All tied in O-I-HO?

posted at 3:31 pm on August 26, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Sorry to pull out the O-I-H-O pic for the front page twice in one day, but … hey, does anyone really get tired of it?  It’s in a good cause, however, as a new poll from the Columbus Dispatch shows everything tied in Oiho Ohio with just over two months to go.  And when I say “everything tied,” brother, I mean everything:

The closest Dispatch Poll in modern history shows the races for president and U.S. Senate in a dead heat in battleground Ohio.

For the record, Republican Mitt Romney holds a “lead” of 0.22 percentage point over President Barack Obama. That’s a mere 2 votes out of more than 1,730 cast for president in the mail poll.

By comparison, Sen. Sherrod Brown has a landslide going over GOP state Treasurer Josh Mandel with a margin of 0.87 point. That’s a whopping 15-ballot bulge.

The poll’s margin of error is plus or minus 2.1 percentage points, so the takeaway is that the presidential matchup is tied at 45 percent and the Senate struggle at 44 percent among likely voters.

A couple of notes on this poll.  One, there doesn’t appear to be any links to the raw data, so it’s impossible to look at the sample.  Two, the Dispatch doesn’t give much information on the internals, either; they mostly give some quotes from respondents and look at down-ticket races.  The topline results aren’t an outlier, though; the current RCP average for Ohio in the presidential race is Obama +2.0, 47.2/45.2.  For the Senate race, the difference is more substantial, as the RCP average has Brown up 4.5 over Mandel, although that mostly comes from a PPP poll that put Brown up ten points earlier in the month.

In both cases, though, the news is better for the challengers than the incumbents.  Both have had a full term to build support in Ohio (Obama four years, Brown six) in a state both won in their previous election.  Getting only 45% and 44% of the likely-voter respondents shows real weakness in their positions, and an opportunity for challengers to make a case for change.  This is corroborated by one of the few internals shared by the Dispatch that shows a majority (55%) who say that Obama performed worse than they expected in 2008 — including one in 7 Obama voters.  Overall, 62% believe the country is on the wrong track, a very bad number for high-level incumbents.

This isn’t a result that should have Team Romney high-fiving.  They will need to see Romney’s numbers start rising soon in Ohio in order to be sure that they are capitalizing on voter dissatisfaction with Obama.  Team Obama, however, should be very worried — and so should Sherrod Brown.


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Wow, we’re splitting points now, or, should I spell as pionts?

ted c on August 26, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Bishop?

Red Cloud on August 26, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Ohio’s Obama enthusiasm is low. Romney will win the state when he starts running ads on the UAW games with Delphi, and the GM use of Federal Tax money to engage in new operations in Russia. It’ll take work but it is ours.

harlekwin15 on August 26, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Forward!

anchorman on August 26, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Sorry to pull out the O-I-H-O pic for the front page twice in one day, but … hey, does anyone really get tired of it?

Nope… I relish the feeling of intellectual superiority.

Hog Wild on August 26, 2012 at 3:36 PM

OIHO remaining close is good enough at this point, before the coming earnest Romney/Ryan onslaught.

bayview on August 26, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Dem hopes dead in O-hio!

PatMac on August 26, 2012 at 3:38 PM

love the headline, Ed. The singular, vertical and self-referential pronoun coulda been used, should’ve been used, and wasn’t……a little taste of comedy gold.

ted c on August 26, 2012 at 3:40 PM

What I take out of this: the Senate is going to be decided by the Presidential race. Ohio and Virginia have painfully close Senate races going on. If the GOP takes either, they almost certainly have the Senate. If they take none, I think its because Obama won both states and his weak coattails just gets his guys across the finish line.

LukeinNE on August 26, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Obama has something Brown on his coattails…

Archivarix on August 26, 2012 at 3:42 PM

He thought they were spelling Oahu.

Philly on August 26, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Thinking of Neil Young’s timeless classic, “4 libs can’t spell Ohio”, right now.

stldave on August 26, 2012 at 3:43 PM

This election will be an earthquake…. Just like the one I just felt in San Diego.

oceansidecon on August 26, 2012 at 3:43 PM

He thought they were spelling Oahu.

Philly on August 26, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Heh.

Bitter Clinger on August 26, 2012 at 3:46 PM

It’s on here in Ohio!!!

Bitter Clinger on August 26, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Dem hopes dead in O-hio!

PatMac on August 26, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Darn, you beat me to it!

stldave on August 26, 2012 at 3:47 PM

I am in OH and it just doesn’t feel that close. The energy for Obama last time was palpable and I am in a strong R district. John Kasich isn’t bipartisanly loved but there is a lot more silence in the verbal angst dept from the libs due to the fact they have to grudgingly admit OH is back in the black and on track. Ryan being a Miami OH grad is endearing to many people. We are proud of our OH institutions. I think the real numbers are Romney by 5. Can’t say that Mandel is up that much. Brown is such a dirty campaigner that it is hard to get traction on him.

1nolibgal on August 26, 2012 at 3:48 PM

T-U-R-N-O-U-T.

Say it, over and over and over again.

PappyD61 on August 26, 2012 at 3:48 PM

OIHO is going red.

Grid your lions!

22044 on August 26, 2012 at 3:49 PM

All tied in O-I-HO?

I bet you’ve been waiting to use that since he did it.

Heh.

BallisticBob on August 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Got heartache over senate prospects in MO? Contribute to Mandel instead!

Lifelong OH resident…sent Mandel a Franklin yesterday.

knob on August 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Neil Young singin:

Four duds in OIHO.

bayview on August 26, 2012 at 3:51 PM

What’s high in the middle and round on both ends?

msupertas on August 26, 2012 at 3:51 PM

He thought they were spelling Oahu.

Philly on August 26, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Yep, and they are so dumb they also forgot to include the glottal stop.

It should have read “O’-I-H-O”

Del Dolemonte on August 26, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Who is this Josh Mandel you speak of?

PappyD61 on August 26, 2012 at 3:51 PM

This isn’t a result that should have Team Romney high-fiving. They will need to see Romney’s numbers start rising soon in Ohio in order to be sure that they are capitalizing on voter dissatisfaction with Obama.

Or, as Hugh Hewitt says, “If it’s not close, they can’t cheat.”

Wethal on August 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM

You know of course that Arabic is read from right to left, so OIHO would be exactly the way a Muslim like Obama would spell it.

Just sayin……. :)

TKindred on August 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM

What I take out of this: the Senate is going to be decided by the Presidential race. Ohio and Virginia have painfully close Senate races going on. If the GOP takes either, they almost certainly have the Senate. If they take none, I think its because Obama won both states and his weak coattails just gets his guys across the finish line.

LukeinNE on August 26, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Can make an argument the other way. Investing in those senate races boosts our chances upticket. They’re the ones that will be on the ground and making the case daily.

stldave on August 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM

TKindred on August 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Nice.

BallisticBob on August 26, 2012 at 3:53 PM

IIRC, “Oiho” now has voter ID, too.

Wethal on August 26, 2012 at 3:53 PM

But Bob Beckel and Joe Trippi said Oiho is a lost cause for Romeny/Ryan.

SouthernGent on August 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM

What’s hi in the middle and round at both ends?

:P

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on August 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM

He thought they were spelling Oahu.

Philly on August 26, 2012 at 3:42 PM

…you’re all wrong!…JugEars has been on HIS plane so much…he thought they were spelling Asia!

KOOLAID2 on August 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Heh

you’re right, that pic will never get old Ed….

Go Ohio!

cmsinaz on August 26, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Who is this Josh Mandel you speak of?

PappyD61 on August 26, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Ohio state treasurer. Marine veteran of Iraq. Good solid conservative. He just has to work to get his name ID higher than Socialist Brown.

Bitter Clinger on August 26, 2012 at 3:56 PM

THe biggest and most important sentence in that OHIO DISPATCH POLL is THIS:

And nearly half the undecided voters said they voted for Obama in 2008.

Listen, if those Obama voters are now “undecideds” that’s not good for Obama.

mountainaires on August 26, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Nevermind.

Me likey.

He’s been called part of the Palinization of the republican Party.

And he’s only 34. He could have us asking Marco who?

Josh Mandel is the 48th Treasurer of the State of Ohio, having been elected as the top vote-getter of all statewide executive candidates, winning 80 of Ohio’s 88 counties. Treasurer Mandel is a Marine Corps veteran who served two tours in Iraq and served as State Representative from the 17th Ohio House District. He was first elected State Representative in 2006, knocking on 19,679 doors and wearing out three pairs of shoes. In 2008 he was re-elected to a second term, representing a district with a 2:1 Democrat to Republican voter ratio. Treasurer Mandel has a record of advancing the free enterprise system, advocating for limited government, and standing up to bureaucrats who treat businesses as if they’re “guilty until proven innocent”.

As Treasurer of Ohio, Josh has earned the highest possible rating from Standard & Poor’s for the $4 billion government investment fund he manages, and the highest possible rating from Fitch for the state’s short-term General Obligation bonds. Applying the principles of fiscal conservatism and common sense decision-making, his liquidity portfolio is up $2.3 billion from the day he took office, and he has navigated the European sovereign debt crisis with a yield on behalf of the taxpayers. These accomplishments came in the wake of the United States credit rating being downgraded for the first time in American history, and at least 14 government funds throughout the country being downgraded.

Sounds good, and the Huffington Post is whining about his taking so much money from out of state. Good sign.

PappyD61 on August 26, 2012 at 3:57 PM

The Cardinals are ahead of the Erds in the eigth…

86 on August 26, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I am in the Columbus area….Ohio is ripe for the taking… Romney, Mandel, et al. must pound the message home….they must be RELENTLESS on offense. Obummer cannot take criticism and doesn’t respond well when really challenged. As another commenter said, turnout is crucial. Make sure that you, your family, and 1000 of your closest friends who hold the same view get to the polls on the “Correct Date”, Mooshelle’s comments notwithstanding.

MJScanlonOH on August 26, 2012 at 3:57 PM

IIRC, “Oiho” now has voter ID, too.

Wethal on August 26, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Yes, we do. We’ve had it for several years now.

Bitter Clinger on August 26, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Sounds good, and the Huffington Post is whining about his taking so much money from out of state. Good sign.

PappyD61 on August 26, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Oh yeah. Mandel is 180 degrees opposite Socialist Brown.

Bitter Clinger on August 26, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Sadly, the poll is junk. It’s a non-scientific mail poll based on whoever sends back their form.

Stick to phone polls for more accurate results. Those are still looking very promising for Romney and Mandel.

AngusMc on August 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Cue The Pretenders

“O went back to Ohio/
and his pretty lead was gone.”

JimLennon on August 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Ohio has coal counties, too, and the UMW won’t even endorse the Dem for president this year.

Wethal on August 26, 2012 at 4:07 PM

If you multiply the margin of error by Pie Squared divided by the circumference of the moon Tangent to the Sun the Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan’s lead is football fields outside the margin of error.

Of Course it won’t matter much since the election results qill be tossed out by an Obama Executive Order.

Varchild on August 26, 2012 at 4:07 PM

My read of the polls so far.

Obama has about 85% of Democrats

Romney has 90% of Republicans

Romney leads among Independents, by as little at 3% points to as many as 10%, depending on the pollster.

This means that if the election were held, RIGHT NOW, Romney would probably stand slightly better than even chances at winning. The only reason it looks like it may be Obama with slightly better than even chances, are due to a combination of statistical noise and some outright bad polling. We still have one or two pollsters out there whose unrealistic assumptions about democratic turnout would mean that Republicans would have to win independents by huge margins just to tie.

And as an example of statistical noise, Rassmussen has Obama up +2 today, but if Rassmussen did seven day polling like Gallop they would have Romney and Obama tied as well.

Of course this is ALL assuming that Democrats have a 3-4% national advantage in terms of turnout. Gallop stated earlier this month that if the enthusiasm disparity continued Republicans may actually end up with a higher turnout than democrats for once.

If that ended up being the case, then it WOULD be a landslide for Romney. Its hard enough to lose if you carry your own party and independents by more than 5 points. If your own party beats out the other guys in terms of turnout, then it won’t be anywhere close.

Again, that last bit is a bit iffy. We just really don’t know how good democratic turnout is going to be, so we should probably assume about historic turnout levels, for now.

WolvenOne on August 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Cue The Pretenders

“O went back to Ohio/
and his pretty lead was gone.”

JimLennon on August 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Speaking of The Pretenders, Biden’s ode to Virginia: Back on the Chain Gang.

Bitter Clinger on August 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM

He thought they were spelling Oahu.

Philly on August 26, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Or maybe it was “Allahu”.

Philly on August 26, 2012 at 4:15 PM

With apologies to CSN&Y, the liberal bastards:

Dead people and Acorn voting
They’re finally on their own.
This Autumn I feel the gloating
Dem hopes dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Tea Party’s cutting us down,
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew TOTUS
And found it dead on the ground
How can you run when you know.

PatMac on August 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Speaking of The Pretenders, Biden’s ode to Virginia: Back on the Chain Gang.

Bitter Clinger on August 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Ha! Nicely done.

For pandering so often, these guys pander so poorly. If voters fall for it, I think that’s about it. We are officially screwed.

stldave on August 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Another POLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

gerrym51 on August 26, 2012 at 4:18 PM

The fact that this petty,corrupt, left wing,economic moron polls above 10% in any poll frankly means that the Republic is finished.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on August 26, 2012 at 4:18 PM

That’s a mere 2 votes out of more than 1,730 cast for president in the mail poll.

MackDaddy wants a recount.

davidk on August 26, 2012 at 4:19 PM

I am in the Columbus area….Ohio is ripe for the taking… Romney, Mandel, et al. must pound the message home….they must be RELENTLESS on offense. Obummer cannot take criticism and doesn’t respond well when really challenged. As another commenter said, turnout is crucial. Make sure that you, your family, and 1000 of your closest friends who hold the same view get to the polls on the “Correct Date”, Mooshelle’s comments notwithstanding.

my 2 daughters and sons in law live in colubus area.

they are liberal democrats.

Oh the shame! I don’t know what i did wrong.

gerrym51 on August 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM

…I wonder if the first guy is getting all kinds of advice about underarm deodorant?

KOOLAID2 on August 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Love that headline but Ed is chomping at the bit to post an election night update stating that “Obama loses O-I-H-O!!”

weapons grade schadenfrauede.

ted c on August 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM

T-U-R-N-O-U-T.

Say it, over and over and over again.

PappyD61 on August 26, 2012 at 3:48 PM

you can say it over and over again all you want, Paps, but Imma gonna spell it T-U-R-N-U-O-T.

ted c on August 26, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Here’s what the media will never tell you. Kasich won the governor’s race in 2010 in large part because the democrat turnout collapsed in the metropolitan counties. This was despite heavy campaigning by Obama himself. It will be no different in 2012. Romney and Mandel will both win by at least 5 points here in Ohio.

darkegop on August 26, 2012 at 4:28 PM

my 2 daughters and sons in law live in colubus area.

they are liberal democrats.

Oh the shame! I don’t know what i did wrong.

gerrym51 on August 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Tell them about all the fantastic job opportunities in Tennessee. Do it before November. Doesn’t have to be Tennessee, whatever deep red state might appeal to them really.

stldave on August 26, 2012 at 4:30 PM

IIRC, “Oiho” now has voter ID, too.

Wethal on August 26, 2012 at 3:53 PM

So, massive population declines in Cuyahoga and Mahoning Counties?

Barnestormer on August 26, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Plus or minus three percent.

There’s even less nothing to see here than usual.

logis on August 26, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Four braindead in Ohio! (to quote hawkdriver).

profitsbeard on August 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM

OT : State of emergency declared in LA;  
NOLA mayor says if evacuations are ordered, NO shelters of last resort in city.  
Residents must prepare for Isaac.

(sources = several of my stormwatchers’ Tweets)

pambi on August 26, 2012 at 4:40 PM

my 2 daughters and sons in law live in colubus area.

they are liberal democrats.

Oh the shame! I don’t know what i did wrong.

gerrym51 on August 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM

You obviously didn’t teach them to think for themselves and their little minds were stolen in school.

Rio Linda Refugee on August 26, 2012 at 4:49 PM

gerrym51 on August 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Tell them the movie “2016″ is sympathetic to their hero, and a very good production ???
LOL … I’ve heard both of those comments about it, so not a lie !
:-)

pambi on August 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM

OIHO is one of those 57 states no one else has ever heard of.

scrubjay on August 26, 2012 at 4:55 PM

OPERATION SABOTAGE MITT is underway at the Bush Compound.

I see that Jeb is saying that HIGHER TAXES must be part of any fiscal solution.

Poor Jeb, bless his heart, he didn’t have the guts to run in 2008 and he’s trying to drive the debate and be relevant.

Hey Jeb (and all you other Bushes), I hear Retirement is a happy place, all of you……do us a favor…..STAY THERE.

overheard conversation between Jeb and Poppy Bush:

“WWWWWAAAAAAAAAA, but Daddy I was the smart one, you told me so, George wasn’t supposed to have a turn in the Oval Office. That was my chair Daddy…….wwwwwwaaaaaaaahhhhhh.”

“Now Jebbie, you’ll be okay, you’ve still got 2016.”

“Waaaaaaaahhhhhhh”

PappyD61 on August 26, 2012 at 4:56 PM

He thought they were spelling Oahu.

Philly on August 26, 2012 at 3:42 PM

…you’re all wrong!…JugEars has been on HIS plane so much…he thought they were spelling Asia!

KOOLAID2 on August 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM

According to O’bama Himself, O’ahu IS in Asia!

Del Dolemonte on August 26, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Dispatch Mail-In is about as accurate as a Magic-8 Ball

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/05/pollster-ratings-v311.html

The worst rated pollster…. Period

Top

Seltzer +/- .75
Survey USA +/- 1.02
Rasmussen +/- 1.30

Bottom

CBS/NYT +/- 2.64
Zogby (interactive) +/- 5.73
Dispatch (mail) +/- 8.00

Hence the 8ball comment

NextGen on August 26, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Sorry to pull out the O-I-H-O pic for the front page twice in one day, but … hey, does anyone really get tired of it?

Yeah, but in some alternate universe it comes in 4th for the OOTW?

Shenanigans!

Picture, voter ID for OOTW.

hawkdriver on August 26, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Bottom

CBS/NYT +/- 2.64
Zogby (interactive) +/- 5.73
Dispatch (mail) +/- 8.00

Hence the 8ball comment

NextGen on August 26, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Zogby still exists? Gee whiz.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Del Dolemonte on August 26, 2012 at 4:56 PM

…I know!… but they only talk about uncle Joe!

KOOLAID2 on August 26, 2012 at 5:10 PM

The missed issue 2 by 56….. Yes 56 points in mail in poll. They had issue 2 passing 59/33, it went down 36/64.

So instead of winning by 28, it went down by 28. Some even asked if thy had their numbers transposed…. They said nope..

NextGen on August 26, 2012 at 5:12 PM

IIRC, “Oiho” now has voter ID, too.

Wethal on August 26, 2012 at 3:53 PM

So, massive population declines in Cuyahoga and Mahoning Counties?

Barnestormer on August 26, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Pretty much. Everyone moved out of Cleveland and into the suburbs. Youngstown has fared worse. Elyria, Lorain and Toledo are utterly depressing.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Pretty much. Everyone moved out of Cleveland and into the suburbs. Youngstown has fared worse. Elyria, Lorain and Toledo are utterly depressing.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Toledo…. Is like Baby Detroit… not quite as bad, but same knot in your belly when you go through.

NextGen on August 26, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Toledo…. Is like Baby Detroit… not quite as bad, but same knot in your belly when you go through.

NextGen on August 26, 2012 at 5:17 PM

One of the few times I literally was scared to go through a town.

If you ever drive through Lorain or Elyria (I wouldn’t recommend it), make sure your car’s shocks are in top form. Their streets have more holes than a chunk of Swiss cheese.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Or, as Hugh Hewitt says, “If it’s not close, they can’t cheat.”

Wethal on August 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM

The Dims can, and will, cheat — no matter what.

We just have to make sure that Romney’s margin of victory is so large that all the illegal Dim votes still can’t put Barry on top.

AZCoyote on August 26, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Why do I think that Ohio or any currently “close” swing state is not close at all. I don’t see anything trending Obama’s way.

MrX on August 26, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Or, as Hugh Hewitt says, “If it’s not close, they can’t cheat.”

Wethal on August 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM

And remember, Hugh is from Warren, Ohio. He speaks from experience.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Why do I think that Ohio or any currently “close” swing state is not close at all. I don’t see anything trending Obama’s way.

MrX on August 26, 2012 at 5:29 PM

I was at the Lorain County Fair yesterday.

If this is any indication, there was plenty of people visiting the Lorain County GOP tent and talking with the local state senator. The Lorain County Dem tent was virtually empty.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 5:36 PM

What they are displaying is not OIHO, it is OIHI.

Democrats can’t spell, Republicans can’t read, and people wonder why there is an affirmative action president in the White House.

*eye roll*
:)

YiZhangZhe on August 26, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Obamamentum!!!11!!!11

jnelchef on August 26, 2012 at 5:37 PM

A Romney win in any city, county or state of less than 2% is a guarantee that the Dems will cheat and take it as a win as Republicnas shrug their shoulders and pretend they are being the bigger person….that’s what they always do. Since when does being part of the GOP mean you can’t fight and you always have to accept whatever libs says as I inevitable…like no way to get rid of obamacare, no way to get rid of or reform entitlements, no way to get rid of federal government departments….when…and I mean when has a liberal ever stopped or ever backed down for so called impossible causes….they ALWAYS get what THEY want…gay marriage, obamacare, reverse racism as official government policy, etc etc etc….all so call impossible things!!!!!

Caseoftheblues on August 26, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Another POLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

gerrym51 on August 26, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Yep, from LIEKLY voters.

bbordwell on August 26, 2012 at 6:00 PM

o/t

Democrat Pol: “Crime in the N*grohood” … The Sound That You Here Is Crickets Chirping

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/08/democrat-pol-crime-in-ngrohood-wheres.html

M2RB: Rolling Stones

Resist We Much on August 26, 2012 at 6:05 PM

HEAR, sorry.

Resist We Much on August 26, 2012 at 6:06 PM

If you are in Ohio, or if you know people in Ohio, please, please, please…make sure you and your friends and family are registered. Drive them to vote, drive them to get registered, whatever. The future of America could be in your hands!

cptacek on August 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Hey hey ho ho, Sherrie Brown has got to go!
Next time, send a Marine. Ohio needs Josh Mandel.

indyvet on August 26, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Speaking of The Pretenders, Biden’s ode to Virginia: Back on the Chain Gang.

Bitter Clinger on August 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM

I was thinking more of Fleetwood Mac. If Bill Clinton can have Don’t Stop, Biden can have The Chain.

But back to Oiho. How are the two candidates doing in Itannicnic, Norka, Odelot, and the capitol city of Submuloc?

Bigfoot on August 26, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Both [Obama and Brown] have had a full term to build support in Ohio (Obama four years, Brown six) in a state both won in their previous election.

Brown’s a lifelong pol. He already held a statewide office; that of Ohio Attorney General in the late 80s (only losing to Bob Taft back in 1990). And he was in a Dem-safe U.S. House district (the now-eliminated Ohio #13, based in Lorain) for twelve years.

Putting this poll (and the equally-flawed PPP poll) aside, he should be crushing Mandel by double-digits. If not due to incumbency, a solid voting bloc in union workers and name recognition for decades. Brown, his union ally PAC and the DNC have been outspending Mandel immensely (not to say Mandel’s PAC allies have been slouching).

And yet… Mandel is holding his own.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 6:38 PM

(The Dispatch mail-in poll) missed issue 2 by 56….. Yes 56 points in mail in poll. They had issue 2 passing 59/33, it went down 36/64.

So instead of winning by 28, it went down by 28. Some even asked if thy had their numbers transposed…. They said nope..

NextGen on August 26, 2012 at 5:12 PM

To be fair, Issue 3 (the symbolic vote “against” Obamacare) WAS a transposed result from Issue 2. It even carried Cuyahoga and Lorain Counties by a two-to-one margin.

Issue 2 failed mainly due to the Tet Offensive by Ohio’s public union employees, none of which knew any better (including alleged ‘conservative’ talk host turned liberal Democrat Bill “Great American” Cunningham). I will shed no tears over any of them losing their jobs due to municipal budget troubles.

Not that Kasich was a good salesman.

Truthfully, I don’t put any stock of Issue 2′s failure into what will happen this November. It was a fluke win by a public sector kabal which has, more often than not, seen defeat after defeat at the ballot box. Even the Ohio GOP wised up and did legal maneuvers to prevent their House redistricting plan and voter ID laws from being forced into referendums by the same people.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 6:42 PM

The bad thing is they didn’t just transpose the letters(O-I-H-O), they totally misspelled it (OIHI). O-I-HI! lol

pugsly on August 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM

my 2 daughters and sons in law live in colubus area.

they are liberal democrats.

Oh the shame! I don’t know what i did wrong.

gerrym51 on August 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Tell them you just went to see the movie “2016: Obama’s America” and that is really has you thinking about Obama… maybe they will get curious and go see it too.

It opened in Columbus on Friday; at the showing that I was at everyone clapped like crazy at the end!

E-R

electric-rascal on August 26, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Truthfully, I don’t put any stock of Issue 2′s failure into what will happen this November. It was a fluke win by a public sector kabal which has, more often than not, seen defeat after defeat at the ballot box. Even the Ohio GOP wised up and did legal maneuvers to prevent their House redistricting plan and voter ID laws from being forced into referendums by the same people.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 6:42 PM

I don’t think one has anything to do with the other. My comment was really about the Dispatch and these mail in polls, Mail in polls used to be very accurate, now not so much…. I beleive they are good for possibly capturing intensity but that’s about all.

NextGen on August 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Incumbents polling under 50% have to be conscious that the late deciders tend to break for the challenger 2-1. To win, a incumbent almost have to be no further below 50% than 1/3 the undecideds.

Senate incumbents have a high reelection rate, but the majority of their infrequent defeats occur in their first reelection attempt. So if Scott Brown beats Fauxcohantas in MA, he’s likely be Senator a long time, and Sherrod Brown will never be more vulnerable. We need to get that rat now.

Ohio, even when on a streak of national elections going Republican, has managed to send some real losers to the Senate. Remember Howard Metzenbaum?

Adjoran on August 26, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Old Obama had a farm, E-O-I-H-O….

I think I’d give Dan Quayle better odds to correctly spell Owyhee, as in Owyhee County, Idaho, than the Dear Leader. An interesting spelling variant of Hawaii to say the least!

Sir Rants-A-Lot on August 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM

If it’s a tie, give it to the Dems.

Why? A-C-O-R-N!

Dead-heat means “Democrats are winning”.

LOLOL!

TheAlamos on August 27, 2012 at 12:04 AM

And remember, Hugh is from Warren, Ohio. He speaks from experience.

Myron Falwell on August 26, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Hguh is from Oiho? Didn’t know that…

Gingotts on August 27, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Once again, I’m predicting 54 – 46 in the popular vote and a landslide that will make us look back to Nixon for comparison.

Obama is poison for America, and no amount of media cheerleading will prevent the American patriots from voting for the country’s well-being.

Wino on August 27, 2012 at 1:32 AM

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