Video: Noted party boss castigates Akin for not withdrawing

posted at 9:21 am on August 22, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Count Sarah Palin among the politely unimpressed with Todd Akin’s dedication to principle in his decision to stay in the race.  “Bless his heart,” Palin told Greta van Susteren (whose own displeasure is couched in less-generous tones), “but you have to know when to hold them and when to fold them.  Believe me, I’ve been there.”  After saying that she knows what Akin might have been trying to do in defending life, Palin emphasizes that the Senate election in Missouri is bigger than one person.  And if Akin won’t get out, Republicans have to find another way to beat Claire McCaskill — by running Palin’s original endorsee in the race as a third party [see update]:


In any other context, having Palin urge a third-party run for a Senate seat would have been the ultimate slap against the GOP establishment. Now, it might be their only option left, unless groups like the NRSC and American Crossroads are willing to eat crow and place some ads in Missouri backing Akin. It depends on the polling, but it’s hard to imagine someone with Akin’s current negatives remaining competitive for long. In October, McCaskill’s campaign is going to start running ads with the video of Akin attempting to claim that “legitimate” rape victims have super-uteri that can resist rapist sperm or something, and the race will end up looking something like Alan Keyes’ competitiveness against Barack Obama in 2004 — unless Missouri voters have another option.

So, has anyone looked up the rules on independent Senate bids in Missouri? I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s already a matter of considerable research on the Right.

Update: Allahpundit shot me a link to Jim Geraghty last night, who did do the research on third-party bids. The good news? Republicans can get another name on the ballot. The bad news? Missouri has a sore-loser law that disqualifies Steelman and John Brunner. They can put Jim Talent, John Ashcroft, and pretty much anyone else on the ballot they wish — except anyone who was on the primary ballot. Palin actually says in the interview that the GOP needs to run someone like Steelman as an independent, not Steelman herself, which commenters have pointed out to me.


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claim that “legitimate” rape victims have super-uteri that can resist rapist sperm or something

Which he never said. What he did say was stupid enough without putting words in his mouth. To me “shut that whole thing down” refers to stress affecting the implantation of a fertilized egg in the uterine wall. There’s no “magical anti-rape-sperm” mechanism at work here (which would indicate a complete moron), just misunderstanding of the extent of a well-established risk factor in pregnancy.

What he actually said was bad because he didn’t have all the facts. What they’re claiming he said is insane.

The Monster on August 22, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Palin was on fire and very definitive – Atkin must go.
Did anyone see him on TV this am? Oh my! He keeps stepping
in it.

And for those who think persons in other states should MYOB -
it is our business when state elections affect the rest of us.

And for those who keep bringing up O’Donnell – where are your
brains? We are in a fight for our lives and you are bringing up
this crapola? What are you, a whacked out democrap?

Amjean on August 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM

If third party tea party candidates are a good idea, let’s run one against Romney!

Buddahpundit on August 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Watching the comments here are interesting. Will loathing for Palin or loathing for Akin win out?

Doomberg on August 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Are we still talking about Akin? The guy is going to keep running so it is moot at this point. He made a bad remark but he is still the candidate and is still the better choice than Claire McCaskil. Is the gop really willing to abandon this race and give up on senate control and the future of this country because we are sour that this dude didn’t drop out of the race? Are people really going to vote for Claire instead? Yeah, the guy should have dropped out of the race but he didn’t and its now time to get back to what the election is really about. The more the gop keeps this in the news the less time is spent hammering the left and Obama on their policy failures.

Ellis on August 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Dante, this nathor. Nathor, this is Dante. Now, go form your own Dr. Paul Fan Club…somewhere else.

Dante, that’s an opinion.

Not a Straw Man.

kingsjester on August 22, 2012 at 9:51 AM

and leave the GOP all for you social cons? will you be happy when the GOP is Akin Base?

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Try exercising some of your nom de plume, She said someone like Steelman should run 3rd party.

Always so many to rush judgment on her only to continually be embarrassed.

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Oh, please. “Someone like Steelman” means “Steelman.” She didn’t have to put a name out there. She did. She wants Steelman in there. But she CANNOT run unless Akin steps down. If he does, Palin is trying to make sure that HER candidate gets the nod. Catch up, buddy!

Rational Thought on August 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Yes, she did. Just after Jim DeMint did.

But keep trying to revise history. It’s worked out so well for you thus far.

KingGold on August 22, 2012 at 9:32 AM

It was Sharon Angle that she only endorsed once the primary was over.

steebo77 on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Yes, she did. Just after Jim DeMint did.

But keep trying to revise history. It’s worked out so well for you thus far.

KingGold on August 22, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Didn’t DeMint and Palin both endorse O’Donnell over Coons? I don’t believe either of them endorsed O’Donnell over Castle in the primary. Besides which, it can’t be said enough: Exit polling suggests Castle would have lost just as badly to Coons.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM

I thought she endorsed in the primary. Because I recall being disappointed. COD was clearly going down, and Castle would have been better than Coons. Anyway, I think she’s learned her lesson since then. I consider that one of her big mistakes. Along with going into extremely hostile interviews with piss poor handlers and almost no preparation for the national stage.

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

and leave the GOP all for you social cons? will you be happy when the GOP is Akin Base?

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM

You’re flailing. Loosen that tin foil hat up a little bit, Skippy.

kingsjester on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

I’m not Ed, but the filing deadline has passed for anything but a write-in candidate. Akin’s meltdown could not have come at a better time for Democrats.

Doomberg on August 22, 2012 at 9:52 AM

No. Better that it happens now rather than a week before the election, after the Republicans and Super PACs have spent millions on the race and Republican leaders waste time campaigning for this bozo.

As well as it would derail the Romney-Ryan campaign’s closing message.

aunursa on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

better castle than coons. its Delaware! what do you expect?

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:52 AM

How in the heck is it better than Coons if they vote the same dang way? Better having a Republican voting like a liberal than a Democrat voting like a liberal?! Please.

topdawg on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Sarah gave us O’donnell and the “I am not a witch” hilarity! nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:25 AM

“This just in: Sarah Palin imperfect. Film at 11.”

Akzed on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Watching the comments here are interesting. Will loathing for Palin or loathing for Akin win out?

Doomberg on August 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM

3rd option, loath GOP stupidity, including our blogger, for helping keeping the issue alive, but he must be thinking more on the traffic than on the good of the Party.

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

And anyone saying how a 3rd party challenget would have no shot, lets remember that if it was not for one idiotic statement, Akin would have 99.99% been likely to win. CM has been an awful Senator, and even against Akin, will not win by more than a few percentage points. And if you give people a reason not to vote for her, even with Akin in the way, CM will still lose.

milcus on August 22, 2012 at 9:47 AM

The Republicans tried a third party challenge in the Colorado gubernatorial race in 2010 when Dan Maes (the R) blew up and refused to drop out. The result was an easy victory for the Democrat, because Republican and independent votes split substantially.

Conservatives turned to Ross Perot as an alternative to Bush 41. The result was a Clinton victory.

This tactic never works for Republicans. It isn’t worth the trouble.

Outlander on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Amjean on August 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM

You know that’s right. Thank you. (Don’t hold back next time)

gracie on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

So if we pretend election of an idiot to the US Senate doesn’t affect all of us – and we use your logic of leaving it to the voters in that state – exactly why does anyone ever get involved on elections in any other state? Should the rule be butt out of any election held in any state other than your own?

katiejane on August 22, 2012 at 9:37 AM

There are lots of idiots in Congress. Lots.

I think pressure, influence and even a little bit of biting reality has already been generously applied to Akin and yet, he’s still there.

Individually, you can do whatever you like, send money, volunteer in other states. Butt in wherever you see fit. And, nationally, the GOP can deny support and money if they choose, I don’t care. Ultimately, it’s now up to the people of Missouri to decide if Akin’s still good enough to represent them or not.

I think we have to be cognizent of the slight hypocrisy of our side touting state’s rights vs. federal bullying while pushing the equivalancy of a “nationally” (read that centrally or federally) approved candidate in each state.

“Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.”
Articles of Confederation, ratified in 1781

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
The US Constitution, 10th Amendment, ratified in 1791

All that said, I’m disgusted with Akin’s “legitimate” remark but I am more disgusted with the circus this has become, with our help.

Fallon on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Just curious, but how many of you think the 17th should be repealed now?

ButterflyDragon on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

better castle than coons. its Delaware! what do you expect?

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:52 AM

How in the heck is it better than Coons if they vote the same dang way? Better having a Republican voting like a liberal than a Democrat voting like a liberal?! Please.

topdawg on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

“Better Castle than Coons.” “Better Romney than Obama.” No wonder this country’s getting flushed down the shitter.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

A third party candidate would assure a McCaskill win unless Akin drops out before the election. I’m sure that Palin knows that.

cajunpatriot on August 22, 2012 at 9:27 AM

I am 100% certain that a “write-in” Republican candidate would win the Missouri Senate seat because in this scenario Akin the fool would not get more than 5% of the vote and it would not be enough for McCaskill to win…

mnjg on August 22, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Social Con here and I find what Akin said totally ignorant, wrong and discreditable.

Can we stop lumping everyone into stereotypes in our discussions.

Akins is obviously self deluded and willing to spout garbage in support of his beliefs. No one should want such a person representing them regardless of how much they might support his beliefs.

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Just curious, but how many of you think the 17th should be repealed now?

ButterflyDragon on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

I’ve been agitating for repeal of the 17th amendment literally for years. It may happen in my lifetime, but I’m not holding my breath.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

“Better Castle than Coons.” “Better Romney than Obama.” No wonder this country’s getting flushed down the shitter.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

The country is not Delaware. We should be able to expect better than Romney.

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

17th Amendment

Akzed on August 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

How in the heck is it better than Coons if they vote the same dang way? Better having a Republican voting like a liberal than a Democrat voting like a liberal?! Please.

topdawg on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

there would be many issues where castle would stand with the GOP and in the end help it. it would also be easyier to preasure him to vote GOP’s way because his doners are Repub.
take what you can get from a place like delaware.

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Your behaving like a hack

Oh sorry by your logic you MUST actually be a hack.

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Isn’t that what you would mean, that he’s pretty much a hack? Later on in the interview she does seem to endorse the idea of Steelman running third party, so in this case I think ‘like Sarah Steelman’ meant Sarah Steelman. But if she didn’t mean it like that, I do wonder who she had in mind.

changer1701 on August 22, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Exactly right. However, some posters, in fulfillment of their own personal agendas, want to keep the circular firing squad going, because, in some cases, they are not Conservatives, nor actual Republicans.

kingsjester on August 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

The country is not Delaware. We should be able to expect better than Romney.

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

I did expect better than Romney. And now here we are. REPEAL THE 17TH. And the 16th while you’re at it…

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM

“This just in: Sarah Palin imperfect. Film at 11.”

Akzed on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Exactly. Considering the fact that she typically endorses the underdog in a primary (e.g. Ted Cruz), her record is pretty impressive.

aunursa on August 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

and leave the GOP all for you social cons? will you be happy when the GOP is Akin Base?

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Say what you will about social cons. They aren’t as bad as you big government statist types.

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

The Republicans tried a third party challenge in the Colorado gubernatorial race in 2010 when Dan Maes (the R) blew up and refused to drop out. The result was an easy victory for the Democrat, because Republican and independent votes split substantially.

Conservatives turned to Ross Perot as an alternative to Bush 41. The result was a Clinton victory.

This tactic never works for Republicans. It isn’t worth the trouble.

Outlander on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

The GOP didn’t have a choice in Colorado. Their candidate was toxic and had no hope of winning. The same thing applies here. Achin’ has no chance at pulling off the upset. If you think otherwise, you’re as delusional as him.

So we have two choices going forward(assuming he doesn’t successfully withdraw before 9/25). We either concede this seat to the Dems or try to field a write-in candidate. I’d rather we do whatever it takes to win.

Doughboy on August 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Run, Sarah, Run?

faraway on August 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Just curious, but how many of you think the 17th should be repealed now?

ButterflyDragon on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

I’ve been agitating for repeal of the 17th amendment literally for years. It may happen in my lifetime, but I’m not holding my breath.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

States rights died with the 17 amendment. It is one of the worst amendments ever proposed let alone approved. What is worse is most Americans had no idea there was a time when Senators where appointed vice elected.

States rights will never come back or be defended unless we start allowing states to appoint Senators again. No one votes for states rights over personal choices.

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

there would be many issues where castle would stand with the GOP and in the end help it. it would also be easyier to preasure him to vote GOP’s way because his doners are Repub.
take what you can get from a place like delaware.

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:00 AM

So let’s all ignore the fact that exit polling suggested a Castle loss at least as bad as O’Donnell’s was. That’s okay, cause at least he would have stood with the national party or something.

/EyeRoll

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Say what you will about social cons. They aren’t as bad as you big government statist types.

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

They are big government statist types.

Dante on August 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Well the guy didn’t drop out. So does that mean you all are going to make sure we don’t keep the seat by not voting for the guy? Really? Because of one remark?

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 22, 2012 at 9:33 AM

See if you can connect the dots:

War on women
Sandra Fluck
Republicans will return you to the 1950′s
Romney is losing the single female vote and now maybe the suburban mom vote

Portia46 on August 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Exactly right. However, some posters, in fulfillment of their own personal agendas, want to keep the circular firing squad going, because, in some cases, they are not Conservatives, nor actual Republicans.

kingsjester on August 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Limbaugh, Coulter, Levin — Damn RINOs!

aunursa on August 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Write-in is the only option unless Akin withdraws and can get his name legally removed from the ballot.

There is total confusion because no one will lay out the alternatives that are legally available.

matthew8787 on August 22, 2012 at 9:51 AM

It would be nice if someone laid them out then.
^5 for the traffic though and derailing the thread into SP and the witch of Delaware.

Murcowski pulled off a write in..
Can it be done again? I am asking seriously.

bazil9 on August 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

They are big government statist types.

Dante on August 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Wrong.

kingsjester on August 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Later on in the interview she does seem to endorse the idea of Steelman running third party, so in this case I think ‘like Sarah Steelman’ meant Sarah Steelman. But if she didn’t mean it like that, I do wonder who she had in mind.

changer1701 on August 22, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Who cares if she did? She’s supposed to be an expert on MO election law?

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 10:04 AM

No one votes for states rights over personal choices.

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

BINGO.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Portia46 on August 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Bull.
Women aren’t single issue voters…and we’re not stupid.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 22, 2012 at 10:04 AM

B]arely two weeks into the general-election campaign, Akin committed a series of gaffes. He called a McCaskill campaign website attacking his record accurate, admitted not knowing what was in a farm bill important to his state, suggested reconsideration of civil-rights laws, and called a federal school-lunch program unconstitutional. Akin’s recent statement that “legitimate rape” rarely causes pregnancy, while uniquely offensive, was just the worst in a series of statements advertising his unsuitability and the final straw that caused GOP leaders to conclude that he is unelectable against even the extremely vulnerable McCaskill.

aunursa on August 22, 2012 at 9:53 AM

I suspected this was probably not his first display of stupidity, but I have not been following that race at all, until now.

Akin has established a pattern of saying dumb, and in some cases offensive, things. If he stays in the race there will be more, and he will be in the national MSM spotlight when he does.

farsighted on August 22, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Missouri Republican voters: you should have listened to Sarah.

aunursa on August 22, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Sarah gave us O’donnell and the “I am not a witch” hilarity!

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Versus the establishment Mike Castle?

Do you even think before you type?

ChuckTX on August 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

I’ve been agitating for repeal of the 17th amendment literally for years. It may happen in my lifetime, but I’m not holding my breath.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

hell no! those congress critters must answer to us!

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

They are big government statist types.

Dante on August 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Some. Like Huckabee. But most are Democrats.

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

aunursa on August 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Did I say that? They are Pundits. Their job is to remark on the hot topic of the day.

kingsjester on August 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Zombie Akin lurches on.

Now that’s really pro-life!

profitsbeard on August 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Sarah is right of course, BUT, I do hope that she doesn’t spend any more time talking about this race. Obviously Akin should have dropped out because, fair or not, he is toxic going forward. After Akin won and before his bizarre remarks, Sarah had called for unity because she knows how important this race is, something that seems to be lost on Akin. The Missouri GOP could have had national support for ousting McCaskill – they could have had Sarah Palin and a long list of big-name Republicans and national conservatives assisting in their fight, but now, any support will be muted at best. Nationally, few are going to publicly support Akin – he will not receive nation-wide donations – Akin is pretty much on his own and he has a tough battle ahead. McCaskill must go, but, now it is unclear if Akin can take her out.

Pork-Chop on August 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Worth repeating:

http://twitter.com/SarahPalinUSA/status/237693924540547073

Sarah PalinVerified ‏@SarahPalinUSA

Sometimes we’re actually right when we go with our gut and stand on principle in supporting underdog candidates.

ChuckTX on August 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Bull.
Women aren’t single issue voters…and we’re not stupid.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 22, 2012 at 10:04 AM

You may not be a single-issue voter, Twerp. I’m not going to sit here and tell you that most women are; I don’t think that’s the case. But I do think enough women are single-issue voters to sway elections. That’s just politics for you.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM

So let’s all ignore the fact that exit polling suggested a Castle loss at least as bad as O’Donnell’s was. That’s okay, cause at least he would have stood with the national party or something.

/EyeRoll

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Not quite. Coons beat O’Donnell by 16 points. Exit polls for a Coon-Castle face-off showed a statistical tie.

GOPRanknFile on August 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Sarah Palin – Party Boss

I like it..:)

idesign on August 22, 2012 at 9:25 AM

.
dems like it too

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:31 AM

.
Are you that stupid, or a liar ?

All of the above ?

listens2glenn on August 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Bad enough that every headline this morning is Akin, Akin, Akin. But now, on top of that, this thread has deteriorated into two tired old memes: The pro-Palins against the anti-Palins, and the Castle-Coons-O’Donnell race from two years ago.

Meanwhile, there’s been no headline yet–and there REALLY MUST BE–on how and why Joe Biden is being dispatched to Tampa while the GOP convention will be going on. Doesn’t that strike any of our bloggers as a little bit curious?

Right Mover on August 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Palin actually says in the interview that the GOP needs to run someone like Steelman as an independent, not Steelman herself, which commenters have pointed out to me.

Ed, she said she could get behind a third party run by Steelman:

“Maybe it is a third party run of Sarah Steelman’s that I could get behind.” @ 4:27

rukiddingme on August 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Your behaving like a hack

Oh sorry by your logic you MUST actually be a hack.

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Isn’t that what you would mean, that he’s pretty much a hack? Later on in the interview she does seem to endorse the idea of Steelman running third party, so in this case I think ‘like Sarah Steelman’ meant Sarah Steelman. But if she didn’t mean it like that, I do wonder who she had in mind.

changer1701 on August 22, 2012 at 10:00 AM

No it isn’t, being like something is not the same thing as actually being it. The problem many seem to have here is with inference. They want to infer Sarah meant Steelman literally but that is incorrect.

It is incorrect becuase Sarah actually did endorse Steelman in the primary. There is no reason she would not endorse her Steelman for the third party bid. The fact then that she says “like” indicates she wants a similar type of candidate otherwise she would have just said Steelman, why would she choose “like” over actually recommending Steelman given she had already endorsed her previously. The inference fails and those using it are using little to no critical thinking about her statement.

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I’ve been agitating for repeal of the 17th amendment literally for years. It may happen in my lifetime, but I’m not holding my breath.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

hell no! those congress critters must answer to us!

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

How’s that working out in MO, moron?

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I free clue to some of you.
Heart broken Paul bots toying with you..

bazil9 on August 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM

This tactic never works for Republicans. It isn’t worth the trouble.

Outlander on August 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Check with Lisa Murkowski about how this never works.

You all are cursing the establishment Republicans (and the non-establishment ones too) and telling us all about MO can do what MO wants. Fine. But explain to us exactly where prune face is going to get the money to finance his personal ambitions? Is he independently wealthy? Please remember that the national party can’t force him off, but while he’s cursing them (and us), the national party is under no obligation to tie this albatross around its neck and spend money on Mr. It’s All About Me Akin.

Portia46 on August 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Coons beat O’Donnell by 16 points. Exit polls for a Coon-Castle face-off showed a statistical tie.

GOPRanknFile on August 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Blah. I didn’t vote in Delaware. I don’t live in Delaware. I don’t live in Missouri either. Big freakin deal.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Who cares if she did? She’s supposed to be an expert on MO election law?

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Did I say that? And I don’t care, just find it odd that so many others rush to parse her words so as to make sure she wasn’t wrong.

changer1701 on August 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Sarah Palin – Party Boss

I like it..:)

idesign on August 22, 2012 at 9:25 AM

.
dems like it too

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:31 AM

.
Are you that stupid, or a liar ?

All of the above ?

listens2glenn on August 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

dems would love to paint the GOP as the party of sarah, believe me! maybe they are mistaken, but is the truth!

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Oh, please. “Someone like Steelman” means “Steelman.”

Rational Thought on August 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Not necessarily. It can be heard two ways:

1) “Someone like, oh, maybe Steelman.” (meaning specifically Steelman)

2) “Someone who is like Steelman.” (meaning not Steelman specifically)

You can read that quote either way. YMMV. Unless you’re in Sarah’s brain, don’t pretend to know exactly what she meant. It can easily be interpreted either way.

tdpwells on August 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Ed, she said she could get behind a third party run by Steelman:

“Maybe it is a third party run of Sarah Steelman’s that I could get behind.” @ 4:27

rukiddingme on August 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Are we dissecting every syllable uttered by Palin?

You might be more useful of if you focus on the bigger issues, like getting rid of Akin..:)

idesign on August 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Blah. I didn’t vote in Delaware. I don’t live in Delaware. I don’t live in Missouri either. Big freakin deal.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

I understand and of course, I never claimed any of those things. You just made an assertion and I just thought I would correct it. That’s all.

GOPRanknFile on August 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM

How’s that working out in MO, moron?

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:08 AM

why the insult dude?

the congress sucks, but I don’t see the fault at the 17th amendment.

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM

aunursa on August 22, 2012 at 9:53 AM

I suspected as much since Claire and the Democrats paid for his Primary win. Thank you for the depressing facts.

Portia46 on August 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM

kingsjester on August 22, 2012 at 9:51 AM

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and leave the GOP all for you social cons? will you be happy when the GOP is Akin Base?

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM

.
I’ll be less unhappy when the country is God based.

Kinda’ like how it started.

listens2glenn on August 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

I would also like to suggest to all those holding Palin accountable to Missouri election law knowledge, if you didn’t know yourself why would you expect Palin to know more than you? She has no reason to know the actual law and better than everyone posting here.

Yes she should research for her interviews but a person can’t become an expert in everything for every moment.

Let us try to keep reasonable expectations for everyone, not just for ourselves.

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Todd Akin is playing the victim card, people! Unbelievable. He is worse than I ever imagined.

What a worthless toad that man is. Todd Akin put us in this position, and now he’s pretending like he is the one being attacked. He’s presenting this as “warrior on mission given to him personally by God bravely resisting party overlords!” He’s like a selfish little Don Quixote who is a legend in his own mind. He doesn’t seem to care about standing in the way of Republicans retaking the Senate or about possibly hurting Republicans across the country, including on the presidential ticket!

The reality is that all conservatives, boss or not, want this man to step aside. Doesn’t he get a clue when the only people who want him to stay in the race are DEMOCRATS?!

bluegill on August 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Are we dissecting every syllable uttered by Palin?

You might be more useful of if you focus on the bigger issues, like getting rid of Akin..:)

idesign on August 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Aren’t you the one that was complaining that no one was paying attention to the fact that Palin used the word, “like”? Now you’re criticizing others for “dissecting every syllable uttered by Palin.”

GOPRanknFile on August 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Be realistic. His favorables are in the toilet after that remark and his subsequent attempts at damage control and spin. People are not going to vote for him. If the choice on Election Day is Achin’ or McCaskill, the Dems hold onto this seat for 6 more years. Period.

So you think splitting up the conservative vote even futher by having write-ins is the best way to go? Guess what happens in that situation. The dems will definately hold on to the seat.

BTW, keep in mind that this whole “Oh, the guy said legitamit rape, I’m not voting for him” smell of the Bradly effect. Especially in regards to men syaign it. It’s like the South Park episode “S3xual Healing” and how whenever a man is next to a woman he would talk abotu how he could never understand a married man finding another woman attractive.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Check with Lisa Murkowski about how this never works.

Portia46 on August 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Thx, just asked that above..no replies.

dems would love to paint the GOP as the party of sarah, believe me! maybe they are mistaken, but is the truth!

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

No right now they are loving painting the GOP as the party of Akin types. Fair..no. Perception is reality to many and the average voter isn’t a political junkie.

bazil9 on August 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM

hell no! those congress critters must answer to us!

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

The problem is, with direct election of Senators – they do answer to the people, which means they buy “the people’s” votes with all kinds of entitlements and other spending, always enlarging federal power at the expense of the States.

If the Senators were beholden to each ones respective state legislature (which, by the way, are elected directly), then the Senators would care a lot more about State rights and limiting federal power vis a vis the states, instead of worrying about buying as many votes as possible through federal expenditures.

It would not be perfect, but it would be far, far better than the current mess.

Monkeytoe on August 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM

How’s that working out in MO, moron?

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:08 AM

why the insult dude?

the congress sucks, but I don’t see the fault at the 17th amendment.

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM

That is because you are ignorant of the constitution’s purpose in having senators appointed by state legislators. The House of Representatives represents the people, and representation is therefore by population. The Senate represents the states, and that is why state legislators originally appointed them. The 17th amendment was no less than a transfer of power from the states themselves to the federal cabal — something which I oppose on principle, let alone all the good practical reasons we’ve seen in our lifetimes to oppose it.

Next thing you know, you’re going to tell me you thought the 16th amendment was a good idea, too.

/facepalm

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Oh, please. “Someone like Steelman” means “Steelman.” She didn’t have to put a name out there. She did. She wants Steelman in there. But she CANNOT run unless Akin steps down. If he does, Palin is trying to make sure that HER candidate gets the nod. Catch up, buddy!

Rational Thought on August 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM

WOW, You twisted yourself into knots. Try again BUDDY

KBird on August 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Are we still talking about Akin? The guy is going to keep running so it is moot at this point.

Ellis on August 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Like Hell!

He must be removed and will must never support this nutter. We can still take the MO seat, one way or another. It will be done. No way I’m okay with throwing in the towel just like that.

bluegill on August 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Some. Like Huckabee. But most are Democrats.

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Not some, but all.

Dante on August 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Check with Lisa Murkowski about how this never works.

Portia46 on August 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

I think this is a very different situation. Sure – it could possibly work. I think it is very, very unlikely.

Monkeytoe on August 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

I thought she endorsed in the primary. Because I recall being disappointed. COD was clearly going down, and Castle would have been better than Coons.

besser tot als rot on August 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Not be much. Castle is to the left of the Dingbat Twins from Maine and sometimes was below Dems in the ACU ratings. COD did us a favor by ending that a-hole’s political career.

bw222 on August 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

dems would love to paint the GOP as the party of sarah, believe me! maybe they are mistaken, but is the truth!

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

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But they’re not, because . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . well … some reason, anyway.

listens2glenn on August 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Aren’t you the one that was complaining that no one was paying attention to the fact that Palin used the word, “like”? Now you’re criticizing others for “dissecting every syllable uttered by Palin.”

GOPRanknFile on August 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

If the exact same thing were said by a rank and file republican would so many here try so hard to discredit them or would a more general/generous standard for the statements spoken be used?

Skwor on August 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Aren’t you the one that was complaining that no one was paying attention to the fact that Palin used the word, “like”? Now you’re criticizing others for “dissecting every syllable uttered by Palin.”

GOPRanknFile on August 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

I didn’t bring the issue up..:)

idesign on August 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

I think this is a very different situation. Sure – it could possibly work. I think it is very, very unlikely.

Monkeytoe on August 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

As bad as she is, McCaskill is still a more viable candidate than the Alaska Dem senate candidate.

bw222 on August 22, 2012 at 10:20 AM

I’ll be less unhappy when the country is God based.

Kinda’ like how it started.

listens2glenn on August 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

I sure you do dear fundie! but this is also the country of atheists like myself.

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:21 AM

If the exact same thing were said by a rank and file republican would so many here try so hard to discredit them or would a more general/generous standard for the statements spoken be used?

I’m not attacking Palin at all. In fact, in this thread alone, I’ve defended her numerous times. I was just calling out the double standard used by idesign who was complaining that no one was giving credence to the fact that Palin used the word, “like,” but then he/she criticizes others for also dissecting every word Palin used.

GOPRanknFile on August 22, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Ed, she said she could get behind a third party run by Steelman:

“Maybe it is a third party run of Sarah Steelman’s that I could get behind.” @ 4:27

rukiddingme on August 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

I don’t see what people are bitching about. Palin is trying to find a way to win the race for the GOP. If Steelman can’t run, so be it; find somebody else. The prevailing mood, especially among the people in the Establishment who hate Palin, is to scold Palin for even raising the issue.

They’d rather stew in their defeatisme and continue to have the GOP remain the French Third Republic of political parties so they can continue to gripe about the MSM and the Democrats doing what it takes to win races all the time, as if that makes life “unfair”.

Thanks, but no thanks. I’d rather stick with Palin, who, instead of griping and going on about what Akin said, is trying to get the GOP past that and concentrate on winning the seat for Mitch McConnell.

But some people around here want to talk about Christine O’Donnell and Mike Castle, as if that’s f**king relevant to taking the Missouri Senate seat in November. These are, as usual, the same people who dislike Palin intensely. I’m not surprised.

The Stupid Party marches on…

victor82 on August 22, 2012 at 10:22 AM

But they’re not, because . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . well … some reason, anyway.

listens2glenn on August 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

eh, :) its tough isent it? :)

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:23 AM

I watched the video twice and from what I’ve gathered on MO election law, Sarah did not say anything factually wrong.

She is suggesting that Steelman or someone “Like” Steelman go third party, not “write-in”.

WisRich on August 22, 2012 at 10:23 AM

I sure you do dear fundie! but this is also the country of atheists like myself.

nathor on August 22, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Now I see why you dislike Palin…LOL

idesign on August 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

COMPLETELY OT:

FloraDuh, of Cindy,
can you comment on this?? Best news in a dismal week

http://www.therightscoop.com/poll-surprise-mitt-romney-up-by-14-points-in-florida/

ToddPA on August 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Oh, please. You think she meant like as in similar?

This is spin and rationalization at its worst.

Dante on August 22, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Oh, you mean like how you and other Paulnuts try to spin it when Ron Paul says WE killed 100,000 1,000,000 Iraqis?

Oh wait, it’s nothing like that. Because Sarah Palin actually did say LIKE Steelman.

Meanwhile, you Paulnuts swear up and down that Ron Paul doesn’t think we killed 1,000,000 Iraqis even though taht’s exactly what he said.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Blah. I didn’t vote in Delaware. I don’t live in Delaware. I don’t live in Missouri either. Big freakin deal.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Except when this senator (McCaskill) votes on something that does affect you, outside of Missouri.

You do realize that?

ChuckTX on August 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

I didn’t bring the issue up..:)

idesign on August 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

IIRC, you were one of the first ones to bring light to the fact that she used the word, “like,” so therefore wasn’t directly asking Steelman to run. Others were just responding to you by asserting that Palin did, in fact, want Steelman to run, later on in the interview. I didn’t see the interview so I don’t know if this is true or not.

GOPRanknFile on August 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Bang-up job, Ed. Party Boss? Next time, try googling whether or not what you’re getting all giddy about is even possible under state rules, so Allah doesn’t have to fix your junk.

Rusty Allen on August 22, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Bull.
Women aren’t single issue voters…and we’re not stupid.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 22, 2012 at 10:04 AM

If it’s true (that women are not stupid), why do the overwhelming majority keep voting for Democrats?

Just askin’.

bw222 on August 22, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Except when this senator (McCaskill) votes on something that does affect you, outside of Missouri.

You do realize that?

ChuckTX on August 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Yeah I realize that. And there is literally NOTHING I can do about it. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 10:26 AM

The best part of dredging the Castle/Coons Race back up is that Castle is still done and RINOs are still mad about it.

SurferDoc on August 22, 2012 at 10:26 AM

But explain to us exactly where prune face is going to get the money to finance his personal ambitions? Is he independently wealthy? Please remember that the national party can’t force him off, but while he’s cursing them (and us), the national party is under no obligation to tie this albatross around its neck and spend money on Mr. It’s All About Me Akin.

Portia46 on August 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Oh, I don’t think a Republican should lift a finger or spend one red cent supporting Akin. He’s a total fiasco. All I’m saying is that if he refuses to drop out, we’re probably going to have to cede the seat to McCaskill. I just don’t see where spending millions of dollars trying to run a backup third-party candidate is likely to result in GOP victory.

Outlander on August 22, 2012 at 10:27 AM

IIRC, you were one of the first ones to bring light to the fact that she used the word, “like,” so therefore wasn’t directly asking Steelman to run. Others were just responding to you by asserting that Palin did, in fact, want Steelman to run, later on in the interview. I didn’t see the interview so I don’t know if this is true or not.

GOPRanknFile on August 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

You lie..:)

I only responded…

“quit making things up.”

idesign on August 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM

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