON-UAW Workers contract.

Saturn, Pontiac, Hummer, and Saab had to go. GM was making too many second rate cars under too many brand names, duplicating R&D, marketing, and other business units in a completely unproductive approach that Toyota and Honda have proven to be misguided.

You’d have to produce evidence that there was a conspiracy or that Saturn should have been kept alive and another brand killed.
Buick was the most controversial brand to keep alive, and it’s alive today only because of its popularity in China.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:39 AM

….positive day in and day out.

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Great to see you posting!..)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Meh. I posted a post citing a link where the Chinese market is about 10-15% of GM’s sales and a couple of points and it seems the gremlin residing at hot gas ate it. Not typing it again.

Main point is that growth on a 10-15% market share is generally not enough of a market to to keep a business afloat if the other 85-90% is underperforming. Would have to research further to see sales of other markets before stating anything with certainty.

Interesting discussion – so much so my post disappeared.

Also interesting that the Chinese like big cars. That doesn’t sound like communism.

Goodnight!

kim roy on August 30, 2012 at 1:41 AM

I’ll make it easy for you Chuckie. Share just ONE link from a respected industry expert who disagreed with Lutz. That should be easy given your broad knowledge of this topic.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

I don’t know bayam, explain this then?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/15/general-motors-is-headed-for-bankruptcy-again/

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 1:41 AM

I’ll make it easy for you Chuckie. Share just ONE link from a respected industry expert who disagreed with Lutz. That should be easy given your broad knowledge of this topic.

bayam
on August 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

.
To (expletive) with the “experts”.

To (expletive) with the bailouts.

You wanna’ see industry bounce back . . . . . . DE-regulate.

Abolish the EPA.

Abolish the auto manufacturing unions.

listens2glenn on August 30, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Didn’t I see where GM is stopping production of the Gov sponsored Chevy Volt??..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:42 AM

http://www.cfr.org/us-election-2008/obamas-speech-janesville-wisconsin/p15492

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:29 AM

So is it 2008 or 2009? If it’s ‘ stopped production’ vs ‘ idled’ I think they going to argue back and forth endlessly…the ‘fact checkers’ aka the liberal media are going to say that he lied and our side will say that nope, the plant was idled and closed in 2009, and that media is biases, blah, blah…

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM

jimver:

This will get play in the blogs,in the next day or so,its this piece that is going to get talked about!
========================================

And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need

to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years. The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it’s where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America;

right here in Wisconsin; and that’s the future I’ll fight for as your President.

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:43 AM

All jobs are equal. Some are just more equal than others.

Never waste a good crisis to decide winners and losers, eh?

FlaMurph on August 30, 2012 at 1:32 AM

…don’t forget all the pensions Obama killed that just happened to be non-union.
…….you know…because he cares so much for the American worker.


Emails: Geithner, Treasury drove cutoff of non-union Delphi workers’ pensions

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/emails-geithner-treasury-drove-cutoff-of-non-union-delphi-workers-pensions/#ixzz250NR70Yj

Emails obtained by The Daily Caller show that the U.S. Treasury Department, led by Timothy Geithner, was the driving force behind terminating the pensions of 20,000 salaried retirees at the Delphi auto parts manufacturing company.

Wonder how many wives Obama killed with this heartless move??????

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 1:43 AM

All jobs are equal. Some are just more equal than others.

Never waste a good crisis to decide winners and losers, eh?

FlaMurph on August 30, 2012 at 1:32 AM

If only Bush and his commie friends understood… for some reason they concurred that the US auto industry was too important to the nation’s industrial might and represented a critical aspect of US exports and this nation’s trade balance.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

1511 posts on this thread… so far.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Didn’t I see where GM is stopping production of the Gov sponsored Chevy Volt??..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:42 AM

yup, great balls of fire!

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 1:45 AM

I’ll make it easy for you Chuckie. Share just ONE link from a respected industry expert who disagreed with Lutz. That should be easy given your broad knowledge of this topic.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Nope. Here’s that quote again:

I’d recommend that you read the responses of that article by every auto industry expert, including Republicans, who describe Romney’s article as wishful thinking.
bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:02 AM

So clearly there is a collection of responses from EVERY auto expect you have read. So link it for us. If not, you obviously lied.

Tick tock.

Chuck Schick on August 30, 2012 at 1:45 AM

and going on about how the fact checkers are going to tear apart his speech tomorrow…

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 1:21 AM

….looks like Ryan was right on target considering all the flak blowing up around him.

Do these a$$hats actually think that speech was not vetted inch by inch for validity.

It’s not like Biden was up there…Ryan actually has a functioning brain.

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 1:33 AM

That’s exactly what I was thinking, and simply couldn’t understand that hysterical reaction by Piers Morgam and the MSNDC menagerie/zoo…the ‘fact checkers’ will argue back and forth over ‘closed production’ vs ‘idled’ during e next day, but they will still not be able to claim that that was a factoid in ryan’s speech, since the factory closed in 2009..

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Groaning the Blues

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Didn’t I see where GM is stopping production of the Gov sponsored Chevy Volt??..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Dire Straits:Yup:)
===================

Chevy Volt production temporarily shut down
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73560.html

G.M. Again Pauses Production of Chevy Volt
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/03/business/gm-suspends-production-of-chevrolet-volt.html

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Emails obtained by The Daily Caller show that the U.S. Treasury Department, led by Timothy Geithner, was the driving force behind terminating the pensions of 20,000 salaried retirees at the Delphi auto parts manufacturing company.

Geithner was promoted under Bush and acted as Paulson’s right hand man across a range of critical policy areas. If you’re suggesting that Bush and Paulson were socialists or intent on grooming anti-union socialists, just say it.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:48 AM

Wonder how many wives Obama killed with this heartless move??????

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Baxter Greene:Yup…..think of the children!:)

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM

This will get play in the blogs,in the next day or so,its this piece that is going to get talked about!
========================================

And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need

to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years. The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it’s where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America;

right here in Wisconsin; and that’s the future I’ll fight for as your President.

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Looks like they just shot themselves in the foot digging and digging and trying to find a factoid in ryan’s speech..you are right, the above paragraph is damning for O, how are they going to spin that one…

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 1:51 AM

Geithner was promoted under Bush and acted as Paulson’s right hand man across a range of critical policy areas. If you’re suggesting that Bush and Paulson were socialists or intent on grooming anti-union socialists, just say it.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:48 AM

I think most here will agree, Paulson acted stupidly!

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Excellent tune!..:):)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Sky Is Crying

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

I’ll make it easy for you Chuckie. Share just ONE link from a respected industry expert who disagreed with Lutz. That should be easy given your broad knowledge of this topic.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

I don’t know bayam, explain this then?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/15/general-motors-is-headed-for-bankruptcy-again/

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Are yous serious? What does this have to do with the 2008 bailout?

That writer isn’t an auto industry analyst or remotely objective. No one analyzing GM has said anything even remotely similar to his outlandish claims which completely ignore the company’s financials.

Now, don’t rush to share that article from 2008 validating your point.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Thanks for the links..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM

As for what someone posted about Matthews criticizing Ryan for being an attack dog….that’s traditionally the role of the VP candidate’s speech at the convention……so it’s hilarious to hear Chris whining about it.

kit9 on August 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Prosperity hasn’t always come easily. The plant shut down for a period during the height of the Depression, and major shifts in production have been required to meet the changing times. Tractors became automobiles. Automobiles became artillery shells. SUVs are becoming hybrids as we speak, and the cost of transition has always been greatest for the workers and their families.
==========

http://www.cfr.org/us-election-2008/obamas-speech-janesville-wisconsin/p15492

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:29 AM

So is it 2008 or 2009? If it’s ‘ stopped production’ vs ‘ idled’ I think they going to argue back and forth endlessly…the ‘fact checkers’ aka the liberal media are going to say that he lied and our side will say that nope, the plant was idled and closed in 2009, and that media is biases, blah, blah…

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Didn’t Monty Python already do that skit?

It’s not pinin,’ it’s passed on! This parrot is no more! It has ceased to be! It’s expired and gone to meet its maker! This is a late parrot! It’s a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn’t nailed him to the perch he would be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolical processes are of interest only to historians! It’s hopped the twig! It’s shuffled off this mortal coil! It’s run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible! This…. is an EX-PARROT!

They closed the plant, Barack!

de rigueur on August 30, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Didn’t I see where GM is stopping production of the Gov sponsored Chevy Volt??..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Why yes…..


Another Obama Success Story: GM Suspends Volt Output Due to Slow Sales

http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/another-obama-success-story-gm-suspends-volt-output-due-to-slow-sales/

….but…but…but how could this be…it’s such a raging success:


Media Fail: Chevy Volt Makes NO Money, Costs Taxpayers Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars Per Car

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2012/07/17/media-fail-chevy-volt-makes-gm-no-money-costs-taxpayers-hundreds-thous#ixzz250QO9OJN


But don’t tell Obama and his sheep…..this is their idea of “success”


Obama pretends he, Volt successful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elBohwGFZCw

Obama/Volt 2012….forward!!!!

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Pussycat Moan

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 1:58 AM

Are yous serious? What does this have to do with the 2008 bailout?

That writer isn’t an auto industry analyst or remotely objective. No one analyzing GM has said anything even remotely similar to his outlandish claims which completely ignore the company’s financials.

Now, don’t rush to share that article from 2008 validating your point.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

It validates that throwing good money after bad, and playing favorites didn’t do GM any favors and only prolonged the inevitable. Just like the tarp money… papering over the problem, well guess what? It doesn’t solve the problem. Yeah the government knows how to pick winners and losers, I bet you still own buggy whip stock.

And Forbes isn’t a respected financial magazine? I guess if it isn’t in Newsweek, it isn’t real?

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 1:58 AM

I’m sure the “tolerant and intelligent” liberals will be filling up the airwaves with their bigotry and hatred toward the “house ni#$#r” that dared to leave the plantation.

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Not just the liberal/leftists. There are plenty of trucons on that thread that are bashing her.

Solaratov on August 30, 2012 at 2:00 AM

Need Your Love So Bad

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:00 AM

Obama/Volt 2012….forward!!!!

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 1:56 AM

rofl..)

PS..Plus all the money spent on “Green” energy!!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 2:00 AM

BTW,heres another ClusterFark!!

Re:Bigelow Movie!
==================

Aug 28, 2012 8:26pm
Judicial Watch Obtains More Obama Administration Records Re: Kathryn Bigelow Film Project
*****************************

The conservative government watchdog Judicial Watch released more documents about the Obama administration’s cooperation with director Kathryn Bigelow and screenwriter Mark Boal, the Oscar-winning team behind “The Hurt Locker” who are currently working on a project, “Zero Dark Thirty,” about the successful mission to kill Osama bin Laden.

You can read the documents here.
(more..)
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/judicial-watch-obtains-more-obama-administration-records-re-kathryn-bigelow-film-project/
==============

Judicial Watch Obtains Stack of ‘Overlooked’ CIA Records Detailing Meetings with bin Laden Filmmakers
**********************************

Obama Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications:

Obama White House ‘trying to have visibility into the UBL (Usama bin Laden) projects.’

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it has obtained records from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Department of Defense (DOD) regarding meetings and communications between government agencies and Kathryn Bigelow, the Academy Award-winning director of The Hurt Locker, and screenwriter Mark Boal in preparation for their film Zero Dark Thirty, which details the capture and killing of Osama bin Laden. According to the records, the Obama administration granted Boal and Bigelow unusual access to agency information in preparation for their film, which was reportedly scheduled for an October 2012 release, just before the presidential election, but the trailers are running now until the rescheduled release in December.
If you would like to receive weekly emails updating you about all of our efforts to fight corruption, please sign up here.
* Email
* State:
Judicial Watch Weekly Update

The records – which should have been produced months ago pursuant to a court order in a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed on January 21, 2012 – include records from a “stack” of “overlooked” documents discovered by the CIA in July 2012. The following are highlights from the records, which include internal DOD, White House and CIA email correspondence with the filmmakers:

According to a June 15, 2011, email from Benjamin Rhodes, Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications, to then Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs Doug Wilson, then-CIA Director of Public Affairs George Little, and Deputy White House Press Secretary Jaime Smith, the Obama White House was intent on “trying to have visibility into the UBL (Usama bin Laden) projects.”

“…we are trying to have visibility into the UBL projects and this is likely the most high profile one. Would like to have whatever group is going around in here at the WH [White House] to get a sense of what they’re doing / what cooperation they’re seeking. Jamie will be POC [point of contact].”

According to e-mail exchange on June 7, 2011, CIA spokesperson Marie E. Harf openly discussed providing preferential treatment to the Boal/Bigelow project over others related to the bin Laden killing: “I know we don’t pick favorites but it makes sense to get behind a winning horse…Mark and Kathryn’s movie is going to be the first and the biggest. It’s got the most money behind it, and two Oscar winners on board…”

In a July 20, 2011, e-mail, Mark Boal writes to thank then-CIA Director of Public Affairs George Little for “pulling for him” with the agency, noting that it made, “all the difference.” Little responds: “…I can’t tell you how excited we all are (at DOD and CIA) about the project…PS – I want you to know how good I’ve been not mentioning the premiere tickets. :)”

On July 13, 2011, Mark Boal’s assistant, Jonathan Leven, sent CIA spokesperson Marie Harf a copy of the floor plan of the bin Laden compound and asked him to verify its accuracy: “Per your conversation with Mark, can you verify whether this floor plan is accurate?” The next day Harf responds: “Ok, I checked with our folks, and that floor plan matches with what we have. It looks legit to us.”

On July 14, 2011, Mark Boal asks CIA spokesperson Marie Harf to provide detailed information regarding the third floor of the compound that were not present on the open-source floor plan: “Would you mind looking into getting us some of the third floor specs…as the open source plan is missing those: height of wall, etc..? We will be building a full scale replica of the house. Including the inhabitants of the animal pen!” Harf responds minutes later: “Ha! Of course I don’t mind! I’ll work on that tomorrow…

In an internal CIA memo regarding Kathryn Bigelow’s visit to agency headquarters dated July 14, 2011, CIA spokesperson Marie Harf describes Boal’s contact with the agency as a “deep dive.” (The memo was originally classified Secret.): “Kathryn is not interested in doing the deep dives that Mark did; she simply wants to meet the people Mark has been talking to.”

On August 5, 2011, CIA Spokesperson Marie Harf exchanges several e-mails with New York Times reporter Mark Mazzetti about the Boal/Bigelow project and, specifically, about a column by Maureen Dowd to be published August 7, 2011, making critical reference to the access the filmmakers were given. Mazzetti gave Harf an advance copy of the article, with the caveat, “this didn’t come from me… and please delete after you read. See, nothing to worry about!”

In a June 15, 2011, e-mail, to Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications Benjamin Rhodes, Doug Wilson notes that the cooperation that Boal and Bigelow had been getting from the CIA was with the “full knowledge and full approval/support” of Director Panetta. “Boal has been working with us and with the CIA (via George Little) for initial context briefings – at DoD this has been provided by Mike Vickers, and at CIA by relevant officials with the full knowledge and full approval/support of Director Panetta.”

In a July 17, 2011, e-mail, CIA spokesperson Marie Harf advises then CIA Director of Public Affairs Greg Little that Boal and Bigelow would be “meeting individually with both [name redacted] and the translator who was on the raid…”

Judicial Watch launched its investigation of Bigelow’s meetings with the Obama administration following press reports suggesting that the Obama administration may have leaked classified information to the director as source material for Bigelow’s film.

New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd wrote that the information leak was designed to help the Obama 2012 presidential reelection campaign: “The White House is also counting on the Kathryn Bigelow and Mark Boal big-screen version of the killing of Bin Laden to counter Obama’s growing reputation as ineffectual. The Sony film [sic] by the Oscar-winning pair who made ‘The Hurt Locker’ will no doubt reflect the president’s cool, gutsy decision against shaky odds. Just as Obamaland was hoping, the movie is scheduled to open on Oct. 12, 2012 — perfectly timed to give a home-stretch boost to a campaign that has grown tougher.”

In addition to Judicial Watch’s pursuit of the bin Laden film records, the organization continues to fight in court for the release of post-mortem images of bin Laden and the alleged burial at sea. The Obama administration continues to withhold these records citing national security concerns.

“These new documents provide more backing to the serious charge that the Obama administration played fast and loose with national security information to help Hollywood filmmakers,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “No wonder we’ve had to fight one year of stonewalling from the administration. These new documents show there is no doubt that Obama White House was intensely interested in this film that was set to portray President Obama as ‘gutsy.’”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obtains-4-to-5-inch-stack-of-overlooked-cia-records-detailing-meetings-with-bin-laden-filmmakers/

**obtained records**
New Bin Laden Movie Docs
************************

http://www.scribd.com/collections/3784927/New-Bin-Laden-Movie-Docs

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 2:00 AM

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Thanks for the links..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Dire Straits:Anytime friend:)

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 2:02 AM

I thought I saw Pink Floyd at the convention. He was in the third row Next to the aisle.

SparkPlug on August 30, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Geithner was promoted under Bush and acted as Paulson’s right hand man across a range of critical policy areas. If you’re suggesting that Bush and Paulson were socialists or intent on grooming anti-union socialists, just say it.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:48 AM

Bush had absolutely zero to do with Geithner’s/Obama’s pension decision.

Geithner was made Treasurer by Obama….once again…Bush had nothing to do with it.

If you have to rely on straw-man arguments because the facts don’t back up your narrative….just say it.

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Hmmm… I tried to post a Katie Webster tune… but the moderator ate it…. must have been the title.

P****cat Moan

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:03 AM

The Chevy volt should have been called the spark plug. Irregardless it was a failure.

SparkPlug on August 30, 2012 at 2:04 AM

SparkPlug on August 30, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Are you sure??..I thought it was Dave!!??!!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 2:04 AM

And Forbes isn’t a respected financial magazine? I guess if it isn’t in Newsweek, it isn’t real?

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 1:58 AM

It’s an op ed piece posted online. Do you know how to read an income statement or balance sheet?
Do you understand what it means when projected Q4 2013 earnings are estimated at $4.00 per share? Can you help us understand the ‘bankruptcy’ path you’re insisting? Facts and numbers matter.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Otay,I`m heading towards SleepsVille,
great seeing BG,take care,

Night Everyone———————————–:)

Catch you all tomorroe RNC R2 Day 3!:)

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Goodnight, Canopfor! Sleep well.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:06 AM

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Later!..Enjoyed it as always!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 2:06 AM

I’ll make it easy for you Chuckie. Share just ONE link from a respected industry expert who disagreed with Lutz. That should be easy given your broad knowledge of this topic.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

But, according to your 100% claim, and your list of one – Lutz is the only auto industry expert in America.
Unless, of course, you have a longer list somewhere. But then, all 100% disagreed with Romney, didn’t they? So, Lutz is covered.

Unless you were…exaggerating…or something.

Solaratov on August 30, 2012 at 2:07 AM

Not just the liberal/leftists. There are plenty of trucons on that thread that are bashing her.

Solaratov on August 30, 2012 at 2:00 AM

I know, I left, it was disgusting, reading that low life’s comments, vordaj or whatever his moniker…

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 2:08 AM

BTW,heres another ClusterFark!!

Re:Bigelow Movie!

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 2:00 AM

This is going to be fun. No Easy Day, the new first-person account of the killing of Bin Laden has had its publication date moved up a week because of demand, and is already #1 on the Amazon and BN-dot-com best-seller lists.

So when people start talking about seeing the movie and reading the book, the question will arise: which book? The SEALs version or Obama’s?

de rigueur on August 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

I Had A Dream

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Facts and numbers matter.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Not to you.

Here’s your quote again:

I’d recommend that you read the responses of that article by every auto industry expert, including Republicans, who describe Romney’s article as wishful thinking.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Still waiting.

Chuck Schick on August 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Didn’t Monty Python already do that skit?

It’s not pinin,’ it’s passed on! This parrot is no more! It has ceased to be! It’s expired and gone to meet its maker! This is a late parrot! It’s a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn’t nailed him to the perch he would be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolical processes are of interest only to historians! It’s hopped the twig! It’s shuffled off this mortal coil! It’s run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible! This…. is an EX-PARROT!

They closed the plant, Barack!

de rigueur on August 30, 2012 at 1:56 AM

hahaha, priceless, thanks for the link, one of my monty python all time faves :-)…

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 2:11 AM

Paul Ryan needs this on his ipod.

profitsbeard on August 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

P****cat Moan

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:03 AM

Yep, that will do it every time. Lol! Auto mod is odd too. ; ) I guess that’s why they always refer to Allahs kitty’s. Instead of Allahs………..

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Dammitt, who was there for Studebaker? You guessed it. No one. Except at Johnson’s innaguraton. They had orange Studebaker Wagons with sun roof which therein housed SS. What about those Boss Wagons? WHY DID THEY HAVE TO GO?

kenny on August 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Nice tunes tonight!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

I didn’t even think about it. Its just the name of the tune. Then the moderator spit it out. LOL!

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

Thanks, Dire.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:15 AM

It’s an op ed piece posted online. Do you know how to read an income statement or balance sheet?
Do you understand what it means when projected Q4 2013 earnings are estimated at $4.00 per share? Can you help us understand the ‘bankruptcy’ path you’re insisting? Facts and numbers matter.

bayam on August 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Actually, yes I can. They are losing money hand over fist with Opel, they are losing market share in the US. They can only run for so long before all the BS they have spread bites them in the arse again.

http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3022-autosales.html

this won’t help either

http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/08/27/canadian-auto-workers-chrysler-gm-ford-workers-authorize-possible-strike/

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM

This is going to be fun. No Easy Day, the new first-person account of the killing of Bin Laden has had its publication date moved up a week because of demand, and is already #1 on the Amazon and BN-dot-com best-seller lists.

So when people start talking about seeing the movie and reading the book, the question will arise: which book? The SEALs version or Obama’s?

de rigueur on August 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

I think it was originally planned on being released on 11 Sep, what’s their time frame for release now? any idea if the Holywood movie is supposed to be released before the elections too?

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 2:17 AM

I’ll Take Care of You

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:17 AM

…the ‘fact checkers’ will argue back and forth over ‘closed production’ vs ‘idled’ during e next day, but they will still not be able to claim that that was a factoid in ryan’s speech, since the factory closed in 2009..

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

I don’t see how semantics about “closed” or “idle” helps them with the quotes that Canopfor provided and in your 1:51 post.

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 1:51 AM

And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need

to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years. The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it’s where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America;

right here in Wisconsin; and that’s the future I’ll fight for as your President.

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 1:43 AM

…Obama is plainly stating that with Government support (like the bailout)…that the plant will be there for another hundred years.

…Obama states that he “wants it to thrive”……

Well…..”idle” or “closed” is not thriving. and they got plenty of “government help” with 90 billion dollars of “support” sunk into it.

This is going to play out just like the “you didn’t build it” line.
Obama and his allies in the press will bend themselves into a pretzel trying to make his words mean something else….but anybody with a least a double digit IQ will see that Obama promised success there ….and delivered failure instead.

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 2:17 AM

For those having trouble with kitteh music: Duetto Buffo de due Gatti

de rigueur on August 30, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Nice tunes tonight!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

I just finished watching Ryan’s speech. What did you think?

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Groaning the Blues

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

How about this one, Jack?

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Sky Is Crying

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Crying? I can’t stand that.

John the Libertarian on August 30, 2012 at 2:19 AM

canopfor on August 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Later…..

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 2:20 AM

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 2:11 AM

Thanks. You and canopfor have Obama nailed with this. In full agreement with:

Well…..”idle” or “closed” is not thriving. and they got plenty of “government help” with 90 billion dollars of “support” sunk into it.

This is going to play out just like the “you didn’t build it” line.
Obama and his allies in the press will bend themselves into a pretzel trying to make his words mean something else….but anybody with a least a double digit IQ will see that Obama promised success there ….and delivered failure instead.

Baxter Greene on August 30, 2012 at 2:17 AM

de rigueur on August 30, 2012 at 2:21 AM

I just finished watching Ryan’s speech. What did you think?

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

My top three were:
1–Ryan
2–Huckabee (Yep. I know it’s crazy but there ya go.)
3–Rice

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:21 AM

I just finished watching Ryan’s speech. What did you think?

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

It sucked and was full of lying lies. The man is clearly a racist who hates the 99 percent and eats dogs off of the roof of his car.

John the Libertarian on August 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 2:04 AM

Lol.

Irregardless, I think Dave is still voting for Gary Johnson.

SparkPlug on August 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Good tune, nice harp.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:23 AM

The car that has most recently vanished from the marketplace, I found to be a great little ride was the Solstice. I really thought the design on the intro model was kick a s s. I even liked the coupe, though I don’t think it ever made it into production. I’m a truck guy, but my better half likes the small two seaters, we had thought of maybe replacing hers with the Solstice. I guess in hide sight I’m glad we didn’t. Good looking little car IMHO.

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:23 AM

John the Libertarian on August 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

Sometimes you have to go with what you feel.

Excellent tune, John. Nice to see you tonight.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:24 AM

Why do republicans always want to drown black people?

SparkPlug on August 30, 2012 at 2:24 AM

I think it was originally planned on being released on 11 Sep, what’s their time frame for release now? any idea if the Holywood movie is supposed to be released before the elections too?

jimver on August 30, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Book release being moved up to Tuesday next week, one week earlier than planned. Sony has set December the release date for the Bigelow movie, Zero Dark Thirty. Trailer here. Doesn’t show much. And no mention of Obama.

de rigueur on August 30, 2012 at 2:26 AM

For all you guys on this plant closing argument, IIRC I think that similar things happened several times:

Obama goes to some business, campaigning perpetually, and speaks to the hostag–I mean, workers about how HE’S going to help them. They just need some friendly government help–that’s all.

Less than one week later, the business shuts down.

(I’d look for concrete examples, but I’m not on duty, tonight. Have this, instead. Feels proper after tonight.)

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:27 AM

The car that has most recently vanished from the marketplace, I found to be a great little ride was the Solstice. I really thought the design on the intro model was kick a s s. I even liked the coupe, though I don’t think it ever made it into production. I’m a truck guy, but my better half likes the small two seaters, we had thought of maybe replacing hers with the Solstice. I guess in hide sight I’m glad we didn’t. Good looking little car IMHO.

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:23 AM

Those Studebakers were ahead of their time. Quality throughout and couldn’t compete therefore

kenny on August 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

My top three were:
1–Ryan
2–Huckabee (Yep. I know it’s crazy but there ya go.)
3–Rice

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:21 AM

So you liked the Ryan speech then.

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

Have You Ever Loved A Woman

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

It sucked and was full of lying lies. The man is clearly a racist who hates the 99 percent and eats dogs off of the roof of his car.

John the Libertarian on August 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

Don’t forget about pushing black grandmothers off of cliffs. Or, as Dave would say, throwing them over the bus!

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:24 AM

Good evening, Jackie. Hope all is well with your endeavors.

John the Libertarian on August 30, 2012 at 2:29 AM

So you liked the Ryan speech then.

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

You didn’t? Hey…is this about that missing t-shirt?

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:29 AM

It was a good night. That’s for sure. He had a lot of great moments, but the one that will win the most new votes was probably his talk about his mothers efforts to start a new career.

You can hear grandma’s across the country saying, “That Paul Ryan seems like such a nice young man, and smart too.”

stldave on August 30, 2012 at 2:30 AM

It sucked and was full of lying lies. The man is clearly a racist who hates the 99 percent and eats dogs off of the roof of his car.

John the Libertarian on August 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

So you liked the Ryan speech then.

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:30 AM

It sucked and was full of lying lies. The man is clearly a racist who hates the 99 percent and eats dogs off of the roof of his car.

John the Libertarian on August 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

So you liked the Ryan speech then.

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:30 AM

rotflmao!

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Have You Ever Loved A Woman

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

I’m sure you know this one.

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:33 AM

Bottom line on the Repubs this year. They are set for a blowout. Even the young. This one is a wrap.

kenny on August 30, 2012 at 2:33 AM

John the Libertarian on August 30, 2012 at 2:29 AM

Works going very well. Too well. 7 days a week. Actually sold that project we discussed.

How about you?

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:33 AM

Obama goes to some business, campaigning perpetually, and speaks to the hostag–I mean, workers about how HE’S going to help them. They just need some friendly government help–that’s all.

Less than one week later, the business shuts down.

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:27 AM

Caterpillar comes to mind.

You’re right, there are more. Pero, hasta mañana.

de rigueur on August 30, 2012 at 2:34 AM

The car that has most recently vanished from the marketplace, I found to be a great little ride was the Solstice. I really thought the design on the intro model was kick a s s. I even liked the coupe, though I don’t think it ever made it into production. I’m a truck guy, but my better half likes the small two seaters, we had thought of maybe replacing hers with the Solstice. I guess in hide sight I’m glad we didn’t. Good looking little car IMHO.

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:23 AM

It was a pretty car, so was the Saturn Sky… but since Saturn was non-union, well just sayin :)

uncommon sense on August 30, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

thought it was excellent!..Anytime AC/DC nd Zeppelin are in a speech it is all good!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Those Studebakers were ahead of their time. Quality throughout and couldn’t compete therefore

kenny on August 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

I have heard that from several folks. I know they also made trucks, pickups, I believe. Apparently those are very sought after as well. I see them occasionally on a site I follow that has old farm trucks for sale. Interesting place in Minot ND. Do you or did you have a Studebaker kenny?

Bmore on August 30, 2012 at 2:35 AM

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:33 AM

Yes. Nice transitional phase of Clapton’s career. Excellent tune.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Have You Ever Loved A Woman

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

I recommend this. I love all things Clapton, but preferred him when he was junked up. Amazing two-CD show Live At The Fillmore. One of those albums you can cue up and listen to over and over and over and never get bored.

John the Libertarian on August 30, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Merry Go Round

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:37 AM

thought it was excellent!..Anytime AC/DC nd Zeppelin are in a speech it is all good!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Going for the youth vote? The stoner vote?

Yes. Nice transitional phase of Clapton’s career. Excellent tune.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Yeah. I think all of the Clapton is God stuff got to him. (The heroin might have had something to do with it, too.)

RedCrow on August 30, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Comment pages: 1 14 15 16 17 18