Democracy Corps poll shows Romney up 15 among independents

posted at 12:41 pm on August 29, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Via Suitably Flip and RCP, the latest poll from James Carville’s Democracy Corps should have the sirens wailing over at Team Obama.  The topline numbers show Barack Obama with a two-point lead over Mitt Romney, 49/47, down from a 4-point lead in July.  The new sample is D+6 at 38/32/28, only a slight change from July’s D+5 at 38/33/25, a margin-of-error change from one poll to the next (which is true of the topline change, from 50/46, as well).  However, there are a couple of big red flags in the data that hint at a much different race than what the toplines represent.

First, take a look at the independent vote for the race, which in this format is the fourth column:

That’s a 15-point lead for Romney among independents, 53.4/38.0.  Fifteen points.  Just to remind everyone, in the D+7 turnout of 2008 in a Democratic wave election, Obama won independents by eight points, 52/44, on his way to a seven-point victory overall.  That’s a 23-point shift in this key demographic, way outside the margin of error, and it’s hard to square that with a two-point Obama lead now.

Nor is that the only problem in the demos.  Take a look at the gender gap, which Obama won by a combined 14 points in 2008.  Romney wins men by 3.5 points now (Obama edged John McCain by one in 2008), and Obama only leads by 6.7 points among women, 51.7/45.0.  That’s a combined gender gap of 3.2 points, a drop of ten points in this measure from 2008.

If Obama loses independents outside of the margin of error and only gets a gender gap within the MoE, he’s toast.

Update: The split with women was 51.7/45.0, not 41.0.  I’ve fixed it above.

Update II: I screwed up the first edit by saying that the gap among women was 9 points; I had that right originally, but rewrote the passage and introduced a new error.  This video clip seems to apply best:


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We need to be motivated by the past, present and future.

Remember how it felt when the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare. Carry that with you.

See the garbage MSM tricks being pulled trying to convince America to stay on a broken path. Carry that with you.

Imagine that January 20, 2013 arrives and Barack Obama has his hand raised in the air in front of John Roberts for a second time. Carry that with you.

We must win.

Red Cloud on August 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Lemons LEMONADE!

tommyhawk on August 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

That’s, uh, Corpse, uh, you idiots. Democracy Corpse!

- The Commie

OhEssYouCowboys on August 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Time to increase the Dems and decrease the Reps to get the “right” result.

Gunlock Bill on August 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

WOW.

pambi on August 29, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Wow… This is going to seriously piss Obama off, do they make suppositories out of cocaine? Somebody’s gong to need one to ease the butthurt…

SWalker on August 29, 2012 at 12:45 PM

he’s toast

It’s over for the Dems. If we were only to measure the joy and optimism of Ann’s speech, that’s all we need to see. People want to be happy again.

John the Libertarian on August 29, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Wow. Independents must really hate the womyns and black people.
/sarc

gwelf on August 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Will 15 points be beyond the margin of cheating? I dunno. Ask voters in Nevada and Minnesota.

Harbingeing on August 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Carville is the only Dem willing to shout that their house is on fire.

The MSM…not so much.

WisRich on August 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Time to increase the Dems and decrease the Reps to get the “right” result.

Gunlock Bill on August 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

In another month, they’ll have to go D+20 just to make it close.

Bitter Clinger on August 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM

If Obama loses independents outside of the margin of error and only gets a gender gap within the MoE, he’s toast.

Are you hinting here that his skin is darker? I found the dog whistle, folks!

Archivarix on August 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM

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hillsoftx on August 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM

51.7 – 41.0 = ?

WordsMatter on August 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM

There’s also a new Gallup poll showing the Won’s approval rating sliding from 48 to 43 since August 12th.

BacaDog on August 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM

OMG! Please let this continue, please! bho being toast would be a early Christmas gift for me(the only one I want)!
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letget on August 29, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Ras tracking today
Barry 46 Romney 45 . Barry +1. Trending back from +3 8/27. and +2 8/28

Resurgent Republic 1000LV Obama 46, Romney 45 Obama +1
R 29.4
I 29.4
D 37.8

with a +8 Dem skew.

All these before the Ann Romney speech and the Death Star roll out.

bayview on August 29, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Nate Silver’s statistical model hardest hit.

WordsMatter on August 29, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Don’t go to Yahoo news to read feedback of Ann’s speech. If I had mini bar in my office I’d be in it by now.

earlgrey133 on August 29, 2012 at 12:50 PM

WHY VOTE FOR THE gop?

Has there been ANY mention of WHAT OBAMA has done to the Country at this Convention?

Why is someone LIKEABLE when they are TRYING TO DESTROY the country my children will inherit?

gop convention = missed opportunity because these same squishy “independents” will be back in Obamas camp next week.

the republican leadership still sucking since 1988.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM

I hope that idiot Boehner is down about 50 points. What a whimpering idiot, pathetic speech and then he ran out as fast as he could. I was thankful he didn’t cry. We need to listen to his speech and then “throw him out”.

ultracon on August 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Death Star roll out.

Advertising = Death Star???

earlgrey133 on August 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM

We all know that the DNC will just be a hatefest, since they have nothing to run on. Although, it’d be interesting to see if the typical bounce a party receives is actually negative after their convention is over. There are way too many faithful acolytes in the church of 0bama, so who knows.

Tuari on August 29, 2012 at 12:52 PM

15 point lead with 28 percent independents, and a 2 point lead for Obama with D +6 does not compute, unless they have Republicans voting for Obama in numbers larger than normal.

I just did the math, and unless a larger than normal amount of Republicans plan to vote for Obama than the usual 5-10% you see in polls, the numbers are wrong.

milcus on August 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM

It’s mortifying to me as a woman that Obama runs ahead of Romney with women in these polls. Aside from those women whose lives revolve around their reproductive organs (which they don’t want to use for that purpose and if, heaven forbid, despite their “free” birth control they end up pregnant, they can’t wait to get rid of “it”) or women on welfare or union hags, to what women does he appeal and why?

Personally, I find it arrogant and insultng that he thinks I need the government to protect me or run my life.

natasha333 on August 29, 2012 at 12:54 PM

If Obama loses independents outside of the margin of error and only gets a gender gap within the MoE, he’s toast.

Isn’t that racist? (Like every criticism of Obama.)

rogaineguy on August 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM

OT, but I saw this at AOS, and wanted to spread the word:

There is a fundraiser for the family of Isabella Tennant.
That’s the little girl that went missing in Niagara Falls over the weekend. Her body was found yesterday stuffed in a trash sack; she was strangled. The family does not sound like it has much money.

http://www.indiegogo.com/IsabellaTennant

Vashta.Nerada on August 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM

…and so ends Obama’s dream of fundamentally transforming America into a 3rd world backwater.

cartooner on August 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM

cautiously optimistic….

but it will be so fun to watch tingles and the gang on nov 6th

cmsinaz on August 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM

51.7 – 41.0 = ?

WordsMatter on August 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Typo on my part. It’s 51.7/45.0. I’ve fixed it, and thanks!

Ed Morrissey on August 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM

heh.

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM

There’s also a new Gallup poll showing the Won’s approval rating sliding from 48 to 43 since August 12th.

BacaDog on August 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Time to throw more “free stuff” at the targeted groups. Maybe pull the trigger on student loan forgiveness or something.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Chris Mathews has decided that these numbers mean racism racism is evident within the electorate……. particularly if there is any discussion of food stamps, identification, or work.

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 12:58 PM

cautiously optimistic….

but it will be so fun to watch tingles and the gang on nov 6th

cmsinaz on August 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Even more fun to watch the rat-eared bastard and Mooch headed to that Air Force plane on January 20th.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2012 at 12:58 PM

That’s, uh, Corpse, uh, you idiots. Democracy Corpse!

- The Commie

OhEssYouCowboys on August 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

DAMN YOU FOR BEATING ME TO THIS!!! DAMN YOU TO THE DEMOCRAT NATIONAL CONVENTION!!!

Just kidding!

Talon on August 29, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Wait until the effects of Ann Romney speech.

Corporate wives rule.

faraway on August 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM

We don’t dare say his name!!!

SouthernGent on August 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM

That’s a 23-point shift in this key demographic, way outside the margin of error, and it’s hard to square that with a two-point Obama lead now.

the sound you hear is Jay Carney’s rear passage slamming shut……

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM

We all know that the DNC will just be a hatefest, since they have nothing to run on. Although, it’d be interesting to see if the typical bounce a party receives is actually negative after their convention is over. There are way too many faithful acolytes in the church of 0bama, so who knows.

Tuari on August 29, 2012 at 12:52 PM

I’ve got to wonder if spending so much time on abortion and sluts like Sandra Fluke will put off traditional Democrats who otherwise wouldn’t give voting for the rat-eared bastard a second thought.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Romney is much higher than 3.5% among men, take this to the bank… I think that this poll had way oversampled some age group among men where Romney support is equal or even less than Obama…

mnjg on August 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM

This is nice, but it would also be helpful if someone at the GOP Convention would grow a set and clearly depict the President as the disgrace that he is, instead of being so terrified to say his freaking name.

Right Mover on August 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM

New poll (retweeted by Robert Stacy McCain) showing TODD AKIN has re-taken the lead over the dingwah Claire McCaskshrill in Missouri.

Paging Reince Prius to the RNC Senate phone stat.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Mrs. America is really going to help Romney here…..

and by Mrs. America, I mean the pretty blonde in the red dress that talked about him last night—not the scowly malcontent.

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM

milcus on August 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM

There are probably a fair number of lying about party affiliations when people answer questions from a pollster doing a political poll.
And Dems are more likely to lie, it is in their genes and upbringings.

bayview on August 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM

OT: I just got a fundraising letter from Todd Akin. The return line was contact @ akin dot org so I sent this response (hasn’t bounced yet):

Get out of the race you selfish jerk. Believe it or not, here in the real world it is possible to say things breathtakingly stupid and insensitive that would cause you to lose your job. You have done more damage to the pro-life cause than NARAL, NOW and Planned Parenthood could ever dream possible. I hope you’re happy.

The Count on August 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Typo on my part. It’s 51.7/45.0. I’ve fixed it, and thanks!

Ed Morrissey on August 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Thank goodness for typos! heh.

WordsMatter on August 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Right Mover on August 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM

They did call out Obama in the earlier speeches. Just not the primetime speeches, which I suspect is by design.

John the Libertarian on August 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Axelturd’s comb over just connected with his porn star moustache. :)

NapaConservative on August 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Mitt is not a true conservative and only Sarah Palin has a chance to beat Obama.

I was told that repeatedly by the TrueCons ©.

rickyricardo on August 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Nate Silver’s statistical model hardest hit.

WordsMatter on August 29, 2012 at 12:49 PM

This fool Nate Silver has no prediction model. He just analyzes the stupid polls regarldess of how biased they are… The same goes for the so called “prediction experts” on our side like the fool Sean Trende who is quoted frequently here…

mnjg on August 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Oh Lord, please rescue our country. I believe that you allowed this monster into office as a reminder to us, that we need to turn more towards you and less towards man made government. You know the hearts of men and I ask you to spare us from this man called obama…..Amen

crosshugger on August 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM

and Obama only leads by 9 points among women

quick fellas. Up the number of dancing vajayjays and inflatable uteruses by a dozen and order up another truckload of rubberz!!!
/@DNC

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM

New poll (retweeted by Robert Stacy McCain) showing TODD AKIN has re-taken the lead over the dingwah Claire McCaskshrill in Missouri.

Paging Reince Prius to the RNC Senate phone stat.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM

It’s time for a Right To Life Party. Let’s see how they do in the real political world. Probably as successful as Ron Paul.

rickyricardo on August 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM

quick fellas. Up the number of dancing vajayjays and inflatable uteruses by a dozen and order up another truckload of rubberz!!!
/@DNC

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Yes, we need more ironically worded sign that read “Lesbians Hate Bush”

NapaConservative on August 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM

sign = signs

NapaConservative on August 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Yes, we need more ironically worded sign that read “Lesbians Hate Bush”

NapaConservative on August 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM

conversely, “this gum tastes like rubber!”

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 1:08 PM

New poll (retweeted by Robert Stacy McCain) showing TODD AKIN has re-taken the lead over the dingwah Claire McCaskshrill in Missouri.

Paging Reince Prius to the RNC Senate phone stat.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Nope, he still should not get a single penny… May be the RNC or SuperPAC would run ads against McCaskill but not to mention any support for this fool Akin…

mnjg on August 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM

the sound you hear is Jay Carney’s rear passage slamming shut……

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM

We’re all clenching now. :)

Mitt is not a true conservative and only Sarah Palin has a chance to beat Obama.

I was told that repeatedly by the TrueCons ©.

rickyricardo on August 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM

All right.

But the GOP will betray you.

For the TrueCons™ !

Axe on August 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM

This poll is code for racist………….
.
.
……….Chris Matthews.

JPeterman on August 29, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Wow… This is going to seriously piss Obama off, do they make suppositories out of cocaine? Somebody’s gong to need one to ease the butthurt…

SWalker on August 29, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Looool :)…is renalin aka Preparation H is around by any chance? He can be obama’s butthurt relief :)…

jimver on August 29, 2012 at 1:10 PM

conversely, “this gum tastes like rubber!”

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 1:08 PM

and these tic tacs are arranged neatly, but have a strange taste as well

NapaConservative on August 29, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Last time something like this happened President Obama did the policy equivalent of pooping himself in public by panicking and ordering a random DHS amnesty for what is now over 2 million illegal aliens after claiming for 3 years he needed Congress to act first. This one should be fun.

JeremiahJohnson on August 29, 2012 at 1:11 PM

I mean the pretty blonde in the red dress that talked about him last night—not the scowly malcontent.

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM

She looks like a corporate wife to me /Juan Williams

Trafalgar on August 29, 2012 at 1:12 PM

The polls are amazing. In every poll Romney leases amongst independents by double digits yet somehow trails overall.

mitchellvii on August 29, 2012 at 1:12 PM

romney has more Rs than bam has Ds, and indys are +15 romney. and topline if obama by 1. i dont have time to look at the matyh on that, but that is on its face rediculous.

t8stlikchkn on August 29, 2012 at 1:13 PM

SOUND THE FREE HOME MORTGAGES ALARM!

Varchild on August 29, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Looool :)…is renalin aka Preparation H is around by any chance? He can be obama’s butthurt relief :)…

jimver on August 29, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Where are the ABR nutballs?

Even the leftys are somewhat subdued.

cozmo on August 29, 2012 at 1:14 PM

This poll is code for racist………….
.
.
……….Chris Matthews.

JPeterman on August 29, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Chris Matthews is code for borderline intellectual functioning…

jimver on August 29, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Just trying to stop the cascade…

+6 to 10 D sample. Romney is ahead in all of these polls if you correct for the sample.

Whatever it takes to keep O in the lead is what they will do.

B Man on August 29, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Last time something like this happened President Obama did the policy equivalent of pooping himself in public by panicking and ordering a random DHS amnesty for what is now over 2 million illegal aliens after claiming for 3 years he needed Congress to act first. This one should be fun.

JeremiahJohnson on August 29, 2012 at 1:11 PM

King Obama approves the Keystone pipeline in 5…4..3

JPeterman on August 29, 2012 at 1:17 PM

She looks like a corporate wife to me /Juan Williams

Trafalgar on August 29, 2012 at 1:12 PM

tell you what, Juan-O, we’re going to turn her into a “corporate first lady”…..how you like them apples?

ted c on August 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM

New poll (retweeted by Robert Stacy McCain) showing TODD AKIN has re-taken the lead over the dingwah Claire McCaskshrill in Missouri.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM

That is a poll commissioned and paid for by the Family Research Council.It gave no internals, and probably is as reliable as the PPP push poll that the moron cited. It also has a MOE of 3.38% and 13% undecided.

bayview on August 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Romney said something that Christ Christie said “he probably shouldn’t have said” when Romney mentioned the birth certificate.

Let’s use the TODD AKIN LOGIC here.

Shouldn’t Romney get out of the race since he embarassed himself with that comment?

How about when Romney said he liked to fire people?

Sorry, unless Akin is a complete doofus, and makes comments over and over again like the rape comment then he should go out and take it to McCaskill.

Stop whining about Todd Akin and following the conventional herd based wisdom.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM

BTW, didn’t Zero give a speech or two yesterday ?
Biden ?
That/those may affect the polls even more.
Just so articulate, and all, y’know.

pambi on August 29, 2012 at 1:21 PM

That’s not good enough. We must clear the numbers of dead people, duplicates, the hoardes of people named Mickey Mouse and illegals that will be voting.

We must have a margin where they can’t find a magic box of votes.

This is good, but we can do better.

kim roy on August 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Ed, in the table you posted, it looks like the first column represents totals, the third column Democrats, the fourth column Independents, and the last column Democrats. What does the second column represent, where Obama got 62.4%?

BTW, the partial votes among R, I, and D don’t add up to the totals in the first column. For Obama, 349 + 104 + 23 = 475, but Obama’s total is given as 491. For Romney, 24 + 149 + 291 = 464, but Romney’s total is given as 471. Are Carville and his buddies mathematically challenged, or did they leave something out of this table?

Steve Z on August 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Then I guess you do not need my vote. Which is good, you never were going to get it with Willard My Views are Progressive Mitt Mandates are Good Romney as the nominee. It only got worse when they added the psuedo conservative Paul Lets push off paying for anything until we are all long dead Ryan to the ticket.

You want to run the government with Party A progressive liberal and Party B slightly less progressive liberal, have at it. I wash my hands of it.

Of course, if it turns out you really did need mine and other conservatives votes, perhaps you should try and learn a lesson from your failure.

astonerii on August 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM

“The Romneys are happy to have a party with a black President drowning in the polls.” – Yahoo News’s David Chalian

Doughboy on August 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Even Rasmussen is getting more Democrat respondents than Republicans and Indies. And that usually translates to higher enthusiasm. But other indications are that R’s have higher enthusiasm than D’s. Something is screwy here.

This may be silly to throw out, but, in elections past the D’s have complained that cellphones weren’t being utilized and more and more people were getting cells than landlines therefore the youth was being ignored.

Well now cellphones are being called but I wonder if that means fewer landlines are being contacted and therefore missing much of the elder vote which tends R?

MaggiePoo on August 29, 2012 at 1:23 PM

No worries on their side…I’m sure they’re looking forward to the upcoming abortion party and think “that’ll bring em back!”

Youngs98 on August 29, 2012 at 1:23 PM

bayview on August 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Heh. Is Akin pushing these poll results as a fundraising aid?

a capella on August 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM

New poll (retweeted by Robert Stacy McCain) showing TODD AKIN has re-taken the lead over the dingwah Claire McCaskshrill in Missouri.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM

A poll put out by Tony Perkins shows Akin in the lead. Wow. What a shocking development.

Mark1971 on August 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Looool :)…is renalin aka Preparation H is around by any chance? He can be obama’s butthurt relief :)…

jimver on August 29, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Where are the ABR nutballs?

Even the leftys are somewhat subdued.

cozmo on August 29, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Must be all afflicted by a collective butthurt or something..if that keep them from coming here, hey, I’m all for it, and no preparation H for them, let ‘em suffer :)..

jimver on August 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM

gop convention = missed opportunity because these same squishy “independents” will be back in Obamas camp next week.

the republican leadership still sucking since 1988.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM

When I saw “I am voting for CHANGE” at the convention and then found out she is actually a speaker at the event, I knew that I am beyond being “finished” with the GOP. Time for a new party, no matter what happens on Nov 6th. Nothing but RINOs in GOP these days and judging by their actions no remorse nor will to change.

Any reason one of the best motivational speakers of our time is not at the convention and delivering a speech? I am talking about Allen West. And yet Rice, “I voted for CHANGE in 2008″ is speaking. Beyond stupid and amazing. Same as Huckster, her GOP credentials should have been pulled on the spot in 2008. As well as Powell’s.

riddick on August 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM

A poll put out by Tony Perkins shows Akin in the lead. Wow. What a shocking development.

Mark1971 on August 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Indeed :)…

jimver on August 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Get out of the race you selfish jerk. Believe it or not, here in the real world it is possible to say things breathtakingly stupid and insensitive that would cause you to lose your job. You have done more damage to the pro-life cause than NARAL, NOW and Planned Parenthood could ever dream possible. I hope you’re happy.

The Count

Hyperbole much? Obama thanks you for your help.

xblade on August 29, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Where are the ABR nutballs?

Even the leftys are somewhat subdued.

cozmo on August 29, 2012 at 1:14 PM

One nutball has finally made an appearance.

JPeterman on August 29, 2012 at 1:27 PM

That’s it for me. The RINOs have destroyed ever thing Reagan built. The vitriol toward Akin is the final straw. Take your damn be nice, coddling crap of the real enemy and shove it where the sun don’t shine.

bgibbs1000 on August 29, 2012 at 1:27 PM

A poll put out by Tony Perkins shows Akin in the lead. Wow. What a shocking development.

Mark1971

It’s not shocking at all. If not for the liberal-inspired Pavlovian response of those one our side suffering from genitalia guilt, he likely never would have lost the lead.

xblade on August 29, 2012 at 1:28 PM

New poll (retweeted by Robert Stacy McCain) showing TODD AKIN has re-taken the lead over the dingwah Claire McCaskshrill in Missouri.

Paging Reince Prius to the RNC Senate phone stat.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Told y’all. Akin hasn’t committed murder yet so he should beat McCaskill.

Vince on August 29, 2012 at 1:28 PM

mnjg on August 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Honestly curious – Yesterday, you posted about the poll you have formulated. What sort of track record does your method have, or how accurate is it?

AubieJon on August 29, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Then I guess you do not need my vote. Which is good, you never were going to get it with Willard My Views are Progressive Mitt Mandates are Good Romney as the nominee. It only got worse when they added the psuedo conservative Paul Lets push off paying for anything until we are all long dead Ryan to the ticket.

You want to run the government with Party A progressive liberal and Party B slightly less progressive liberal, have at it. I wash my hands of it.

Of course, if it turns out you really did need mine and other conservatives votes, perhaps you should try and learn a lesson from your failure.

astonerii on August 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Nice rant! Now, what’s your point besides “I’m taking my ball and going home”?

NapaConservative on August 29, 2012 at 1:29 PM

We all know that the DNC will just be a hatefest, since they have nothing to run on

Worry not. There’s always the lies like the number of jobs created, killing Bin Laden, how the world now loves 3rd world America, FREE medical, FREE contraception, FREE car company ownership, FREE amnesty (remember there are still millions more to gift if necessary)……….

katablog.com on August 29, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Doughboy on August 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Good’n.

pambi on August 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM

astonerii on August 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Yes sweetie, you have just admitted to your irrelevance.

jimver on August 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Looks like they were waiting on their talking points asteroid here and little stevie in another thread. Giving pretty much the same threat.

cozmo on August 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Same as Huckster, her GOP credentials should have been pulled on the spot in 2008. As well as Powell’s.

riddick on August 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Fortunately this is the US of A and not your beloved USSR and you can’t pull someone’s ‘GOP credentials’ (whatever that means) just because you don’t like their faces or they are a threat to your interests…but hey, if you miss that kind of bullying tactics, Putin is still doing it in Russia, so you can always give it a try there :)..

jimver on August 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM

tingles just now…

‘the gop actually thinks abortion is murder, their platform is so extreme’

hello

cmsinaz on August 29, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Gotta love these polls. I guess this one counteracts what has to be a joke poll that came from Crain’s Chicago today claiming that Obama is up by leaps and bounds even in the suburban collar counties outside of Crook in Illinois which counteracts a poll from last week that indicated Obutthead was in trouble in Illinois. Please Nov 6, get here fast.

stukinIL4now on August 29, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Even Rasmussen is getting more Democrat respondents than Republicans and Indies. And that usually translates to higher enthusiasm. But other indications are that R’s have higher enthusiasm than D’s. Something is screwy here.

This may be silly to throw out, but, in elections past the D’s have complained that cellphones weren’t being utilized and more and more people were getting cells than landlines therefore the youth was being ignored.

Well now cellphones are being called but I wonder if that means fewer landlines are being contacted and therefore missing much of the elder vote which tends R?

MaggiePoo on August 29, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Do you really believe that answering pollsters calls equals higher enthusiasm?… I get pollsters calls every week but I do not answer them but rather let the calls “robocall” goes into my voicemail…

Answering pollsters calls is by no way is a measurement of enthusiasm…

mnjg on August 29, 2012 at 1:33 PM

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