Huckabee: Second look at Todd Akin

posted at 4:41 pm on August 23, 2012 by Allahpundit

Akin’s first defensive move after people tried to get him to quit was to frame this as a “conservatives vs. liberal elite media” fight. Since his main “liberal media” tormentor was Sean Hannity, that didn’t work. So then he tried to make it a “grassroots conservatives vs. party bosses” thing. That didn’t work either once the Tea Party Express called on him to quit. Now here comes the “social conservatives vs. RINO moderates” pitch. From the man who endorsed David Dewhurst in Texas…

The Party’s leaders have for reasons that aren’t rational, left him behind on the political battlefield, wounded and bleeding, a casualty of his self-inflicted, but not intentional wound. In a Party that supposedly stands for life, it was tragic to see the carefully orchestrated and systematic attack on a fellow Republican. Not for a moral failure or corruption or a criminal act, but for a misstatement which he contritely and utterly repudiated. I was shocked by GOP leaders and elected officials who rushed so quickly to end the political life of a candidate over a mistaken comment in an interview. This was a serious mistake, but it was blown out of proportion not by the left, but by Akin’s own Republican Party. Is this what the party really thinks of principled pro-life advocates? Do we forgive and forget the verbal gaffes of Republicans who are “conveniently pro-life” for political advantage, but crucify one who truly believes that every life is sacred?

Who ordered this “Code Red” on Akin? There were talking point memos sent from the National Republican Senatorial Committee suggesting language to urge Akin to drop out. Political consultants were ordered to stay away from Akin or lose future business with GOP committees. Operatives were recruited to set up a network of pastors to call Akin to urge him to get out. Money has changed hands to push him off the plank. It is disgraceful. From the spotlights of political offices and media perches, it may appear that the demand for Akin’s head is universal in the party. I assure you it is not. There is a vast, but mostly quiet army of people who have an innate sense of fairness and don’t like to see a fellow political pilgrim bullied. If Todd Akin loses the Senate seat, I will not blame Todd Akin. He made his mistake, but was man enough to admit it and apologize. I’m waiting for the apology from whoever the genius was on the high pedestals of our party who thought it wise to not only shoot our wounded, but run over him with tanks and trucks and then feed his body to the liberal wolves. It wasn’t just Todd Akin that was treated with contempt by the thinly veiled attack on Todd Akin. It was all the people who have faithfully knocked doors, made calls, and made sacrificial contributions to elect Republicans because we thought we were welcome in the party. Todd Akin owned his mistake. Who will step up and admit the effort being made to discredit Akin and apologize for the sleazy way it’s been handled?

There’s more at the link. The timing is no coincidence, I take it: Akin met with a group of social conservative leaders and activists in Tampa last night, presumably to plan some sort of coordinated pushback against the calls for him to get out. According to Tony Perkins, the goal was “to talk to him and encourage him in the stand he’s been taking.” Makes sense that Huckabee, who has huge name recognition and a megaphone at Fox News, would take the lead on it. But he’s not alone:

“Following the pounding of Todd Akin by the GOP kings and lieutenants in the last 36 hours, I’ve come to the conclusion that the real issue is the soul of America,” wrote David Lane, an evangelical activist who’s influential in the Republican Party, in an e-mail to fellow activists Thursday morning.

“The swift knee-jerk reaction to throw Akin, a strong conservative pro-life, pro-family born again Christian under the bus by some in the Republican Party is shining the light on their actual agenda,” Lane continued.

“We haven’t seen anything this vicious since some of the same operatives did this to (Sarah) Palin.”

Perkins also sent out a blast e-mail last night noting that the GOP has stood by moderates in the past and therefore “Singling out Todd suggests a double standard, designed to drive out social conservatives.” Why are heavy hitters like him and Huckabee ready to fight and die on Magic Uterus Hill when there’s overwhelming bipartisan disgust at Akin for what he said? Because, I think, of the phenomenon that Phil Klein identified in his piece at the Examiner this morning. This is the first time since the rise of the tea party that virtually the entire right, including the Tea Party Express, has united against a Republican candidate for saying something fringe-y enough to imperil his chances of winning. An exasperated Jim Geraghty points to Christine O’Donnell, Sharron Angle, and Carl Paladino and writes, “These candidates and their teams always insist that they know better. They always insist that they have some sort of secret understanding of the race, some sort of secret game plan or strategy that will completely change the circumstances. And they always, always, always lose.” (Not surprisingly, Sharron Angle’s campaign manager is fully supportive of Akin staying in.) Klein’s point is that a lot of conservatives have come to feel the same exasperation about winnable seats, especially in an election cycle that represents the last chance to repeal ObamaCare before the program starts.

What makes Huck et al. nervous about that, I think, is that if Akin drops out and his replacement wins the seat, Republicans may conclude that good things can happen for the party if it’s unforgiving of controversial pronouncements by socially conservative candidates. Akin’s not the only man in America with funny ideas about women’s alleged biological rape defenses, after all. Which beliefs are too controversial for a candidate to hold, and will the standard for that shift over time? None of this is meant as a defense of Akin, mind you — I think he should go pronto for his crankery, the upshot of which was to suggest that it’s not really rape if a woman gets pregnant — but this is why I think you’re seeing a circling of the wagons from social conservatives. It’s not so much about Akin as the fact that they’d rather lose this seat and keep the Overton window where it is for future GOP candidates than win by letting it shift, because no one knows exactly where it might shift to.

You’ll be pleased to know, incidentally, that Claire McCaskill thinks that Rasmussen poll showing her up 10 points is awfully fishy and that Akin has a much better chance of beating her than anyone thinks. I guess he’d better stay in the race then, huh? Exit question: Huck et al. keep noting that Akin has apologized repeatedly and therefore should be forgiven. Has he apologized for the actual nuts and bolts of what he said, though? When he talked to Huckabeethe other day, he made it sound like his mistake was simply using the word “legitimate” in the context of rape. (“I said one word in one sentence on one day, and everything changed.”) But his more substantive mistake was passing along quack science about the likelihood of pregnancy during violent sexual assault. Has he apologized for that too? I’m asking earnestly; I might have missed it.

Update: A few people on Twitter have wondered whether the RNC should rescind Huckabee’s invitation to speak at the convention for this. You think? You think Mitt Romney, whose abortion flip-flopping has already made him untrustworthy to social cons, is going to restart a war with Huck 10 weeks out from election day — when all Huck’s really doing is defending the GOP nominee for Senate in Missouri? C’mon.


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speppers69 on August 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Sounds like He has you right where He needs you. God Bless You.

SailorMark on August 23, 2012 at 9:09 PM

As I said above in the headlines, his web pages seem to dismiss the Rasmussen poll collapse as touting that “Claire can’t break 50 percent!”

Wonder what happens when she does.

Marcus on August 23, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Indeed first thing I thought when I saw this poll.

She only got 48%. Same as before this or very close to it.

That means this seat is still very winnable by him. But only him as long as he stays in which he will. Only if the Party Bosses reverse themselves and support him.

There really is only one path to victory Todd Akin.

Anything else is wishful thinking. If Todd only got 5% Clair would still win with her 48%. But he would most likely get far more than that in a three way write in base. Murkowski the sore loser won because Alaska had no Democrat that hardly registered in that election and it was close even after all of her lies, fraud and distortions. Not at all the case here.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:12 PM

It has been interesting, seeing what people are willing to turn a blind eye to in order to get Obama out of the White House, then discovering that a stupid comment about rape victims not getting pregnant is such a huge unbearable mistake that the GOP responds by deciding that it’s better to get Akin out and to let McCaskill have the Senate seat, even if it means that the GOP ends up losing the Senate by one. People in the GOP had the same reaction to O’Donnell beating out Mike Castle in the Delaware GOP primary — the GOP seems to have decided that it was better to give the seat to that Communist Coons than to stop badmouthing the GOP candidate after the primary was over.

And they don’t even have Palin and the Tea Party to blame for this particular dust-up. It must leave squishes feeling a little discombobulated.

To me it just looks like more evidence for something that’s become pretty obvious just from reading these threads lately: that the GOP, or a significant portion of the GOP, is beyond sick and tired of social conservatives and would dearly love to kick the socons out of the GOP, even if it means losing elections.

And this “I’ve had it with these motherf___in’ socons in this motherf___in’ party” attitude is coming out right before the Labor Day before a national election.

Aitch748 on August 23, 2012 at 7:20 PM

It’s not called “The Stupid Party” for nothing.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:12 PM

For me, it’s not what he said, it’s not his ignorance of things medical or female, it’s not any motives he may or may not have. For me, it’s that this guy is so politically unsaavy that, as the whole thing is crumbling under him, he too stupid to know he’s finished, right or wrong, and thinks he still has a snowball’s chance. I don’t know if that’s stupidity, ego, or immaturity, but I don’t want him representing my party.

SailorMark on August 23, 2012 at 9:07 PM

I agree that is the worst thing about Akin.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:12 PM

A single post from someone who’s been through the flames is worth a hundred pages of braying by ignorant uppity fundies.
God bless and keep you, sister in Christ. Know that even if your assaulters never face justice here, they’ll face a much worse judgement if they don’t beg for His mercy in this life.

MelonCollie on August 23, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Ya because no “uppity fundies” have ever experienced rape.//

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Show me the law that says it is OK to force him out.

No one is forcing him out.

Right there is no such law the law is on Akins side.

Because of that First Amendment.

Stephaniecutter on August 23, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Is that the same First Amendment that protects other peoples right to try to talk (or even shout) him into quitting.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Great endorsement Huckabee. Would like to see him dropped from the convention for such poor judgment.

Ragnar Danneskold on August 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM

People in the GOP had the same reaction to O’Donnell beating out Mike Castle in the Delaware GOP primary — the GOP seems to have decided that it was better to give the seat to that Communist Coons than to stop badmouthing the GOP candidate after the primary was over.

No, not really. People in the GOP were telling the ones who endorsed O’Donnell in the primary to get their butts to Delaware to work on her campaign. She was a horrible candidate. It’s was Joe Biden’s seat and we could have won it, like we did with Obama’s seat. That would have been a huge victory.

monalisa on August 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM

That means this seat is still very winnable by him. But only him as long as he stays in which he will. Only if the Party Bosses reverse themselves and support him.

There really is only one path to victory Todd Akin.

Anything else is wishful thinking. If Todd only got 5% Clair would still win with her 48%. But he would most likely get far more than that in a three way write in base. Murkowski the sore loser won because Alaska had no Democrat that hardly registered in that election and it was close even after all of her lies, fraud and distortions. Not at all the case here.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:12 PM

It’s. Not. Just. The. Party. Bosses. Do you consider Michelle Malkin a party boss? She thinks he should go.

changer1701 on August 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Indeed first thing I thought when I saw this poll.

She only got 48%. Same as before this or very close to it.

That means this seat is still very winnable by him

So what happens when she breaks 50 percent?

Marcus on August 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Update: A few people on Twitter have wondered whether the RNC should rescind Huckabee’s invitation to speak at the convention for this. You think?

Given that Mike Huckabee has joined an open revolt against Mitt Romney’s leadership over whether Todd Akin should withdraw from the US Mo Senate Race, the better question to ask is will Huckabee do the right thing and decline the invitation to speak at the convention and to attend the convention?

john.frank on August 23, 2012 at 9:21 PM

It’s. Not. Just. The. Party. Bosses. Do you consider Michelle Malkin a party boss? She thinks he should go.

changer1701 on August 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Saint Sarah too.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 9:22 PM

You are ascribing motives to a statement. He made a medically ignorant statement and should have bowed out- but you people are a bunch of PC Democrat drama queens. You frickin people are insane and dumb. See I can play the rhetoric games as well.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:27 PM

He said that the woman doesn’t get pregnant if the rape is legitimate. Which means that the rape wasn’t legitimate if the woman gets pregnant.

There are no “motives”. It’s just medieval thinking, like throwing a woman into a lake in order to find out if she’s a witch.

Gelsomina on August 23, 2012 at 9:23 PM

He was unelectable the second he uttered those words, no matter how apologetic he was afterward, and he hung this around the necks of every other Republican in the process. THAT is the problem, THAT is why he was asked to get out, and THAT is not the fault of party bosses.

changer1701 on August 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I am just stunned there there are some people who apparently think that its no big deal to tell 32,000 rape victims (this year alone) that they liked it, that they wanted it.
You don’t get to say something like that and still be a Senator.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Who made you two or anyone else Judge, Jury and Executioner?

You ever hear of Innocent until proven guilty.

You ever hear of the rule of law?

Guess you and the Party Bosses think they know better than the people of Missouri that wrote the laws that governed this election. Do you think these people were so stupid they never though that it was possible for a Politician to put his foot in his mouth?

You do not like the law. I get that.

What I do not get is why you think you can make up a new law up. What you think gives you that authority.

What I really do not get is what group of legislators got together and decided that a candidate had to leave office if they said a womans body could dispose of rape sperm. Could you show me that law? Even if one existed which of course it does not. I guarantee the Supreme Court would end it.

I am just so sick of holier than thou people claiming that this was such a great sin. That is why we make laws. If it is a sin fine make a law but until then it is legal. Live with it.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Why the heck is the term “party boss” being used more than Sandra Fluke’s mattress? Ed called Sarah Palin a party boss the other day, now Steve won shut up about it.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 9:26 PM

He said that the woman doesn’t get pregnant if the rape is legitimate. Which means that the rape wasn’t legitimate if the woman gets pregnant.

There are no “motives”. It’s just medieval thinking, like throwing a woman into a lake in order to find out if she’s a witch.

Gelsomina on August 23, 2012 at 9:23 PM

And as I said he is an idiot, but he wasn’t saying that rape victims ask for it etc. I find it funny that Republicans are making this “war on women, war on rape” stand.

The worst thing about Akin wasn’t his gaffe. It was the fact that he didn’t bow out.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:27 PM

No, not really. People in the GOP were telling the ones who endorsed O’Donnell in the primary to get their butts to Delaware to work on her campaign. She was a horrible candidate. It’s was Joe Biden’s seat and we could have won it, like we did with Obama’s seat. That would have been a huge victory.

monalisa on August 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Oh, give me a break. “People in the GOP” were essentially giving Coons some free campaigning from the moment O’Donnell won the primary. GOPers are the only ones who eat their own. O’Donnell may gave been a bad candidate, but she was the one that GOP voters in Delaware chose in the primary.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:28 PM

The worst thing about Akin wasn’t his gaffe. It was the fact that he didn’t bow out.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Concur.

SailorMark on August 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM

It’s. Not. Just. The. Party. Bosses. Do you consider Michelle Malkin a party boss? She thinks he should go.

changer1701 on August 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Saint Sarah too.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Maybe if Saint Sarah’s candidate had won we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM

GOPers are the only ones who eat their own.

They don’t just eat their own. They get as hysterical as Democrats at the transgressing Republican.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Tru dat.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 9:31 PM

castle wasn’t even close to o’donnel in the primary vote so it’s not logical to say he would have beat coons. you have have some base support to win a general election.

that race isn’t the same thing as the akin situation. it’s time to get over delaware.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:32 PM

They don’t just eat their own. They get as hysterical as Democrats at the transgressing Republican.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Well, it’s part of the landscape. GOPers are p****whipped (pardon my French) by the predominant media culture into aping DKos much of the time.

As for Akin, yeah, he should go, though.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:33 PM

He said that the woman doesn’t get pregnant if the rape is legitimate. Which means that the rape wasn’t legitimate if the woman gets pregnant.

There are no “motives”. It’s just medieval thinking, like throwing a woman into a lake in order to find out if she’s a witch.

Gelsomina on August 23, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Yes he did and so what?

Obama said there were 57 States.
Mitt Romney said the Security was wrong for the Olympics well they are over now with out a single mishap. I gurantee the British were just as mad at Mitt as some are at Todd.

But it is also true that he has been saying stupid things similar to this for a very long time. It is also true that many other politicians have made very similar statements.

But none of the other were forced to give up the results of an election they fairly won.

Just give me a single example. Just one.

This was a lawless attempt at a Political Assassination.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Glad you’re back.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 9:33 PM

castle wasn’t even close to o’donnel in the primary vote so it’s not logical to say he would have beat coons. you have have some base support to win a general election.

that race isn’t the same thing as the akin situation. it’s time to get over delaware.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Well, it’s thew usual squish thinking though: taking voters for granted. The same GOP voters who endorsed COD were of COURSE going to be even more enthusiastic about one of their approved, respectable, more-”electable” more-”liberal” types. It’s why we have Romney.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:04 PM

This is not a First Amendment issue. He has the right to say what he wants.

He does not, however, have the right to demand to be free of any consequences from his words.

He does not have a right to party support.

He does not have a right to money from the party or other sources.

He does not have a right to demand that the legions of grassroots volunteers needed to win work phone banks, knock on doors, post signs, or do anything else for him.

He does not have the right to demand that everyone join in his paranoid fantasies about “party bosses,” “the liberal elite,” and the “msm,” who are all part of a conspiracy, along with the Tea Party Express, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, et al, to force him from the race.

He does not have the right to demand that Republicans refrain from backing a write-in candidate.

He doesn’t have the right to demand that his party love or even want him.

He doesn’t have the right to demand that the party and other people, who are supporting Republicans this year, be damaged by his tarbaby-ness in such a critical election year.

He doesn’t have a right to demand anything from any of us.

His measure has been taken and it has been found to be wanting.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 9:36 PM

As for Akin, yeah, he should go, though.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:33 PM

I agree. He is utterly stupid. Any pro-lifer in office for any length of time should be prepared for that question.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:36 PM

To me it just looks like more evidence for something that’s become pretty obvious just from reading these threads lately: that the GOP, or a significant portion of the GOP, is beyond sick and tired of social conservatives and would dearly love to kick the socons out of the GOP, even if it means losing elections.

And this “I’ve had it with these motherf___in’ socons in this motherf___in’ party” attitude is coming out right before the Labor Day before a national election.

Aitch748 on August 23, 2012 at 7:20 PM

It’s not called “The Stupid Party” for nothing.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:12 PM

You understand Sarah Palin has bashed Akin and said he should drop out, right?

joana on August 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Why the heck is the term “party boss” being used more than Sandra Fluke’s mattress? Ed called Sarah Palin a party boss the other day, now Steve won shut up about it.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Maybe Ed did. She did play along in this Assassination so she bares blame.

But no I use it and others do because that is what Todd Akins said had happened to him. The Party Bosses were out to get him from day 1. Then someone with sources within the RNC wrote an article about the plan to make sure another Sharon Angle did not get away with wining a primary. Well this is this Political Assassination plan.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM

the thing i wonder about is if Romney is so quick to tell AKin to get out if Ryan had not worked with AKin on the forcible rape bill. i think that was a factor. ideally you want to deal with this kind of thing in private b/c politicians have an ego.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM

This was a lawless attempt at a Political Assassination.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Lorazepam. Take some, you’re hysterical.

M240H on August 23, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Who made you two or anyone else Judge, Jury and Executioner?

You ever hear of Innocent until proven guilty.

You ever hear of the rule of law?

Guess you and the Party Bosses think they know better than the people of Missouri that wrote the laws that governed this election. Do you think these people were so stupid they never though that it was possible for a Politician to put his foot in his mouth?

You do not like the law. I get that.

What I do not get is why you think you can make up a new law up. What you think gives you that authority.

What I really do not get is what group of legislators got together and decided that a candidate had to leave office if they said a womans body could dispose of rape sperm. Could you show me that law? Even if one existed which of course it does not. I guarantee the Supreme Court would end it.

I am just so sick of holier than thou people claiming that this was such a great sin. That is why we make laws. If it is a sin fine make a law but until then it is legal. Live with it.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:26 PM

What are you babbling about? It’s not against the law to ask the man to step down, nor is a law required to ask him to do so. And nobody said he was breaking any laws saying what he said, just that it was incredibly dumb and incredibly harmful not only to his candidacy, but to other Republicans as well, and that we’d best be served by having someone else in that spot.

changer1701 on August 23, 2012 at 9:38 PM

I agree. He is utterly stupid. Any pro-lifer in office for any length of time should be prepared for that question.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Yeah, but as I said earlier we have Romney as our nominee, who earlier in the year made a statement on the minimum wage of which Henry Waxman would’ve been proud. As long as a gaffe doesn’t draw the ire and derision of the NYT, it’s forgivable.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:39 PM

And as I said he is an idiot, but he wasn’t saying that rape victims ask for it etc. I find it funny that Republicans are making this “war on women, war on rape” stand.

The worst thing about Akin wasn’t his gaffe. It was the fact that he didn’t bow out.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:27 PM

The Democrats are trying to tie Akin to the entire GOP. They want to make the GOP the “Party of Rape”. They are going to succeed if the GOP doesn’t distance itself from him.

Today I had a short discussion with somebody about Romney’s taxes and he told me, “Todd Akin would agree with you.” This thing is spreading like wildfire.

Gelsomina on August 23, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Gosh, I love that woman! *wipes eye*

SailorMark on August 23, 2012 at 9:40 PM

wasn’t o’donnel’s biggest mistake the I’m NOt a Witch ad? how could conservatives know she would make such a stupid defensive ad? you can’t predict everything as a voter. she would have been a more reliable vote than castle though.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:40 PM

You understand Sarah Palin has bashed Akin and said he should drop out, right?

joana on August 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Not that I consider everything Sarah Palin says to be gospel — and not that, unlike you ‘bots, I have to try to rationalize everything she says either — I think she’s right. Akin can’t win now.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:41 PM

how can you akin the entire republican party if everybody has disagreed with him? only people who hate republicans would believe that.

romney is going to win. at worst, we lose this seat and don’t take the senate but we don’t necessarily need the seat to win the senate.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:42 PM

wasn’t o’donnel’s biggest mistake the I’m NOt a Witch ad? how could conservatives know she would make such a stupid defensive ad? you can’t predict everything as a voter. she would have been a more reliable vote than castle though.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Well IIRC one of the reasons she made the ad was that a bunch of GOPers were gleefully jumping on the “witch” meme themselves.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I hate to say it, but I think he has dug his heels in and is going to stay in it.

tom daschle concerned on August 23, 2012 at 9:43 PM

romney is going to win.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:42 PM

I don’t think so. Romney’s a weak debater, and anyway Obama’s going to be declared the winner by the media in any debate the two have. By mid-October I see Obama pulling away.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:45 PM

The Democrats are trying to tie Akin to the entire GOP. They want to make the GOP the “Party of Rape”. They are going to succeed if the GOP doesn’t distance itself from him.

/facepalm

And if it wasn’t Akin the Democratic party would be digging stuff up on Ryan etc. The war on women meme didn’t start with Akin. Anybody who tars all Republicans with Akin and thinks that Republicans “support rape” were never going to vote R anyways.

Today I had a short discussion with somebody about Romney’s taxes and he told me, “Todd Akin would agree with you.” This thing is spreading like wildfire.

Gelsomina on August 23, 2012 at 9:39 PM

The person you were speaking with frankly is an idiot. Again if it wasn’t Akin; it would be Ryan or some other R. The Democrats started this crap before Akin to get the onus off of Obama’s economy policies.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:45 PM

you’d think that delaware election was most important one in the history of the country, been 2 years and some republicans have not gotten over it. that’s the state that put biden up for years…yet the mantra is the people there put a premium on intelligence. o’donnel at least as bright as biden is. it’s a liberal state and castle is a liberal in most states.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Mitt Romney said the Security was wrong for the Olympics well they are over now with out a single mishap.

He said EXACTLY what was in every single British newspaper every single day for over a month leading up to the Games. He was ABSOLUTELY correct in what he said.

It is you, who is obviously ignorant of the fact that the security firm that had been contracted failed miserably and the organisers had to ask the government to send in the military. G4S, the contracted security organisation, grossly underestimated the number of security guards it could vet, hire and train to protect the Games. Many employed by the security firm didn’t even speak English and had failed background cheques.

Further, many unions were threatening to strike in the immediate days before the Games. These included the Tube workers, which would have been a disaster…a far worse one than the 32 mile-long traffic jam that kicked off the festivities.

What Romney said about the Games was NOT a gaffe. It was the truth. His problem was tact.

While many families will be at each other’s throats over holiday dinners, never diss their mommas, if you know what’s good for you. THAT is what happened with Romney. It was fine for the British press to excoriate the Games’ organisers over their mishandling. The British press, on the other hand, was not about to allow a Yank to do it.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Of course, but remember: ALL of that applies also to one Mitt Romney.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:47 PM

obama is a weak debater and romney will be more aggressive than mccain was. that’s most of the battle right there.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:47 PM

I hate to say it, but I think he has dug his heels in and is going to stay in it.

tom daschle concerned on August 23, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Then the GOP will lose in MO. He can’t win, and no amount of Huckabeeing will change that.

At least this should wipe out what little influence the Huckster had left, and we won’t have to deal with him after this election.

PetecminMd on August 23, 2012 at 9:49 PM

What Romney said about the Games was NOT a gaffe. It was the truth. His problem was tact.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 9:46 PM

But that’s what a gaffe is. It isn’t necessarily a falsehood. It’s a self-revelation, much as Romney minimum wage gaffe referenced earlier.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:49 PM

obama the master debater if he can spin the bad economy in the debates.

all romney has to do is say the economy has sucked and you are president. it’s not hard.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:49 PM

obama is a weak debater and romney will be more aggressive than mccain was. that’s most of the battle right there.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Obama’s weak, but Romney’s either going to sit there with his usual goofy debate-smile or bet Obama $10k on something.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Captain Akin of SpermTrek the Next Insemination: “Rapist sperm incoming! Put up those shields, Scotty! Fire Spermton torpedoes, Mr. Data!”

Akin is an absolute loon. He is radioactive.

VorDaj on August 23, 2012 at 9:52 PM

ddrintn.

romney is going to win in a near blowout. it’s going to be bad for obama. he will lose every swing state that he won last time but Bush won, and then he will lose some of the states republicans don’t normally win.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:55 PM

the thing i wonder about is if Romney is so quick to tell AKin to get out if Ryan had not worked with AKin on the forcible rape bill. i think that was a factor. ideally you want to deal with this kind of thing in private b/c politicians have an ego.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Listen up, you bloody, fvcking moron, the stupid bill was about taxpayer funding of abortions. “Forcible rape” is a legal term that even Eric Holder’s Department of Justice uses every single day. It is a defined term with a definition in Black’s Law Dictionary.

The bill did not seek to “redefine” rape. The bill had to do with under which circumstances would there be an exception to the Hyde Amendment…IOW, when would it be legal for Federal funds to be used to pay for abortions. The proposed legislation had “forcible rape” in it originally. That was NOT the final bill.

The FINAL bill was passed in a BIPARTISAN fashion and did not contain the “forcible” qualifier. Thus, pregnancies resulting from ALL rapes would still be covered through Medicaid, if the victim qualified for the programme.

For someone screaming about how we are twisting what Akin said, you are doing a pretty good job a gulping the damn “Ryan and Akin tried to ‘redefine’ rape” kookaide served up by the Left. Neither did and the statement is untrue.

Pants on fire. Pantload of Fat Man & Little Boy.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 9:56 PM

i don’t think Akin is radioactive. If it it had been a long term popular Senator that said it, or Rush, that would be 1 thing. it was somebody nobody ever heard of and everybody knows democrats are plalying politics with him.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:57 PM

resist,

you have to concede it’s not ideal that Ryan wrote a bill about rape with this Akin guy. Democrats have seized on that quickly. Second look at Rubio? :)

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:58 PM

How long did you have to comb through articles to find some evidence that he’s “establishment?”

Seriously, it’s enough to want to get him out of the race. You don’t have to spin tales of where his allegiances lie.

KingGold on August 23, 2012 at 5:37 PM

seriously took about 10 secs. try it type in Akin earmark king. See what pops up. I understand you wanting to distance the DC RNC from this man because he makes the establishment look well like who they really are. however, A 5 term congressman who is on many and chairs committees IS part of the establishment regardless of who he plays when he is running for re-election. This man worked hand in hand with the GOP congressional leadership under bush haster and the present Speaker of the house. And the problem with this eastablishment guy and the others is as long as they check the box on pro-life the socons will keep them in power. AKin is pro-earmark pro big government. He just happens to also be pro-life.

I support small government anti-establishment pro-life people.

unseen on August 23, 2012 at 9:59 PM

But that’s what a gaffe is. It isn’t necessarily a falsehood. It’s a self-revelation, much as Romney minimum wage gaffe referenced earlier.

ddrintn on August 23, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Not necessarily.

Are there 57 states?

Can you see dead soldiers at Memorial Day events?

Is JOBS a 3 letter word?

Those are gaffes…at least, in my book.

Romney would have been better off not making the criticism, but to try and equate what he said in London with what Akin said about the Magical Vajayjay Shield, as Stevie is attempting to do, is asinine.

Romney has made plenty of gaffes over his career. I don’t consider his words on the Games to be one.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:00 PM

And if it wasn’t Akin the Democratic party would be digging stuff up on Ryan etc. The war on women meme didn’t start with Akin. Anybody who tars all Republicans with Akin and thinks that Republicans “support rape” were never going to vote R anyways.

Again if it wasn’t Akin; it would be Ryan or some other R. The Democrats started this crap before Akin to get the onus off of Obama’s economy policies.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 9:45 PM

The “war on women” meme didn’t work – until now. If your enemy wants to kill you, you don’t hand him a gun.

Gelsomina on August 23, 2012 at 10:00 PM

all i did is explain why ROmoney-Ryan were so qouick to call on Akin to drop out. it was b/c Ryan worked on the rape bill with Akin. Just our luck.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Akin can go to H*** and take *uckabee with him. Oh, and make room for Tony Perkins.

These people are jerks who entitled to an opinion but they’re not entitled to take the Republican Party with them.

mbecker908 on August 23, 2012 at 10:01 PM

The “war on women” meme didn’t work – until now. If your enemy wants to kill you, you don’t hand him a gun.

Gelsomina on August 23, 2012 at 10:00 PM

We can’t control if Akin bows out and apparently he has dug in.. So being hysterical and saying Akin says that rape victims deserve it is handing the enemy a gun.

Everyone who is important i.e., people running has distanced themselves from the remark.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 10:02 PM

if there’s not a direction connection to Ryan, i think ROmney and Ryan probably stay quiet on it at least a few more days.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 10:02 PM

you have to concede it’s not ideal that Ryan wrote a bill about rape with this Akin guy. Democrats have seized on that quickly. Second look at Rubio? :)

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 9:58 PM

The bill wasn’t about rape. It was about taxpayer-funded abortion, which most Americans oppose.

Marco Rubio opposes taxpayer-funded abortions, too. I’m not certain, but I think that he opposes the rape/incest exception, too.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:02 PM

You understand Sarah Palin has bashed Akin and said he should drop out, right?

joana on August 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM

You do understand that Sarah Palin was very good at working the center while in Alaska. She is a great mouth piece for Conservatives and she is much closer to us Conservatives than RINOs Like Mitt and McCain. But she went on that interview half cocked thinking that the candidate she endorsed (I prefered) could replace Akin. Wrong law prevents that. She went on to talk about a third party. I think this will really harm her in the long run. I for one have lost most of my respect for her. She should be all for rule of law and not changing the rules after the primary.

I am not saying the Party Bosses did not have a through well though out plan. They did. But it failed and blew up in their faces. I always thought GOD would play a part in this election this may just be part one in his plan. But I have no idea. GOD is GOD and works GODS plan GODs way. I can only marvel and guess.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:03 PM

I dont’ even want someone like Akin to represent Republicans in the Senate.

Missouri is gone and it is the fault of people like Huckabee who give people like Akin cover.

There is simply no excuse for what he said, or his inability to even understand what was so offensive about it.

We can’t do good with bad people in office.

petunia on August 23, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Gosh, I love that woman! *wipes eye*

SailorMark on August 23, 2012 at 9:40 PM

I love you, too.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:04 PM

romneycare was a gafffe that impacted people in Mass. akin’s statement isn’t going to impact anybody except maybe him.

i think democrats going to overdo the war on women stuff at their convention. they always overreach.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 10:04 PM

resist,

you are missing the point. my point is that Romney and Ryan knew Democrats were going to seize on the fact Ryan and Akin had worked together on a bill, and one that was about rape. Hence their quick call publically for Akin to get out of the race.

if no connection to ryan, i think maybe they just ignore it and let others make the call for him to get out.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 10:07 PM

you are missing the point. my point is that Romney and Ryan knew Democrats were going to seize on the fact Ryan and Akin had worked together on a bill, and one that was about rape. Hence their quick call publically for Akin to get out of the race.

if no connection to ryan, i think maybe they just ignore it and let others make the call for him to get out.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 10:07 PM

You’re wrong. The statement was contemptible regardless of what Paul Ryan may or may not have done, which is why many Conservatives and libertarians condemned it and call on Akin’s withdrawal BEFORE R/R’s first statement on the subject.

Trying to tie Ryan to Akin is not going to work. Ryan is not a social issues warrior.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:11 PM

We can’t control if Akin bows out and apparently he has dug in.. So being hysterical and saying Akin says that rape victims deserve it is handing the enemy a gun.

Everyone who is important i.e., people running has distanced themselves from the remark.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Yes, Akin never said or meant that rape victims deserve it, but I don’t think that any of the “important” people in the GOP implied that.

The Democrats will try to spin it that way, of course. But if the hands of the GOP are clean (which means if it is impossible to tie them to Akin) they can fight this spin.

Gelsomina on August 23, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Give me a single example of a Senator that was forced to resign after wining his primary. Just one where he had to resign for some stupid statement.

I believe what Mitt did in England was far worse. Three huge gaffs on his first trip over seas campaigning. I think outing that he got a MI6 briefing was worse. I doubt he could have offended Britain much worse than he did.

All Akin actually did was repeat garbage that had been said by many others including Huckabee who ran for President in 08.

How can you support Romney who was all for Abortion on Demand in 02. That is much bigger than this. Akin was against a rape exception before and after this stupid statement. But Romney is all for a rape exception meaning many will not vote for him in November.

I am sorry that your religion allows no forgiveness. Must suck.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Yes, Akin never said or meant that rape victims deserve it, but I don’t think that any of the “important” people in the GOP implied that.

The Democrats will try to spin it that way, of course. But if the hands of the GOP are clean (which means if it is impossible to tie them to Akin) they can fight this spin.

Gelsomina on August 23, 2012 at 10:11 PM

I still have hope that the next few polls are going so bad that Akin will “smarten” up and leave, but considering his remarks- I don’t see that happening.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Trying to tie Ryan to Akin is not going to work. Ryan is not a social issues warrior.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Right.

Sorry not allowed to your own “facts”.

Ryan did not work on this bill for no reason. Ryan was a “social warrior” until he lost all his principals when he agreed to be the VP Nominee.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

The thing about “gaffes” the ones that hurt are the ones that double down on the narritive the other side is pushing.

Akin doubled down on the narrative already started by Democrats. And he couldn’t even understand what he did. He became what the left said Republican men are. And now so has Huckabee.

They became unsympathetic to women who have been raped. I doubt they meant to do it, but they became the fat, wealthy Republican who wants to run people’s lives…

This is the kind of “gaffe” that ends careers and should.

Like when Obama says that successful people are successful because of government. That is damaging because it is what Obama really believes and it is not what America believes. Obama proved that what we say about him is true.

Akin really thinks women can’t get pregnant if they are really raped… that is awful and that should end his career. It wasn’t a mistake, that is what he thinks is true.

Maybe he couldn’t help himself, just like Obama couldn’t.

petunia on August 23, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Paul Ryan is a social conservative. that’s part of the reason why romney picked him. he’s never tried to be a truce guy on those issues.

again, maybe romney calls on akin to quit, but i think the urgency had something to do with the fact that ryan and akin happened to work together on a bill, and on a bill that involved rape.

democrats have seized on that, look at maureen dowd’s column. i understand what the bill was about. democrats are just going to let people know it was a bill about rape though. and they are right in the general sense. :)

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM

This was a lawless attempt at a Political Assassination.

Stephaniecutter on August 23, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Which law was broken?

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 10:19 PM

if democrats can make this election about abortion and Akin-ize the entire republican party, voters never careda bout the economy in the first place and we were going to lose regardless.

this kind of thing could lturn an election on the WEst Wing tv show, but not in reality.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Not going to comb back through eight pages of posts, but someone did point out that Huckabee thought Tom Dewhurst was TEH BESTEST candidate for Senator in Texas. And NOW he is calling those who disagree with him RINOs?

MunDane68 on August 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Considering 60% of the voters in the primary voted against him, maybe he should reconsider how strong his win really was.

Iblis on August 23, 2012 at 10:25 PM

I doubt he could have offended Britain much worse than he did.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Hey, genius, I am a Brit by birth and my family continues to reside there. You’re wrong. He very much could have offended the Brits more. Obama has proven that during his first term. “Hamlet & Lady Macbeth,” anyone? That’s what Barack and Michelle are called.

All Akin actually did was repeat garbage that had been said by many others including Huckabee who ran for President in 08.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM

LMAO! Is that supposed to make Akin look smart or something? Sorry, I never fell for the whole Huck’n’jive thang.

How can you support Romney who was all for Abortion on Demand in 02. That is much bigger than this.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Dude, I’m a libertarian. I vote on economic and freedom issues. Social issues are at the bottom of my list.

Akin was against a rape exception before and after this stupid statement.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Don’t care. Abortion will never be banned in this country in the cases of rape and incest. Never.

But Romney is all for a rape exception meaning many will not vote for him in November.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Oooh, yeah, so they can either vote for the guy, who voted for a law that banned giving medical treatment to babies that survived abortions, or vote for the guy, who would vote to save most babies from dying from an abortion, would repeal Obamacare, etc. OK. Tell them to stay home and tell them what I tell you all of the time:

IF YOU DON’T VOTE FOR ROMNEY, KEEP YOUR BLOODY TRAP SHUT FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS SHOULD OBAMA WIN REELECTION. WE DO NOT WANT TO HEAR YOUR BELLY-ACHING.

I am sorry that your religion allows no forgiveness. Must suck.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM

I’m an atheist. I’ve already “forgiven” Akins, not that my forgiveness has any relevance. The issue is not forgiveness. The issues are his ignorance, delusion, and winning. He is losing on all 3.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:29 PM

That means this seat is still very winnable by him.

No, it isn’t. the polls will further deteriorate.

But only him as long as he stays in which he will. Only if the Party Bosses reverse themselves and support him.Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:12 PM

You are as delusional as he is. He cannot win this, no matter how much his supporters wish otherwise. It is no longer possible.

alwaysfiredup on August 23, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Right.

Sorry not allowed to your own “facts”.

Ryan did not work on this bill for no reason. Ryan was a “social warrior” until he lost all his principals when he agreed to be the VP Nominee.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Keep telling yourself that. Ryan worked on the bill in response to Obamacare, which would provide funding for abortions through the subsidies for state-run exchanges. The bill would have prevented taxpayer-funded abortions through Medicaid and the state-run subsidised exchanges except in the cases of forcible rape and incest. In other words, federal funding would have been barred in the case of statutory rape. The states could still fund abortions for statutory rape. That was the entire point.

As I said, the overwhelming majority of Americans oppose taxpayer funding of abortion. If the Democrats want to run on using taxpayer money to pay for abortion at any time, then more power to them.

Furthermore, Stevie, anyone, who is going to point to MoDo as an example, is a loon. She “heard” Joe Wilson say “boy.” She believes that Paul Ryan is some sort of Ayn Rand warrior. I only wish that such were true.

Abortion and contraception are not even close to the top of the list of priorities for Americans.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Spot on, Steve has no clue.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Todd’s odds of winning?

Asshat
Knows
It’s
Nil

profitsbeard on August 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

resist , are you pro-choice.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Mike Huckabee has joined an open revolt against Mitt Romney’s leadership over whether Todd Akin should withdraw from the US Mo Senate Race

john.frank on August 23, 2012 at 9:21 PM

That’s the way I see it. Romney and Ryan stated their preference for Akin to drop out. Shouldn’t Akin have given deference to the head of the party? For Akin to ignore the likes of Hannity and Palin ….fine. But to defy the head of the party? And now Huckabee wants to join in? I was pretty neutral on Huckabee before… I think he’s a schmuck now.

lynncgb on August 23, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Agree completely but can not listen to his show. Too confrontational. But where he gets high marks is that not one of the comments he makes isn’t backed up with facts. I suspect he took the career path he did was because he found no challenge as a practicing attorney because he was smarter than anybody in the room. His books are brilliant.

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2012 at 8:02 PM

That’s exactly why Levin is the best.

I love the confrontational nature. Nothing better then calling out the filthy libs and RINOs. No need to sugarcoat it, get fired up and tell it the way it is!

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 10:51 PM

You know, if I type Huckabee in my iPad, it autocorrects to Huckster. The machine is smarter than I thought.

As if I needed reason to dislike this toolbag any more than I already did — this nanny stater social con busybody who thinks he’s the next great boy from Hope. The one who pardons rapists and murderers and supports scholarships for illegals and has never met a tax he doesn’t love. Now he’s going all in for stupid with this other bonehead.

The reason the fiscal cons and moderates are united on this is simple: This election is do or die time for this country. If we do not get the right people elected to turn back Obama’s policies, namely Obamacare, and reform our entitlements, the Republic is going to collapse into the ash heap of history. If there’s even the slimmest of chances that keeping Akin around will alienate enough people from voting for R&R and other downticket Republicans, then he simply has to go. Otherwise we will be too busy fighting over food to be worried much about who is going to protect the rights of the unborn.

We’re on the brink of fiscal collapse, people. And sorry social cons, but this election is not about social issues. It’s about ripping out the Marxist policies of the left by their root and supplanting it with something that will grow and prosper instead. THEN maybe we will have the luxury of debating social issues in the public square again. But not this election. Sorry. And if protecting the rights of the unborn is such a lofty goal of Akin’s and Huckabee’s, then they should but that goal above any personal political aspirations. Akin keeps prattling on about principle. Well if your azz getting out means a better chance of overturning Obamacare, then maybe you need to fall on your sword, dude.

NoLeftTurn on August 23, 2012 at 10:54 PM

IF YOU DON’T VOTE FOR ROMNEY, KEEP YOUR BLOODY TRAP SHUT FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS SHOULD OBAMA WIN REELECTION. WE DO NOT WANT TO HEAR YOUR BELLY-ACHING.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:29 PM

That’s awesome !! Exactly how I feel!! These losers forfeit their right to b!tch about obama if they do nothing to stop him!

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 10:54 PM

resist , are you pro-choice.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Personally, I’m against abortion. I wouldn’t care if Roe v Wade was overturned. As a lawyer, I’ve always found the legal reasoning dubious, at best, and troubling in its eerie similarity to Dred Scott, at worst. Having said that, I’m never going to protest against it or attempt to stop a woman from having an abortion. The issue is not high up on the list of my priorities and I believe that extreme so-cons make the same mistake that some on the Left do.

As I have written about SSM:

“As a libertarian, I don’t care what consenting adults do to themselves or to each other. I am pro-SSM. Hell, I am not even opposed to triads. The problem is that you go out of your way to be intolerant, hateful and belligerent to people of faith (not me, I’m an atheist). I might support SSM, but it is not an issue that would ever drive me to the polls…especially as long as you and your comrades continue to employ the militant tactics that you do.”

The Self-Defeating Left

The same is pretty much true for me when it comes to abortion. If it were the only issue on the ballot, I doubt that I would be motivated enough to go to the polls. It’s just not that important to me even though I’ve posted items such as this:

And, Now, For A Word About Abortion From…Johnny Rotten & Sid Vicious of The Sex Pistols

Betcha didn’t know that The Sex Pistols were pro-life…

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Spot on, Steve has no clue.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM

The dude would fit in well with Paul Pot and the Paulistinians.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Huck-a-phony. Pro-life liberal.

exdeadhead on August 23, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Who made you two or anyone else Judge, Jury and Executioner?

I’ve never killed anyone.

You ever hear of Innocent until proven guilty.

Sufficient proof of Akins flaws has been presented.

You ever hear of the rule of law?

Which law?

Guess you and the Party Bosses think they know better than the people of Missouri that wrote the laws that governed this election.

I know just as much as the 62% of Missourians who don’t want Akin and the 66% of Missouri GOP who opposed him in the primary.

You do not like the law. I get that.

Which law? Keep in mind, I’m Canadian and it is very difficult to violate US law from my current location.

What I do not get is why you think you can make up a new law up. What you think gives you that authority.

I haven’t.

What I really do not get is what group of legislators got together and decided that a candidate had to leave office if they said a womans body could dispose of rape sperm.

No one has asked him to leave his current office. Just to stop campaigning for a new one. No one has attempted to force him out either.

I am just so sick of holier than thou people claiming that this was such a great sin.

What he said was pretty nasty.

That is why we make laws. If it is a sin fine make a law but until then it is legal.

So is what we and Sarah Palin, Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh, and all the other “party bosses” are doing are doing.

Live with it.

Stephaniecutter on August 23, 2012 at 9:26 PM

You should as well.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 11:06 PM

resist

you are not pro-life unless you actively wish for the repeal of Roe Vs. Wade.

your passive approach is basically what a lot of pro-choicers do, they say they are opposed personally but don’t want to ban it for others.

well why are you personally opposed to it if nothing wrong with it if others do it? you personally opposition to it can only be rooted in the idea it’s life being aborted.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:09 PM

if abortion was on the ballot and you wouldn’t vote even show up for a vote, you aren’t pro-life. i’m the laziest voter in the world but i’d show up for that vote. :)

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:11 PM

huck’s just boosting his radio show by picking the less popular controversial side of an issue while shoring up his social conservative niche. that may end up blowing up his face though. we’ll see how long cares about being friends with this guy. teh heh.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Tes, I told you that I am not a social issues voter. I am not moved by them. As a libertarian, I think the government should leave us alone. I am far more concerned about economic and liberty issues.

You can label me as you see fit. Frankly, I don’t care.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM

I recommend you wait for RWM to respond at least once before posting a 4th time.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Tes, I told you that I am not a social issues voter. I am not moved by them. As a libertarian, I think the government should leave us alone. I am far more concerned about economic and liberty issues.

You can label me as you see fit. Frankly, I don’t care.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM

I think he likes you. He’s just having a hard time saying it.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM

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