Quotes of the day

posted at 10:52 pm on August 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

This week will be about more than watching the Weather Channel for Hurricane Isaac updates; it will also represent a chance to take the temperature of the contemporary GOP. If the schedule is anything to go by, the readings will be mixed indeed—on Wednesday night, for example, delegates will be greeted in rapid order by a video of Ron Paul, then Senate Minority Leader and longtime establishment hack Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky), then the man McConnell tried desperately to prevent winning the GOP senatorial primary in Kentucky (Sen. Rand Paul), then after another speaker a man who stands for most everything Ron Paul abhors (Sen. John McCain [R-Arizona]). You can count on one hand, maybe even one finger, the core beliefs those four men share.

The Ron Paul insurgency in particular presents a conundrum to the GOP. Even though some establishmentarian types would love to wash their hands of him, and the liberty movement’s future without its anti-charismatic leader is unclear, Republicans just can’t afford to lose Paul’s 11 percent share of the primary vote…

So the party that hasn’t figured out what it believes cannot afford to alienate any of its members who disagree strongly with one another. Though you will hear a lot this week about Republican unity against President Obama, that masks an ideological peace that at best is fragile, unattractive, and unsatisfying.

***

[I]n some ways, the Republican Party today appears more factionalized — ideologically, politically and culturally — than Republican leaders said they could remember in recent history.

There are evangelicals, Tea Party adherents, supply-siders who would accept no tax increases and a dwindling band of deficit hawks who might. There are economic libertarians who share little of the passion that social conservatives hold on issues like abortion and same-sex marriage. There are neoconservatives who want a hard line against Iran and the Palestinians, and realists who are open to diplomatic deal-cutting…

“For some folks in the party these days, it’s not only the Washington establishment they’re running against. They’re opposed to anything that is perceived as being any kind of establishment, even if they are conservative,” Mr. Quayle said. “To me, that is craziness. The party has got some real challenges coming down the pike. It’s a minority party, and we’ve got to realize that it’s a game of addition, not subtraction.”

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Other presidential campaigns have gotten much further, then folded. But Paul’s people kept up hope. Maybe they could influence the Republican platform. Maybe they could scoop up uncommitted delegates and nominate Paul anyway. Maybe they could force the convention to a third ballot—which would free up delegates to look into their souls and vote for Dr. No…

The common theme: Ron Paul could still win, if these bastards didn’t keep taking delegates away. A group of Maine delegates walked around PAUL Fest in matching baseball caps, explaining how the state party had taken half their votes away in a series of arguments before the larger, pro-Romney Republican National Committee. It was so rotten, such obvious cheating, that Maine’s Republican governor was refusing to come to Tampa…

This is what outsiders don’t understand: Oodles of Paul supporters believe that the delegate switch-ups literally cost them a chance at the nomination. James DiPasquale, a Florida activist who watched some friends try and fail to become delegates, argues that Paul could win if the contest stretched on for a few ballots. (There has been no multi-ballot convention for decades.) “If every delegate was allowed to vote his conscience,” he asks, “how many of them really would want to vote for Romney? It would be a landslide for Ron Paul.”

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Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee has a message for Ron Paul supporters who say they feel “disrespected” by the Republican Party’s delegate allocation process: You lost, move on.

“I don’t think they’ve been disrespected,” Huckabee told a gaggle of reporters as we walked through the convention center here near the Tampa Bay Times Forum. “Elections are about—you get numbers. I lost four years ago, and I didn’t feel disrespected as much as I felt defeated. You have to accept that the voters make a choice and the voters made a choice.”…

Huckabee has called Paul supporters “fanatical believers” who “don’t represent mainstream Americans.”

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Mr. Paul’s backers here exemplified the eclectic cross-section of the old, the young, politicians, musicians and anti-war advocates he drew together with his libertarian message. And it was difficult to find anyone who was ready to move on…

Danielle Alexandre, 33, a political analyst for the Liberty Underground radio show in Florida, said Mr. Paul’s movement was larger than the man. She, too, plans to vote for [Gary] Johnson.

On “the big issues, I don’t see a big difference between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama,” Ms. Alexandre said. “I’m not one to support the Republicans or support the Democrats.”

But would electing Mr. Romney advance Mr. Paul’s message at all? “No,” she said, shaking her head.

“Burn in hell before you vote for that son of a bitch,” added a man standing nearby.

***

It was Paul’s second attempt at an “alternative convention.” In 2008, he brought supporters to Minneapolis for the “Rally for the Republic.” Tucker Carlson, in his pre-Daily Caller says, emceed the proceedings. I should say: He emceed them until Jesse Ventura spoke and started talking about 9/11, which scared Carlson (and Willie Geist) the hell out of there. Gary Johnson spoke at that rally, when he was a retired politician. Now that he was a Libertarian presidential candidate, he was absent. This was a Ron Paul show, a kind of tribute, and the candidate would use it to say all the things people never let him say. “I don’t do it out of sacrifice,” said the candidate. “I do it out of self-interest. I do it because it’s good for me.”

They say “Osama bin Laden would still be alive if we listened to you,” said Paul. “You know what I say? So would the 3000 people killed on 9/11!” That, and every sticking-it-to-the-neocons comment, got huge cheers. When America’s agressive, said Paul, “it’s easier for them to kill us over there than to come over here, where the Second Amendment is alive and well.”

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Via Mediaite.

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“I think a big part of sort of the libertarian Republican or the Ron Paul Republicans is that I think they can help the Republican Party,” he said. “There’s many places in New England as well as California where we’re not winning statewide races. It’s very difficult for Republicans to win. So I think embracing and bringing in these liberty-minded, Constitution-minded people and making them an integral part of the party is the way we might start winning races where we’re not winning races.”



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FloatingRock on August 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Fair enough. Both parties have been big government for decades. Even if you could get a libertarian elected president what could they really do against entrenched congress critters. You appear to be fighting the wrong battle. Congress needs to be drastically overhauled. A lot more small government conservatives/libertarians need to be elected to change the culture.

chemman on August 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Lanceman on August 27, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Neil Young

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9SMXkpowo0

SparkPlug on August 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM

The changes need to be reviewed to make sure that they don’t do things to more firmly entrench the establishment against the Tea Party conservatives. I do know that rule changes here in AZ were done specifically for that purpose.

AZfederalist on August 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Thanks for the info..Very informative..:):)

PS..I agree with you that the rules should not harm the conservative grassroots of the GOP..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

… or, thousands of men in coastal Texas elected him to Congress to keep him away from his practice and patients.

AZfederalist on August 27, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Are you serious?

RP has delivered, I don’t know hundreds of baby’s, making hundred’s of family’s happy & complete. He has stood for his principles against all odds, whether you agree or not.

What the H*ll have you EVER done for anyone else? Except maybe force your ridiculous wants and needs on the rest of us.

You are pathetic. Grow up and stop blaming others for your lot in life.

RP does not deserve your derision, particularly for being a man who cares and stands for something.

ccrosby on August 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM

AZfederalist on August 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM
bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM

I think concerns over RP may have instigated this, but it serves to squelch local and state party influence over their delegates. I have read of Romney supporters in Tampa who are against the delegate rule.

I saw a Committee member who had tweeted that squelching the grass roots was not the intent, but that’s hard to believe. The GOP hasn’t exactly been enthused about them.

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:12 AM

OldEnglish on August 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Hello!..How are things Down Under??..:)

PS..I watched an Aussie movie Tomorrow When the War Began the other day..Nice flick..Reminded me of Red Dawn..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:14 AM

PointnClick on August 27, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Buena buena buena buena good good good!

Kenosha Kid on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

INC on August 27, 2012 at 11:58 PM

At the same time, the revised language closes a loophole in our party rules, which previously failed to include a penalty for delegates who break their promise to vote for a particular Presidential candidate as required by state law or state party rules.

LOL, I think this “agreement” may have made matters worse. Check out the Update#3 at: http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/08/malkin-grassroots-activists-battle-attempt-to-rig-gop-convention-delegate-rules.html

I thot the ones signing that letter was one sided:-) I’m not sure this is to the advantage of the Delegates yet. Waiting until we hear from them.

Also, this language is legal. Who is giving the Delegates legal advice?

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Dire Straits, QOTD song. Devolution! Ron Paul style.

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Blue and Evil

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

The Ron Paul insurgency in particular presents a conundrum to the GOP. Even though some establishmentarian types would love to wash their hands of him, and the liberty movement’s future without its anti-charismatic leader is unclear, Republicans just can’t afford to lose Paul’s 11 percent share of the primary vote…

Ron Paul worked his butt off in hte primaries to shut down the soc con candidates. From my vantage, that is the only reason he was there.

He carried water for the RINOs and apparently is still carrying water for the RINOs.

He is not naive, however, ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’ has gotten him some useful friends. It is not like they are going to let him win anything, but they will give him a platform to neutralize their shared enemies

The Club would rather have a Ron Paul dissident group, than a soc con anti amnesty dissident group any day. Hope springs eternal

In the vernacular he aint stupid but he aint my buddy neither

entagor on August 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Fair enough. Both parties have been big government for decades. Even if you could get a libertarian elected president what could they really do against entrenched congress critters. You appear to be fighting the wrong battle. Congress needs to be drastically overhauled. A lot more small government conservatives/libertarians need to be elected to change the culture.

chemman on August 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Most of the ones we sent to Congress in ’10 are indistinguishable from the establishment now. They talk and vote the same and so are now part of the problem. Doing the same thing over again, and failing again, isn’t going to help, not unless they also have a reform minded leader at the top to rally the American people in favor of reforms, and that’s what Gary Johnson did in his state when he was governor. He has more executive experience than Obama, Romney, Ryan and Biden combined.

All Americans need to do to get out of the rut is vote for Gary Johnson. They don’t even have to work hard, all of them, because he’s already slated to be on everybody’s ballot in November. All they have to do to get out of the rut is to resolve themselves to do so.

FloatingRock on August 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM

MM–

And one last update from stalwart foot soldier on the ground, Drew McKissick, who e-mails tonight:

Just as an update, it’s been a busy evening as you’ve probably gathered. It looks like there’s an acceptable compromise on the table on rule 15/16, but nothing yet on them pulling back the new “rule 12″, which lets the RNC change the rules between conventions.

They try to sell this to people with the idea that it is a high bar (75%), but a few things:

1) As longtime conservative activist and RNC committeeman from VA Morton Blackwell points out, this is no safeguard, because the chairman generally gets whatever the chairman wants. No disrespect intended to Priebus in that, but who knows who the next chairman may be. He points out that the chair always has lots of favors to give away.

2) The RNC has never had this power before (with the minor exception limited to the fixing of the primary calendar issue in 2008 in order to coordinate w/various state governments and Democrats). Rule making authority has ALWAYS been with the convention…and it remains set for 4 years…so ALL campaigns or potential campaigns konw what the rules will be. If the RNC has this authority, it will soon become a battleground for various presidential contenders looking to monkey with the rules to give themselves a leg up over the competition.

3) If this is so necesary for some specific purpose, why not limit it to that purpose? Kind of makes you wonder…

Bottom line, everyone I’ve talked to so far is holding fast on objecting to Rule 12 and supportive of a minority report…as well as having the states necessary to require a roll call vote on it if necessary.

All that needs to happen to turn this off is for them to agree to pull this rule back at the same time they move the compromise on Rule 15/16. Then we can all go have a beer can celebrate and then start focusing on fighting Democrats.

Please encourage people to continue to contact Rules Committee members and party leaders and keep the pressure on opposing Rule 12.

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

canopfor on August 27, 2012 at 11:25 PM

One source I read thought the rule changes was purposefully brought up at the last minute in order to get them through before people would have a chance to regroup and fight against them. At another place I read Sununu closed the meeting and left quickly before he could be approached about minority dissent. Of course, handling it that way only makes people angrier. Some in the GOP seems to have once again misunderestimated the grass roots.

INC on August 27, 2012 at 11:30 PM

INC:

Sorry for the late response,it sounds like this won’t go
away,anytime soon!:)

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I’m going to go with this one..:)

PS..Didn’t everyone have this cassette??!!??..:):)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Very nice!

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Nice..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:21 AM

AZfederalist on August 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM
bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM

I think concerns over RP may have instigated this, but it serves to squelch local and state party influence over their delegates. I have read of Romney supporters in Tampa who are against the delegate rule.

I saw a Committee member who had tweeted that squelching the grass roots was not the intent, but that’s hard to believe. The GOP hasn’t exactly been enthused about them.

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:12 AM

This may have been to avoid a floor fight with Ron Paul now. But those rules they passed and the final vote tomorrow before 2PM were for the future, like 2016!! Jeb Bush anyone? This is a power play to have the Convention have a say over the State and their Delegates.

Levin said there are two Republican Parties. One is the RNC & the other is the Karl Rove Pac. They can control Candidates at the State level and then at the Convention level via these new rules they passed. All about Power & Control; shut out the Tea Party, Conservatives and take power from the States. They sound just like the Dems.

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Also, this language is legal. Who is giving the Delegates legal advice?

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I’m sure there are delegates who are attorneys. They just have to get their ducks in a row quickly. I’m sure the agreement is being read with a jaundiced eye by many because the trust is so low.

Trying to pull this rule revision maneuver was a stupid move. The GOP establishment appears to have learned zilch from the actions of the Tea Party the last few years.

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:23 AM

You can trust Dr.
Deans skills. I’ll take a pass.

wolly4321 on August 28, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Ok, this is getting really f***ing old here. Most of the videos posted to Hot Air can’t even be viewed in their entirely because of this auto-refresh BS.

People don’t care about seeing the latest comments. When they want to see them, they’ll refresh page. And they sure as sh!t don’t care about seeing more ads.

Dirt McGirt on August 28, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I saw HAL today! I guess we didn’t wind it sufficiently, after all! :)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:24 AM

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

That’s OK. It’s easy to miss things with tabs open and checking other things out.

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:25 AM

MeanWhile……………………………

Texas delegates planning floor mutiny over RNC rules changes
5 Hours ago
************
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/texas-delegates-planning-floor-mutiny-over-rnc-rules-225837647.html

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Ron Paul style.

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I will go with this one!..:)

This is a masterpiece..imho!..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Excellent!:)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:28 AM

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:26 AM

A late night for some folks working on this!

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Please encourage people to continue to contact Rules Committee members and party leaders and keep the pressure on opposing Rule 12.

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Thanks for the update. I know people working in Tampa on this issue deserve kudos in keeping others aware. Blackwell is absolutely correct in his assessment. Too much at stake.

Romney & the Chair of the RNC need to answer for this power grab.

I’ll be making calls tomorrow. Also waiting to hear an answer from my County Party Chair. I’m sure they have a direct line to the State Party & the RNC & Romney, LOL

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

That’s OK. It’s easy to miss things with tabs open and checking other things out.

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:25 AM

INC:Yes,tell me about it,getting lost in twitter,especially!:)

https://twitter.com/#!/search/users/%23election2012

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM

But Now I’m Back

My contribution… because now he’s back…RP

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Wouldn’t it be much easier if we were China? No stupid arguments over stupid election rules. No stupid elections, either. All hail the Leader. –Hussein B. Obama

Archivarix on August 28, 2012 at 12:33 AM

You are pathetic. Grow up and stop blaming others for your lot in life.

RP does not deserve your derision, particularly for being a man who cares and stands for something.

ccrosby on August 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Oh, lighten up Francis. It was a joke.

/good grief, and I thought it was only libs who were wound too tight.

AZfederalist on August 28, 2012 at 12:34 AM

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:26 AM

A late night for some folks working on this!

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:31 AM

INC:Yes,I’m attempting a Intell Hunt,on this!:)

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:34 AM

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Thanks! I’ve read your other posts on this, but just now taking a breath!! This is hard work!! I don’t know how you do it, I can’t keep up with myself, LOL

Oh, good for Texas!! Loud and Proud!! Hope other States join in.

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I’m going to go with this one..:)

PS..Didn’t everyone have this cassette??!!??..:):)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Yes, yes they did. Sailing

Evening everyone. Did you happen to see Tesla’s vajayna on the Disrupt Tampa thread?

arnold ziffel on August 28, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Dirt McGirt on August 28, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Auto-refresh is an easy way to increase page views (although it does nothing for unique visitors numbers). Since it’s all about overcharging the advertiser, just like the newspaper biz, it will probably stay.

Adjoran on August 28, 2012 at 12:37 AM

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Very nice..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:37 AM

This one goes out to the R3volut10n…

Up up and Away – The 5th Dimension

You know what type of weather they are having in Tampa? Good weather for a blimp… :)

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2012 at 12:38 AM

My contribution… because now he’s back…RP

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:33 AM

I looked but youtube don’t have songs about hemorroids.

arnold ziffel on August 28, 2012 at 12:38 AM

arnold ziffel on August 28, 2012 at 12:36 AM

A classic for sure!.:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:38 AM

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2012 at 12:38 AM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Look, the delegate rule doesn’t affect anyone who was elected by name, it just gives each candidate a veto over who is going to represent them from the state if the slot isn’t won by an individual. Sticking a candidate with a delegate who won’t follow him after he duly won the delegate isn’t “grassroots activism,” it is old-fashioned sabotage.

But no way the national committee should be authorized to change anything except primary dates. There is very little the conventions actually do nowadays anyway. Supersede their ability to make the rules, and why have them at all?

Adjoran on August 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

i see where operation rescue is threatening to get its people not to vote for Romney unless they get what they want.

there is an odd reverse psychological effect going on. The rational choice would be to support Romney. Barry is pretty much a abortion any time any place for free kinda guy.

Same with akin. Staying in is to choose to lose. And, the paul.bots? well, they keep talking about liberty…and i think they mean the liberty to smoke weed. Ok…barry might do that…but a pretty high cost. and liberty to abort your baby…actually, i don’t know if paul.bots know that paul is rather fervently anti abortion

i’ve always thought that paul.bots were mostly anti-war, pro-pot…so if that’s your two issues, well, maybe socialism is right for you

but i think that both groups are playing up the R fear of obama…taking Rs hostage, saying if you don’t do it my way, then we will blow up the place

charming

r keller on August 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Tainted Love

On second thought, maybe its more like this! :)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:42 AM

…Katie Pavlich is on with Niel Cavuto right now on Fox…I’m in heat….don’t think I’ll read this thread until I’m down swooning…my wife likes it that Katie is single!…what’s that supposed to mean?

KOOLAID2 on August 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM

She’s dating Brandon Darby, I believe.

kim roy on August 28, 2012 at 12:42 AM

arnold ziffel on August 28, 2012 at 12:38 AM

LOL! Good evening, Arnold. Nice to see your piercing green eyes!:)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:43 AM

INC:Yes,I’m attempting a Intell Hunt,on this!:)

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Ha ha. Twitter is always great when things break.

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:34 AM

This is a list I culled from MM and Phyllis Schlafly’s Eagle Forum a few hours ago.

Texas
Arkansas
Colorado
Iowa
Louisiana
Maine
Minnesota
Nevada
North Dakota
Ohio
Virginia
South Carolina
Nebraska
Indiana
Washington

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Oops! I Did It Again

THIS IS IT! This is the definitive RP tribute tune! :)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:44 AM

I saw HAL today! I guess we didn’t wind it sufficiently, after all! :)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Lol! I hope you were at least able to have a wee bit of fun with HAL. Was he still afraid? ; )

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:45 AM

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:44 AM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:19 AM

.
Yes, yes they did. Sailing

Evening everyone. Did you happen to see Tesla’s vajayna on the Disrupt Tampa thread?

arnold ziffel on August 28, 2012 at 12:36 AM

.
THIS . . . is Sailing.

: )
.
But all art is subjective to the individual, too.

listens2glenn on August 28, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Adjoran on August 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

That’s overly optimistic, and doesn’t match with any account I’ve read of the rule: The candidate has veto over all delegates.

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Well…I just observed for a while, a little light recon, you know… but when I approached and simply said ‘HAL’ in my comment, he disappeared again!

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM

but i think that both groups are playing up the R fear of obama…taking Rs hostage, saying if you don’t do it my way, then we will blow up the place

charming

r keller on August 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

This isn’t about Ron Paul per se. Read the comments by INC, M.Malkin etc to get the real power grab going on.

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM

I will go with this one!..:)

This is a masterpiece..imho!..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Pitch perfect as always friend! Certainly one of their best attempts! ; )

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM

I saw Palin’s FB comment about the Rule Changes but now can’t find it, LOL

Anyway, Thanks Sarah!!!

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

All of this bickering over the rules sound like a bunch of immature, nerds playing card games.

Vince on August 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Ron Paul worked his butt off in hte primaries to shut down the soc con candidates. From my vantage, that is the only reason he was there.

entagor on August 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM

If you’re such a great champion of social cons then you’d know that Ron Paul is a genuine pro-life candidate and always has been, unlike your candidate, Romney.

FloatingRock on August 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

LOL! Good evening, Arnold. Nice to see your piercing green eyes!:)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Good to see you too miss Jackie.

I’ve been doing some research lately and can trace ancestry back on both sides to Ireland and Virginia. No wonder I’m such a kind and quiet fellow. :)

That stuff is really addicting and the internet makes things easier. Learned about the Oregon trail and the English getting rid of them damn Irish by packing em off to America. Now they are letting the nice muslims take over.

arnold ziffel on August 28, 2012 at 12:51 AM

arnold ziffel on August 28, 2012 at 12:38 AM

arnold my favorite little piggy, did you see the note I left you the other evening. I’ve been out, but did manage to peek in once or twice. Seems there is a commenter, by the nic gohogs, he may need a visit to Ms. Lamar’s. The oak tree awaits him. ; )

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Sweet Dreams

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:52 AM

listens2glenn on August 28, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Very nice..Beatiful voics..:)

PS..My wife really likes them..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:53 AM

I can understand this if the sole purpose is to neuter the RP morons, but unfortunately it hits the sane people, which is always the case – a few morons ruining it for everyone.

It would be so better to have our fight AFTER the election. All this does is give comfort to the Obama campaign and make us look small time.

It would also be nice if RP would get his loons under control, but I guess this is what the GOP gets for indulging him all this time.

I hope this doesn’t hurt Romney’s chances.

kim roy on August 28, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Well…I just observed for a while, a little light recon, you know… but when I approached and simply said ‘HAL’ in my comment, he disappeared again!

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM

It seems to happen to the ones who get named, but never petted. Funny that way. ; )

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:53 AM

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Pretty hefty list. The party bosses tried to sneak it through at the last minute, didn’t they? I can see major repercussions, even if #12 is deleted. Biiiiig loss of trust.

a capella on August 28, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Republican National Committee rules – Politico
================================================

RE: New Timing Rules for 2012 Republican Presidential Nominating Schedule

On August 6, 2010, the Republican National Committee (“RNC”) amended the timing rules
pertaining to the 2012 presidential nomination process. It is crucial that those responsible in
each state for determining the timing and process for selecting, allocating or binding delegates
to the 2012 Republican National Convention are aware of these changes so that they can make
sure their state is in compliance. The new requirements, contained in Rule No. 15(b) of The
Rules of the Republican Party (the “Rules”), as well as important background and interpretive
information, are contained herein.
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http://www.politico.com/static/PPM152_110228_presidential_sked.html

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:34 AM

This is a list I culled from MM and Phyllis Schlafly’s Eagle Forum a few hours ago.
INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Are those the only States to contact? If not, M.M. listed all of them with phone#’s!! Cool!

Oh, that Yahoo article canopfor linked to is interesting. Some info I hadn’t read elsewhere.
Thanks Canada:-)

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:53 AM

That one seems particularly fragile. Not much fun, although, to be fair, he sits up and insists.

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM

It would also be nice if RP would get his loons under control, but I guess this is what the GOP gets for indulging him all this time.

I hope this doesn’t hurt Romney’s chances.

kim roy on August 28, 2012 at 12:53 AM

I think they are using RP as an excuse. This is aimed at neutering the tea party types.

a capella on August 28, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Dirt McGirt on August 28, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Mr / Mrs. McGirt, there is a fix for that.

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:57 AM

I am so glad he will be gone. It isn’t really him, it is his asshat supporters that get my dander up. They are worse than “progressive” Democrats. Absolutely despicable. Why don’t they go terrorize the Democratic Party?

crosspatch on August 28, 2012 at 12:57 AM

That one seems particularly fragile. Not much fun, although, to be fair, he sits up and insists.

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Lol! I want him to beg. ; )

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:58 AM

arnold my favorite little piggy, did you see the note I left you the other evening. I’ve been out, but did manage to peek in once or twice. Seems there is a commenter, by the nic gohogs, he may need a visit to Ms. Lamar’s. The oak tree awaits him. ; )

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:52 AM

I did not sir. There is a good “gohawgs” and then a poseur.
Missed you on rape Saturday night HA. :)

arnold ziffel on August 28, 2012 at 12:58 AM

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

MM still has the link.
http://michellemalkin.com/2012/08/27/floor-fight-grass-roots-activists-battle-attempt-to-rig-gop-convention-delegate-rules/

That list is several hours old. It’s probably incomplete.

All of this bickering over the rules sound like a bunch of immature, nerds playing card games.

Vince on August 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Read MM’s post over why it’s not.

Those rules determine winners and losers. Have you ever played cards with someone who wanted to change the rules as you went along?

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:59 AM

It would also be nice if RP would get his loons under control, but I guess this is what the GOP gets for indulging him all this time.

I hope this doesn’t hurt Romney’s chances.

kim roy on August 28, 2012 at 12:53 AM

I think they are using RP as an excuse. This is aimed at neutering the tea party types.

a capella on August 28, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Fair enough. I need to learn more about this. I did read that the RP people were causing “issues” earlier today.

kim roy on August 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Knopfler- Silvertown Blues

This reminds me of driving across the country. Running into cities just before dawn, or just after dusk. Listening to the hum of the tires on the road. Video is good.

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:14 AM

G’day, Dire. Doing well, thanks, but can’t wait for 2013 elections. Haven’t seen the movie, but have heard other good reviews.

OldEnglish on August 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Pretty hefty list. The party bosses tried to sneak it through at the last minute, didn’t they? I can see major repercussions, even if #12 is deleted. Biiiiig loss of trust.

a capella on August 28, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Not speaking for INC, just myself:-) Yes they did try to sneak this power grab at the last minute. Romney, Barbour and their Ginsberg Atty. Not sure if it’s settled or not.

We have our Senior HA Researcher on it:-) canopfor Rules!!!

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 12:58 AM

He MUST sing ‘Daisy’! :)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 1:01 AM

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Eagle Forum has a link to a pdf of all the Rules delegates from each state. This post is old, so the states may have changed.

http://www.capwiz.com/eagleforum/issues/alert/?alertid=61768501

INC on August 28, 2012 at 1:02 AM

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I don’t know if it is settled. Tweets from Shane Wright with Freedom Works says no.

INC on August 28, 2012 at 1:04 AM

I did read that the RP people were causing “issues” earlier today.

kim roy on August 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Yeah, they’re a headache, but it gave the party bosses an opportunity to defang the grassroots people, now and forevermore. Once it is in the rules, the RNC and the potential nominee control delegate selection which can be used for patronage and fundraising purposes.
Lousy deal.

a capella on August 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM

PS..My wife really likes them..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 12:53 AM

.
The closest thing to real-life “Sirens” from Greek mythology, but not as dangerous.
.
I remember fiddle-player Máiréad Nesbitt from her days with the Michael Flately dance productions. She was good then, but now she gets to perform gymnastics (almost, anyway) while playing the fiddle, and never misses a beat. Never mind her natural physical beauty.
Absolutely spectacular and mesmerizing, the whole tour is.

listens2glenn on August 28, 2012 at 1:06 AM

canopfor on August 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM

I haven’t read that one yet, but just off the top of my head…

Would I be wrong that this was a preemptive change by the RNC?

Where is Dire and his the GOPe will betray you? I think he’s on to something:-)

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 1:07 AM

She’s dating Brandon Darby, I believe.

kim roy on August 28, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Yep.

‏@brandondarby

I agree with God that a man should be the head of the household :)

@KatiePavlich

. @brandondarby excuse me?!

@brandondarby

Ummm… Nothing honey. I did all the chores around the house from the list you gave me :) @KatiePavlich

Flora Duh on August 28, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Dirt McGirt on August 28, 2012 at 12:24 AM

“cough” Firefox “cough”

OldEnglish on August 28, 2012 at 1:08 AM

I did not sir. There is a good “gohawgs” and then a poseur.
Missed you on rape Saturday night HA. :)

arnold ziffel on August 28, 2012 at 12:58 AM

You won’t have any trouble distinguishing him from our friend GoHawgs. I think it was probably a good thing I wasn’t on that QOTD thead. Still there is a score to settle having read it. I expect that there might be rough seas. The moderaters will have to be Captain of that. ; ) Or not. Either way it’s coming.

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM

OldEnglish on August 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I hear you..Glad to see you looking foward to the elections..We are fired up ourselves!..:)

PS..Hope you get to see the movie!..:)

Dire Straits on August 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM

As Ron Paul likes to say, you can’t break individual liberty up into pieces and defend this piece, but not that piece. Our rights must be defended in totality, or not at all. The moment the people allow government to erode even 1 of our individual rights, is the moment you justify their erosion of all our liberties.

If other conservatives want to think they’re being conservative by supporting people like Romney, fine. Just don’t expect us to go along with you. We can do better.

fatlibertarianinokc on August 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM

A Apolitical Blues

novaculus on August 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM

He MUST sing ‘Daisy’! :)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Yes, and beg to sing it. ; )

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Its Been A Long, Long Time

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Those rules determine winners and losers. Have you ever played cards with someone who wanted to change the rules as you went along?

INC on August 28, 2012 at 12:59 AM

From what i understand, some delegates do not want to vote for the guy they were sent there to vote for and that’s why all this stuff got stirred up.

Am I misunderstanding? Too simplistic?

Vince on August 28, 2012 at 1:13 AM

novaculus on August 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Good evening, Nova! That tune is perfect! :)

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

novaculus on August 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Evening novaculus, two ships passing, I’m on my way out. You on your way in. Everything good with you I trust?

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM

LOL! I agree!

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Alright Allah, I think you have wrung the Ron Paul chamois dry.

Logboy on August 28, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Where is Dire and his the GOPe will betray you? I think he’s on to something:-)

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Ha ha.

https://twitter.com/shanewright22 with Freedom Works.

These are from the last few hours. I reversed the tweets so that they’re in chronological order. Remember not all on the Rules Committee voted for the new rules.

The last tweet is from about 1/2 an hour ago.

This compromise could be moot because if the amendment to rule 12 isn’t pulled they can just redo it later

I have 2 sources within the #RNC Rules Committee, there are still concerns with the compromise, waiting to heat about rule 12

I am hearing mixed reviews about this compromise, Drama over amendment to #RNC rule 12, I’ll bring you updates as I get them

Per my source, Delegations are meeting as we speak to determine an official position on the proposed compromise

If we see a minority report go to the floor for a vote tomorrow rest assured that all hell will break loose

So for those of you still lingering, I have heard word that the minority report is intact, to the floor we go

INC on August 28, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Bmore on August 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

I took a walk in a mossy forest. It was delightful.

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2012 at 1:15 AM

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Eagle Forum has a link to a pdf of all the Rules delegates from each state. This post is old, so the states may have changed.

http://www.capwiz.com/eagleforum/issues/alert/?alertid=61768501

INC on August 28, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Thanks. I have all of the States & Phone #’s.

I don’t think it’s going to be settled anytime soon. They did this on purpose, nothing accidental.

bluefox on August 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM

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