Video: Akin’s new mea maxima culpa TV spot

posted at 8:41 am on August 21, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Can Todd Akin hang onto his Republican nomination for the US Senate after a disastrous interview over the weekend, in which he questioned the legitimacy of rape claims from women who got impregnated by their assaulters?  He’s giving it a try, with a new ad out this morning called “Forgiveness,” which ends the explanations and instead offers a mea maxima culpa while promising to get tough on rapists (via Politico):

“Rape is an evil act. I used the wrong words in the wrong way and for that I apologize. As the father of two daughters, I want tough justice for predators. I have a compassionate heart for the victims of sexual assault. I pray for them,” Akin says. “The fact is, rape can lead to pregnancy. The truth is, rape has many victims.”

Akin continues: “The mistake I made was in the words I said, not in the heart I hold. I ask for your forgiveness.”

The spot was produced by the Strategy Group for Media, which guided Akin to an upset victory in a multi-candidate Republican primary. For Akin to move ahead, he’ll have to apologize profusely (as in this ad) and move on from his problematic comments, return the focus of his campaign to McCaskill and her record in Congress, and win back support from the national Republicans who have condemned him when it becomes clear that he’s going to remain the party’s nominee for Senate. He’ll have to run an insurgent race and bet either that the GOP establishment eventually comes back on board — or that he won’t need them in the general election any more than he needed them in the primary.

The ad itself seems like a message that Akin still has no intention of dropping out before today’s 5 PM deadline in Missouri.  It’s unclear whether Akin had the ad buys to put this on TV in the state today at all, or if that inventory is available otherwise.  It would have to go into rotation for a while before anyone could calculate the impact of Akin’s apology, and whether voters believe it to be sincere.  One thing seems sure: his mortification is sincere.

PPP polled the state in the wake of Akin’s comments, and found that … nothing much really changed:

Missouri voters strongly disagree with the comments Todd Akin made about abortion over the weekend, but it hasn’t moved the numbers a whole lot in the Senate race. Akin leads Claire McCaskill by a single point, 44-43. That’s basically identical to our last poll of the contest in late May, which found Akin ahead by a 45-44 spread.

However …

It’s not that Missouri voters are ok with or supportive of Akin’s comments. 75% of voters, including even 64% of Republicans, say they were inappropriate to only 9% who consider them to have been appropriate. 79% of voters say they disagree with what Akin said, including 65% who express ‘strong’ disagreement with him. 51% of GOP voters say they strongly disagree with him.

All of that is taking a toll on Akin’s image. Only 24% of voters have a favorable opinion of him to 58% with a negative one. He’s pretty universally disliked by Democrats (3/85) and independents (21/61) and even with Republicans (43/34) he’s on only narrowly positive ground.

There’s another problem with this poll for Akin, one we don’t usually see from PPP — they significantly oversampled Republicans.  The D/R/I on this survey is R+9 at 30/39/32, but even the GOP-sweep 2010 election had exit polls for Missouri showing an R+3 advantage, 34/37/28. I’m not sure I’d trust that one-point margin lead in this poll.

In this instance, I’d be more concerned about the deeply negative rating Akin gets at the moment and the angry reaction from voters to his comments, which also shows up in a Survey USA poll.  A solid majority believe that Akin didn’t misspeak in his interview but said what he truly believes (55/32), which makes it more difficult to sell an apology after the fact.  Almost the same percentage (54/34) want Akin to withdraw; that’s a minority opinion among Republicans, although significant at 33/52, but 58% of independents want Akin out of the race, and majorities of both men and women agree.

While this ad strongly suggests that Akin doesn’t have an exit strategy in mind, the day is still long.  I would be slightly surprised if Akin remained in the race by 5 pm CT today.


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Because a state legislator is just like a Congressman and Senatorial candidate.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 9:42 AM

It is comparable just due to the nature of the offenses and the fact that neither person wants to step down.

melle1228 on August 21, 2012 at 9:45 AM

None of them committed anything illegal. Both are idiots. One is a Congressman and a candidate for the US Senate. The other is an obscure state legislator from Minnesota. Do you really think they deserve the same public and media attention? How many scandals involving state legislators can you name off the top of your head? I’m sure somewhere there’s a councilman or a county executive involved in a bigger scandal than this – do you think that should get the same attention?

joana on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Obama’s position on abortion is “leave the baby in the closet to die screaming if things go wrong with no prosecution”…..

UNLESS THE GOP IS REALLY WILLING TO FIGHT BACK WITH THAT FACT THIS IS BAD FOR US

sorry to scream with caps, honest but that is my overall point.

I know our “leaders lack the will to turn the tide by hurting Obama using the media with this.

We could end the media’s bias in about ten seconds if Mitt Romney answered with “You know that’s an interesting question do I agree with Akin on rape, do you agree with Barack Obama that the police should not investigate when a failed abortion in late term delivers a baby that is then left to die screaming in a linen closet because Barack Obama argued in the Illinois legislature he felt that way?”

BOOM the media will back the hell off…until we Moron types nominate THOSE people to run the party and get them picked we are suckers.

harlekwin15 on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Point being, he hasn’t been this stupid before. He was interviewed by a flaming liberal, Charles Jaco. Jaco’s interviews are difficult to watch as they ramble all over the place and are difficult to follow, except they are always way left.

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 9:46 AM

The point is he WAS this stupid and there are consequences for saying stupid stuff when you’re in politics. Yes, there’s a double standard for Republicans, but them’s the breaks.

Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 9:51 AM

I am questioning the whole GOP strategy to push this guy out so strong. usually political operatives only distance themselves from the remarks and refrain from asking people to step down or even insulting their fellow party members as, for example, priebus did by calling Akin Dum.

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:30 AM

I really surprised how so many hotarians have abandoned Akin. despite his fumble, he his the type of “true conservative” that many love to defend til the bitter end.
does this mean that the pragmatic (read establishment) section of the GOP finally won?

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:16 AM

this will reflect negatively all over GOP. damage already is done. more voter opinions were formed, another news cycle lost.

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Concern troll is concerned.

bitsy on August 21, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Just spoke to MO Repub Head qtrs – lady said (off record) that big wigs from Wash DC were coming in and/or personally discussing with Akin RIGHT NOW – she thinks step down it will happen – FINGERS CROSSED!!

djl130 on August 21, 2012 at 9:31 AM

EXCELLENT

This guy will be the biggest blockhead in America (save Obama…okay, and Pelosi and Reid) if he doesn’t exit stage right. Today.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 21, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Hang tough Mr. Akin, and pee in the eyes of every single obnoxious bed wetter on our side. A pox upon all who abandon principle for fear of the media. Let the good people of Missouri handle their own problems, otherwise we are no better then any overbearing leftists who believes all of our affairs must be run from Washington D.C.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 AM

It’s not “for fear of the media,” but for fear of the voters.

And have you ever heard of FEDERAL elective office?

steebo77 on August 21, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Hang tough Mr. Akin, and pee in the eyes of every single obnoxious bed wetter on our side. A pox upon all who abandon principle for fear of the media. Let the good people of Missouri handle their own problems, otherwise we are no better then any overbearing leftists who believes all of our affairs must be run from Washington D.C.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 AM

It was Akin who abandoned conservative principles.

Conservatives are reality based by definition. We don’t believe in wacky, magical, bizarre stuff about basic biological facts.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

[nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:30 AM]

Yeah, makes you wonder just quickly Republicans will fold like cheap lawn chairs when the Dems demagogue the next slip of the tongue or mangled message by a Rep candidate, or, for that matter, when the sh!t hits the fan in Congress during budget formulation and debate.

Dusty on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

And people still wonder why the GOP gets branded as the party of fringe religious nutters? This guy is making the case for every stereotype used by the left against Republicans.

Borgcube on August 21, 2012 at 9:48 AM

And as a guy who’s not a Christian, while I would defend his religious freedom to the death, his faith is making my kids’ future bankruptcy more likely, and it’s pissing me off.

Government is not a playground for tests of faith.

beatcanvas on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Another victim to the double standard put in place by the liberal establishment. If Biden had said this, hundred of female union members that had been raped would have cheered.

Hening on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

What you said and did is “unforgivable” in the political arena and has nothing to do with Christian forgiveness. When your only friend is Claire McCaskill it’s time to step aside for the sake of the Republic.

Buy Danish on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

None of them committed anything illegal. Both are idiots. One is a Congressman and a candidate for the US Senate. The other is an obscure state legislator from Minnesota. Do you really think they deserve the same public and media attention? How many scandals involving state legislators can you name off the top of your head? I’m sure somewhere there’s a councilman or a county executive involved in a bigger scandal than this – do you think that should get the same attention?

joana on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 AM

One did something immoral and unethical. One made a statement that was stupid.

Do you serious think if the party’s were reversed on the perps that we would be seeing the same amount of coverage for the idiot who said something stupid?

melle1228 on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

So many people are missing the point. This is something that a snapshot poll is not going to catch.

The war on women meme just got a big kick. Not only will he not win (which could very well cost us the Senate – hello ObamaCare), he will drag down the ticket and let the air out the balloon.

Memes are everything and if there is one thing I have learned is that the GOP is not good a taking on the democrats when it comes to memes. We need them to give us the memes (e.g. “You did not build that”). Nope, this will hurt us and hurt us badly. The GOP has already distanced themselves, his funding has been pulled, and if we go back in now and fund him, then the GOP will be looked at as supporting him and his ideas. If you think that is a good message that will help us in November, think again. This man has caught us between a rock and a hard place. Don’t support him and he loses. Support him with money from GOP sources and he probably still loses while at the same time taking down races across the entire ticket. If he does not quit, he is putting his pride above this country and you can say hello to ObamaCare. Oh, and with ObamaCare you can say hello to abortion on demand payed for by our tax dollars.

An open statement to Todd Akin: : You believe this race is providential. It is. You are going to drag down the entire ticket and cost us the Senate. The test God has given you is to put aside your lust for power and step aside, or you, a single person, can cost us not only the election, but at minimum there is a high chance you will stick 300 million people with ObamaCare. Your name will forever be cursed by those who love liberty. ObamaCare will open the door for more deaths by abortion, so in stepping aside you will be saving lives. If you chose not to do so, you will go down in history as the man who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Do the right thing and step aside. There is no excuse for what you said, and if it was accidental, that is indeed sad. But what is done is done and I can assure you given the balance of the future of this country and the fate of the unborn under ObamaCare, your decision to stay in says only one thing about you – you are stubborn and power hungry and willing to hide behind God to further your own personal gain. Do the right thing and step aside.

gmerits on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

What Akin hasn’t figured out is that asking for forgiveness, while laudable, is only sincere if one removes himself from any position or status which may continue the ill-effects of the offending act.

Marcus Traianus on August 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM

And people still wonder why the GOP gets branded as the party of fringe religious nutters? This guy is making the case for every stereotype used by the left against Republicans.

Borgcube on August 21, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Yep. Also not too pleased with MO GOP primary voters. They haven’t had a great record recently.

bluegill on August 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Another victim to the double standard put in place by the liberal establishment. If Biden had said this, hundred of female union members that had been raped would have cheered.

Hening on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

This^.. Didn’t he say something about indians working at 7/11 got a pass?

melle1228 on August 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Funny thing is, after the pile of crap has been waded through, Akin’s position on abortion is more defensible than 90% of Republicans.

If you believe in an exemption for rape & incest, you believe on killing babies based on who the father is. That’s not a defensible position.

Abortion is either murder or not murder. Society needs to determine that once and for all.

MNHawk on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM

I hope this is part of a graceful exit. If not, he is going to be a drag on the entire conservative cause this election cycle. I see no reason to stand by this moron. Sometimes you circle the wagons, but sometimes you revv up the bus. Under the bus with Akin!

It’s comments like this that leave me frustrated. Akin has never had a problem before and has always been a good legilator. He adhears more to what is considered conservative by the HA community than most politicians.

His apology seemed sincere to me and although I would prefer John Brunner, I will not join in the nastiness of some here. If he runs I will work my butt off for him and will vote for him.

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Legilator should be legislator.

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 9:57 AM

joana on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Sex in public is not a crime? Not being charged is not the same thing as not committing a crime.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 9:57 AM

EXACTLY. We’re not Dems. Words & behavior actually matter.

hoosiermama on August 21, 2012 at 9:49 AM

I would say that, in the level of our forgiveness for Republican dumb statements, we are exactly like Democrats.

SKYFOX on August 21, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Ha, another website has noted the resemblance to the Huckabee “Floating White Cross” ad and are running them side-by-side.

The white cross from the windows to the left (in Huckabee’s, it was directly behind him). The unusual inclusion of “I pray for them.”

So, why are people opposed to Akin? Could it be……..SATAN!?!

Hilarious. Schmuck is up to his eyeballs with this guy.

Marcus on August 21, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Attention Hot Airians who are hanging tough with Todd Akin: It doesn’t matter what the Left does, or the Left’s hypocrisy, or double standards. This is not a winning argument in the election. Period. Get real. He has to step aside.

Buy Danish on August 21, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Akin will lose because of his idiotic remarks. Thanks to him, the Republicans will not get their Senate majority: Obamacare will survive repeal. And as a result, HHS will require religious institutions and other pro-life employers to fund abortifacients for their employees. Way to go, Akin. Way to go, pro-life Akin supporters. Keep on f-in that chicken.

Jack Squat Bupkis on August 21, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Any word on his staffers? Are they standing by their man, or jumping off as fast as they can?

Grace_is_sufficient on August 21, 2012 at 9:59 AM

It’s not “for fear of the media,” but for fear of the voters.

And have you ever heard of FEDERAL elective office?

steebo77 on August 21, 2012 at 9:52 AM

So Akin will be on my ballot in Michigan?

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Funny thing is, after the pile of crap has been waded through, Akin’s position on abortion is more defensible than 90% of Republicans.

If you believe in an exemption for rape & incest, you believe on killing babies based on who the father is. That’s not a defensible position.

Abortion is either murder or not murder. Society needs to determine that once and for all.

MNHawk on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM

It’s not the opposition to abortion in the case of rape that has him in so much trouble. It’s coming up with the term “legitimate rape” and claiming that a woman can somehow will her body to not get pregnant when she’s sexually assaulted.

Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Abortion is either murder or not murder. Society needs to determine that once and for all.

MNHawk on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Is “spontaneous abortion” manslaughter?

(Maybe Akin knows the answer to that, too.)

profitsbeard on August 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM

joana on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

What’s this “we” crap? Is there a conservative siting next to you at your KB?

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Attention Hot Airians who are hanging tough with Todd Akin: It doesn’t matter what the Left does, or the Left’s hypocrisy, or double standards. This is not a winning argument in the election. Period. Get real. He has to step aside.

Buy Danish on August 21, 2012 at 9:58 AM

THIS.

Nothing’s fair in politics. Deal with it.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 21, 2012 at 10:01 AM

What Akin hasn’t figured out is that asking for forgiveness, while laudable, is only sincere if one removes himself from any position or status which may continue the ill-effects of the offending act.

Marcus Traianus on August 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM

BINGO. It’s not about “mercy” or “God’s love”. We can forgive him as a human being and even pity him, but not as a politician.

Buy Danish on August 21, 2012 at 10:01 AM

The point is he WAS this stupid and there are consequences for saying stupid stuff when you’re in politics. Yes, there’s a double standard for Republicans, but them’s the breaks.

Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 9:51 AM

I’m not as concerned about what he said, lots of Repub politicos say even dumber crap. I’m concerned as to why McCaskill wants to run against this guy and even supported him. Must be more there than we know about. She may be a whole lot smarter then we think.

Deanna on August 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

profitsbeard on August 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM

It depends. Is the claim of spontaneous abortion a bogus one to try and hide a self-induced abortion?

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

But what is done is done and I can assure you given the balance of the future of this country and the fate of the unborn under ObamaCare, your decision to stay in says only one thing about you – you are stubborn and power hungry and willing to hide behind God to further your own personal gain. Do the right thing and step aside.

gmerits on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Too early here on the left coast to have read all the comments, but I agree with gmerits.
We have to win to save our country, and Akin has put that at risk and will continue to do so if he stays in.

GaltBlvnAtty on August 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

BINGO. It’s not about “mercy” or “God’s love”. We can forgive him as a human being and even pity him, but not as a politician.

Buy Danish on August 21, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Like Ann Coulter said, he will be a conservative hero if he steps aside…not only forgiven, but lauded.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Despicable. Figure out how to execute a 3rd candidate plan, immediately. Akin won’t do, even if he won, we definitely wouldn’t want to have his visage around to be constantly hung around our necks by the Dems. I don’t know who to blame for his nomination. I don’t blame the Tea Party. I am a Tea Partier.

anotherJoe on August 21, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Hang tough Mr. Akin, and pee in the eyes of every single obnoxious bed wetter on our side. A pox upon all who abandon principle for fear of the media.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 AM

What principle are you allegedly defending there sport?

Akin is going to lose $7M of planned media buys if he continues in this race. That’s a big loss and I don’t think there will be a huge outpouring of grassroots support. Again, I’m not exactly sure what principle we are supposed to be defending but it is unrealistic for Akin to remain in the race.

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Potentially dumb question: does Akins have to resign by 5 PM MO time? They’re on CST, right?

Grace_is_sufficient on August 21, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Wait wait, hold on. What you said was from not the heart but from some hokey magical land of superstition. I for one do not want someone prone to this kind of thinking on other issues when passing laws at a critical time in our history. Sorry, it is not a bout forgiveness, although I do, but to let you continue in the election on mental grounds is not possible.

jake49 on August 21, 2012 at 10:06 AM

It’s comments like this that leave me frustrated. Akin has never had a problem before and has always been a good legilator. He adhears more to what is considered conservative by the HA community than most politicians.

His apology seemed sincere to me and although I would prefer John Brunner, I will not join in the nastiness of some here. If he runs I will work my butt off for him and will vote for him.

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM

What nastiness? It’s awfully hard to defend a guy who suggested the female body could somehow differentiate between rapist sperm. He’s sucked up 3 days of media attention now and forced the GOP into a discussion that distracts from the task at hand. He’s put the most vulnerable Dem Senator in a decent position to win back her seat and will force the GOP to spend far more resources on the race than intended. We lose that, we lose the Senate. Meanwhile, every other Republican in the country will be tied to him and his comments, including the presidential ticket, possibly causing MO to slip to toss up status and force Romney to spend time and resources there that are better spent elsewhere. He loses MO< he's not President. All the while, they're defending against those comments and NOT talking about Obama's miserable record, or the record of his opponents.

Sorry, but really hard to see why people should go easy on him given the stakes.

changer1701 on August 21, 2012 at 10:06 AM

jake49 on August 21, 2012 at 10:06 AM

There is no need to bash 78% of America’s population.

kingsjester on August 21, 2012 at 10:07 AM

I’m not as concerned about what he said, lots of Repub politicos say even dumber crap. I’m concerned as to why McCaskill wants to run against this guy and even supported him. Must be more there than we know about. She may be a whole lot smarter then we think.

Deanna on August 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

It’s a moot point. If he stays in the race, we lose this seat. Period. It doesn’t matter if he goes the rest of the campaign without a single gaffe. The damage has been done. And he’s been so thoroughly disowned and trashed by his own party that I think the potential impact on other races will be mitigated. The worst that could happen is it could demoralize the base if we get close to Election Day and it appears that the Senate will be out of reach because of this single race. I don’t think that’ll happen, but it’s a possibility.

Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Any word on his staffers? Are they standing by their man, or jumping off as fast as they can?

Grace_is_sufficient on August 21, 2012 at 9:59 AM

They are still with him because they know the man.

I’m concerned as to why McCaskill wants to run against this guy and even supported him. Must be more there than we know about. She may be a whole lot smarter then we think.

Deanna on August 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

What do you want to know? See my comments earlier about his record.

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM

The next step for the Obama campaign is to link Ryan and “forcible rape” to Akin and “legitimate rape”. Throw in a dash of Romney hiding his taxes and that should tie things up until the election.

The economy? We’ll talk about that after the President is re-elected.

chumpThreads on August 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I am not a witch.

Verloc on August 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Because of course for him to remain in the race is far more important than any concerns of the country.

As written above, “it’s hard to reason with an idiot,” especially a selfish one.

rrpjr on August 21, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2012 at 10:05 AM

The principle of state sovereignty. How easily we forget when our panties become wet. We are trying to influence a state race through national opinion. If I were Mr. Akin the only interests I would concern myself with in deciding whether or not to stay in the race would be the interests of Missourians.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Funny thing is, after the pile of crap has been waded through, Akin’s position on abortion is more defensible than 90% of Republicans.

If you believe in an exemption for rape & incest, you believe on killing babies based on who the father is. That’s not a defensible position.

Abortion is either murder or not murder. Society needs to determine that once and for all.

MNHawk on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM

This is not about his abortion position!!!! It is about HIS IGNORANCE THINKING WOMEN CAN FEND OFF RAPE SPERM!!! It is a questions of basic biology and his inherent stupidity!

djl130 on August 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM

It’s chicken-shit for a pro-life Senate candidate to obsess over abortion policy. Rape exceptions to a law banning abortion would be hammered out in legislative committee at the state level, IF we can get Supreme Court Justices to overturn Roe v. Wade. So why is Akin even talking about this when it has nothing to do with his role as a U.S. Senator? Because he was asked? No — Because he’s chicken-shit and he doesn’t have his eye on the ball.

All he had to say in answer to the question about rape was: abortion is an exploitive and homicidal act that needs to be regulated and we can’t do that without revisiting Roe. Then our state legislatures can wrestle with a rape exception.

Jack Squat Bupkis on August 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM

The principle of state sovereignty. How easily we forget when our panties become wet. We are trying to influence a state race through national opinion. If I were Mr. Akin the only interests I would concern myself with in deciding whether or not to stay in the race would be the interests of Missourians.

The state party wants him out too. He has turned a easy victory into a sure defeat.

cpaulus on August 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM

What a muddle. Somebody loan this guy a sword. If he truly believes in doing the right thing, he should fold his tent and go home. He can rehab his image and try to get reelected to the state legislature. We need to replace McCaskill. Maybe Brunner could run ala Murkowski.

Kissmygrits on August 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM

The war on women meme just got a big kick.
gmerits on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/democrats-tie-akin-legitimate-rape-comments-romney-ryan-140845923.html

and echo your open statement to Akin.

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM

profitsbeard on August 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM

It depends. Is the claim of spontaneous abortion a bogus one to try and hide a self-induced abortion?

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I want Akin’s opinion on this before the Convention.

I’m sure he could clear it all up.

profitsbeard on August 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Jack Squat Bupkis on August 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Abortion is a federal issue because of Roe v. Wade. We ultimately need senators who will approve SCOTUS nominees that will recognize the inherent wrongness of the Roe v. Wade decision. Get rid of Roe v. Wade, and we get rid of abortion as a federal policy issue.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Potentially dumb question: does Akins have to resign by 5 PM MO time? They’re on CST, right?

Grace_is_sufficient on August 21, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Not a dumb question. He has until 5PM CST to resign. After that, he can petition the courts to take his name off the ballot. It is my understanding that the next highest vote getter would get the slot but I’ve also been told that the party could just put someone on the ballot

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM

What nastiness? It’s awfully hard to defend a guy who suggested the female body could somehow differentiate between rapist sperm. He’s sucked up 3 days of media attention now and forced the GOP into a discussion that distracts from the task at hand. He’s put the most vulnerable Dem Senator in a decent position to win back her seat and will force the GOP to spend far more resources on the race than intended. We lose that, we lose the Senate. Meanwhile, every other Republican in the country will be tied to him and his comments, including the presidential ticket, possibly causing MO to slip to toss up status and force Romney to spend time and resources there that are better spent elsewhere. He loses MO< he's not President. All the while, they're defending against those comments and NOT talking about Obama's miserable record, or the record of his opponents.

Sorry, but really hard to see why people should go easy on him given the stakes.

changer1701 on August 21, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Because Akin “has his heart in the right place” and “is one of us” and is “a victim of the establishment/RINOs/Dems/MSM/etc” who “hate people like us” and would never turn on people “who said worse things”.

Basically the same reason why he said that stuff – do you think it was the first time Akin stated that nonsense? Of course not, it’s been part of his argument on abortion since ever. It’s a relatively common believe in certain circles. He’s not even the first GOP Senatorial candidate expressing it (the other one was Fay Boozman in 1998 – he lost the race to Blanche Lincoln by 14%). But the other times he expressed it was in townhalls and meetings with constituents and nobody ever called him out because a) they actually agree with him b) they shrug it off because “he’s one of us and I know he means well”.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 9:59 AM

He’s only in trouble because he was asked to defend the politically incorrect position of no exemption for rape and incest.

The fact that he couldn’t do that shows that he’s not a good politician, and should step aside for the good of the country.

MNHawk on August 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Basically the same reason why he said that stuff – do you think it was the first time Akin stated that nonsense? Of course not, it’s been part of his argument on abortion since ever.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Now you are in full bore fabrication mode.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM

But the other times he expressed it was in townhalls and meetings with constituents and nobody ever called him out because a) they actually agree with him b) they shrug it off because “he’s one of us and I know he means well”.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM

There is no evidence he ever said this in a Townhall meeting.

Bluray on August 21, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Abortion is a federal issue because of Roe v. Wade. We ultimately need senators who will approve SCOTUS nominees that will recognize the inherent wrongness of the Roe v. Wade decision. Get rid of Roe v. Wade, and we get rid of abortion as a federal policy issue.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM

I stated as much in my post. What is emphatically not a federal issue is obsessing over rape exceptions to an abortion ban.

Jack Squat Bupkis on August 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Not a dumb question. He has until 5PM CST to resign. After that, he can petition the courts to take his name off the ballot. It is my understanding that the next highest vote getter would get the slot but I’ve also been told that the party could just put someone on the ballot

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM

If he doesn’t resign by 5PM today, he ain’t getting out of the race. What’s gonna change his mind in the days or weeks to come? He’s already lost the support of the entire Republican Party, most Tea Partiers and conservatives, every financial backer he had, and the best he can poll is dead even with McCaskill with a very generous 9% more Republicans than Democrats sampled. If all of that isn’t a sign from God, I don’t know what is.

Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Thanks, Vince. Appreciate it.

So it’s 9:17 CST and the DC bigwigs are already in a conference with him.

**crossing fingers**

Grace_is_sufficient on August 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Cite your sources, please.

kingsjester on August 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

If he stays in, I still don’t believe the GOP should support him. It would be best if they distance themselves from him and find a legitimate write-in candidate that’s popular and back their campaign. I believe you could get Sarah Palin on board as well as many high-profile tea partiers.

mrscullen on August 21, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Remember how a week or so ago GOP establishmentarians were rejoicing and gloating because Akin won over Sarah Palin’s pick, Sarah Steelman? Take that, Palinistas, they said. See, they said, Palin doesn’t know how to pick ‘em.

Looks like they picked themselves a nice August surprise.

On the upside, there is a report that Missouri state GOP Party honchos are meeting to decide whether to replace Akin with Steelman or another candidate.

Scriptor on August 21, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Like Ann Coulter said, he will be a conservative hero if he steps aside…not only forgiven, but lauded.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Yep, it’s his choice to make- a legacy as an unselfish hero who stepped aside for the good of the Republic, or a pariah worse than Arlen Specter.

Buy Danish on August 21, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Not saying what he said is right or wrong, but where was all this outrage when a sitting president was getting BJ’s by and aid in the white house?????

Pomai on August 21, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Basically the same reason why he said that stuff – do you think it was the first time Akin stated that nonsense? Of course not, it’s been part of his argument on abortion since ever.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Prove it! You are one of the nastiest people who comments here!

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Now you are in full bore fabrication mode.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Yeah, because a career politician who built his name by talking about social issues and rallying a local base of hardcore Evangelicals never talked and explained his position on abortion in the case of rape till last Friday. He simply was lucky the issue never came up.

The truth is that you’re one of those people I talked about in my comment. You simply dont’ see this as a big deal and you’re actually flabbergasted people think Akin is some sort of repulsive idiot for saying that stuff. Actually when this imploded your first reaction was exactly that. People like you are part of the problem – you are the reason idiots like Akin are still around.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

You really hate that the GOP isn’t committing suicide by standing with Akin, aren’t you? You’re kind of terrified the lessons of 2010 were learnt, at least by a sizeable part of the party, aren’t you?

joana on August 21, 2012 at 9:45 AM

i dont wish GOP to commit suicide, but i do like the political drama…
honestly, either he goes or stays, the damage is done.

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

If he doesn’t resign by 5PM today, he ain’t getting out of the race. What’s gonna change his mind in the days or weeks to come? He’s already lost the support of the entire Republican Party, most Tea Partiers and conservatives, every financial backer he had, and the best he can poll is dead even with McCaskill with a very generous 9% more Republicans than Democrats sampled. If all of that isn’t a sign from God, I don’t know what is.

Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Why cant we run a conservative as an independent?

cpaulus on August 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Prove that he said this statement elsewhere.

kingsjester on August 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

This is not about his abortion position!!!!

djl130 on August 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM

No, but the inevitable Democrat tying of Akins=Romney is about the underlying position.

He’s in trouble because he couldn’t just take the politically incorrect stance against all abortion and be done with it. He tried to insert weasel words and failed spectacularly.

MNHawk on August 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

eah, because a career politician who built his name by talking about social issues and rallying a local base of hardcore Evangelicals never talked and explained his position on abortion in the case of rape till last Friday. He simply was lucky the issue never came up.

The truth is that you’re one of those people I talked about in my comment. You simply dont’ see this as a big deal and you’re actually flabbergasted people think Akin is some sort of repulsive idiot for saying that stuff. Actually when this imploded your first reaction was exactly that. People like you are part of the problem – you are the reason idiots like Akin are still around.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

No. The issue is that you claimed Akin made the above statement previously. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE HE EVER DID THAT.

Everyone here is pretty much terrified right now. That shouldn’t give you license to go on a blame fest.

Bluray on August 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

kingsjester on August 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

What I said to NotCoach can be applied to you too. Crazy people like you are the reason the rest of us have to deal with stuff like this.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Yes, life is unfair. Yes, there is a double standard. This won’t be fixed by November 6.

Akin’s disaster was self-inflicted.

He must go TODAY.

matthew8787 on August 21, 2012 at 10:26 AM

What I said to NotCoach can be applied to you too. Crazy people like you are the reason the rest of us have to deal with stuff like this.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Aren’t you just…precious.

Now, prove that he said it somewhere else…or shut your yap…ma’am.

kingsjester on August 21, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Why cant we run a conservative as an independent?

cpaulus on August 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

We can. The issue is that the Republicans don’t want Akin actively in the public eye embarassing and shaming them, driving down the poll numbers. Likewise he could suck up votes if an independent candidate runs and push McCaskill over the top.

Probably an independent of some sort will in fact be run if Akin refuses to drop out.

Doomberg on August 21, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Not saying what he said is right or wrong, but where was all this outrage when a sitting president was getting BJ’s by and aid in the white house?????

Pomai on August 21, 2012 at 10:21 AM

You don’t think there was outrage? Clinton was impeached, and his Oral Office shenanigans were the reason Al Gore didn’t win the Presidency in a landslide. There were dire consequences for his transgressions even if the drive-by media would love to pretend it all never happened.

Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 10:27 AM

What I said to NotCoach can be applied to you too. Crazy people like you are the reason the rest of us have to deal with stuff like this.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM

How are they the crazy ones when you can’t present any evidence that he made this rape comment previously.

Your going into blame mode because your scared of us losing.

Get out of your fear long enough to get that you aren’t the only one who is afraid right now, and stop blaming them for the fall of the Republic.

Bluray on August 21, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Why cant we run a conservative as an independent?

cpaulus on August 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

That is exactly what the Republican party is going to do is this fool stays in… And the Republican running as an independent is going to win the Senate race in Missouri…

mnjg on August 21, 2012 at 10:27 AM

No. The issue is that you claimed Akin made the above statement previously. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE HE EVER DID THAT.

Everyone here is pretty much terrified right now. That shouldn’t give you license to go on a blame fest.

Bluray on August 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Let me be clear: it’s not plausible that a hardcore SoCon like Akin has never addressed this issue before or that if he did, he didn’t address it in a different way

Anyone stupid enough to believe in that is probably stupid enough to believe raped women have ways to shut that whole thing down – if it’s a legitimate rape, of course.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Akin is trampling the entire GOP run-up to the Convention and hurting Romney-Ryan – including any needed bounce. He must leave today.

matthew8787 on August 21, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Concern troll is concerned.

bitsy on August 21, 2012 at 9:51 AM

I have little love for social conservatives like Akin, and at this point, its probably best for the GOP that we would leave, but my comments were more about amazement of the whole situation. I don’t recall so much pressure and insults being piled on a fellow republican in so little time for a some callous remarks.

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 10:28 AM

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM

OK DWS, thanks for straightforwardly supporting your wild accusations. Why not just tell a little bird told you Akin has never paid taxes, and stomps puppies to death for fun and profit?

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Why cant we run a conservative as an independent?

cpaulus on August 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

I think it would have to be a write in.

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM

it’s the most important election of our life times and you are not ready for prime time if that’s the kind of crap that’s going to be coming out of your gaffe hole. at this crucial time, everyone’s liberty hangs in the balance.

get out. this election is more important than you. you were handed a seat that easily could flip to R and with one sentence you went total FUBAR.

and near cavemen probably knew more about how the babies are made than you do. you do not have principles, you have the DERP.

mittens on August 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM

“The mistake I made was in the words I said, not in the heart I hold. I ask for your forgiveness.”

No, that wasn’t the only mistake that you made.

You’ve asked for forgiveness claiming your words did not reflect what was in your heart, but the ignorance that is in your mind is just as staggeringly offencive.

Resist We Much on August 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Let me be clear: it’s not plausible that a hardcore SoCon like Akin has never addressed this issue before or that if he did, he didn’t address it in a different way

Anyone stupid enough to believe in that is probably stupid enough to believe raped women have ways to shut that whole thing down – if it’s a legitimate rape, of course.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Facepalm.

You have no evidence, but your going to keep making that accusation, which is completely unhelpful to getting the guy out of the race to save Romney, which is really what your mad about.

Get it through your head that you aren’t the only person who is upset about this.

Bluray on August 21, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Your going into blame mode because your scared of us losing.

Get out of your fear long enough to get that you aren’t the only one who is afraid right now, and stop blaming them for the fall of the Republic.

Bluray on August 21, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Please, you must be new here. I’ve been blaming them for stuff like this since ever and I’m not particularly fearful of losing. The truth is that having to deal with the crazy is a constant headache.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:31 AM

What I said to NotCoach can be applied to you too. Crazy people like you are the reason the rest of us have to deal with stuff like this.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Have we met? Do we know each other? Are you that crazy, wild eyed baglady I see every now and then with her grocery cart full of cans? Don’t you remember that I give yo a little money whenever we run into each other?

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM

What do you want to know? See my comments earlier about his record.

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I looked up his record, it’s okay. What concens me is what we don’t know. McCaskill is in this to win so there has to be a reason for all of this other than his record.
Unfortunately at this point in time, I can’t see him beating her. There will be too many people who don’t want to appear to support his theory of impregnation which may have a scientific basis somewhere but not enough to make it more than a fringe theory. And no one wants to appear to be part of the fringe.

Deanna on August 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Prove it! You are one of the nastiest people who comments here!

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

She’s an unprincipled hack. She looks at DWS and sees something to aspire towards.

I know just about everyone around here disagrees with my position on Akin, but I also know they are honest about their views. I can’t say the same thing about this creature.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM

And people still wonder why the GOP gets branded as the party of fringe religious nutters? This guy is making the case for every stereotype used by the left against Republicans.

Borgcube on August 21, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Progressive Republicans push that stereotype harder than any Donk I know.

hawkdriver on August 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Akin is trampling the entire GOP run-up to the Convention and hurting Romney-Ryan – including any needed bounce. He must leave today.

matthew8787 on August 21, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Thankfully the convention will overshadow this nonsense a week from now even if Achin’ doesn’t drop out. But I agree it’s an annoying distraction for the time being.

Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Please, you must be new here. I’ve been blaming them for stuff like this since ever and I’m not particularly fearful of losing. The truth is that having to deal with the crazy is a constant headache.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:31 AM

I’m been here before you started posting. Then you came in and have spent over a year blaming socons for everything wrong in the GOP.

Bluray on August 21, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Not saying what he said is right or wrong, but where was all this outrage when a sitting president was getting BJ’s by and aid in the white house?????
Pomai on August 21, 2012 at 10:21 AM

You can gripe all you want about teh unfairness of it all but it doesn’t matter! Many people know about Juanita Broderick. All the righteousness in the world doesn’t change the fact that this “unforgivable” unforced error helps Claire McCaskill retain her Senate seat.

You don’t think there was outrage? Clinton was impeached, and his Oral Office shenanigans were the reason Al Gore didn’t win the Presidency in a landslide. There were dire consequences for his transgressions even if the drive-by media would love to pretend it all never happened.
Doughboy on August 21, 2012 at 10:27 AM

You’re right – there was outrage. But he was re-elected anyway so I’m not convinced there were any “dire consequences”. Not convinced it had much bearing on the insufferable Al Gore. Indeed, Clinton’s example just demonstrates how little it matters when it comes to elections with so much at stake.

Buy Danish on August 21, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Vince on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

She’s an unprincipled hack. She looks at DWS and sees something to aspire towards.

I know just about everyone around here disagrees with my position on Akin, but I also know they are honest about their views. I can’t say the same thing about this creature.

NotCoach on August 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM

That’s how she answers every argument. Smugly thinking her points are forged from pure wisdom itself and then calling you crazy, mental, demented and such.

As someone schooled a bit in psychology it makes me wonder if she isn’t worried about her own mental health and just projecting.

hawkdriver on August 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM

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