Which candidate is preferred by small business? Survey says…

posted at 7:21 pm on August 22, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

If there’s one thing that Barack Obama and Mitt Romney can most certainly agree upon, it’s that small businesses are a fundamental building block of our nation’s economy. As both candidates are constantly intoning, the vast majority of businesses in the United States are businesses with fewer than 500 workers, and these are the major drivers of our economy — creating jobs, creating wealth, and leading the way in innovation and entrepreneurship. Both candidates, however, also claim to possess the proper prescriptions for helping small businesses to succeed and grow; so, according to the people actually running these businesses, who’s policies would actually help them out the most? WaPo reports:

Mitt Romney, and it’s not even close, according to a new poll.

Sixty-one percent of small business owners plan to vote for the Republican challenger, more than double the 26 percent who say they will vote for President Obama, shows a survey released Tuesday by Manta. The president’s numbers have fallen six points since May, while Mitt Romney has picked up four points with business owners. In the latest national polls, the candidates are virtually deadlocked.

Obama still has time to make up ground on Main Street, but he will need a solid performance next month in Charlotte. Forty percent of respondents said their vote could swing based on the small business issues — namely taxes, healthcare and regulations — discussed at the conventions, while one in four said they’re still waiting to see what types of initiatives the candidates outline between now and November.

Huh. I guess small business owners actually don’t care for deluges of new financial, environmental, etc. red-tape regulations, or for higher taxes (neither through hiking taxes on people making more than 250k a year, nor through the Pandora’s box of costly surprises that ObamaCare is steadily shaping up to be). That’s so weird.

This is precisely why I get so perturbed whenever I hear President Obama and his surrogates accusing Romney & company of wanting to create a more “top-down” economy. No, Mr. President — that’s what you’re doing with your steady rate of government expansion. Small businesses are the parties that have a particularly vested interest in growing the economy from the “middle out,” as you say, yet strangely enough, they don’t seem to care for you much. Just sayin.’


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And Obama DID build that derision!

thatsafactjack on August 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Sixty-one percent of small business owners plan to vote for the Republican challenger..

..Them being racist and all.

Liam on August 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Every time I see a poll like that I just wonder who are these 26% and why did anyone loan somebody that thick the investment capital to start any sort of business?

Or are these business owners of the sort that work out of the back of a van in an alley?

Gingotts on August 22, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Who the hell are these 26% business owners?

Oh, wait, they are black, right?

ladyingray on August 22, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Sixty-one percent of small business owners plan to vote for the Republican challenger..

…are the other thirty-nine percent drug dealers?

KOOLAID2 on August 22, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Yeah, so when you hear O’Bonehead droning on about all the wonderful joys he has bestowed upon small business owners, you just have to wonder why they are so deluded and hateful?

Oh, now…I think you know!

Jaibones on August 22, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Don’t you like how every bad indicator for Barry is couched with the “The president still has time” line, as if the writer is pleading to not get slammed in vitriol by the prog readers.

budfox on August 22, 2012 at 7:31 PM

For my money, Erika Johnsen is one of the best political writers of our age. Paul Gigot is asleep at the wheel.

This is precisely why I get so perturbed whenever I hear President Obama and his surrogates accusing Romney & company of wanting to create a more “top-down” economy. No, Mr. President — that’s what you’re doing with your steady rate of government expansion. Small businesses are the parties that have a particularly vested interest in growing the economy from the “middle out,” as you say, yet strangely enough, they don’t seem to care for you much. Just sayin.’

joana on August 22, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Obama still has time to make up ground on Main Street

The WaPo and their ilk are doing the best to make that happen.

They just don’t have the business sense to know how.

cozmo on August 22, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Who the hell are these 26% business owners?

Oh, wait, they are black, right?

ladyingray on August 22, 2012 at 7:28 PM

That plus a lot of Solyndra-type businesses that survive on the government dole.

Bitter Clinger on August 22, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Sixty-one percent of small business owners plan to vote for the Republican challenger, more than double the 26 percent who say they will vote for President Obama

…13% are not accounted for?…were they dogs?…were they eaten?

KOOLAID2 on August 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM

…13% are not accounted for?…were they dogs?…were they eaten?

KOOLAID2 on August 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Afraid to answer. As were part of the pro-0bama 26% I imagine.

cozmo on August 22, 2012 at 7:35 PM

…13% are not accounted for?…were they dogs?…were they eaten?

KOOLAID2 on August 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Probably undecideds and a few Gary Johnson-backers.

Bitter Clinger on August 22, 2012 at 7:35 PM

If there’s one thing that Barack Obama and Mitt Romney can most certainly agree upon, it’s that small businesses are a fundamental building block of our nation’s economy.

I don’t know about that. Obama plays the lip service, but I suspect he’s lying. Because that’s what he does. Except when he let’s something slip like “you didn’t built that, somebody else made that happen”

forest on August 22, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Obama still has time to make up ground on Main Street

Really? With ObamaCare on the books? With wanting to raise taxes on the rich (over $250k)?

Really?

WaPo, still carrying water for their Obamassiah.

GarandFan on August 22, 2012 at 7:36 PM

My comment from earlier: Ryan and Romney want to foster an economy from the “top down,” while Obama wants to grow the economy from the “middle out”? What does that mean?

That’s baloney. The economy starts from the bottom up, from the entrepreneurs at the ground level that show individual initiative and build things. Of course, that’s not what O believes. Imagine the “middle” is big fat govt; get a bigger and fatter middle, from the middle out, that’s how O sees it.

anotherJoe on August 22, 2012 at 7:39 PM

When I saw Erika wrote this I knew it was a positive poll for Romney. Allah can’t come to terms with any poll that favors Romney.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Sixty-one percent of small business owners plan to vote for the Republican challenger, more than double the 26 percent who say they will vote for President Obama, shows a survey released Tuesday by Manta. The president’s numbers have fallen six points since May, while Mitt Romney has picked up four points with business owners. In the latest national polls, the candidates are virtually deadlocked

.

It was the “you didn’t build it comment.” They were already on the fence over the increased costs of Obamacare but when the smug rat-eared bastard stood on that stage in Roanoke and told them that they didn’t make their own success they ordered their Romney signs.

Happy Nomad on August 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Who the hell are these 26% business owners?

Oh, wait, they are black, right?

ladyingray on August 22, 2012 at 7:28 PM

But still! It make no sense to vote against your own interest. And it’s not a Black thing either. If the democrat nominee is the Grand Dragon of the KKK, the Dragon would get 96% of the black vote. In fact, blacks are the only group that did not vote for Obama because he is black. They think they did, but never stop to think that their vote would have been the same, no matter what color/

Alabama Infidel on August 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Hey, if you’re unemployed…be happy! You’re helping to “save the environment”…or something.

newtopia on August 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Huh. I guess small business owners actually don’t care for deluges of new financial, environmental, etc. red-tape regulations, or for higher taxes (neither through hiking taxes on people making more than 250k a year, nor through the Pandora’s box of costly surprises that ObamaCare is steadily shaping up to be). That’s so weird.

It’s not as weird as you think. In that 26% who plan to vote for Obama are a substantial number of small businesses whose major revenues come from the federal, state, and local governments. And, yes, there are a good percentage of them that are black/minority owned. So, I’m not to surprised that there’d be a large portion of the small business population who have a dog in the Obama hunt.

TXUS on August 22, 2012 at 7:43 PM

There simply isn’t time enough in eternity to repudiate “You didn’t build that!”. May it cast it’s long shadow over everything this administration says and does.

JimK on August 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I am stunned!
From my neck of the woods-
My sm biz clients have been pretty vocal lately to me and are quite pi$$ed as they are starting to feel the Obamacare laws go into effect.

bazil9 on August 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

newtopia on August 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Yep, Soylent green and fertilizer if 0bama gets reelected.

cozmo on August 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

JimK on August 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

What’s good for Todd Akin is good for 0bama.

cozmo on August 22, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Who the hell are these 26% business owners?

Oh, wait, they are black, right?

ladyingray on August 22, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Yep, with blacks, race come before everything else. Like I have said before, Obama can order Atlanta, Detroit and New Orleans nuked and he would still get 90% of the black vote.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM

TXUS on August 22, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Good points TX.

bazil9 on August 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM

So I guess that 40% who are open to changing their mind based on the Democrats policy agenda in Charlotte will be voting for Mr. Romney since the DNC agenda is now all about the war on women.

obsessedinga on August 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Forty percent of respondents said their vote could swing based on the small business issues — namely taxes, healthcare and regulations — discussed at the conventions

I don’t think they need to bother to tune into the DNC. Apparently it’ll be all rape and abortion, all the time.

changer1701 on August 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Obama still has time to make up ground on Main Street, but he will need a solid performance next month in Charlotte. Forty percent of respondents said their vote could swing based on the small business issues — namely taxes, healthcare and regulations — discussed at the conventions, while one in four said they’re still waiting to see what types of initiatives the candidates outline between now and November.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAaaaaa!

NY Conservative on August 22, 2012 at 7:49 PM

the vast majority of businesses in the United States are businesses with fewer than 500 workers, and these are the major drivers of our economy

Yes, unfortunately those are the drivers of growth in a service-oriented economy with lower wages. Only some of those companies actually drive meaningful innovation.
But you’re also repeating a major misconception:
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10861212/the-myth-of-small-business-job-creation.html

That’s baloney. The economy starts from the bottom up, from the entrepreneurs at the ground level that show individual initiative and build things. Of course, that’s not what O believes. Imagine the “middle” is big fat govt; get a bigger and fatter middle, from the middle out, that’s how O sees it.

anotherJoe on August 22, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Of course that’s what Obama believes- otherwise the great entrepreneurs like Bill Gates, Larry Page and Larry Ellison wouldn’t strongly support him. I know what you’re thinking- what about Joe the Plumber and his dreams of entrepreneurship? Both you and he are certainly entitled to your own opinion.

bayam on August 22, 2012 at 7:51 PM

I’m waiting for the Democrat handout to ‘gay’ businesses.

Don’t expect a solid definition of that.

Liam on August 22, 2012 at 7:51 PM

I don’t know about that. Obama plays the lip service, but I suspect he’s lying. Because that’s what he does. Except when he let’s something slip like “you didn’t built that, somebody else made that happen”

forest on August 22, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Now that’s an easy test. When his lips are moving, it’s a good bet he lying.

Alabama Infidel on August 22, 2012 at 7:52 PM

The economy starts from the bottom up, from the entrepreneurs at the ground level that show individual initiative and build things. Of course, that’s not what O believes. Imagine the “middle” is big fat govt; get a bigger and fatter middle, from the middle out, that’s how O sees it.

anotherJoe on August 22, 2012 at 7:39 PM

You’re talking at cross definitions.

Obama’s definition of top/middle/bottom is personal. He urges union workers with limited education and few marketable skills to be resentful of people that are smarter and more educated. He demonizes the most successful as “fat cats” who got all they have by stealing it from the aforementioned mouth-breathing union workers with limited marketable skills. In short, Obama is engaging in class warfare which is what the socialists do best.

The other definition running around deals with entrepreneurs. In terms of top/middle/bottom, they start in the bottom. But it isn’t personal. In times past we respected these people for building a business. Under Obama, any private sector employer steals from the state. He considers them all the enemy and his comments in Roanoke was a bit of unguarded and unteleprompted truth into to evil nature of this rat-eared bastard.

Happy Nomad on August 22, 2012 at 7:52 PM

but he will need a solid performance next month in Charlotte.

doncha just love this? as if one solid teleprompter reading of pravda propaganda can magically wipe away 4 years of misery and destruction. To the leftists, their always one speech away from “clearing everything up” for us simpletons

phillysfinest on August 22, 2012 at 7:55 PM

The 26% are those that didn’t actually build that.

Odysseus on August 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Erika the Snark Shark goes well with a sudsy ale in the evening.

hillsoftx on August 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM

I’m waiting for the Democrat handout to ‘gay’ businesses.

Don’t expect a solid definition of that.

Liam on August 22, 2012 at 7:51 PM

I’m guessing you don’t mean businesses with happy employees. :0

Seriously, the executive order for this will be quite simple. Federal contracts and purchases will go to those businesses that demonstrate gay-friendly policies. The evaluation criteria will be things like if sodomites can put their partner on their health plan, leave is given for same-sex partners to adopt children, etc. In short- If you want to do business with the US Government you better prove that you support sodomy.

Happy Nomad on August 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM

“This “you didn”t (sic) build that” false TV ad is a cut-and-paste Republican specialty! President Obama’s “you didn’t build that” commnet (sic) refers to supporting roads and infrastructure, etc… and NOT the hard work that went into someone’s business!!”

HarrySaxon, 17 August 2012, 7:25 AM

Hey, if you think so, then why don’t you guys rebut it by purchasing a HUGE ad buy and running a commercial in every large market around the clock of Obama’s ENTIRE REMARK…IN ALL OF ITS CONDESCENDING GLORY?

According to the Census Bureau’s 2008 data, there were 11,875,731 small businesses (defined as any commercial entity with under 100 employees) with 42,146,664 paid employees and a combined annual payroll of $1,522,691,506.

I’m sure that all of those, who risked their own capital, struggled to create those businesses, hired all of those people, and, the majority of the time, are the last to get paid will love hearing their President tell them — in a voice dripping with sanctimony, sarcasm, mockery, snidefulness and pharisaicalness — that, in addition to they “not building THAT” (SINGULAR, he was referring to “YOU,” as in “A business owner,” individually…not PLURAL, as would be the case relative to “roadS and bridgeS,” they really just “aren’t that smart” and “haven’t worked that hard” … all the while striking a Mussolini-pose, nose in the air and chin jutted.

So, please run that ad…please, please, please, with sugar on top…and chocolate sprinkles…and marshmallows…and pistachios…and Oreo crumbles…and chocolate chunks…and Reese’s Pieces…and walnuts…and M&Ms…and chocolate whipped cream…and Irish coffee-flavoured whipped cream…and a cherry…no, make that three cherries!

Listen, I know that you guys are totally clueless, victims of a deplorable public educational system, dupes of the “Princes and Princesses of Progressivism”* , drunk on kook-aide, warped by Progressive Propaganda, low-information consumers and voters, abjectly stupid, and nothing that becoming enmeshed in the grille on the front of a semi cab couldn’t fix, but, c’mon, dahlink! There are times when you Progs state a position that leaves me so speechless that assigning the label “Weapons. Grade. Stupid.” to you is the equivalent of bringing a fly-swatter to a bazooka fight. Simply put, there are no words. Your existence defies description.

So, I want you to run ads putting Obama’s quote “in context,” which, by technical definition in Realville, where I live, not “My Progressive Little Ponyland” where you reside, means the exact words of an entire passage. Undoubtedly, you are scratching your head and one question is running in an continuous loop within your feeble, little brain: “Why?”

“Why?” Easy. The context is more devastating to him than the bumper-sticker soundbite. The fact that you guys cannot see what is so obvious to the rest of us, including Democrats, which is why they have been frantically trying to “SQUIRREL!!!”

As an aside and speaking of “Squirrel!!!-ball,” the idea is to distract the attention of the media and the public away from you and onto something else completely unrelated to you no matter how utterly ridiculous or insignificant.

“You didn’t build that!” to “They’re going to put y’all back in chains!” = 100% EPIC SQUIRREL!!! FAIL.

Now, getting back to that ad the Obama campaign needs to start airing in every.single.media.market.in.the.United.States.24/7.for.the.next.77.days, did I remember to say “please”?

Resist We Much on August 22, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Happy Nomad on August 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM

That’s about right, as I see it.

Liam on August 22, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Who the hell are these 26% business owners?

Restaurant owners who serve dog?

AndrewsDad on August 22, 2012 at 8:05 PM

According to the Census Bureau’s 2008 data, there were 11,875,731 small businesses (defined as any commercial entity with under 100 employees) with 42,146,664 paid employees and a combined annual payroll of $1,522,691,506.

Resist We Much on August 22, 2012 at 7:59 PM

..tour de force resource, RWM. And that little factoid above makes me feel much more comfortable about the poll Stuart Varney mentioned the other day where most of the small biz folks supported Romney and most of the gummint drones supported The Turdbag.

The War Planner on August 22, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Twenty-six percent is going to vote got Obama. Amazing how that correlates to the small businesses that are receiving federal monies and green power fraudulent “loans”. Looks like kickbacks will only go do far.

volsense on August 22, 2012 at 8:28 PM

The obvious retort to Obama Biden talking about growing the economy top-down vs. middle-out is this:

“Mr. Obama (Biden). You haven’t been growing the economy AT ALL!”

Doug Piranha on August 22, 2012 at 8:31 PM

bayam on August 22, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Bayam, did you perhaps read the comments below that pathetic article to read the derision from small business owners who scoff at the spectacle that is a ‘think tank’ of 3 whole economists from Boston? Seriously, I appreciate the link to the article, and I don’t know if you subscribe to snake oil economists, but having a degree in economics does not make you an authority on business. Just ask Paul Krugman. He got a doctorate for spewing Keynesian theory for his whole career and not a single one of his tenets has ever produced true gain.

When markets are recovering, which the current administration is doing its best to thwart, it is the small business who start, hire and grow first. That ridiculous article of cherry picked government statistics do not prove reality.

And as for the rest of you, stop assuming the 26% are ‘black’ businesses. Let’s not forget about Hollywood, the news media… well, any media nowadays including music, etc. Silly Democrats come in all colors, none of which are tolerant to any of us, including each other.

Symshady on August 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

There simply isn’t time enough in eternity to repudiate “You didn’t build that!”. May it cast it’s long shadow over everything this administration says and does.

JimK on August 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Yep. “You din’t build that” and “someone helped you along the waaaah” are the result of little Bammie’s experiment in going off-teleprompter, -that is, telling us what he really thinks.

slickwillie2001 on August 22, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Erika the Snark Shark goes well with a sudsy ale in the evening.

hillsoftx on August 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM

+1M

Me really likes the Snark Queen

koaiko on August 22, 2012 at 9:05 PM

“someone helped you along the waaaah”

hahaaa… that’s fantastic!

Symshady on August 22, 2012 at 9:25 PM

This is certainly not directed towards all of you. But the couple of people who felt the need to mention gay people and “sodomites.” I find it amazing that there are some people on this site that feel the need to mention gay sex in EVERYTHING. Even when there is NO mention or necessity to mention gay people, gay sex, gay anything. What is with the obsession?

If this was a post about gay people, fine. I am gay. I most certainly do not agree with most of y’alls views towards, me, my sexuality and what not. But I don’t see the need to mention it in a business thread. I certainly do not care what y’all do in your bedrooms.

nyclakerfan on August 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM

nyclakerfan on August 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Agreed. If we want to say we’re better than them, we must rise above, not sink below.

Symshady on August 22, 2012 at 9:44 PM

The 26% are those that didn’t actually build that.

Odysseus on August 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM

…inherited the business?

KOOLAID2 on August 22, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Around the area where I live I have noticed a sudden proliferation of pro-Romney/Ryan swag inside and outside small businesses and eateries. A lot of them are not only displaying Romney signs and wearing Romney clothing — they’re also putting stacks of Romney and Romney/Ryan bumper stickers and window stickers on their counters — for free.

They’re definitely pissed off at the Preezy of the United Steezy.

FlatFoot on August 22, 2012 at 10:41 PM

It was the “you didn’t build it comment.” They were already on the fence over the increased costs of Obamacare but when the smug rat-eared bastard stood on that stage in Roanoke and told them that they didn’t make their own success they ordered their Romney signs.

Happy Nomad on August 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

And it wasn’t just “you didn’t build that.” It was also, “I think it’s funny when people say it’s because they’re smart. You think you’re smart? Well, a lot of people are smart. You think you’re hard-working? Well, a lot of people are hard-working.” [paraphrased]

What an insult! What a jerk.

Alana on August 22, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Being a small business owner, I can tell you that near 100% of all small business owners that I know are solid Romney supporters.

This idiot president has our businesses down pretty bad.
I bet my business will double next year if Romney is effective.

esnap on August 23, 2012 at 1:18 AM

But the polls, the polls say it’s neck and neck… but that’s funny cause most everyone says obama sucks except for the MSM and the hard core kool aid faithful..

Does 2 + 2 still equal 4? I gotta know…

There’s something awfully screwy going on around here…

RockyJ. on August 23, 2012 at 3:41 AM

Of course that’s what Obama believes- otherwise the great entrepreneurs like Bill Gates, Larry Page and Larry Ellison wouldn’t strongly support him. I know what you’re thinking- what about Joe the Plumber and his dreams of entrepreneurship? Both you and he are certainly entitled to your own opinion.

bayam on August 22, 2012 at 7:51 PM

I don’t think these qualify as small business…

And since you list just three of thousands of “great entrepreneurs” it shows you only see what the MSM feeds you…

For every Larry Page, Larry Ellison, there are dozens similar who don’t hold that view…that’s like saying O’Reilly and Hannity, because they are number 1 and 2 opinion makers, you should follow their lead?

Pal, there is more to life than what is fed to you by your news outlets…get out and learn a little, than you can comment.

right2bright on August 23, 2012 at 7:43 AM

who’s whose policies

Preserving correct grammar and spelling for our children and grandchildren, because debased language is a leftist goal.

AesopFan on August 23, 2012 at 10:19 AM

As I was saying …

AesopFan on August 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM

It won’t matter, Obama’s gonna have the ballot boxes so stuffed that there will be more votes then registered voters!

Vntnrse on August 23, 2012 at 1:50 PM