CBS: Sources say Akin might quit if he doesn’t get early support

posted at 4:01 pm on August 22, 2012 by Allahpundit

Yeah, well, on Monday there were also sources whispering to prominent conservatives on Twitter that Akin would be out on Tuesday. One of the salient facts about this guy is that, for a sitting congressman, he appears to be unusually cloistered from the party’s leadership: Not only is his family running his campaign, but if you believe Mark Halperin, GOP bigwigs had trouble even getting him on the phone yesterday. What do “sources” know in a case like this?

But here you go anyway. Hope springs eternal:

If he stays on the ballot, Akin will have to rebuild without any money from the national party and with new misgivings among rank-and-file Republican voters who just two weeks ago propelled him to a comfortable victory in a hotly contested three-way primary.

But, says Andrews, “Two sources tell CBS News Aiken’s real strategy here is to hang tough — for now — and see if that wins enough money and support to stay in the race. In others words– his final decision to stay in–may not be final.”

In a potential sign of his strategy, Akin appealed Tuesday to Christian evangelicals, anti-abortion activists and anti-establishment Republicans. He said he remains the best messenger to highlight respect for life and liberty that he contends are crumbling under the big-government policies of President Obama.

Ed noted earlier that Akin was notably noncommittal about staying in the race when pressed on it this morning. If there was any huge groundswell of support for him among social conservatives, we should have seen it over the past two days as “party bosses” — Akin’s term for basically the entire Republican Party and conservative commentariat — piled on him to drop out. His online fundraising haul as I write this, after two days of relentless national media coverage: A shade over $25,000, a drop in the bucket in a state where the NRSC was prepared to spend $5 million on his behalf. Speaking of which, the next deadline is approaching:

Meanwhile, the National Republican Senatorial Committee is closely watching another deadline: Sept. 11, the date on which its $5 million ad buy was scheduled to begin to blister McCaskill from then until Election Day.

If Akin stays in the race at that point, the NRSC plans to scrap the ad buy. But if the party committee were to cancel the ad buy and later rebook it on behalf of a new candidate, the NRSC would have to pay for the ads at much higher rates, costing the party significant resources that could otherwise go toward another candidate in a tight race.

All of which adds to a continued sense of urgency among party officials worried that Akin’s blunder could wash away their chances of a Senate majority in the fall.

Looks like I was wrong, then, about the NRSC eventually being pressured to step in on Akin’s behalf if he hangs in there. It’s not a simple matter of releasing the money they’d earmarked for him; it’s a matter potentially of either having to raise more or pulling funds earmarked for other competitive Senate candidates to try to drag him over the finish line. They’ve got three weeks to watch the polls and decide whether he’s worth gambling on.

As for what convinced Akin to keep going, it was … a robo-poll, taken in the immediate aftermath of his rape comments, before every prominent conservative in America called on him to quit and before a single Democratic attack ad has run.

Embattled Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin commissioned an automated-telephone poll Monday, which showed him in a statistical dead heat with Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo, according to a source close to the congressman. That finding, along with a separate Public Policy Polling survey showing the race competitive, played a large role in convincing him not to withdraw from the race before Tuesday’s deadline.

Akin’s internal poll showed 90 percent of respondents were aware of the controversy, leading Akin to conclude he couldn’t fall much further.

How do you suppose he’ll fare among the 10 percent who aren’t aware of the controversy yet, bearing in mind that the margin in this race will be razor thin even in a GOP best-case scenario? The point of calling on him to drop out isn’t that it’s metaphysically impossible for him to win, it’s that with a strong Republican nominee it would be all but impossible to lose. Everything is stacked against McCaskill. Or was, before America was introduced to the fable of the Magic Uterus.

Here’s Paul Ryan in an interview this morning running in the opposite direction. Not sure how much good it’ll do him; sounds like the entire Democratic convention will be Akinpalooza now. Exit question for election lawyers via Matt Lewis: Can Akin and Ann Wagner trade places on their respective ballots?


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He thinks he’s on a mission from God. You think mere mortals will convince him otherwise?

aunursa on August 22, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Democrats are trolling for votes in in cleaned out waters.

rob verdi on August 22, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Not sure how much good it’ll do him; sounds like the entire Democratic convention will be Akinpalooza now.

Akin gave them a raison d’être.

Schadenfreude on August 22, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Allah, shouldn’t you be scouring the net looking for favorable polls for Obama?

The Notorious G.O.P on August 22, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Somebody tape my head together.
Please.

AllahsNippleHair on August 22, 2012 at 4:05 PM

If he announces that he is looking for support, won’t that encourage Democrats to write checks to keep him in. If they are basing their convention on him it sounds like money well spent.

Cindy Munford on August 22, 2012 at 4:06 PM

MM can turn words.

Schadenfreude on August 22, 2012 at 4:06 PM

All he has to do is embrace atheism, Communism and homosexuality – and he’s back in, Baby! The Democrats would be muted.

OhEssYouCowboys on August 22, 2012 at 4:06 PM

What a dickhead. I’d be shocked if some of that 25K he raised wasn’t from Kos Kidz eager to encourage him to hang in there.

BuzzCrutcher on August 22, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I’m sure Democrats are going to start donating to Akin’s campaign shortly, anything to help keep him on the ticket.

maubman on August 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Good luck with that, jackazz.

RedNewEnglander on August 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

He’s on a Mission from Gatt!

:P

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on August 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

I already hear conservative voices that its time to get behind this idiot. That we have “no choice now”. Yes we do. We can force him to see the light. Screw him until he gets out. He’s already hurting us. And it will not stop.

Robb on August 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

CBS: Sources say Akin might quit if he doesn’t get early support

What? Just about everyone telling him to quit isn’t enough of a hint?

Chip on August 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Early support ha, how about any support – early or late. Geez. this guy is a moron and missourians deserve better. Get out now.

Fuquay Steve on August 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Akin should drop out on the first day of the Democratic convention…..

redguy on August 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Todd Akin, don’t go away mad.

Paul-Cincy on August 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

What an idiot. As paltry as that 25K is, I’d be shocked if a good chunk of it wasn’t from democrats eager to keep him in.

BuzzCrutcher on August 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

The point of calling on him to drop out isn’t that it’s metaphysically impossible for him to win, it’s that with a strong Republican nominee it would be all but impossible to lose. Everything is stacked against McCaskill. Or was, before America was introduced to the fable of the Magic Uterus.

that thar is weapons grade snark……

well played.

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

aunursa on August 22, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I don’t think that his interviews display a belief of divine provenience but of your typical narcissist. I mean, who else have you heard say “I won!”. That other noted Jesus freak Barack Hussein Obama.

Cindy Munford on August 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

I already hear conservative voices that its time to get behind this idiot.

Robb on August 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Ed just said that we need to get behind him in October if there are no other choices.

Paul-Cincy on August 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Or was, before America was introduced to the fable of the Magic Uterus.

Always count on the stupidity of the right.

Schadenfreude on August 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

He is in the congressional science committee…the irony.

Schadenfreude on August 22, 2012 at 4:09 PM

In an unrelated story, CBS sources tell them the Obama campaign is going to feature positive ads highlighting the SCOAMF’s record ONLY during and after the Democratic convention.

/s

PolAgnostic on August 22, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Yeah, I don’t see how people can defend “no abortion, even if you were raped”. I understand the first part; fine. But the rape clause? That is awfully cruel to the victim.

lorien1973 on August 22, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Ed just said that we need to get behind him in October if there are no other choices.

Paul-Cincy on August 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

This is just the next chapter in the melo-, er stupido-drama.

Sept. 25 is the next deadline.

Schadenfreude on August 22, 2012 at 4:10 PM

9/25, dude. 9/25.

sentinelrules on August 22, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Alternate headline: Todd Akin begs Claire Mccaskill for more money.

stldave on August 22, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Michelle writes:
Go on now, go, walk out that door, Rep. Akin. No, don’t walk. Run!

I’m concerned if he leaves, the door might swing closed too quickly and injure him.

Paul-Cincy on August 22, 2012 at 4:11 PM

The Moron, when he finally realize how untenable his situation is, has up to 9/25 to step aside. But that would involve having to get a court order, and that may be challenged by the Dem or the Dem Secretary of State.

What about, in the very near future, the GOP recruits a well known credible candidate and run him (and preferably her, if one is available) as a write in or third party candidate, whichever the rules allow. When the moron realizes the hard truth, the GOP can negotiate an arrangement with Akin … (retiring his debts , for instance, but no office or position) and the moron will just “suspend” his campaign and stop running, without officially withdrawing. That will get around Dem interference and still result in a 2 candidate race.

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

9/25 dude, 9/25.

sentinelrules on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

There are no mulligans for conservatives, so one way or another, he has got to go.

mwbri on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Not sure how much good it’ll do him; sounds like the entire Democratic convention will be Akinpalooza now.

May I ask a question. Since the 5pm deadline yesterday came and went and we were hyperventilating up until that point, and now that the Dems are planning Akinapalooza, would it make some sort of diabolical sense to let the dems commit fully to Akin and then let him pull out later? A concession perhaps? I mean, watching the Dems faceplant onto a guy who’s no longer in a race would be some rich schadenfrauede, IMO….

2c

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

But now that Akin stayed in past yesterday’s deadline, it would take a court order to get him off the ballot. Sarah Palin was talking about a possible third-party candidacy, which worked in Alaska for Lisa Murkowski, but Missouri has a much larger population than Alaska!

We (R) so screwed…

Is there still time for a switcheroo a la Lautenberg?

Steve Z on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

December 28, 2010

Senate Approval Ratings

During the second half of 2010 PPP polled on approval ratings for 59 different Senators. Here’s some of the information on how they stack up:
….
Senator Approval Spread
Kit Bond (R-MO) 45/36 +9

Bond. Kit Bond.

Robert_Paulson on August 22, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Ed just said that we need to get behind him in October if there are no other choices.

Paul-Cincy

Don’t care. Wont give aid to the enemy. Conservatives getting behind this guy is exactly what they want. Gawd, Democrats telegraph their “war on women” tactic and idiots like Akin and Limbaugh keep giving them ammo. If Limbaugh would have just shut up or kept his remarks to “she’s lying”, a month’s worth of talking points vanish and she doesn’t get elevated to liberal martyrdom. if Akin could have shut his hole, half the democrat convention is about nothing. Sick of these idiots constantly putting themselves first. Just shut it, play along and let the team win.

Zaggs on August 22, 2012 at 4:13 PM

PPP needs another poll to convince Akin to stay in the race. This one will probably need to be R+12 to make it look competitive.

Wigglesworth on August 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

This Akin news cycle has already run its course. We shouldn’t worry about something the media, who control the narrative are already bored of. Probably because it doesn’t rate.

AYNBLAND on August 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

The important goal now is to prevent this idiot’s actions from impacting the national race. The MSM has already begun to tie Akin to Romney and Ryan , and their convention is going to attack him every hour of every session. They’ll be playing the vid of his magic uterus answer every hour. What to do. Cut him off completely. Not only does the RSNC not give him money but announce that if he wins he will not be welcome in the caucus.Extreme?? Of course, but it will blunt the daggers the Dems are already sharpening and allow the economy to reemerge as an area that’s actually talked about rather than this mythological war on women.

xkaydet65 on August 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

25 grand? And that’s when he’s got the entire country focused on his race. Imagine how much he’ll be scrounging for dollars when everyone’s moved on to other far more winnable races(which may have already happened).

Doughboy on August 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

would it make some sort of diabolical sense to let the dems commit fully to Akin and then let him pull out later? A concession perhaps? I mean, watching the Dems faceplant onto a guy who’s no longer in a race would be some rich schadenfrauede, IMO….

2c

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM


Akinus interruptus???

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

He’s enjoying the leverage. Just like Snarlin’ Arlen and Jeffords. It’s the most important he’s ever been.

a capella on August 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Is there still time for a switcheroo a la Lautenberg?

Steve Z

If the magical uteran king can find humility at the local goodwill he can get a court order to have his name removed.

Zaggs on August 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Pat Robertson still has enough of an audience to keep him on the air so maybe there are enough tools out there to give Akin just enough encouragement.

None of this matters though. We can’t sit around hoping for this dickwad to do the right thing, because he won’t. We need to go forward with a write-in candidate. Every day that goes by without one is wasted.

Mark1971 on August 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Steve Z on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

What I wrote at 4:12pm works?

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM

That’s just great, Todd.

But it would have meant a lot more forty-eight hours ago.

listens2glenn on August 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM

After several days of this I’ve grown not to care who our candidate is here. I just want an end to the circular firing squad. If the NRSC wants to do things like cancel ad buys and such because they have an better path to victory without Akin, then so be it. If they’re just doing it to punish the guy and indifferently letting that troll McCaskill slide in the process, then there’s stupidity on all parts here.

Gingotts on August 22, 2012 at 4:17 PM

But what if this buttnutt wins?

After all, Whoppi Goldberg (no Conservative by any stretch) said something like, “It’s not rape-rape.”

If Akin were smart, he might channel Whoopi.

Liam on August 22, 2012 at 4:17 PM

The NRSC definitely has to cut him off no matter what. If not, future nutjobs will never take them seriously.

Mark1971 on August 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Allah, shouldn’t you be scouring the net looking for favorable polls for Obama?

The Notorious G.O.P on August 22, 2012 at 4:05 PM

.
Lol! Or completely blow everyone’s mind by doing a post based on this:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/22/Jake-Tapper-Im-Spartacus-Inspire-Others

I know! That’s just CRAZY thinking an Eeyore who longs to sit at the Cool Kids table would do anything to jepoardize his one in an U.S. annual defecit chance …

PolAgnostic on August 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM

9/25 dude, 9/25.

sentinelrules on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Trouble is, that will be too late. This needs to be done before the conventions.

Robb on August 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Bingo! I was thinking about the same thing. If a strong write-in candidate is proposed and Akin has essentially dropped by about the start of their convention, then the convention strategy will be all for naught.

mwbri on August 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Gingotts on August 22, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Yep.

Robert_Paulson on August 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Cut him loose now and start the write-in campaign.

ninjapirate on August 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Trouble is, that will be too late. This needs to be done before the conventions.

Robb on August 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Why? Let Obama concentrate on social issues. 1992 redux.

sentinelrules on August 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM

would it make some sort of diabolical sense to let the dems commit fully to Akin and then let him pull out later?

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Akinus interruptus???

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

And how does THAT affect the likelihood of pregnancy?

apostic on August 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Gingotts on August 22, 2012 at 4:17 PM

You cannot let his toxicity spread to the national ticket and other senate races. To support him in nay way will do that and show that the GOP has no backbone nor principle after the moron gave the party the middle finger. The worst thing is to have the GOP support him because he is our moron.

There are still pathway to get the 50 to 51 seats, I outlined that yesterday, and CAC painted more or less the same scenario in Ace.

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:24 PM

He’s enjoying the leverage. Just like Snarlin’ Arlen and Jeffords. It’s the most important he’s ever been.

a capella on August 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM

If that’s true, he’s insane. S.P.E.C.T.R.E. was a sitting Senator who was promised all kinds of chairmanships and support if he stabbed the GOP in the back. Jeffords was also a sitting Senator who because a media darling for doing likewise to the GOP.

Akin has nothing to gain from this. He’s not going to win the race. The party has effectively excommunicated him. The Dems will have no use for him after Election Day. And he won’t be in the House anymore. Is this really how he wants to go out?

Doughboy on August 22, 2012 at 4:24 PM

He is in the congressional science committee…the irony.

Schadenfreude on August 22, 2012 at 4:09 PM

They’re main agenda item is locating Phlogiston.

profitsbeard on August 22, 2012 at 4:24 PM

The implication of Akin’s statement is that, if a woman becomes pregnant following a “rape,” then she must be lying. That is intolerable. Further, it is also ignorant on a galactic level. History is replete with millions of examples of women becoming pregnant following being raped by invading armies. You don’t even have to go back that far…just look at the Rape of Nanking and the children born to German women, who were raped en masse by the Soviets in the chaotic, final days of WWII in Europe.

Congressman Akin is either ignorant enough to willingly suspend disbelief and buy into truly dubious, crackpot theories or is incapable of basic analysis and evaluation. Either disqualify him for a seat in the Senate…as a Republican…if he wants to become a Democrat and move to Delaware, well…

The most troublesome part of this entire matter is that Mr Akin has demonstrated that he is willing to put his own political ambitions above the interests of the country, his party, and the people of the State of Missouri. Further, he seems blissfully unaware of the absolutely critical nature of this campaign year.

People used to ask questions like “Who lost China?” and “Who lost Iran?” Todd Akin had better hope that he doesn’t become the answer to “Who lost America?” History will not be kind.

Resist We Much on August 22, 2012 at 4:25 PM

And how does THAT affect the likelihood of pregnancy?

apostic on August 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM

well, consider it a late term abortion of their Akinapalooza birthin’ plan in Charlotte. It is gonna be a convention platform yaknow./

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Ryan is pretty good at downplaying both his past support for outlawing abortion even in cases of rape (Mitt’s position is what counts) and his use of the term “forcible rape” in a bill. Ryan is comforting in that video clip, but keep in mind that the Dems can make ads where Ryan doesn’t have the opportunity to respond.
As far as the term “forcible” I think you could say it was just a synonymous essentially superfluous word added for effect; we don’t need to make a mountain out of a molehill (though I don’t know the particulars of the bill.)

anotherJoe on August 22, 2012 at 4:25 PM

I think we should just throw in the towel on Missoui and focus on other races. See if he can do it on his own. I read or heard somewhere that his wife is a huge influence on him. Maybe his family is insulating him from others and all the bad news? Well…maybe…?
That said, if the Dems want him so badly let them support him some more.

Deanna on August 22, 2012 at 4:26 PM

All I ask at this point is that Akin refrains from using the David and Goliath analogy. I think it is coming, and when it does I know I’ll scream that it already happened and we were Goliath.

stldave on August 22, 2012 at 4:27 PM

But what about the other Dem issues Akin is against? Do they pale over his stupid erroneous comment?

We can fix hm on that one point later. But what about everything else he says and prove against Democrats? Are, and should, those things be lost in the sauce?

Liam on August 22, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Get the hint yet?

Just GTFO – before the Dem convention.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on August 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM

“He said he remains the best messenger to highlight respect for life and liberty”????

What planet does this guy live on?He’s the absolute worst messenger for those issues, which is why he needs to go.

Greg Q on August 22, 2012 at 4:33 PM

As far as the term “forcible” I think you could say it was just a synonymous essentially superfluous word added for effect;

Actually it was there probably to draw the distinction between violent rape and statutory rape; but in the current climate it probably is wise for Ryan not to get caught in a discussion about the difference between the two.

PackerBronco on August 22, 2012 at 4:34 PM

The only ‘pressure’ being exerted in this is the case of blue balls being experienced by all the libs etc trying to pre-sage his resignation into existence. Fools.

rayra on August 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Can’t somebody rig up a small speaker in a bush outside Akin’s house to tell him in a stentorian voice to “Exit the race, my son!”

Lighter fluid on shrub optional.

profitsbeard on August 22, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Let him pull out and run as a write in candidate?

*er yikes* maybe not.

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:37 PM

As far as the term “forcible” I think you could say it was just a synonymous essentially superfluous word added for effect; we don’t need to make a mountain out of a molehill (though I don’t know the particulars of the bill.)

anotherJoe on August 22, 2012 at 4:25 PM

The bill had to do with Federal funding. The proposed legislation would make taxpayer money available only in the cases of forcible rape, i.e., statutory rape would not be covered, as would unreported rapes. The idea was that, if taxpayers funded all abortions of pregnancies resulting from rapes, many women might claim to have been raped in order to get a taxpayer-funded abortion. With the “forcible rape” provision, there would be some evidence to support the woman’s claim that she was aborted, i.e., a complaint to the police, school authorities, healthcare providers, etc.

The point is moot. The language was removed form the final bill and 18 Democrats voted for it.

Resist We Much on August 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM

anotherJoe on August 22, 2012 at 4:25 PM

First off, Ryan was not the congressman who introduced the bill, he was one of 227 co-sponsors, including 9 democrats. Secondly, “forcible” rape is not a GOP invented term.

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/offenses/violent_crime/forcible_rape.html

Forcible rape is a legal definition used in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program. The House was using legalese when it was trying to draft a bill, and that definition was removed in the final bill. But the dems love to play it as “redefinition” of rape, but I am amazed that so many republicans fall for that as well and start being defensive about it.

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM

And he won’t be in the House anymore. Is this really how he wants to go out?

Doughboy on August 22, 2012 at 4:24 PM

I didn’t say he was rational. That question has already been answered.

a capella on August 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM

If his early support amounts to the “early support” of Facebook commenting here at hotair, can we ditch both experiments?????

/questions.

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Actually it was there probably to draw the distinction between violent rape and statutory rape; but in the current climate it probably is wise for Ryan not to get caught in a discussion about the difference between the two.

PackerBronco

Exactly. What alot of dims choose to gloss over is that you can have 100% consensual sex, but due to slight age difference and state laws can still be guilty of statutory rape.

Zaggs on August 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Alternate headline: Todd Akin begs Claire Mccaskill for more money.

stldave on August 22, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Interesting conundrum for AirClaire. Does she go all in and throw good money after bad to try to keep him in the race or does she cut her losses?

OT ~ Why do I keep getting Mugged by Ann Coulter?

Fallon on August 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Akin should not be supported in any way, regardless of whether he drops out or not. His opinions, as expressed, are just too toxic and will tar the rest of the GOP if they eventually decide to reverse course on this.

Furthermore, it should be noted that he has proven to be an incompetent, even weird candidate, so there is no telling what additional bombshells he might drop over the next 10.5 weeks. Talking about abortion, in the middle of a campaign cycle that should have been be entirely about the economy and the Democrats’ disastrous track record over the last 4-6 years, was a tremendous unforced error.

Since it seems to me unlikely that he will be able to get his name removed from the ballot (Democrats can and will take this all the way to the state supreme court, which they control), the Republicans should agree on a write-in candidate as soon as possible and spend the money there that they would have spent for Akin. If the candidate is sufficiently high profile (Bond, Danforth, Ashcroft) they still might be able to win, and will in the process insulate the rest of the Party from any further Akin blowback.

HTL on August 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM

I think we should just throw in the towel on Missoui and focus on other races. See if he can do it on his own. I read or heard somewhere that his wife is a huge influence on him. Maybe his family is insulating him from others and all the bad news? Well…maybe…?
That said, if the Dems want him so badly let them support him some more.

Deanna on August 22, 2012 at 4:26 PM

No funds will send a message.

the_nile on August 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM

ted c on August 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

LOL.

kingsjester on August 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM

You cannot let his toxicity spread to the national ticket and other senate races. To support him in nay way will do that and show that the GOP has no backbone nor principle after the moron gave the party the middle finger. The worst thing is to have the GOP support him because he is our moron.

There are still pathway to get the 50 to 51 seats, I outlined that yesterday, and CAC painted more or less the same scenario in Ace.

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:24 PM

I agree there is a pathway to 51 without Missouri. It involves VA or FL coming through most likely with longshots in OH, MI or maybe even CT.

That said, it doesn’t make losing Missouri excusable. If what Akin has done is a dealbreaker (IMO the original comments are just plain old Biden-style stupidity, it’s been his reaction to the party as a whole in the aftermath that is more worrisome) then the party has a responsibility toward finding another path to victory. Writing off an otherwise easy pickup here and resigning Missourians to another six years of being “represented” by a fool like McCaskill, just because George Allen might come through for us elsewhere is its own brand of inexcusable.

Gingotts on August 22, 2012 at 4:42 PM

CBS: Sources say Akin might quit if he doesn’t get early support

Translation: Dems, get out your wallets

faraway on August 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Not sure how much good it’ll do him; sounds like the entire Democratic convention will be Akinpalooza now.

Akin gave them a raison d’être.

Schadenfreude on August 22, 2012 at 4:04 PM

More like a

Raison de la haine

Reason to hate.

Paul-Cincy on August 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM

The implication of Akin’s statement is that, if a woman becomes pregnant following a “rape,” then she must be lying. That is intolerable. Further, it is also ignorant on a galactic level. History is replete with millions of examples of women becoming pregnant following being raped by invading armies. You don’t even have to go back that far…just look at the Rape of Nanking and the children born to German women, who were raped en masse by the Soviets in the chaotic, final days of WWII in Europe.

Congressman Akin is either ignorant enough to willingly suspend disbelief and buy into truly dubious, crackpot theories or is incapable of basic analysis and evaluation. Either disqualify him for a seat in the Senate…as a Republican…if he wants to become a Democrat and move to Delaware, well…

The most troublesome part of this entire matter is that Mr Akin has demonstrated that he is willing to put his own political ambitions above the interests of the country, his party, and the people of the State of Missouri.

Resist We Much on August 22, 2012 at 4:25 PM

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Agree completely with all of this … but can’t resist a tangential question.

Are we talking Galactically Stupid as in the Bugblatter Beast of Traal?

Because if THAT’s the case, we just need someone to put a towel over Akin’s eyes and he’ll assume since he can’t see us – we can’t see him … and he’ll drop his narcissistic a$$ out of the race.

;)

PolAgnostic on August 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Can you guys obsessing about “forcible” rape read my post at 4:38pm and try not to twist yourself into pretzels like the dems want you to?

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Over $28,000 now

ChrisL on August 22, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Akin and Wagner can trade places, but do we really want that? It’d imply GOP support for Akin as a House candidate. It’d look like we’re just trying to hide the man – in a big part because that’s what he is.

Keep the pressure on the crazy. Send e-mails to his campaign. Akins’ last fundraising e-mail starts like this:

I made a mistake. What have I learned from it?

Then he goes on a rant about how he learned the “liberal elites” want to destroy the true conservatives, people of faith and the country (think of the typical ABR ramble in here).

Not a single mention to how he learned something about women biology. A single one. He’s insane.

joana on August 22, 2012 at 4:44 PM

I, for one, will vote for Akin, if he is still on the ballot in November. But I will not ask anyone else to, nor will I display a bumper sticker or anything else on his behalf. There are no words for how angry I am with him for ruining our chances.

T-Rav on August 22, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Ed just said that we need to get behind him in October if there are no other choices.

Paul-Cincy

Don’t care. Wont give aid to the enemy. Conservatives getting behind this guy is exactly what they want.

Well will give you credit for one thing. At least you are honest. The enemy is Conservatives. Not Obama. Not Obama Care.

Keep Obama Care law is just fine as long as Conservatives are kept out of the Senate.

So much for caring about wining this seat.

It is now clear. Romney/Ryan have their primary enemy identified Conservatives.

It is now clear. If conservatives nominate a person to office the Party Bosses will fight to force them out.

Steveangell on August 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Gingotts on August 22, 2012 at 4:42 PM

No it does not, so, at the risk of the administrators getting mad at me for reposting:

Thought about it, Maybe not all is lost.

Make up of 2012 senate
51 Democrats
2 Independents
47 Republicans

Republicans will lose the ME seat because of Snowe’s retirement,
so GOP needs to win 4 seats to have a 50-50 splits in the next Congress. Even with cretin Akin screwing everyone over in MO. It still may be possible to get the 4 seats with

Rehberg ahead in MT
Fischer ahead in NE
Thompson ahead in WI
Berg ahead in ND

averages from the composite polling on RCP

But it is CRITICAL to work to make sure that Brown wins in MA and Mourdock wins in IN.

And if we are lucky that Allen runs a good campaign and win VA, or less likely that Mack pull it off.GOP has the 51 votes.

If GOP wins the 4 seats and Brown and Mourdock wins, and therefore have 50 seats, would it not make GOP the majority party because the Dems only have 49 seats(Bernie Sander, the socialist, is Independent, and you assume a Dem will win CT)? And would that mean Harry Reid will no longer be the Majority Leader?

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

I, for one, will vote for Akin, if he is still on the ballot in November. But I will not ask anyone else to, nor will I display a bumper sticker or anything else on his behalf. There are no words for how angry I am with him for ruining our chances.

T-Rav on August 22, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Well talk like this will make Clair the Senator.

So like Mitt Bots say.

A complaint now about Akin is a vote for Clair. A vote to give the Democrats continuing control of the Senate.

Steveangell on August 22, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Can you guys obsessing about “forcible” rape read my post at 4:38pm and try not to twist yourself into pretzels like the dems want you to?

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Not to forcibly beat this 20 headline, million comment horse but there are 2 issues with what Akin said.

1. He implied there was such a thing as illegitimate rape. That’s bad messaging but a correctable mistake. Maybe he meant false claims of rape.
but
2. He further implied that only illegitimate rapes cause pregnancy because a woman doesn’t get pregnant when she is truly raped. This part of his statement is what caused jaws to drop. “legitimate”(forcible) is the minor gaffe.

BoxHead1 on August 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM

What average American is going to watch the convention. They’ll be watching Romney and Ryan but not Obama. We already know what he’s going to say, no need to watch him. It’ll just be the same thing over and over.

mrscullen on August 22, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Akin should not be supported in any way, regardless of whether he drops out or not. His opinions, as expressed, are just too toxic and will tar the rest of the GOP if they eventually decide to reverse course on this.

Furthermore, it should be noted that he has proven to be an incompetent, even weird candidate, so there is no telling what additional bombshells he might drop over the next 10.5 weeks. Talking about abortion, in the middle of a campaign cycle that should have been be entirely about the economy and the Democrats’ disastrous track record over the last 4-6 years, was a tremendous unforced error.

Since it seems to me unlikely that he will be able to get his name removed from the ballot (Democrats can and will take this all the way to the state supreme court, which they control), the Republicans should agree on a write-in candidate as soon as possible and spend the money there that they would have spent for Akin. If the candidate is sufficiently high profile (Bond, Danforth, Ashcroft) they still might be able to win, and will in the process insulate the rest of the Party from any further Akin blowback.

HTL on August 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Best post, best analysis of all this. Support him and you sign on to all the additional crap coming from his mouth.

Robb on August 22, 2012 at 4:59 PM

<blockquotebayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM
A 50-50 split with Ryan with the tie breaking vote will be control of the senate. And yes 51 involves VA, I had misread Gingotts’ response.

But MO may not be lost, see my suggestion about Ryan suspending instead of withdrawing his candidacy scenario when he realizes that he has no chance. Withdrawing will be a lot more complicated and run the risk of the court not granting the request and democrat challenges, but suspending will still results in the same 2 way race.

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:59 PM

BoxHead1 on August 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM

I was talking about how to respond to the effort of the Dems trying to tie the term forcible rape in the first version of H.R.3 to Ryan,

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 5:02 PM

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Bernie Sanders will always caucus with Democrats.

There are only two conferences in the Senate: Republicans and everyone else. That’s why we need 50/51.

KingGold on August 22, 2012 at 5:02 PM

bayview on August 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Again, I have no disagreement with that. I’ve worked over Senate scenarios many times myself. In the end, it still doesn’t justify letting a Senator who can’t crack more that 45% in any legitimate poll in her state have an easy path to reelection. This isn’t like the Ronulans in Minnesota, where we likely had no chance against Klobuchar anyway. If Akin is indeed so toxic that he cannot be supported, then the GOP needs to find an alternate path to victory whether it means actively negotiating a drop out and handling the logistics of such remembering that Robin Carnahan will try her hardest to screw us, or talking John Danforth or Kit Bond out of retirement. If the party is just doing the cutoff without going through on the positive half of this venture, then that is a disservice and punishment not just for Akin, but for all of Missouri.

Since when is 51 a magic number beyond which nothing else matters anyway? Yes, the majority is important, but Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, and God-willing Scott Brown will still be among those 51. There is plenty of reason to press Missouri to be 52, and hope that others come through for 53, 54 and beyond.

Gingotts on August 22, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Unfair? Absolutely. Now, resign from the race, support and campaign for your replacement, hard, and you may have a future in the party. Probably will. Keep doing what you’re doing and it’s welcome to the private sector, for good!

ncjetsfan on August 22, 2012 at 5:04 PM

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