Why in the world are you doing that????

Mary in LA on August 24, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Simple, slavery is an evil. Ryan plans to use the slave labor of future generations of Americans to pay for the evil Social Security and Medicare programs dreamed up by progressives, who knew that making Americans reliant on government largess was the way to make progressive policy immune to repeal. As you all say, if we do not get rid of Obamacare before it goes into effect, there is no way to get rid of it after… Well, I for one say, great.

The generation retiring today is the generation that made these screw ups, and I say they should be the ones to pay for it, with the failure of their nation. I am done supporting the idea that we can fix the nation outside of crisis. It needs the crisis and the sacrifice that ends up being the larger part of that crisis to finally grow the hell up!

Either fix, or pay for it yourselves.

If Romney wins and fails to deliver a government that has increased its Conservative nature and is headed even more conservative, I think you can kiss a large chunk of the Republican supporters support goodbye, either for good (think new party) or at least for a generation, along with their children approaching the party with a significant distrust.

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astonerii on August 24, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Now there I agree with you.

I will tell you this, when those in my office talk politics, they have a tremendously negative view of Romney and a generally favorable veiw of Ryan, which of course I reverse to a dislike of Ryan as quickly as possible.

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astonerii on August 24, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Why in the world are you doing that????

General question:

Has anyone heard anybody else speaking in support of Obama (not including his papparazzi)?

In the workplace, at home, overheard in restaurants, on the street, etc….?

I don’t.

So who the hell is the ~50% who show up in the polls?

Its another case of reality not matching the reports.

BobMbx on August 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM

5 cars in my apartment complex have recently updated their Obama/Biden bumper stickers, as well as their coexist and other liberal progressive paraphanalia.

I will tell you this, when those in my office talk politics, they have a tremendously negative view of Romney and a generally favorable veiw of Ryan, which of course I reverse to a dislike of Ryan as quickly as possible.

Most say they will still vote Republican, but they directly say it with the caveate of holding their noses, or some other way to indicate it is not their prefered action.

If Romney wins and fails to deliver a government that has increased its Conservative nature and is headed even more conservative, I think you can kiss a large chunk of the Republican supporters support goodbye, either for good (think new party) or at least for a generation, along with their children approaching the party with a significant distrust.

You all like to say that this is an important election. It is, but not for the reason you imagine its import.

Has anyone heard anybody else speaking in support of Obama (not including his papparazzi)?

In the workplace, at home, overheard in restaurants, on the street, etc….?

I don’t.

So who the hell is the ~50% who show up in the polls?

Its another case of reality not matching the reports.

renalin on August 23, 2012 at 9:29 PM

An “attack dog” is one that will attack another person or their position purely as an effort to marginalize them regardless of the merits of their position.

Ryan is after the truth and what works, not demagoguery. So you’re right, he’s not an attack dog.

Then he would negotiate those things with the House. They would put in what republicans like, and Harry Reid would put the bill into the Senate for a vote. That would be bipartisanship.

But he won’t open his mouth and say what he would do because he doesn’t care about Pentagon cuts. He wants it to happen and will blame republicans, because he is a person with a mean streak he will laugh and enjoy the sequestration. He really does not care who in the military loses their job or is laid off from the related industries.

We spend an exorbitant amount of money on our military and we should be looking for ways to cut down on costs much like should have been done with health care and wasn’t by our POS POTUS.

That is part of the con. They have no intention of cutting spending for real, they’ve only talked about cutting spending on Democrat priorities, but they aren’t going to use the savings to reduce the deficit, they are going to spend the money on Republican priorities instead. That’s what the Paul Ryan plan does. Romney/Ryan are still generational thieves just like the Democrats are, they just have different cronies. You have been duped by Fox News and other partisan media outlets, Paul Ryan’s budget in reality does not cut a penny of real spending, it only reduces the rate that spending increases each year, a little. In other words it’s hocus-pokus, a ruse, a con. Both parties and a complacent/complicit media are in on it because they like big-gov too and they get paid millions by both parties for political advertisements.

FloatingRock on August 23, 2012 at 6:08 PM

This may be too pithy, but I’m really glad I’m not you.

FloatingRock on August 23, 2012 at 5:49 PM

renalin on August 23, 2012 at 9:29 PM

You do realize that Gary is not gonna call after your one-night stand, right?

But cheer up, boys! Maybe ONE of you can still dance cheek to cheek with him at the Blue Oyster after the convention….

…when he loses

…AGAIN.

Wow the Mike Church/Ronulans have invaded!

Defenestratus on August 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

They’re just warming for the floor battle in Tampa. /sarc

Paul Ryan is just another hypocritical snake-oil peddler fighting a fraudulent partisan battle while the powers that be scheme in secret about what they’re going to shove down America’s throat after the election during the lame duck, regardless of which of the “two parties” wins the election.

FloatingRock on August 23, 2012 at 5:42 PM

+1000

I doubt it if “Mom jeans” has the stones to pull his shirt off next to Ryan.

Tenwheeler on August 23, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Oh, I would bet that he would. While giving Ryan a funny look and a wink.

can’t you guys just see paul ryan and obama sitting next to each other in a gym, comparing pecs, after a px90 workout.

renalin on August 23, 2012 at 9:29 PM

I doubt it if “Mom jeans” has the stones to pull his shirt off next to Ryan.

Those programs don’t just consume the majority of the budget, they consume every last cent of tax revenue. All of it.

Every legitimate (and illegitimate) function of government is paid for with borrowed funds, because welfare and entitlement (BIRM) transfer payments consume all of our tax revenue.

raised as a pup on the mother’s milk of the elitists. never voted against his party. always went with the flow.

the only fighting ryan does is when he’s up against a defenseless animal. then he’s all tiger.

you guys saw him secretly trying to schmooze with clinton behind the scenes.

can’t you guys just see paul ryan and obama sitting next to each other in a gym, comparing pecs, after a px90 workout.

Unless Gary Johnson surges before it’s too late nothing is going to be cut. Both parties are promising to increase the debt year after year for decades to some. Gary Johnson is the only one who has indicated he will cut spending and balance the budget.

FloatingRock on August 23, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Repeat after me, fellow HotGas members: “There is no candidate but Saint Johnson of the Wacky Tobaccy, and FloatingRock is his prophet.”

DNC: We’re headlining women for free abortion on demand, free contraceptives on demand, free benefits on demand, free citizenship on demand and we’ll tax those 1% who make more than $250k a year to do it! Who cares if that’s our Mom’s & Dad’s (in whose basement we’re living rent-free) they deserve it!
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AACV: We’d like to headline and address the big issues our Nation is facing, namely jobs, getting the economy robust once again, reforming our entitlement programs so that for the most in need, they’ll be there for the foreseeable future; reforming our tax code so that every American citizen has a reason to vote, because they pay federal tax, but more importantly, that every American citizen realize (w/o even examining how the “public” education system has dumbed-downed generations) it not only is their privilege to vote, it is their duty as citizens of this Free Nation.

That said, which do you think is more important to the survival of the republic…strong and evolving military or evolving welfare benefits?
Just curious.

Mimzey on August 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Not going bankrupt. So we can still afford to have a military at all.

Put up or shut up. hell, even his erroneously vaunted Ryan Road Map does not put up, it plans to balance the budget 2 full generations into the future, LONG AFTER him and those who might vote it into existence are out of power, and likely even they will then spend the rest of their time in congress working to spend more and destroy its prospects for fruition by the end of 4 years.