Huckabee: Second look at Todd Akin

posted at 4:41 pm on August 23, 2012 by Allahpundit

Akin’s first defensive move after people tried to get him to quit was to frame this as a “conservatives vs. liberal elite media” fight. Since his main “liberal media” tormentor was Sean Hannity, that didn’t work. So then he tried to make it a “grassroots conservatives vs. party bosses” thing. That didn’t work either once the Tea Party Express called on him to quit. Now here comes the “social conservatives vs. RINO moderates” pitch. From the man who endorsed David Dewhurst in Texas…

The Party’s leaders have for reasons that aren’t rational, left him behind on the political battlefield, wounded and bleeding, a casualty of his self-inflicted, but not intentional wound. In a Party that supposedly stands for life, it was tragic to see the carefully orchestrated and systematic attack on a fellow Republican. Not for a moral failure or corruption or a criminal act, but for a misstatement which he contritely and utterly repudiated. I was shocked by GOP leaders and elected officials who rushed so quickly to end the political life of a candidate over a mistaken comment in an interview. This was a serious mistake, but it was blown out of proportion not by the left, but by Akin’s own Republican Party. Is this what the party really thinks of principled pro-life advocates? Do we forgive and forget the verbal gaffes of Republicans who are “conveniently pro-life” for political advantage, but crucify one who truly believes that every life is sacred?

Who ordered this “Code Red” on Akin? There were talking point memos sent from the National Republican Senatorial Committee suggesting language to urge Akin to drop out. Political consultants were ordered to stay away from Akin or lose future business with GOP committees. Operatives were recruited to set up a network of pastors to call Akin to urge him to get out. Money has changed hands to push him off the plank. It is disgraceful. From the spotlights of political offices and media perches, it may appear that the demand for Akin’s head is universal in the party. I assure you it is not. There is a vast, but mostly quiet army of people who have an innate sense of fairness and don’t like to see a fellow political pilgrim bullied. If Todd Akin loses the Senate seat, I will not blame Todd Akin. He made his mistake, but was man enough to admit it and apologize. I’m waiting for the apology from whoever the genius was on the high pedestals of our party who thought it wise to not only shoot our wounded, but run over him with tanks and trucks and then feed his body to the liberal wolves. It wasn’t just Todd Akin that was treated with contempt by the thinly veiled attack on Todd Akin. It was all the people who have faithfully knocked doors, made calls, and made sacrificial contributions to elect Republicans because we thought we were welcome in the party. Todd Akin owned his mistake. Who will step up and admit the effort being made to discredit Akin and apologize for the sleazy way it’s been handled?

There’s more at the link. The timing is no coincidence, I take it: Akin met with a group of social conservative leaders and activists in Tampa last night, presumably to plan some sort of coordinated pushback against the calls for him to get out. According to Tony Perkins, the goal was “to talk to him and encourage him in the stand he’s been taking.” Makes sense that Huckabee, who has huge name recognition and a megaphone at Fox News, would take the lead on it. But he’s not alone:

“Following the pounding of Todd Akin by the GOP kings and lieutenants in the last 36 hours, I’ve come to the conclusion that the real issue is the soul of America,” wrote David Lane, an evangelical activist who’s influential in the Republican Party, in an e-mail to fellow activists Thursday morning.

“The swift knee-jerk reaction to throw Akin, a strong conservative pro-life, pro-family born again Christian under the bus by some in the Republican Party is shining the light on their actual agenda,” Lane continued.

“We haven’t seen anything this vicious since some of the same operatives did this to (Sarah) Palin.”

Perkins also sent out a blast e-mail last night noting that the GOP has stood by moderates in the past and therefore “Singling out Todd suggests a double standard, designed to drive out social conservatives.” Why are heavy hitters like him and Huckabee ready to fight and die on Magic Uterus Hill when there’s overwhelming bipartisan disgust at Akin for what he said? Because, I think, of the phenomenon that Phil Klein identified in his piece at the Examiner this morning. This is the first time since the rise of the tea party that virtually the entire right, including the Tea Party Express, has united against a Republican candidate for saying something fringe-y enough to imperil his chances of winning. An exasperated Jim Geraghty points to Christine O’Donnell, Sharron Angle, and Carl Paladino and writes, “These candidates and their teams always insist that they know better. They always insist that they have some sort of secret understanding of the race, some sort of secret game plan or strategy that will completely change the circumstances. And they always, always, always lose.” (Not surprisingly, Sharron Angle’s campaign manager is fully supportive of Akin staying in.) Klein’s point is that a lot of conservatives have come to feel the same exasperation about winnable seats, especially in an election cycle that represents the last chance to repeal ObamaCare before the program starts.

What makes Huck et al. nervous about that, I think, is that if Akin drops out and his replacement wins the seat, Republicans may conclude that good things can happen for the party if it’s unforgiving of controversial pronouncements by socially conservative candidates. Akin’s not the only man in America with funny ideas about women’s alleged biological rape defenses, after all. Which beliefs are too controversial for a candidate to hold, and will the standard for that shift over time? None of this is meant as a defense of Akin, mind you — I think he should go pronto for his crankery, the upshot of which was to suggest that it’s not really rape if a woman gets pregnant — but this is why I think you’re seeing a circling of the wagons from social conservatives. It’s not so much about Akin as the fact that they’d rather lose this seat and keep the Overton window where it is for future GOP candidates than win by letting it shift, because no one knows exactly where it might shift to.

You’ll be pleased to know, incidentally, that Claire McCaskill thinks that Rasmussen poll showing her up 10 points is awfully fishy and that Akin has a much better chance of beating her than anyone thinks. I guess he’d better stay in the race then, huh? Exit question: Huck et al. keep noting that Akin has apologized repeatedly and therefore should be forgiven. Has he apologized for the actual nuts and bolts of what he said, though? When he talked to Huckabeethe other day, he made it sound like his mistake was simply using the word “legitimate” in the context of rape. (“I said one word in one sentence on one day, and everything changed.”) But his more substantive mistake was passing along quack science about the likelihood of pregnancy during violent sexual assault. Has he apologized for that too? I’m asking earnestly; I might have missed it.

Update: A few people on Twitter have wondered whether the RNC should rescind Huckabee’s invitation to speak at the convention for this. You think? You think Mitt Romney, whose abortion flip-flopping has already made him untrustworthy to social cons, is going to restart a war with Huck 10 weeks out from election day — when all Huck’s really doing is defending the GOP nominee for Senate in Missouri? C’mon.


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Obama’s not going to win, and anything I donate to Romney isn’t going to swing the election.

You do what you do and let me do what i do or don’t do.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:41 PM

I can’t believe this Utopian postulating. That’s usually reserved for liberals.

Yes, in a perfect world, Akin could hit the reset button and we’d all forgive and forget. In a perfect world he’d still be a viable candidate.

We don’t live in a perfect world, though. For my Christian cohorts, you will remember that Jesus said, “Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves” (Matthew 10:16). Well, Akin might be ‘harmless’ in intent, but he was certainly not as wise as a serpent.

And since we don’t live in the perfect world, he’s political toast now. Nothing anyone says or does can overcome that.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 23, 2012 at 7:42 PM

So they think everybody else is overreacting. They can’t wrap their head around the fact they’re the ones under-reacting.

joana

You are overreacting….as usual. But the damage is done now, and the seat is toast. Good job.

xblade on August 23, 2012 at 7:42 PM

look if romeny can’t beat obama with this piss poor economy without some money from me or without me putting out campaign signs, it’s on him, not me and peopl elike me. it doesn’t get better than this for the REpublican party. it’s theirs to lose.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:42 PM

If Akin had said the same thing about men rather than women, it wouldn’t ‘be a big deal. males don’t care about this stuff.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I hope McCaskill creams Akin by 70 points. I knew this ass was in this up to his eyeballs. And I hope he’s ruined because of it.

Marcus on August 23, 2012 at 7:08 PM

But Huck says if he loses, its our fault.

Robb on August 23, 2012 at 7:24 PM

So let me get this straight.

Todd Akin won the election by 6%.

Party Bosses hated him day he won. They railed against him on five different issues until they finally found one the left would also use against him. Even though he apologised and took it back. The Party Bosses got several Prominent RINO’s including the biggest one Mitt Romney to ask him to resign even though this had never once been done in the past. They built pressure with a supposed deadline so some Conservatives even called on him to resign even though this has never once been done in the past.

Is your argument really. Hey the Party Bosses implemented a great plan to force out a man they did not like. But they have no fault.

Tod Akin said a stupid thing no doubt. But the rest is all on the Party Bosses who should have supported him once he apologized. Said sure that stupid statement that not a single Republican believes have no idea where it came from but I assure you he does not believe that now. Next question.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Why doesn’t it bother Huckabee that Akin’s biggest donors are all Democrats?

batterup on August 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM

This is not a matter of principle.It is about a candidate who so inartfully articulates a policy so as to make him utterly inelectable.What is wrong with “I am pro-life in all circumstances”.Period!Then move on to the issues at the heart of this campaign.Akin,and not the party bosses is completely to blame here.And Huckabee’s ego is so big he cannot see the truth.His candidate is mortally wounded and self-inflicted to boot.Give it up Governor-you backed the wrong candidate,now tell him so!

redware on August 23, 2012 at 7:46 PM

that expression “party boss” cracks me up. sounds so retro.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:46 PM

I’m an intellectual, not a political activist.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:40 PM

More like a lazy blowhard who doesn’t want to put in any hard work.

Or you could be a moby who likes to spam every thread and possibly be a closet obama supporter.

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Why doesn’t it bother Huckabee that Akin’s biggest donors are all Democrats?

batterup on August 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Because, like Stevie, he’s all too focused on the fantastical “vast, so-con-hating conspiracy of Party Bosses.”

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Obama’s not going to win, and anything I donate to Romney isn’t going to swing the election.

You do what you do and let me do what i do or don’t do.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:41 PM

It doesn’t say much for you that you find the need to “chill out” and run your mouth on here is more important then ensuring obama loses.

And I’ll continue to call you and other blowhards out for this. If you can’t stand the heat, then get outta da kitchen.

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

I’m an intellectual, not a political activist.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:40 PM

An “intellectual” with an IQ in the mid double digits.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

If Akin had said the same thing about men rather than women, it wouldn’t ‘be a big deal. males don’t care about this stuff.
Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Why don’t you leave that to males that have actually seen a woman nude.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Levin,

why should i go do that stuff in SC or TX or AL, for instance? States obama can’t win.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

And since we don’t live in the perfect world, he’s political toast now. Nothing anyone says or does can overcome that.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 23, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Give me just one example from the past of this being done.

Just one.

A single one.

NO NO NO.

These Party Bosses are the only ones with fault here.

They are the ones that should be run out of town Romney included. But you are right this is not a perfect world. So the best I would expect is they would now cut their losses and support Akin. Anything less and after Mitt loses in November we will run them out of town for good.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

One man started this entire cluster. One man still has it in his power to end it. Honor demands that Akin fall on his sword. Life isn’t fair sometimes. Ask the trooper who throws himself on a grenade to save his buddies.

Metanis on August 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Why doesn’t it bother Huckabee that Akin’s biggest donors are all Democrats?

batterup on August 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Who do you think bankrolled Huck?

Huckabee calls himself an evangelical Christian and while I will not question his faith, I will disagree with him that Christ was a socialist. Neither he nor Akin are bad people but they hold views that I simply will never agree with.

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

If the gender divide on Akin is manifesting even on Hot Air imagine what’s going on with moderate and independent women. This thing is reverberating. Here’s hoping more conservative men like Cyclone continue to mansplain how women’s bodies work to women. Its a winning strategy.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Yes, and won’t the Dopey Dems look foolish in what AP calls their three-day Abortionpalooza? Yes, abortion is the NUMBER ONE priority of center-right America. But I condone the Dems’ strategy. The more they exploit the professional college student/liberal Sandra Fluke and her $3K-a-year birth control habit, the better.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

LevinFan,

Even Mark Levin doesn’t do the grassroots stuff. he may donate some money but he’s got more than i do.

I give to cancer research and other stuff. I let others donate to politics. it all evens out.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Tod Akin said a stupid thing no doubt. But the rest is all on the Party Bosses who should have supported him once he apologized. Said sure that stupid statement that not a single Republican believes have no idea where it came from but I assure you he does not believe that now. Next question.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Can we cut out the party bosses crap? It was dumb when Akin claimed it, and it’s dumb when others in his defense do the same. It isn’t just the establishment calling for him to take his arse elsewhere…it’s conservatives (like Michelle Malkin) and Tea Partiers, too. Everyone seems to get it, except Akin, his family, and those who’ve turned this into a ‘woe is me, the darn Party is attacking us again’ thing. That’s not what it is. He was unelectable the second he uttered those words, no matter how apologetic he was afterward, and he hung this around the necks of every other Republican in the process. THAT is the problem, THAT is why he was asked to get out, and THAT is not the fault of party bosses.

changer1701 on August 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Levin,

why should i go do that stuff in SC or TX or AL, for instance? States obama can’t win.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Very simple. Sign up for a phone bank. It’ll have you make calls to swing states and even gives you some talking points.

I did it for Santorum, maybe if others like yourself did so as well he’d be the nominee.

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 7:52 PM

SInce i have no idea what Romney is going to do as president, i’d be more relunctant to donate to him if I was one who donated to politicians.
it’s one thing to donate to him, quite enough to give him money if i have no clue what he plans to do. i think he has money advantage regardless over Obama and like I said, i fhe can’t beat Obama with this economy, he’s a horrible candidate and/or the country has moved to the left for good.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:53 PM

LevinFan,

Even Mark Levin doesn’t do the grassroots stuff. he may donate some money but he’s got more than i do.

I give to cancer research and other stuff. I let others donate to politics. it all evens out.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Levin gets the truth out every night and writes great books explaining the tyrannical threats we face.

Landmark Legal Foundation has fought obamacare, defended Arizona, and countless other causes.

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I’m an intellectual, not a political activist.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Call me old fashioned but in my world, one does not self-describe themselves as an intellectual. That is for others to decide. I’ve known people that are dumber than a stump that think they are intellectuals.

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

LevinFan,

SOunds like i’m more confident Romney will win than most on here. the only thing you can say has gone Democrat’s way in a long time is Todd Akin’s comment but that won’t be enough to stop the bloodbathe that is coming.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

You are overreacting….as usual. But the damage is done now, and the seat is toast. Good job.

xblade on August 23, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Hahaha. Right, it was my fault. Not Akin. It was the reaction.

And the seat is toast if he doesn’t drop out of the race. Once he withdraws, McCaskill is toast. But the self-obsessed freaks like Akin, Huckabee and Perkins couldn’t care less about that. Actually, the best way of riling up their base and having donations pouring is with the democrats in power.

joana on August 23, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Intellectuals refer to themselves as this all the time. Even John Derbyshire does and he got booted from National REview for pretty obvious racist comment.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:55 PM

SInce i have no idea what Romney is going to do as president, i’d be more relunctant to donate to him if I was one who donated to politicians.
it’s one thing to donate to him, quite enough to give him money if i have no clue what he plans to do. i think he has money advantage regardless over Obama and like I said, i fhe can’t beat Obama with this economy, he’s a horrible candidate and/or the country has moved to the left for good.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:53 PM

To have a shot at saving this country it’s more than worth to donate to ROmney.

He’s promised to repeal obamacare. It’d be political suicide not to do it…. and we can as long as we take the senate (no thanks to egomaniacs like Akin).

And looks like he’s serious about some budget cuts and entitlement reform by picking Ryan.

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Who’s “we”?

Look, I’m a staunch conservative. But I don’t follow anyone’s “party line”, and I don’t support candidates who are not ready for prime time. Akin is a great disservice to conservatives the country over. HE might well foist ObamaCare on my children…because of, you know, “principles”. Whatever that’s supposed to mean.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 23, 2012 at 7:56 PM

again Levin’s job is politics. I don’t make money in that arena as a engineer, and engineering jobs are mindless jobs. I’m tired at the end of the day, last thing i want to do is go shill for Mr. Romney. and i budget my money for things and political candidates don’t make the cut. i’ll stay open minded on it, but a hundred dollars from me isn’t going to change an election. I’m not delusional.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Intellectuals refer to themselves as this all the time. Even John Derbyshire does and he got booted from National REview for pretty obvious racist comment.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Most intellectuals display impeccable grammar and spelling.

YMMV…

Grace_is_sufficient on August 23, 2012 at 7:58 PM

It’s an unforgivable insult to every victim who did get pregnant from an assault, suggesting as it does that she wasn’t sufficiently traumatized by the incident to magically prevent conception.

Murf76

Except that isn’t the suggestion, unless you’re desperately looking for a reason to be offended….kind of like libs are.

You know the body has all kinds of defense mechanisms against infection and disease, right? That doesn’t mean we never get sick. It would be no different if his theory were correct(and I’m not saying it is). If such a defense mechanism existed, it wouldn’t work every time. But since we’re talking about one of the libs favorite protected classes, we have go along with appeals to emotion arguments like the one you made.

Next up….an intellectually dishonest poster will say I think babies are a disease in 5…4…3…2…

xblade on August 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM

again Levin’s job is politics. I don’t make money in that arena as a engineer, and engineering jobs are mindless jobs. I’m tired at the end of the day, last thing i want to do is go shill for Mr. Romney. and i budget my money for things and political candidates don’t make the cut. i’ll stay open minded on it, but a hundred dollars from me isn’t going to change an election. I’m not delusional.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Levin also does speeches for AMericans for Prosperity and doesn’t take a dime for it.

Imagine if everyone had the mindset that “oh $100 from me won’t make a difference!”

Those small donations add up really fast!

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM

If the gender divide on Akin is manifesting even on Hot Air imagine what’s going on with moderate and independent women. This thing is reverberating. Here’s hoping more conservative men like Cyclone continue to mansplain how women’s bodies work to women. Its a winning strategy.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM</bl
Mansplain. You get that word from your latest NAG meeting? So in your world, all OB/GYNs are female? Oooookay…makes sense, provided all proctologists are Democrats.

CycloneCDB on August 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM

If the gender divide on Akin is manifesting even on Hot Air imagine what’s going on with moderate and independent women. This thing is reverberating. Here’s hoping more conservative men like Cyclone continue to mansplain how women’s bodies work to women. Its a winning strategy.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM

So apparently you speak homosexuals, blacks and now women too. I told you just because you are attracted to men like a woman does not make you a woman.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM

I have a hard time giving money to the RomneyCare guy. He seems like a a decent person but not going to give him money. Dude can give himself more money than I can. I’m just a lower middle class mechanical engineer trying to make ends meet and take care of my seven sexually active daughters.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Tesla is so tired at the end of day that he can blabber on hotgas for hours but picking up the phone to stop obama is out of the question.

A real patriot.

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

donations add up fast even if i don’t donate. 1 person doesn’t matter and again i’m not well off. lot of beaks to feed.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

…I’m out for now.

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

I am just stunned there there are some people who apparently think that its no big deal to tell 32,000 rape victims (this year alone) that they liked it, that they wanted it.

You don’t get to say something like that and still be a Senator.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

You are overreacting….as usual. But the damage is done now, and the seat is toast. Good job.

xblade on August 23, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Gnatbrain, Akin toasted it. Period. Story. End of.

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Levin gets the truth out every night and writes great books explaining the tyrannical threats we face.

LevinFan on August 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Agree completely but can not listen to his show. Too confrontational. But where he gets high marks is that not one of the comments he makes isn’t backed up with facts. I suspect he took the career path he did was because he found no challenge as a practicing attorney because he was smarter than anybody in the room. His books are brilliant.

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2012 at 8:02 PM

well i’m convinced i changed a lot of minds here and people wre going to vote for Akin if stays on the ballot b/c ObamaCare matters more than their own diva pride. i think we at least want to force obama to spend a little money in missouri defending that seat. :)

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 8:02 PM

I am just stunned there there are some people who apparently think that its no big deal to tell 32,000 rape victims (this year alone) that they liked it, that they wanted it.

You don’t get to say something like that and still be a Senator.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Indeed.

changer1701 on August 23, 2012 at 8:03 PM

donations add up fast even if i don’t donate. 1 person doesn’t matter and again i’m not well off. lot of beaks to feed.
Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Is that a gay joke?

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 8:04 PM

It’s an unforgivable insult to every victim who did get pregnant from an assault, suggesting as it does that she wasn’t sufficiently traumatized by the incident to magically prevent conception.

Murf76

I am so sick of everyone reading more into Akin’s stupid statement that was there. It was medically ignorant, but ascribing motives to it is as ignorant as the original statement. He wasn’t deparaging rape victims. I swear some of you are a bunch of Democrats in training.

As I said in an earlier board, I say this as someone who is a rape survivor. The man made a stupid career killing blunder, because in a close race any detrimental gaffe can be exploited-especially a let’s not read nefarious motives that aren’t there. Let’s leave that to the Democrats.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:04 PM

He’s still quoting Dr. John C. Willke,

joana on August 23, 2012 at 7:20 PM

So you going to throw Romney under the bus too?:

However, Dr Willke told The Daily Telegraph that he did meet Mr Romney during a presidential primary campaign stop in the doctor’s home city of Cincinnati, Ohio, in October last year. Local news reports at the time noted that the candidate held “private meetings” during the visit.

sauldalinsky on August 23, 2012 at 8:04 PM

If the gender divide on Akin is manifesting even on Hot Air imagine what’s going on with moderate and independent women. This thing is reverberating. Here’s hoping more conservative men like Cyclone continue to mansplain how women’s bodies work to women. Its a winning strategy.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Mansplain. You get that word from your latest NAG meeting? So in your world, all OB/GYNs are female? Oooookay…makes sense, provided all proctologists are Democrats.

CycloneCDB on August 23, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Dewhurst, Akin . . . Huckabee sure knows how to pick some real winners.

WannabeAnglican on August 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM

because in a close race any detrimental gaffe can be exploited-especially in a close race. He should bow out but let’s not read nefarious motives that aren’t there. Let’s leave that to the Democrats.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Ugh part of my post disappeared.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:07 PM

seven sexually active daughters.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

so thats why my sevens sons beaks are wet!

renalin on August 23, 2012 at 8:07 PM

<blockquote>I am just stunned there there are some people who apparently think that its no big deal to tell 32,000 rape victims (this year alone) that they liked it, that they wanted it.
You don’t get to say something like that and still be a Senator.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Oh whatever…

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:07 PM

If the gender divide on Akin is manifesting even on Hot Air imagine what’s going on with moderate and independent women. This thing is reverberating. Here’s hoping more conservative men like Cyclone continue to mansplain how women’s bodies work to women. Its a winning strategy.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM

It’s pissing you off that the GOP isn’t playing that strategy, isn’t it?

Romney has you cornered on energy, the deficit, health care, jobs/unemployment, foreign policy and come the end of next week, you will witness the firepower of Romney’s fully armed and operational battle station!

Enjoy your consolation prize.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Huckabee picked ANdy Bauer in SC for govenor and he came in like 5th place. i have a hard time believing his endorsements matter.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Mike Huckabee…………Der Slickmeister II.

HuckaNO.

PappyD61 on August 23, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Hahaha. Right, it was my fault. Not Akin. It was the reaction.

Nope….Akin screwed up. Folks like you tripled down and made it worse.

And the seat is toast if he doesn’t drop out of the race. Once he withdraws, McCaskill is toast. But the self-obsessed freaks like Akin, Huckabee and Perkins couldn’t care less about that. Actually, the best way of riling up their base and having donations pouring is with the democrats in power.

joana

The seat is toast either way now. It wouldn’t have been easy, and it could have been salvaged, but folks on our side were so afraid we’ll be called woman haters that they tried to out lib the libs in expressing their horror at what he said. I don’t blame you for that though. You post stupid stuff all the time, lol.

xblade on August 23, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Hey Iowa……..YOU LET THIS DOPE win your primary in 2008.

At least he’s just a joke now. Hope he’s stashing his millions now, he’s going to need them when his shows are cancelled.

PappyD61 on August 23, 2012 at 8:12 PM

well i’m convinced i changed a lot of minds here and people wre going to vote for Akin if stays on the ballot b/c ObamaCare matters more than their own diva pride.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 8:02 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Have another shot… or toke… or snort… or whatever. Maybe one of each will help you think more clearly.

farsighted on August 23, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Memo to Huckabee; it’s about WINNING. In an election year when so much is riding on the line what good is it to have an ardent believer who can’t win an election???

To call Todd Akin’s comments merely a “self-inflicted wound” is to completely miss the MAGNITUDE of what he said.

Brings to mind Monty Python’s Holy Grail: “It’s only a flesh wound.”

Except this isn’t funny.

tyrex on August 23, 2012 at 8:13 PM

The seat is toast either way now. It wouldn’t have been easy, and it could have been salvaged, but folks on our side were so afraid we’ll be called woman haters that they tried to out lib the libs in expressing their horror at what he said. I don’t blame you for that though. You post stupid stuff all the time, lol.

xblade on August 23, 2012 at 8:11 PM

OMG exactly! It is horrifying to hear Republicans saying his statement was akin to saying rape victims wanted it. Drama queen much?

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:14 PM

really people? WHO REPLACES AKIN? i’m waiting………..especially since steele and the other guy are barred from running.

tm11999 on August 23, 2012 at 8:20 PM

I never did like or trust HuckChuck – his support for Akin is proof he’s not serious about anything except HuckChuck’s career. Akin cannot – and frankly should not – win. Huck should be helping him out not egg him on.

CatoRenasci on August 23, 2012 at 8:22 PM

OMG exactly! It is horrifying to hear Republicans saying his statement was akin to saying rape victims wanted it. Drama queen much?

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:14 PM

No, he just said that if you got pregnant after getting raped, essentially it wasn’t a legitimate rape. Apparently that is fine with social conservatives. Christ you people are insane.

thphilli on August 23, 2012 at 8:24 PM

I’m a pseudo-intellectual, not a political activist.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:40 PM

FIFY

WisCon on August 23, 2012 at 8:26 PM

OMG exactly! It is horrifying to hear Republicans saying his statement was akin to saying rape victims wanted it. Drama queen much?

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:14 PM
No, he just said that if you got pregnant after getting raped, essentially it wasn’t a legitimate rape. Apparently that is fine with social conservatives. Christ you people are insane.

thphilli on August 23, 2012 at 8:24 PM

You are ascribing motives to a statement. He made a medically ignorant statement and should have bowed out- but you people are a bunch of PC Democrat drama queens. You frickin people are insane and dumb. See I can play the rhetoric games as well.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I can’t believe you bought into a sad sack story posted by an annoymous commenter!

LOL.

Oh wait – no … wait … I’m a WOMAN WHO VIOLENTLY RAPED BY AKIN AND I STILL SUPPORT HIM!

Believe me?

LOL!!

HondaV65 on August 23, 2012 at 6:49 PM

You believe what you want to believe. That is my name unlike you posting as “honda”. I have NOTHING to hide from or be embarrassed by. I was attacked by 3 men while I was closing down a video rental store when I was 17 years old. Instead of hiding in a hole I work with other women at rape crisis centers and have over 20,000 hours of volunteer work there. I will pray that your wife or girlfriend or daughter never has to be held down and beaten and violated like I was. And I will pray for your pathetic soul…you obviously need it.

speppers69 on August 23, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Hey Iowa……..YOU LET THIS DOPE win your primary in 2008.

At least he’s just a joke now. Hope he’s stashing his millions now, he’s going to need them when his shows are cancelled.

PappyD61 on August 23, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Akin for President 2016: Hey Iowa Will Vote Him, So Why the **** Not Take Him Seriously?

Seriously, Iowa has thoroughly beclowned itself with its caucus racket in the last decade. Dean, Obama, Huckabee, Santorum, ethanol and wind energy tax credits– the list just goes on. At some point, as a nation, we must band together and do the right thing. If there is a single spot of bipartisan agreement in this country, surely it is that the clowns in Iowa should be placed at the back of the line in determining fitness for President (note: fitness for President is not determined by who can eat the most fried items in front of cameras at the State Fair).

Lawdawg86 on August 23, 2012 at 8:29 PM

I’m an intellectual, not a political activist.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 7:40 PM

That’s risible nonsense. Anyone other than a medical doctor who signs himself “Dr.” is a poseur and a twit.

CatoRenasci on August 23, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Tesla has departed for a few weeks.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 8:29 PM

You believe what you want to believe. That is my name unlike you posting as “honda”. I have NOTHING to hide from or be embarrassed by. I was attacked by 3 men whileI was closing down a video rental store when I was 17 years old. Instead of hiding in a hole I work with other women at rape crisis centers and have over 20,000 hours of volunteer work there. I will pray that your wife or girlfriend or daughter never has to be held down and beaten and violated like I was. And I will pray for your pathetic soul…you obviously need it.

speppers69 on August 23, 2012 at 8:28 PM

I am so sorry to hear your story. I was raped when I was 14 years old. Why shouldn’t we talk about it? There is nothing to be ashamed of!

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:31 PM

You are ascribing motives to a statement. He made a medically ignorant statement and should have bowed out- but you people are a bunch of PC Democrat drama queens. You frickin people are insane and dumb. See I can play the rhetoric games as well.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:27 PM

No, us people know how easy it will be to take what he said and ascribe it to the entire republican party. We know how MONUMENTALLY STUPID what he said was, and we realize that if we don’t get him the hell out of the party as quick as possible, its going to have nothing but negative effects.

Now social con idiots see literally the entire republican party telling this guy to get out, and their first reaction is “Well he is a Christian so they must be anti-Christian”. Instead of seeing the big picture, they see it as a slight to their certain crazy issues. They literally don’t care if it costs Romney 1% of the vote come November and he ends up losing and Obama gets to appoint 2 more Supreme Court justices. As long as they stand up for their utterly moronic Christian because of his stances on social issues, thats all they care about.

thphilli on August 23, 2012 at 8:31 PM

No, us people know how easy it will be to take what he said and ascribe it to the entire republican party. We know how MONUMENTALLY STUPID what he said was, and we realize that if we don’t get him the hell out of the party as quick as possible, its going to have nothing but negative effects.

Now social con idiots see literally the entire republican party telling this guy to get out, and their first reaction is “Well he is a Christian so they must be anti-Christian”. Instead of seeing the big picture, they see it as a slight to their certain crazy issues. They literally don’t care if it costs Romney 1% of the vote come November and he ends up losing and Obama gets to appoint 2 more Supreme Court justices. As long as they stand up for their utterly moronic Christian because of his stances on social issues, thats all they care about.

thphilli on August 23, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Hey a$$ did you note where I said he should have bowed out? It does not help that Republicans are piling on though and making sh!t up he didn’t say. Leave that to the Democrats.

The funny thing it is people like you and Joana who jump on anyone who call Romney on gaffes. Remember when people question Romney -it is bad for the party and all that crap.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Nobody in this thread is even responding to what Huckabee has said. Every posts seems to be drenched in vitriol and the leftover prejudice against Huckabee from the ’08 cycle, in which he unjustly (according to some) denied ‘true conservative’ Mitt Romney the nomination.

Plenty of Republican candidates have said stupid things, and have been allowed to run their own race. But they’ve been forgiven and our team has moved on for the good of the cause.
The truth is that Akin was a viable candidate before his misstatement. And that’s all it was – no crime was committed, no one was hurt.

This moment will pass. The conversation will change dramatically once the conventions get underway. If Akin continues to run a deficit in the polls in a few weeks, he will probably do the right thing and step aside. But until then, maybe the best course of action is to excoriate him less and maybe work even harder to get him/ us the win in MO. And that’s what we’re after, right? The win. We’re no trying punish so-cons for embarrassing us, I assume.

ceruleanblue on August 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM

The funny thing it is people like you and Joana who jump on anyone who call Romney on gaffes. Remember when people question Romney -it is bad for the party and all that crap.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:34 PM

When Romney makes a comparable gaffe, I’ll tell him to step down.

Akin has the Democrats telling him to stay in the race. Fabricating polls to convince him staying. They crossvoted for him in the primary – like they did for Santorum. McCaskill spent millions in ads in hopes he’d get the nomination.

Of course, this – that not all gaffes are equally costly – is way too nuanced for someone like you to understand.

joana on August 23, 2012 at 8:38 PM

When Romney makes a comparable gaffe, I’ll tell him to step down.

Akin has the Democrats telling him to stay in the race. Fabricating polls to convince him staying. They crossvoted for him in the primary – like they did for Santorum. McCaskill spent millions in ads in hopes he’d get the nomination.

Of course, this – that not all gaffes are equally costly – is way too nuanced for someone like you to understand.

joana on August 23, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Sorry but in this “economy” election- Romney has made some fine gaffes, and his staff even bigger gaffes. Supporting Romneycare with the steelworker ad anyone?

The fact that you can understand the point does not negate that piling on a Republican candidate with Democratic talking points is idiotic. You know the same thing you accuse people who are critical of Romney of doing.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:41 PM

We’re no trying punish so-cons for embarrassing us, I assume.

ceruleanblue on August 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Anyone who believes that women have the ability to internally end a rape pregnancy should be embarrassed and ejected from the party.

WisCon on August 23, 2012 at 8:42 PM

The funny thing it is people like you and Joana who jump on anyone who call Romney on gaffes. Remember when people question Romney -it is bad for the party and all that crap.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Uh, no. I am fine with calling out Romney for gaffes. More so in the primaries than now, but certainly fine with calling him out for gaffes now. And if he ever said anything as MONUMENTALLY stupid as what Akin did, I would expect EVERYONE in the republican party to attack him. The fact that anyone is defending him at all is pathetic. The fact that its social cons, who are literally a cancer on the republican party and will be its eventual downfall, is beyond appropriate.

thphilli on August 23, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Look, I’m a staunch conservative. But I don’t follow anyone’s “party line”, and I don’t support candidates who are not ready for prime time. Akin is a great disservice to conservatives the country over. HE might well foist ObamaCare on my children…because of, you know, “principles”. Whatever that’s supposed to mean.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 23, 2012 at 7:56 PM

We agree here. I have never supported Akin. I do not support him now. I would not have voted for him because he was endorsed by Huckabee if he supports socialism I would have voted for one of the ones that beat him. Do not live there. But one thing I am sure of he is far better than Clair and he won the primary.

I am about getting back to the Constitution. There is nothing constitutional about changing the rules because someone thinks they are smarter than the voters. The voters get to make the decision as to who runs not some stinking Party Boss.

I feel the only justification of booting someone off the ticket is Criminal. This is no where close to that.

Again cite anyone else booted out for saying something stupid then taking it back the next day.

PUT UP or SHUT UP.

If you can no then this WAS A POLITICAL ASSASSINATION.

Loud enough so all can hear?

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 8:44 PM

I appreciate your sharing this. I actually would have made the same choice. I am pro-life but something like this would make me think otherwise in these circumstances.

I wonder how many people who trumpet that a woman MUST carry a baby to term even if she is raped would be so adament if it actually happened to them.

I hope you have recovered emotionally from this nightmare.

stenwin77 on August 23, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Thank you, stenwin. I didn’t abort it. I had a miscarriage the day after I went to my priest and talked to him about what to do. My priest told me that God would forgive me if I made the choice because it wasn’t a child of God but the work of Satan. We prayed together and I asked God for help. The next day God saved me from having to make that decision. I have spent over 20 years now working at rape crisis centers with young women that find themselves alone asking “why me”. You never forget but you use tragedy and do something good with it. The 3 men have never been caught so who knows how many more young women they have terrorized. But they don’t terrorize me. :-)

speppers69 on August 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM

anybody out there??????????????????? who replaces akin? any answers???????????????????????????????????????????????

tm11999 on August 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Romney has never said anything this dumb.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM

So you going to throw Romney under the bus too?:

However, Dr Willke told The Daily Telegraph that he did meet Mr Romney during a presidential primary campaign stop in the doctor’s home city of Cincinnati, Ohio, in October last year. Local news reports at the time noted that the candidate held “private meetings” during the visit.

sauldalinsky on August 23, 2012 at 8:04 PM

So meeting a quack doctor and hearing what he has to say is exactly the same to you as going before the TV cameras and telling tens of thousands of rape victims that they liked it?

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM

anybody out there? who replaces akin? any answers?

tm11999 on August 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Christopher “Kit” Bond has been suggested, but people like Steveangell would never accept him because he’s the guy who made it illegal to shoot Mormons in Missouri.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 8:49 PM

The fact that its social cons, who are literally a cancer on the republican party and will be its eventual downfall, is beyond appropriate.

thphilli on August 23, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Yes.

This is purely Political.

Just like he just said.

He said were it Romney he should be attacked.

But because Akin is a social con he must resign.

Who gives anyone the right to judge in this way. How does this square with the first Amdendment? He even took it back but the RINOS and Party Bosses hate the first Amendment so much he still must resign because of what he said.

Freedom of Speech. When did that die in America?

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM

but this is why I think you’re seeing a circling of the wagons from social conservatives

By some…

Gohawgs on August 23, 2012 at 8:52 PM

He even took it back but the RINOS and Party Bosses hate the first Amendment so much he still must resign because of what he said.

The First Amendment applies only to Government. It says:

CONGRESS shall make no law…”

For example, the First Amendment precludes the Federal government from censoring your speech. It does not prevent the owners from HotAir.com from banning you for speech that violates its policy.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 8:54 PM

speppers69 on August 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM

A single post from someone who’s been through the flames is worth a hundred pages of braying by ignorant uppity fundies.

God bless and keep you, sister in Christ. Know that even if your assaulters never face justice here, they’ll face a much worse judgement if they don’t beg for His mercy in this life.

MelonCollie on August 23, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 8:49 PM

:)

a capella on August 23, 2012 at 8:58 PM

speppers69 on August 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Bless you.

I get so tired of GOD never being mentioned.

I too have known of so many who were blessed by GOD. Who does answer prayers. My wife saved my daughters life with a prayer when she was a baby. She had stopped breathing almost she was on oxygen my wife said a prayer and all her color came back and she was just fine. We had no need to even take her to the hospital and was off oxygen a few days later. GOD does answer prayers in GOD’s all knowing way. Sometimes the answer is not what we want but it is always the right answer from GOD’s all knowing perspective.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Sorry but in this “economy” election- Romney has made some fine gaffes, and his staff even bigger gaffes. Supporting Romneycare with the steelworker ad anyone?

The fact that you can understand the point does not negate that piling on a Republican candidate with Democratic talking points is idiotic. You know the same thing you accuse people who are critical of Romney of doing.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:41 PM

The fact that you think they are comparable just shows you’re completely incapable of getting it.

As Rush says, socons live inside an eco chamber.

Romney’s gaffe is just that. Nobody remembers it any more. It wasn’t even him. Democrats won’t cut ads with it. They won’t attack other candidates with it. It didn’t make first pages.

Akin is repugnant to millions of voters right now – and no, not only liberals. The idea that the rest of the party could go on without strongly expressing their disagreement with him and labelling him as unfit for office is truly bizarre. We’d be decimated all over the country if the reaction to Akin’s debacle was merely “he just misspoke and apologized, no big deal”. The fact that you simply can’t wrap your head about this only means you live in an insulated world and you can’t understand how much bigger is what Akin did when compared to everything Romney has ever done.

Again, when Romney does something of the same magnitude, he should be thrown under the bus by the party as well. If you can’t appreciate the magnitude of what Akin did, it’s not my problem. The large majority of the GOP, not only party bosses, but pretty much everybody except a fringe of SoCons, can.

joana on August 23, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Shut up, Steve.

Rusty Allen on August 23, 2012 at 9:01 PM

speppers69 on August 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Thank you for sharing your story, and your perspective.

changer1701 on August 23, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Freedom of Speech. When did that die in America?

Stephaniecutter on August 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Telling a rape victim “You know you liked it” is technically covered under Freedom of Speech.

You tell us where “Freedom of Speech” requires groups like the RNC and Crossroads PAC to give millions of dollars to the combination of sociopath and moron who would say such a thing?

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 9:04 PM

For example, the First Amendment precludes the Federal government from censoring your speech. It does not prevent the owners from HotAir.com from banning you for speech that violates its policy.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Show me the law that says it is OK to force him out.

Right there is no such law the law is on Akins side.

Because of that First Amendment.

No such law would ever be legal.

This is an infringement of Todd Akins first amendment rights pure and simple.

What this has to do with HOT AIRs policies is beyond my knowledge. Hot Air is private and can pretty much do as it pleases.

I think HOT AIR does a great job myself. I have no problem with Hot Air.

Steveangell on August 23, 2012 at 9:04 PM

As I said above in the headlines, his web pages seem to dismiss the Rasmussen poll collapse as touting that “Claire can’t break 50 percent!”

Wonder what happens when she does.

Marcus on August 23, 2012 at 9:06 PM

This isn’t about Romney, this isn’t about Aikin, this isn’t about the GOP.

THIS IS ABOUT OUR COUNTRY’S FUTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the good of the country, since this guy is toast, he has to go. Too much is at stake for him to put his own ego ahead of our country’s future.

karenhasfreedom on August 23, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I am so sick of everyone reading more into Akin’s stupid statement that was there. It was medically ignorant, but ascribing motives to it is as ignorant as the original statement. He wasn’t deparaging rape victims. I swear some of you are a bunch of Democrats in training.

melle1228 on August 23, 2012 at 8:04 PM

For me, it’s not what he said, it’s not his ignorance of things medical or female, it’s not any motives he may or may not have. For me, it’s that this guy is so politically unsaavy that, as the whole thing is crumbling under him, he too stupid to know he’s finished, right or wrong, and thinks he still has a snowball’s chance. I don’t know if that’s stupidity, ego, or immaturity, but I don’t want him representing my party.

SailorMark on August 23, 2012 at 9:07 PM

I get so tired of GOD never being mentioned.

I too have known of so many who were blessed by GOD. Who does answer prayers. My wife saved my daughters life with a prayer when she was a baby. She had stopped breathing almost she was on oxygen my wife said a prayer and all her color came back and she was just fine. We had no need to even take her to the hospital and was off oxygen a few days later. GOD does answer prayers in GOD’s all knowing way. Sometimes the answer is not what we want but it is always the right answer from GOD’s all knowing perspective.

Stephaniecutter on August 23, 2012 at 8:58 PM

The opposite of His name never being mentioned is one who spams it over and over again for little reason, cheapening it and depriving it of its power.

This is known as “blasphemy” and He doesn’t like that either.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 9:07 PM

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