Huckabee: Second look at Todd Akin

posted at 4:41 pm on August 23, 2012 by Allahpundit

Akin’s first defensive move after people tried to get him to quit was to frame this as a “conservatives vs. liberal elite media” fight. Since his main “liberal media” tormentor was Sean Hannity, that didn’t work. So then he tried to make it a “grassroots conservatives vs. party bosses” thing. That didn’t work either once the Tea Party Express called on him to quit. Now here comes the “social conservatives vs. RINO moderates” pitch. From the man who endorsed David Dewhurst in Texas…

The Party’s leaders have for reasons that aren’t rational, left him behind on the political battlefield, wounded and bleeding, a casualty of his self-inflicted, but not intentional wound. In a Party that supposedly stands for life, it was tragic to see the carefully orchestrated and systematic attack on a fellow Republican. Not for a moral failure or corruption or a criminal act, but for a misstatement which he contritely and utterly repudiated. I was shocked by GOP leaders and elected officials who rushed so quickly to end the political life of a candidate over a mistaken comment in an interview. This was a serious mistake, but it was blown out of proportion not by the left, but by Akin’s own Republican Party. Is this what the party really thinks of principled pro-life advocates? Do we forgive and forget the verbal gaffes of Republicans who are “conveniently pro-life” for political advantage, but crucify one who truly believes that every life is sacred?

Who ordered this “Code Red” on Akin? There were talking point memos sent from the National Republican Senatorial Committee suggesting language to urge Akin to drop out. Political consultants were ordered to stay away from Akin or lose future business with GOP committees. Operatives were recruited to set up a network of pastors to call Akin to urge him to get out. Money has changed hands to push him off the plank. It is disgraceful. From the spotlights of political offices and media perches, it may appear that the demand for Akin’s head is universal in the party. I assure you it is not. There is a vast, but mostly quiet army of people who have an innate sense of fairness and don’t like to see a fellow political pilgrim bullied. If Todd Akin loses the Senate seat, I will not blame Todd Akin. He made his mistake, but was man enough to admit it and apologize. I’m waiting for the apology from whoever the genius was on the high pedestals of our party who thought it wise to not only shoot our wounded, but run over him with tanks and trucks and then feed his body to the liberal wolves. It wasn’t just Todd Akin that was treated with contempt by the thinly veiled attack on Todd Akin. It was all the people who have faithfully knocked doors, made calls, and made sacrificial contributions to elect Republicans because we thought we were welcome in the party. Todd Akin owned his mistake. Who will step up and admit the effort being made to discredit Akin and apologize for the sleazy way it’s been handled?

There’s more at the link. The timing is no coincidence, I take it: Akin met with a group of social conservative leaders and activists in Tampa last night, presumably to plan some sort of coordinated pushback against the calls for him to get out. According to Tony Perkins, the goal was “to talk to him and encourage him in the stand he’s been taking.” Makes sense that Huckabee, who has huge name recognition and a megaphone at Fox News, would take the lead on it. But he’s not alone:

“Following the pounding of Todd Akin by the GOP kings and lieutenants in the last 36 hours, I’ve come to the conclusion that the real issue is the soul of America,” wrote David Lane, an evangelical activist who’s influential in the Republican Party, in an e-mail to fellow activists Thursday morning.

“The swift knee-jerk reaction to throw Akin, a strong conservative pro-life, pro-family born again Christian under the bus by some in the Republican Party is shining the light on their actual agenda,” Lane continued.

“We haven’t seen anything this vicious since some of the same operatives did this to (Sarah) Palin.”

Perkins also sent out a blast e-mail last night noting that the GOP has stood by moderates in the past and therefore “Singling out Todd suggests a double standard, designed to drive out social conservatives.” Why are heavy hitters like him and Huckabee ready to fight and die on Magic Uterus Hill when there’s overwhelming bipartisan disgust at Akin for what he said? Because, I think, of the phenomenon that Phil Klein identified in his piece at the Examiner this morning. This is the first time since the rise of the tea party that virtually the entire right, including the Tea Party Express, has united against a Republican candidate for saying something fringe-y enough to imperil his chances of winning. An exasperated Jim Geraghty points to Christine O’Donnell, Sharron Angle, and Carl Paladino and writes, “These candidates and their teams always insist that they know better. They always insist that they have some sort of secret understanding of the race, some sort of secret game plan or strategy that will completely change the circumstances. And they always, always, always lose.” (Not surprisingly, Sharron Angle’s campaign manager is fully supportive of Akin staying in.) Klein’s point is that a lot of conservatives have come to feel the same exasperation about winnable seats, especially in an election cycle that represents the last chance to repeal ObamaCare before the program starts.

What makes Huck et al. nervous about that, I think, is that if Akin drops out and his replacement wins the seat, Republicans may conclude that good things can happen for the party if it’s unforgiving of controversial pronouncements by socially conservative candidates. Akin’s not the only man in America with funny ideas about women’s alleged biological rape defenses, after all. Which beliefs are too controversial for a candidate to hold, and will the standard for that shift over time? None of this is meant as a defense of Akin, mind you — I think he should go pronto for his crankery, the upshot of which was to suggest that it’s not really rape if a woman gets pregnant — but this is why I think you’re seeing a circling of the wagons from social conservatives. It’s not so much about Akin as the fact that they’d rather lose this seat and keep the Overton window where it is for future GOP candidates than win by letting it shift, because no one knows exactly where it might shift to.

You’ll be pleased to know, incidentally, that Claire McCaskill thinks that Rasmussen poll showing her up 10 points is awfully fishy and that Akin has a much better chance of beating her than anyone thinks. I guess he’d better stay in the race then, huh? Exit question: Huck et al. keep noting that Akin has apologized repeatedly and therefore should be forgiven. Has he apologized for the actual nuts and bolts of what he said, though? When he talked to Huckabeethe other day, he made it sound like his mistake was simply using the word “legitimate” in the context of rape. (“I said one word in one sentence on one day, and everything changed.”) But his more substantive mistake was passing along quack science about the likelihood of pregnancy during violent sexual assault. Has he apologized for that too? I’m asking earnestly; I might have missed it.

Update: A few people on Twitter have wondered whether the RNC should rescind Huckabee’s invitation to speak at the convention for this. You think? You think Mitt Romney, whose abortion flip-flopping has already made him untrustworthy to social cons, is going to restart a war with Huck 10 weeks out from election day — when all Huck’s really doing is defending the GOP nominee for Senate in Missouri? C’mon.


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It’s fitting that a thumper socialist like Huckabee would all but guarantee that Obamacare is never repealed by convincing a fellow SoCon loon with absolutely no chance of winning to remain in the race.

McCaskill, Daily Kos and Huckabee <3 Akin.

EddieC on August 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

resist me much,

i have not labeled you anything, only your position as pro-choice. you characterized yourself as pro-life in a sort of lawyerish way.

a lot of people try to have it both ways on the issue. that’s b/c the know the pro-life stance is right. :)

try to apply your same logic to anything else. let’s try slavery. I’m personally opppose to slavery (abortion), but who am i to tell somebody else they can’t own slaves (have an abortion).

to me the liberterian view is the pro-life one. nothing else matters if you don’t have your life secured first. :)

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

RNC should say to Huckster… “Akin withdraws or your time slot will be given to the write in candidate.”

monalisa on August 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Monalisa

You don’t understand this Akin guy at all. He’s staying in with or without Huckabee’s support. If Huckabee drops his support, Akin will say party bosses got to Huckabee.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Monalisa

You don’t understand this Akin guy at all. He’s staying in with or without Huckabee’s support. If Huckabee drops his support, Akin will say party bosses got to Huckabee.

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Giving Akin at least some credit, he appears to have the sense not to say the jews got to him.

though it would probably have minimal effect at this point if he did.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

resist me much,

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

You could cut the sexual tension in here with a dull stick.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM

This entire DISASTER was CREATED by Huckabee – Huckabee Facilitated and Encouraged Akin to Run…….AFTER Akin publicly defecated on himself – Huckabee took him aside and Told Him That he had NO CHOICE but to DIG IN and STAY IN THE RACE……Huckabee Told Akin that THAT was “God’s Will”, which Huckabee KNEW because God had PERSONALLY told him so!

The Piper Must Be Paid for this Betrayal of Our Country!!

williamg on August 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM

If there’s even the slimmest of chances that keeping Akin around will alienate enough people from voting for R&R and other downticket Republicans, then he simply has to go.

NoLeftTurn on August 23, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Yep…this is no time for gambling. (And you’re not helping Huckabee.)

I haven’t been on the threads much today, so if everyone has already seen this please forgive me. It’s a little bit of encouragement in the middle of this current mess.

http://www.examiner.com/article/latest-polls-show-u-s-senate-shifting-sharply-for-republican-majority

lynncgb on August 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM

i like talking to pro-choice women. it’s a challenge but they know i’m right. they want to demonize pro-lifers but i don’t make any sudden moves. :)

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:42 PM

“I wake up every morning knowing what I believe” Mike Huckebee

Akin 2012

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Great, does the whole social conservative movement want to go down with this ship?

ninjapirate on August 23, 2012 at 4:55 PM

This is exactly the sort of thing that non-SoCons use (rightfully or wrongly) to make the point that the only thing that SoCons really seem to care is about abortion, to the exclusion of all else.

JFS61 on August 23, 2012 at 11:45 PM

I think he likes you. He’s just having a hard time saying it.

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Barf!

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

As I said, I am not driven to the polls by social issues. Label me however you want. I don’t care.

Resist We Much on August 23, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Remember Huckabee was also willing to pardon dozens of violent felons, many of whom quickly committed more violent crimes including murder after their release – but only on his way out the Governor’s Mansion door in Arkansas, not when he would have had to stand before voters again.

So, we know he’s a sucker for miscreants with a sob story and a conversion claim, and a political loser.

Your mileage will not vary.

Adjoran on August 24, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Akin has the law on his side always has he is now officially in to stay.

Will be interesting to see if all the RINOs that told us to get on board with Mitt will get on board with Akin.

Conservatives hate many of the things Mitt has done far more than any hate what Akin said. But nothing can take back what Mitt actually did. Romney Care being by far the worst. At least Akin did take back what he said the next day. Romney still praises Romney Care as now written. I can not tell you how much that offends me.

Either get on board Akin now or Clair wins it is that simple. He will get a decent percentage of the vote and all he needs is 5% to assure any sore loser that jumps in will lose. The dam Party Bosses just lost us a seat by jumping all over this and trying to undo the will of the people and force him out. Shame on them.

Thank you Heavenly Father for giving Akin the courage to stay in and stop the Party Bosses. Please Lord soften their hearts so they can repent and gain your forgiveness.

Steveangell on August 24, 2012 at 12:05 AM

The problem with Akin is that he expressed the viewpoint that women can’t become pregnant from rape, which is a blatantly false statement. It shows him to be a raving psychotic, completly divorced from reality on this point. Among the many problems here is that people like him make pro-life people look like raving psychotics by association. I assume most pro-life people, such as Malkin and Coulter, know that women can become pregnant from rape. Many still feel that abortion is wrong in the case of rape. Those are rational and defensible viewpoints.

Akin’s problem is that he expressed a completely false concept, and other conservative politicians have stated similar things in the past (Stephen Friend running against Specter in PA in the 80′s for instance). It makes the whole Republican/Conservative/Pro-life movement look like blithering idiots, stupid, incapable of distinguishing between superstition and reality, almost inconceivably backward, having a scientific education equivalent to someone in the 1700′s or perhaps even earlier. It poisons the well. You can’t convince undecided people to become pro-life or vote pro-life by saying things like this. By refusing to step down, Akin is severely damaging the pro-life movement. By supporting Akin after making such a ridiculous statement, Huckabee is severely damaging the pro-life movement.

Akin must go, not because he is pro-life, not because he opposes abortion in the case of rape (although that is a very minority position) but because he thinks that woman can’t become pregnant from rape. This shows that he is unfit to hold office. Next he’ll be thinking the moon is made of green cheese and we should send an expedition there so we can feed the starving people of the world.

talkingpoints on August 24, 2012 at 12:20 AM

The notion of the “greater good” seems hopelessly lost on some people. Akin won’t win whether the “party bosses” (Limbaugh, Levin, Palin, the Tea Party…er, the vast majority of conservatives) support him. His continued candidacy can do nothing but harm. Trying to turn this into a religious crusade isn’t going to help rid us of Obamacare, or abortion for that matter.

Reggie1971 on August 24, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Akin must go, not because he is pro-life, not because he opposes abortion in the case of rape (although that is a very minority position) but because he thinks that woman can’t become pregnant from rape. This shows that he is unfit to hold office. Next he’ll be thinking the moon is made of green cheese and we should send an expedition there so we can feed the starving people of the world.

talkingpoints on August 24, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Repeating this does not make it true.

He perhaps once believed that. I say perhaps be you exharate what he said.

But he most certainaly believes no such thing now.

Now you just hurt all Republican chances by repeating the now lie.

It is not your right to determine if he is fit. The law gives that right to the voters and they say he is fit to run. He has been an idiot on this issue for a very long time this surprised no one that knew him and only the outcry surprised the voters that voted for him and most people in Missouri are probably more outraged that their votes were nearly taken away from them by Party Bosses.

Steveangell on August 24, 2012 at 12:32 AM

… I say perhaps be you exharate what he said. …

Steveangell on August 24, 2012 at 12:32 AM

I say perhaps be you a complete loon what he said.

M240H on August 24, 2012 at 12:38 AM

What should we expect? Akin is a Baptist and a dues paying member of what HL Mencken called the Booboisie. Of course he will find support among his fellows. Having said that, he seems like a fine enough fellow, and certainly qualified to sit in the Senate. Will anyone here argue that Claire McCaskill is more qualified?

claudius on August 24, 2012 at 12:56 AM

I am personally appalled at the Republican “outrage” at Akin. Ann Coulter is virtually apopleptic. Obviously it is a serious gaffe but not nearly as serious as Biden”s “slavery” comment–of course,yes I know, the MSM is on Biden’s side.

Also I realize, as a conservative, that Romney, if elected, will double cross all of us the same as John Roberts has done. I support Romney because 1 the two other viable Republican candidates (Gingrich and Santorum) would have led to Democratic landslides of such proportions that both houses of congress would be safely in their hands along with the presidency. 2. A wishy-washy RINO who’s with us 60% of the time is better than a Marxist is with us 0 % of the time.

But what is Romney doing calling for Akin to quit publicly? These sound bytes can easily be turned around to point to Republican “disloyalty” and, obviously, to kill even the miniscule chance Akin had of winning.Has anybody heard of conference calls, private meetings, united fronts? No, instead we have an internecine food fight.

MaiDee on August 24, 2012 at 12:59 AM

… I say perhaps be you exharate what he said. …

Steveangell on August 24, 2012 at 12:32 AM

I say perhaps be you a complete loon what he said.

M240H on August 24, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Lool :)… He might be off his meds, it happens often with this one..

jimver on August 24, 2012 at 1:12 AM

But what is Romney doing calling for Akin to quit publicly? These sound bytes can easily be turned around to point to Republican “disloyalty” and, obviously, to kill even the miniscule chance Akin had of winning.Has anybody heard of conference calls, private meetings, united fronts? No, instead we have an internecine food fight.

MaiDee on August 24, 2012 at 12:59 AM

United front for a stupid,ignorant d-bag???? Why??? To what purpose? I say Romney should run away from stupid and dissociate himself from it as clearly, loudly and unequivocal as he can…

jimver on August 24, 2012 at 1:18 AM

MaiDee on August 24, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Ann Coulter is not getting near the attention she thinks she deserves.

claudius on August 24, 2012 at 1:20 AM

jimver-I am inclined to agree with you on “stupid, ignorant d-bag”. That having been said we need effective damage control. The English have an expression of being “too clever by half” which means “too smart for your own good”. Like it or not the Democrats are the damage control experts-they not only got Clinton out of abuse of power and oral sex in the White House and, by presenting a united front even INCREASED HIS POPULARITY. Ted Kennedy left a girl to suffocate in a sunken car and was rewarded not only with numerous re-elections but now he has poured filth into the hallowed grounds of Arlington by having his filthy, murdering body buried there. These were actual DEEDS not WORDS.

It is one thing to say we’re “better than the opposition” but you have to remember we’re now dealing with dumbed down voters who couldn’t pinpoint Washington DC on a map. To these voters, a lack of support for Akin looks “chaotic” to them. Better stick with “tried and true” than for “CHAOS”.

If Republicans had rallied around Akin, parsed his comments (he really didn’t mean what he said, or he said something “taken out of context” etc. etc. In my opinion, the story would be over now-and Akin would have fallen behind by a few points but with an excellent chance to rebound. Now the state of Missouri is lost not only for Akin but Romney as well and the sound bytes will be used further in the campaign. CAN YOU TRUST A CANDIDATE WHO TURNED ON HIS ON PARTY MEMBER NOT TO TURN ON THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR HIM???!!!”

MaiDee on August 24, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Looks like we’re going to look back on this week as the Week of Hysteria.

The split between RINOs and social conservatives is real all right, but Akin is not in the middle of it. Lots of social conservatives are not exactly lining up with Akin, even though he’s right about the fact that killing the product of rape is not a moral solution. The problem, of course, is that there is no “solution” to rape. There’s only picking up afterward and living with the consequences.

But the split is still evident from the reaction to what Akin said. I’ve never seen so many pile on and put extra words in Akin’s mouth — as if the original words weren’t bad enough — that essentially amount to accusing him of believing that pregnancy from rape is not just rare but impossible, and that women always lie about rape, and so on.

I think they say this because they have a low opinion of social conservatives, and suspect he really thinks all those things.

For all that, Akin, if elected, is less likely to stab you in the back than a whole lot of RINO politicians. Romney, on the other hand, does not seem all that trustworthy. The only way I trust Romney to stick to the conservative promises he made is if we give him a solidly conservative Congress so he has no choice.

There Goes The Neighborhood on August 24, 2012 at 1:54 AM

Case(s) in point on the rift between RINOs and “socons”:

Get him out and blame it on his horrible comb-over if that’ll make the socialcons feel better.

blue13326 on August 23, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Great, does the whole social conservative movement want to go down with this ship?

ninjapirate on August 23, 2012 at 4:55 PM

“Socail” conservatives are no better than their lib counterparts. They want guvmint to push their brand of morality.

Animal60 on August 23, 2012 at 4:58 PM

BTW, I’ve been saying for more than a couple years now that the 2008 abortion platform changes to no rape exception would come back to haunt the GOP. I never imagined it would blow up like this though.

Seriously, this is an existential threat to social conservatives. We’re talking about no recovery ever. These people have gotten greedy with their “purity” and will pay everything for it.

ninjapirate on August 23, 2012 at 4:58 PM

I’m hoping these are the first shots in a battle that ends with social con power in the GOP greatly diminished.

Mark1971 on August 23, 2012 at 5:04 PM

You can just feel the love.

Although it’s hardly an absolute rift:

“Socail” conservatives are no better than their lib counterparts. They want guvmint to push their brand of morality.

Animal60 on August 23, 2012 at 4:58 PM

That’s not true whatsoever… I hate how stupid professional social conservatives have gotten by digging themselves into a whole on this abortion and rape issue but our Constitution is only adequate for a socially conservative republic. We will find that out soon enough.

ninjapirate on August 23, 2012 at 5:00 PM

All this on the first page of comments. There are some who really seem to loathe “socons.” Of course, if they ever purged their party of them like they hope, they’ll go back to the halcyon days of yesteryear when Republicans only won about 25% – 33% of either House of Congress, and maybe every third president, who then proceeds to give the Democrats 90% of what they want anyway so he can exert at least some influence on keeping down the spending.

In politics, you really need to be able to recognize your allies.

There Goes The Neighborhood on August 24, 2012 at 2:13 AM

In 1980 Reagan attracted and invited the Christian Right into the tent. It brought victory, but at what cost? These same Christian Right folks have continued to co-opt Conservatism until we Conservatives cannot run away from them. Huckabee and Akin and the ilk are merely a symptom of this disease.

NOMOBO on August 23, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Huckabee is not really a typical social conservative. Economically, he’s more of a populist in the mold of William Jennings Bryan. Which is why I had no intention of voting for him in 2008.

Although, after watching John McCain stumble his way into the ditch in 2008, and Mitt Romney reinvent himself as a moderate in 2011 after reinventing himself as a conservative in 2007 after running as a liberal for his entire political career, Huckabee doesn’t look quite so bad by comparison.

There Goes The Neighborhood on August 24, 2012 at 2:25 AM

huckabee is worse b/c he is was super liberal while in Arkansas, romney’s always going to have the Mass. excuse.

Dr. Tesla on August 24, 2012 at 2:33 AM

… I say perhaps be you exharate what he said. …

Steveangell on August 24, 2012 at 12:32 AM

I say perhaps be you a complete loon what he said.

M240H on August 24, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Lool :)… He might be off his meds, it happens often with this one..

jimver on August 24, 2012 at 1:12 AM

When the Death Star comes on line next week and begins firing on its preassigned targets, I predict his mental health will deteriorate even more rapidly.

.

PS: “exharate”? WTF?

Alberta_Patriot on August 24, 2012 at 2:36 AM

If Republicans had rallied around Akin, parsed his comments (he really didn’t mean what he said, or he said something “taken out of context” etc. etc. In my opinion, the story would be over now-and Akin would have fallen behind by a few points but with an excellent chance to rebound. Now the state of Missouri is lost not only for Akin but Romney as well and the sound bytes will be used further in the campaign. CAN YOU TRUST A CANDIDATE WHO TURNED ON HIS ON PARTY MEMBER NOT TO TURN ON THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR HIM???!!!”

MaiDee on August 24, 2012 at 1:47 AM

i really hope you are not seriously comparing Clinton to Akin….Clinton was a very popular president genuinely liked by the media and by many on the opposite side, and loved if not adored by his own party, so damage control by Dems in that case was the mot natural and sensible thing to do….akin is neither…a popular president he is not :)’ and his views are really fringe… on top of it all he proved that the depths of his stupidity are unfathomable…trying damage control in the case of someone like Akin’s is political suicide in an era of unprecedented polarization of the electorate such as ours…besides it is a known fact that you can’t fix stupid, sooner or later he’d have done it again and embarrass the whole party…your argument seems to be hinging more on a hope, that he might win or something (i think this is delusional though) but you conveniently leave out the scenario in which Romney failing to dissociate himself from and continuing to show support for a d-bag like akin would probably cause him to lose not a state, but the elections..and btw, if Romney loses, MO, you have akin to thank for….personally I don’t think romney will llose Mo..just because smart people refuse to vote for someone with akin’s intellect (or lack of it thereof), doesn’t mean they won’t pull the lever for Romney…I can’t imagine a single sensible person with a brain who thinks that Romney turning his back to a blithering idiot is problematic on any level…and btw, who exactly blamed obama or pelodi or their party for putting pressure on weiner to step down, or on that other bizarro, sac face Eric Massa….

jimver on August 24, 2012 at 2:37 AM

When the Death Star comes on line next week and begins firing on its preassigned targets, I predict his mental health will deteriorate even more rapidly.

Do you think it’s possible? :)…

PS: “exharate”? WTF?

Alberta_Patriot on August 24, 2012 at 2:36 AM

i suspect it is his unique way of saying ‘exaggerate’, bless his heart :)…

jimver on August 24, 2012 at 2:46 AM

all the pundits and policians breathing hellfire on Akin didn’t work, and those pointing out huckabee endorsed him probably helped to get Huckabee all jacked up as well, even though he’s primarily doing it for his ratings that are prpobably in the gutter.

THe politicians should have ignored it unless asked about it and then they could have criticized the remark but then say something about the Democrat woman, and then work behind closed doors to get him off the ballot.

i think a lot of pundits out there were looking to be the next Christine O’Donnel -stopper super pundit with their caustic attacks on Akin and that only works out if the politician drops out. Oops.

Dr. Tesla on August 24, 2012 at 2:55 AM

Akin is going to lose big time and hurt all Republicans running in Missouri.

HuckChuck is – as many note – not really any kind of a conservative: he’s a Fundamentalist who’s just fine with big government and wants to use the power of the federal government to enforce his social agenda. He could care less about removing Obama and about stopping the Democrats from running the senate – all he cares about are social issues.

His support for Akin may be sincere – they’re both nutty as a fruitcake – but it’s also all about HuckChuck raising his own profile and being a macher in the South.

This guy is a fat Elmer Gantry.

CatoRenasci on August 24, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Internecine warfare on the horizon.

Team Obama is laughing their heads off at our stupidity.

technopeasant on August 23, 2012 at 5:00 PM

On the horizon?
9 pages of comments that are all over the place, grabbing Palin and Christie into the net, including links to the SoCon manifesto for a 3rd party, and pitting poster against poster?
Try right here right now……

Yeah Team Obama with their $1.5 million spent in Missouri was well spent as 39% of the people there describe themselves as evangelicals who’s main tenant is ‘forgiveness when asked’ – seems that’s the 39% Akin is holding onto and that’s it vs. Claire-Bear’s 49/49 approval/disapproval rates. She wins by 10% without having to lift a finger.

What were those 2 other republicans thinking of doing a 3 ways split with him? Couldn’t one of them have dropped out so it was a 2 person race? Sure, Monday morning quarter backing and all but come on. Didn’t anyone see the writing on the wall at the other 2 campaigns?

As for Romney not giving Huckster a speaking gig? What a nightmare scenario. 39% are evangelicals in a state he needs and Huckster is pulling the puppet strings. He’ll ask for a prime time slot and he’ll get it. Either that or they won’t cover Ann Romney’s speech but they’ll be all over Huckster’s like white on rice for a mere whiff of Akin.

Huckster owns that convention now as long as Akin stays in so that’s 2 prideful men you’ve got to move out of the way and that ain’t happening leaving Romney a “can you comment” after thought to the news media.

athenadelphi on August 24, 2012 at 7:31 AM

It seems to me there are basically two kinds of “social conservatives”.

The first kind live a ‘socially conservative’ lifestyle, are deeply religious, would encourage both in others by example and teaching, and want to prevent the government from using its power and the law to discourage traditional family values, religion, and respect for life. But, they recognize that not everyone agrees with them and that just as it’s not for the government to force a ‘liberal’ life style on them, it’s not the government’s role to force their views on others. Pro-life, they accept there will be some situations where some people will make a difficult moral choice to have an abortion in which the state should not prohibit it. They favor traditional marriage and think the state shouldn’t sanction same sex unions, but they don’t want to have a war on homosexuals.

The second kind are like HuckChuck and Akin: they want to use the government to legally mandate their morality as the standard and criminally punish those who transgress.

The first kind of social conservative belongs in the Republican Party and is welcome. The second kind is essentially an authoritarian of the right, who has no business in a party dedicated to liberty.

CatoRenasci on August 24, 2012 at 7:36 AM

The first kind of social conservative belongs in the Republican Party and is welcome. The second kind is essentially an authoritarian of the right, who has no business in a party dedicated to liberty.

CatoRenasci on August 24, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Excellent comment.

bluegill on August 24, 2012 at 8:25 AM

So, Mike Huckabee gets his revenge…against Romney and against millions of innocent Americans who will suffer and die because of Obamacare. He’s sold the future of this country down the tubes because of a nitwit narcisist who really believes HE is the only person to carry the banner of saving children.

I was outraged over the Chick Fil A attacks and the very real gun attacks on Perkin’s group. I hope I would be able to sift through the anger against these people and do so again, but I’m convinced that Huckabee doesn’t want Romney as President and he’ll do anything in his power to defeat him. I’m also convinced that Todd Akin is a miserable, self-righteous, liar of a scumbag who wants Barack Obama and Harry Reid back in control. Perhaps they’re both under the delusion that if they help completely destroy this country, they can rebuild it in THEIR image. Religion has nothing to do with it. I’m a Christian and as such, I have a very big problem with defending a man who uses Judas’s silver (the Dems) to buy his nomination.

Huckabee’s hate for Romney is apparently so massive, he simply wants him to lose. Huck, I will never watch your show again and will change the station if you appear on any other show.

Romney wasn’t my first choice, but he’s the nominee and I’m liking him more as the campaign progresses. Picking Ryan gives me a lot of comfort about his judgment of men for the mission–which is a huge part of the Presidency. I love his wife! Huckabee’s defense of a man whose only purpose is self-promotion because every other Republican in that race is pro-life can only be interpreted as an effort to keep the socialists in control and preserve Obamacare.

BTW, anyone seen the ridiculous commercial Huck does about Obamacare? The one in which he lies outright about the importance of signing his petition to force the Senate to vote on the repeal right now? THIS is the extend of Huck’s understanding of the Congress and the reality on the ground? He’s a fricking idiot.

Portia46 on August 24, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Huckabee’s shenanigans in 2008 helped inflict John McCain on us as our candidate…I no longer pay attention to what he’s saying…

golfer1 on August 24, 2012 at 9:08 AM

athenadelphi on August 24, 2012 at 7:31 AM

You’ve nailed it exactly. My disgust of Huck and Akin grows exponentially with every word they speak. Akin said women have a magic power to avoid preganacy when they’re “legitimately” raped and the fool is still saying he said “one” word. The truth is, he’s said a whole lot of stupid and foolish things. And Huck think’s he’s got another Chick Fil A moment and he’s got a real big ego that needs feeding.

Neither care a whit about America and I’m beginning to think about abortion, since they are now working to elect a man who believes killing live-born babies is OK.

Richard Nixon had the grace and the conscience to resign his Presidency because at the bottom of HIS modus operendi was a sincere love for this country and respect for the Presidency.

So Huck and Akin? The Lord asks us what good does it do a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul? But for ratings and transitory attention?

Portia46 on August 24, 2012 at 9:19 AM

Huckabee & Akin and those that defend them shoud be ready to receive the blame cloak when the seat is lost and other GOP candidates suffer the backlash of being inundated with accusations that Republicans are all Bible thumping neanderthals.

katiejane on August 24, 2012 at 10:03 AM

He he he!

The Social Conservative … Big Government Huckster!

LOLOL!

Tea Party People, next time we need to reject such kind of politicians!

TheAlamos on August 24, 2012 at 11:17 AM

“I wake up every morning knowing what I believe” Mike Huckebee

Akin 2012

Dr. Tesla on August 23, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Yes – and what he believes is:

1. I, Mike Huckabee should have CONSIDERABLY more power – in every part of my body – over the ENTIRE populace to FORCE Them to Do My Will – since “My Will” and “God’s Will” are the same, ad

2. I should be able to EXACT REVENGE on EVERYONE who DOES NOT WORSHIP EACH PART of my flaccid, decaying body!

williamg on August 24, 2012 at 11:24 AM

but this is why I think you’re seeing a circling of the wagons from social conservatives. It’s not so much about Akin as the fact that they’d rather lose this seat and keep the Overton window where it is for future GOP candidates than win by letting it shift, because no one knows exactly where it might shift to.

I agreee. It goes back to primaries where the most popular tactic is to flood the field to split the conservative vote. It worked for McCain. The tactic takes bucks but who’s counting

The problem is the Club has shown they would rather have a DEM win than a GOP troublemaker. Their prime directive is to preserve the Club

Has he apologized for that too? I’m asking earnestly; I might have missed it.

No he has not to the level required for the event. He has been parsing like a defense lawyer. The bad science was recoverable to some extent. His first answers to Hannity are not so recoverable, because he failed to undo the image he created for himself – of indifference to the hurt he caused

His problem: he assumed the offended would parse the situation like he does. Hot buttons are different. It wasnt his hot button so he missed

You shut up and buy the breast cancer pink stuff. It shows you care, or rather, it shows you do not care if you do not fly the pink flag.

IMHO he could have turned it around but he did not catch on, because he was too busy reacting to his enemies.

Clinton pulled it off

COnservatives are correct about the Club. If they think they go away with it on this one, they will expand the tactic

entagor on August 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM

The problem with Akin is that he expressed the viewpoint that women can’t become pregnant from rape, which is a blatantly false statement. It shows him to be a raving psychotic, completly divorced from reality on this point.

talkingpoints on August 24, 2012 at 12:20 AM

I think we perhaps have a problem in the definition of terms here. To incorrectly believe something which is not true does not make one a “raving psychotic, completely divorced from reality”. It makes one misinformed and ignorant of the facts. There is just the slightest difference between the two.

There are two possibilities. Either, at the time of his statement, Akin truly believed that a woman’s body has mechanisms in place to prevent conception after rape or he misspoke rather badly. If the former, he certainly has received the correct information now and no longer believes that. If the latter, he never believed it in the first place and simply made a verbal gaffe.

Regardless, why should either completely and totally disqualify him? The outrageous outrage has been so strong as to make it seem folks want him banned from electoral politics for the rest of his life, plus banning the next three generations of his family. I just think the level of response has not fit the seriousness of the issue.

Shump on August 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM

If Republicans had rallied around Akin, parsed his comments (he really didn’t mean what he said, or he said something “taken out of context” etc. etc. In my opinion, the story would be over now-and Akin would have fallen behind by a few points but with an excellent chance to rebound. Now the state of Missouri is lost not only for Akin but Romney as well and the sound bytes will be used further in the campaign. CAN YOU TRUST A CANDIDATE WHO TURNED ON HIS ON PARTY MEMBER NOT TO TURN ON THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR HIM???!!!”

MaiDee on August 24, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Republicans KNEW what would happen and they were absolutely right. Even with every faction of the Party except for the Romney-hating Huckabee condemning this slimeball, the Democrats and the news media are still hanging it around Romney’s neck. Even with this mass repudiation, the Democrats are designing their convention around Todd Akin and the War on Women.

I knew the minute this was reported that it was a mistake of major proportions because that’s just how the leftist media and thug Chicago works. And this guy is not worth defending. On a personal level he’s stubbornly arrogant and delusional and embarrasingly uneducated. He reminds me of the Lyndon LaRuesh zombies.

Just because I share a few opinions with someone doesn’t mean I share all of them and even if I share all of them, I wouldn’t support a person who was a crass egomaniac. I don’t believe destroying America for the Jim and Tammy Fae Bakker wing of the Republican Party is moral or smart.

Portia46 on August 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM

so strong as to make it seem folks want him banned from electoral politics for the rest of his life, plus banning the next three generations of his family. I just think the level of response has not fit the seriousness of the issue.

Shump on August 24, 2012 at 12:57

Please see my previous post. He’s a confirmed idiot, and while I can’t speak for anyone but me, I’m learning to despise Congressman I Got Chosen by God and It’s All So Unfair Akin because he’s a selfish meglomaniac who wants Obama to win and Obamacare to stand. A non-narcisist would have recognized that the Obama machine would use his stupidity and ignorance (how in the heck would ANY reasonable person buy into a woman can’t get pregnant from rape? That’s just so illogically stupid, it’s breathtaking.)

Someone ought to ask this defender of the “Overton” window (oh, ya, right—that window’s gonna move big time when communism becomes the middle and that’s what this jerk has guaranteed) how “fair” it was for Jesus to be crusified? He needs to also remember that Mohammed said HE was God’s messenger to.

Portia46 on August 24, 2012 at 1:11 PM

at 1:11 PM, I posted “…how “fair” it was for Jesus to be crusified?” It really was a typo…and I confess to not doing a preview. It’s of course a “c” not an “s”

Portia46 on August 24, 2012 at 1:16 PM

It seems to me there are basically two kinds of “social conservatives”.

The first kind live a ‘socially conservative’ lifestyle, are deeply religious, would encourage both in others by example and teaching, and want to prevent the government from using its power and the law to discourage traditional family values, religion, and respect for life. But, they recognize that not everyone agrees with them and that just as it’s not for the government to force a ‘liberal’ life style on them, it’s not the government’s role to force their views on others. Pro-life, they accept there will be some situations where some people will make a difficult moral choice to have an abortion in which the state should not prohibit it. They favor traditional marriage and think the state shouldn’t sanction same sex unions, but they don’t want to have a war on homosexuals.

The second kind are like HuckChuck and Akin: they want to use the government to legally mandate their morality as the standard and criminally punish those who transgress.

The first kind of social conservative belongs in the Republican Party and is welcome. The second kind is essentially an authoritarian of the right, who has no business in a party dedicated to liberty.

CatoRenasci on August 24, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Interesting that you paint in such black-and-white terms that there is no room for disagreement. While I generally agree with your assessment of the two types of social conservatives, I don’t think you can discount anyone who doesn’t automatically accept that “there will be some situations where some people will make a difficult moral choice to have an abortion in which the state should not prohibit it.” Frankly, I don’t see how anyone can have that position, since there is no situation in which the baby in the womb is anything other than an innocent, blameless victim. Still, I recognize that there are others who disagree with me and am willing to have them in the Republican Party with me.

To have a differing view of abortion in cases of rape is not to put someone in the Huckabee camp of wanting to legislate your religion. Protecting the basic right to life is a basic and legitimate function of government. There is a big difference between believing government should stop abortion and believing that we should outlaw certain types of sex acts in the bedroom between consenting adults.

I am not in favor of “right wing social engineering,” to quote our good friend Newt, but there are times when governmental involvement is legitimate, and I happen to think protecting the unborn is one of them. I don’t think that should mean that I don’t belong in the Republican Party. Do you?

Shump on August 24, 2012 at 1:45 PM

I just love how people on here call social conservatives “loon” Thought this was left for the left to do. Thanks a lot for you crapp maybe you should joint ht eDemocratic aparty that is for abortion gay marriage and so much more

Bullhead on August 24, 2012 at 3:16 PM

I have been aware for some time that many people are uncomfortable dealing with opinions that differ from their own. That’s why many people only surround themselves with like-thinking people so they can spend their time agreeing with each other how bad the other side is.

I have also become aware that some go from “Your opinion on that is wrong” to “You are wrong.” Some go so far as to “destroy” someone with whom they differ.

In the case of a well-known politician, any criticism is regarded as an attack, and any attack is met with assured destruction. He, the politician I am thinking of, can never be wrong and his opponents can never be right. If you think otherwise, just check in with DWS and she will set you straight.

So, this guy Akin misspoke. He made an error. I don’t agree with him. I think he is mistaken. He apologized. I don’t understand why we should banish him to Elba or to Devil’s Island because of this one thing. He didn’t vote for live birth abortion that has harmed people (yes, a fetus is a life, and a fetus is a human life). He didn’t harm anyone except intellectually saying something goofy.

My grandmother once asked me if an airplane could fly high enough to poke a hole in the sky? I did not shun her and try to skin her alive for her ignorance.

We’re getting close to having thought crimes and thought police. Free speech means you have the freedom to say wacky things, distasteful things. You can burn the US flag and it is free speech. You can lie to get elected and it is free speech. There are consequences. There is a price to pay. It’s free to say what you want, but you may have to pay for it after one way or another.

Let the voters decide. Give us a break.

So many panties, so much bunching. Get an iron or send out for room service to press them for you.

billrowe on August 24, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Don’t much care that Akin’s a “principled pro-life conservative.”

Only 100 people get to be Senator. Politicians use words as their stock in trade. Anybody who speaks like that, regardless of their “heart,” is an idiot, and doesn’t deserve to be Senator.

Neither does McCaskill – so, let’s find somebody who would do the job proud. And, fast!!

Pablo Snooze on August 24, 2012 at 5:36 PM

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