Deadline passes: Akin defies calls to drop out

posted at 6:01 pm on August 21, 2012 by Allahpundit

I didn’t listen to his interview on Sean Hannity’s radio show this afternoon but conservative tweeters were rapt. This sounds promising:

And here’s something that, coming from most other pols, I’d chalk up to feigned ignorance of a politically inconvenient fact. In this case? Not so sure:

According to Geraghty, Hannity ended the segment by saying, “The person who’s going to be happiest with this interview is Claire McCaskill.” You think? I don’t know: Akin’s inner circle seems downright psyched about this glorious opportunity to overcome adversity.

On the seemingly dire politics of staying in the race, Akin advisers assert, “The truth might work,” referring to what they consider his sincere apology.

Projecting unusual confidence in the face of so much opposition, advisers even predicted that Akin will be sworn into office in January “stronger having endured and overcome.”

And they claim he will consider this experience a “blessing,” because Akin would have a new national audience for his grassroots causes and be better able to speak to people who believe the political process has “left them by the side of the road.”

If overcoming this gaffe will leave him a little bit stronger, imagine how much stronger he’ll be after overcoming the inevitable four or five major gaffes still to come. One more thing from the Hannity bit:

Not a bad development for Romney to have a guy as radioactive as this suddenly grumbling publicly about him, but I can’t remember the last time the GOP’s presidential nominee and its Senate nominee in a key swing state were publicly on the outs.

I’m tempted to end this with the traditional Hot Air “melting bunny of despair” clip, but when it comes to video expressions of fear and loathing, we can do better than that now, can’t we?


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This is not just Akin. It’s the majority of GOP.
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 8:48 PM

 

This one is about your party’s widespread defense of legitimate rape.
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 8:57 PM

 
These make more sense if you understand lester math.

rogerb on August 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

I am really liking this man.

Steveangell on August 21, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Todd Akin mentally and emotionally re-raped every woman who has ever gotten pregnant from her attacker (and probably all of those who didn’t).

Your vicarious thrill-taking from his abuse of these innocent victims reaffirms everything we already knew about you.

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

I think we are going to pick up a lot more Senate seats and this one isn’t going ot matter in the end. I’m not convinced this guy was going to win even if he had played it safe, sounds like the other two candidates would have been better, especially that woman b/c she takes the war on women thing off the table.

Dr. Tesla on August 21, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Todd Akin mentally and emotionally re-raped every woman who has ever gotten pregnant from her attacker (and probably all of those who didn’t).

Your vicarious thrill-taking from his abuse of these innocent victims reaffirms everything we already knew about you.

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Talk about inflammatory speech that has no place in public discourse.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:19 PM

alberta,

Are you serious? I think that’s a bit harsh to say he raped you and re-raped you. his heart was in a good place i think.

Dr. Tesla on August 21, 2012 at 9:20 PM

I don’t think this guy, Akin, is actually a social conservative or principled pro-lifer. People who understand the position easily explain that they believe the baby is “a person” at conception. This whole nonsense about shutting down and legitimate rape has nothing to do with the pro-life position. The guy is a typical politician in love with the power. He attempted to rationalize a position that he knows nothing about. The result was a fiasco. I listened to the Hannity interview, the guy is in a bubble. God help us.

kpguru on August 21, 2012 at 9:21 PM

That wasn’t the question. How do you convince non-religious types who are anti-abortion that God will be a final judge if they don’t believe in God? Not all anti abortion people are “raving fundies!!!11!” (ht: nathor)

Bishop on August 21, 2012 at 9:12 PM

People should act on their own conscience and live with their choices.

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Didn’t I answer you there? Their conscience will be their judge. Aren’t we always advocating for personal responsibilities?

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Todd Akin mentally and emotionally re-raped every woman who has ever gotten pregnant from her attacker (and probably all of those who didn’t).

Your vicarious thrill-taking from his abuse of these innocent victims reaffirms everything we already knew about you.

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

And you’re a nut job.

Harbingeing on August 21, 2012 at 9:22 PM

So you’re overly emotional and easily manipulated. Gotcha.

This is never going to be an issue, but you allow it to destroy all reason in your mind. Interesting that you claimed I had the intellect of a lizard when you seem to be as intelligent as a raging bull when it comes to this subject.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM

oh please, its pro lifers that are constantly appealing to emotions with “baby killer” accusations or stories of someone is so glad that their mother did not aborted them, and then suddenly you appeal to rationality?!?!

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Welcome to bizarro world of political cabdidates:

Candidate A:

Right out of Karl Marx says “We have to spread the wealth aroud” and becomes president.

Doubling down says “You didn’t build that somewhat else did” and continues to double down and push his marxist agenda.

Candidate B:

“The Female Body Has Ways to Shut Down Pregnancy in Case of Legitimate Rape”. Apologizes for remark. All hell breaks lose and the guy must go.

bgibbs1000 on August 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

but his is not a law about taxes or enviromental regulation, it a law that involve forcing people do very personal things like carry out a pregnancy or in a extreme case, see your teenage daughter endure a rape pregnancy.
all in the name of protecting something that many don’t see as life despite your best arguments.

what I am saying is, why can you settle in imposing these principles to yourself instead of trying to impose them on others that very strongly disagree with them?

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM

You are right, this is a law about life and death. Pretty important. Thats worth fighting for.

As for keeping it to myself, who will speak up for those who can’t defend themselves if I or others don’t speak up.

KMav on August 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Who cares? We are the party of Lincoln. We are the party of Reagan. They are the party of failed socialism. We allow them to frame the argument then we’re always on the defensive. We are smarter than they are, period. They keep forcing policies that don’t work and are destructive on society. Don’t play their game.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:13 PM

We don’t allow them to frame the argument when we subscribe to logic, empiricism, reason, thoughtfulness, empathy and decency. We always have the upper hand if we take the high ground. We can always be on the offensive this way. It’s hard for the left to make a villain of Paul Ryan on Medicare or anything else for that matter, isn’t it? That isn’t because Paul Ryan spent all his time simply declaring Socialism ‘evil’, it’s because he shows everyone how that is. It isn’t because he brags about being in ‘The Party of Lincoln’, it’s because he confronts the issues of the day head-on using everything that I’ve mentioned just like Lincoln did in his day. Paul Ryan doesn’t play their game. No way would he have been caught up in this mess. Paul Ryan understands how it works these days. Akin doesn’t because he’s an ignorant relic. That’s all I am saying.

Corporal Tunnel on August 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

You mean like your savior did with Obamacare… troll.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM

he is not my savior, but obamacare in the end is just a tax. its just more money you pay, its not forcing anyone to have the baby or have an abortion.

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:27 PM

tom on August 21, 2012

…(so why did you take the bait?)

KOOLAID2 on August 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM

If I were a politician, I would probably NOT take the bait. Some kind of answer along the lines of, “Well, that’s certainly a horrible situation, and there’s frankly no really good answer at that point. It’s a shame to make a rape victim carry a baby to term, but it’s no good solution to just kill the inconvenient life. But let’s not forget that we have a million and a half abortions a year that are NOT the product of rape. It really seems we should deal with that situation first and foremost.”

And for all the vitriol about Akin saying something stupid, it’s not easy to address a question like this with a pitch-perfect answer without sounding like you’re weaseling. Which is why so many politicians will fall back on a vague scripted answer that is as inoffensive as possible.

tom on August 21, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Even overturning Roe will just revert abortion regulation back to the states. You can bet that abortion will never be made illegal in CA, NY, MA, NJ, VT, OR and the likes. If you outlaw abortion in the US, people with money will go to Canada or Mexico to get their abortion.

The same people who want to outlaw abortion will scream loudly at having to support those babies who likely will be born into poverty and welfare.

Focus on resorting to persuasion, education, contraception to prevent pregnancy. And even if you are into protecting the unborn, why don’t you concentrate on elective abortion, instead of the minefield of the minority of pregnancies that stemmed from rape and incest and provoke a more rigorous fight back from more people on the other side. You are inciting for a skirmish and run risking losing the war.

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 9:05 PM

I added the bold. Very well said. And I would also add the resurgence of the fifth floor backroom “doctor” in every tenement, that will be more than happy to perform the service.

lynncgb on August 21, 2012 at 9:29 PM

My bad.

tom on August 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM

It was the “…all YOU…” that threw me off.

And a /sarc/ might have helped, too. :)

Solaratov on August 21, 2012 at 9:29 PM

if politics was a serious business, akin would be a good choice b/c he gettings people thinking.

He reminds me of my best professor at Clemson University. He makes people think and debate things. :)

Dr. Tesla on August 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM

I’ll have to admit, if you can get people to actually think, you could certainly undermine the Democratic party.

I don’t think that’s what most politicians are about, though.

tom on August 21, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Since when did Michelle Malkin, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, The American Spectator, Rush Limbaugh, everyone at PJ Media, 85% of the boards and polls that I’ve seen on “conservative” and libertarian-leaning sites become “RINOs.”

Since when is “too conservative” the same as being selfish, egotistical, arrogant, ignorant, delusional, asinine, embarrassing, etc.?

He has decided that he is entitled to run for Senate and the future of his state, party, and country be damned.

He is no better than the pigs on the Left that believe they have a right to political office regardless of what it does to the country.

Yesterday, a MO state poll showed that a majority of voters wanted him to drop out. He decided that “his principles” a/k/a his political career were more important than what his would-be constituents wanted.

Resist We Much on August 21, 2012 at 7:26 PM

There is no cause so noble that it will not attract fuggheads. And invariably it’s the fuggheads who get all the publicity.
- Larry Niven

An essential skill for any movement or political party is to recognize which of its members are fuggheads and keep them bound, gagged, straight-jacketed, duct-taped and properly hidden so as to hurt the cause as little as possible.

Everyone that RWM mentioned (Malkin, Hannity, Rush, Levin et al.) as well as the RNC and the Romney/Ryan campaign have shown have shown at least some measure of this essential skill.

Todd Akin (and anyone who defends him) is a complete fugghead.

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Totally against convienience abortions, to be sure. Abortion is not a form of birth control.

But if some female I knew was raped, I would totally understand her wanting an immediate abortion. Period. What mother would want to have a child who 50% of thier genes come from a mental defect, against her will?

I detest abortion, but early term in cases of rape, incest, and life of the mother I get. I can’t judge that.

You get knocked up of your own free will? Different story altogether. You take responsibility. Live with the consequences of your decisions.

But come on, man,,,, in the case of rape? Incest? And serious life risks?

You let the doctor tell you there’s a 50/50 chance the woman you love more than anything and the child would die.

Been there, done that. There was no way I was going to risk her dying.

wolly4321 on August 21, 2012 at 9:31 PM

oh please, its pro lifers that are constantly appealing to emotions with “baby killer” accusations or stories of someone is so glad that their mother did not aborted them, and then suddenly you appeal to rationality?!?!

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

I notice that you refuse to respond to my replies to you and your lies, falsehoods and deliberate trollish remarks. You’re a joke.

And since there is an unborn child in their womb, it is killing an unborn baby. There’s no chicken in there. That is rational.

As for the actual law. There will never be a law banning all abortions in this country. So to hyperventilate over it is to lose all sense of reason. And you know it. But you prefer to play the extreme card because you know emotion is all your party has. Their actual policies have failed and will continue to fail.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:31 PM

You are right, this is a law about life and death. Pretty important. Thats worth fighting for.

As for keeping it to myself, who will speak up for those who can’t defend themselves if I or others don’t speak up.

KMav on August 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

their mothers can speak up for them! leave it alone, its not your business!

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Corporal Tunnel on August 21, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Thanks for actually providing an opinion rather changing topic or attacking me. It’s so rare around here.

I suggest one thing though. If Hotair is any representative of conservatives, then skim the the comments in relevant threads of the past couple of days. For every five that are talking about the seat there’s one saying Akin is wrong. Attacks on Akin are about him not keeping his mouth shut more so that about him being wrong.

He should be the bad guy because of what he believes in, not because he can cost GOP a seat. But that’s not the case around here.

Then we have FRC and AFA coming to his defense and saying what he said was right. Neither is a fringe right wing group. They are well known, well connected with a large following.

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) weighed in on the controversy surrounding Akin’s rape comments on Monday, defending the embattled Missouri Senate candidate as a “strong Christian man” in an appearance on KMEG News.

Of course Rep. King has previously made the same comment about pregnancy from rape. Bachmann who also endorsed Akin has not withdrawn her endorsement, or made any comments. She’s a woman, she should understand this much of her own physiology. I wouldn’t be surprised though if she comes out and defends Akin like King did.

Akin is in no way fringe GOP. He’s just not politically shrewd.

lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Corporal Tunnel on August 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

No argument. So are a lot of politicians. We’re still stuck with them till a new generation gets in there. Just look at Utah.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Welcome to bizarro world of political cabdidates:

Candidate A:

Right out of Karl Marx says “We have to spread the wealth aroud” and becomes president.

Doubling down says “You didn’t build that somewhat else did” and continues to double down and push his marxist agenda.

Candidate B:

“The Female Body Has Ways to Shut Down Pregnancy in Case of Legitimate Rape”. Apologizes for remark. All hell breaks lose and the guy must go.

bgibbs1000 on August 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

You’re posting this to a web site whose readership almost unanimously (except for Steveangell) wants both candidates gone.

Whatever point you are trying to make doesn’t apply here..

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Right now you can say anything negative about akin and most people will believe it.

Dr. Tesla on August 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM

True dat.

Solaratov on August 21, 2012 at 9:33 PM

WOW…. The whining is really getting hard to take. He’s staying in, he’s damaged goods, but umpteen times better than McCaskill, so lets get over it and get on with making lemonade for christs sake.
Victimhood is a stanky perfume, and its making e sick.

44Magnum on August 21, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Todd Akin mentally and emotionally re-raped every woman who has ever gotten pregnant from her attacker (and probably all of those who didn’t).

Your vicarious thrill-taking from his abuse of these innocent victims reaffirms everything we already knew about you.

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Really? Think you might be overstating it just a tad?

tom on August 21, 2012 at 9:33 PM

My bad.

tom on August 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM

It was the “…all YOU…” that threw me off.

And a /sarc/ might have helped, too. :)

Solaratov on August 21, 2012 at 9:29 PM

I was trying hard to capture the appropriate insulting tone…..

tom on August 21, 2012 at 9:34 PM

But if some female I knew was raped, I would totally understand her wanting an immediate abortion. Period. What mother would want to have a child who 50% of thier genes come from a mental defect, against her will?

wolly4321 on August 21, 2012 at 9:31 PM

The mother of a wonderful girl I knew growing up for one. None of us choose our parents. All of us are grateful they allowed us to live.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Well after listening, lurking, and reading the past few days, I have to say let the guy run his race, and take his next 8 weeks doing a better job of straightening out the mess he’s made. His Mo supporters really do admire him tremendously, and appear willing to come out for him. He better have some pretty good messaging and some real fortitude to take what’s coming his way, but that’s fine. If he survives this trial by fire, he’s got what I’m looking for in a conservative anyhow. We need combat-tested warriors.

If is heart is in the right place (and I firmly believe it is) this whole kerfluffel won’t make any difference on Nov 6, except maybe to a few lo-info indies in his voting district who would have gone to the dark side anyway. They can’t really “nationalize” this effectively, and most people have become so jaded by the OVER-THE-TOP dhimmi attempts at smear jobs already that this little dust-up will be right up there with Seamus the dog by next week.

Harbingeing on August 21, 2012 at 9:36 PM

thank you grand old neanderthal party! this is truly a gift!

DBear on August 21, 2012 at 9:37 PM

As for the actual law. There will never be a law banning all abortions in this country. So to hyperventilate over it is to lose all sense of reason.

really? what you are trying to say here? for me not to pay attention to all this prolife rethoric because they will never get their way? Or was my mistake for taking prolifers convictions and intentens seriously.

And you know it. But you prefer to play the extreme card because you know emotion is all your party has. Their actual policies have failed and will continue to fail.
njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:31 PM

I am not a dem!

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:37 PM

he is not my savior, but obamacare in the end is just a tax. its just more money you pay, its not forcing anyone to have the baby or have an abortion.

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Your previous statement was about unpopular law being forced down the public’s throat against their will. Abortion laws banning abortion do not exist. Obamacare does. So your party is the only one doing what you claim Republicans are.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:38 PM

These make more sense if you understand lester math.

rogerb on August 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Explain why this guy is still ahead in the polls? At this point, nobody should be supporting him. He’s won 6 elections so far and he didn’t develop his rape theories or other equally idiotic views yesterday.

lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:39 PM

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:37 PM

You’re a leftist.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:39 PM

I propose we have a daily money bomb for the various leading GOP senate candidates — take our anger on Akin and channel it into helping Mandel, Allen, Mack, Berg, Hoekstra etc

Making lemonade from a lemon

matthew8787 on August 21, 2012 at 9:40 PM

their mothers can speak up for them! leave it alone, its not your business!

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM

I consider people killing human life my business. What if the mother decided to kill her children in her own house? Would you consider that your business? Should that mother be the only one to speak up for those lives?

KMav on August 21, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Explain why this guy is still ahead in the polls? At this point, nobody should be supporting him. He’s won 6 elections so far and he didn’t develop his rape theories or other equally idiotic views yesterday.

lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Actually no one should support him or McCaskill. They are both politically toxic. But since McCaskill has proven to vote against her constituents interests and is a lackey for Obama, she must go. Always have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Let Akin crash and burn on his own. Cut all ties. Make sure he receives NO funds from the RNC and just write Missouri off. Use the money that would have gone there in states like Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio, where Romney now has slight leads.

jan3 on August 21, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Old/busted:
 

This is not just Akin. It’s the majority of GOP.
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 8:48 PM

 

…the pro-kidnapping, AIDS denialists…
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 8:55 PM

 

Pretty solid imagination, but you fail at mind reading.
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 8:57 PM

 

This one is about your party’s widespread defense of legitimate rape.
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 8:57 PM

 

Akin is in no way fringe GOP.
(amazingly in the “new hotness” post)
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM

 
New hotness:
 

Thanks for actually providing an opinion rather changing topic or attacking me.
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM

rogerb on August 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I am not a dem!

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Then why do you act like one?

Solaratov on August 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Explain why this guy is still ahead in the polls? At this point, nobody should be supporting him. He’s won 6 elections so far and he didn’t develop his rape theories or other equally idiotic views yesterday.

lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Pollsters coordinating with the Democrats. Oversampling Republicans by 9 points gives him a phony lead. The Democrats want him to stay in the race, of course.

jan3 on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Really? Think you might be overstating it just a tad?

tom on August 21, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Get raped. Watch Akins interview.

Then get back to me.

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 PM

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 6:56 PM

I posted in that post that senate control still may be possible even after the moron Akin debacle.

CAC has just posted a similar scenario over at Ace of Spades HQ. Let’s work to achieve that. Don’t despair.

August 21, 2012
#MATH (AOSHQDD U.S. Senate Status)
—CAC

AKA: Chill the f*** out.

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Todd Akin mentally and emotionally re-raped every woman who has ever gotten pregnantfrom her attacker (and probably all of those who didn’t).

Your vicarious thrill-taking from his abuse of these innocent victims reaffirms everythingwealready knew about you.

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Wow. I didn’t expect anything in this thread to be anywhere near as stupid as what Akin said, but this is pretty high up there.

McDuck on August 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Cut off all funding, redirect all money to a write-in candidate. Mukowski won that way.

John the Libertarian on August 21, 2012 at 9:52 PM

I consider people killing human life my business. What if the mother decided to kill her children in her own house? Would you consider that your business? Should that mother be the only one to speak up for those lives?

KMav on August 21, 2012 at 9:41 PM

we are talking about unborn life in other peoples belies! their belies are not your business! take your principles out of other peoples belies!

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:52 PM

I’ll vote for him. Being from MO, I’d vote for a dog t**d before I would vote for McCaskill. Total Obamite who is now trying to ride the fence.

rockerpeople on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 PM

…I suggest one thing though. If Hotair is any representative of conservatives, then skim the the comments in relevant threads of the past couple of days. For every five that are talking about the seat there’s one saying Akin is wrong. Attacks on Akin are about him not keeping his mouth shut more so that about him being wrong…

lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Well, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I’m a firm believer of Reagan’s 11th commandment. The infighting here almost sickens me as much as what Akin said. I’ll also admit that I’ve made comments regarding the seat too, so I’m a bit of a hypocrite, but in all honesty, it’s very secondary to the long-term Conservative cause. My default position with anyone I run into on the interwebs is to find common ground and work from there. I like a challenge, sometimes it’s not a good thing to go charging into Internet battle with your hair on fire and I don’t see everyone as the enemy, especially people that I probably agree 95 percent with.

Corporal Tunnel on August 21, 2012 at 9:53 PM

rogerb on August 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Do you have any talents other than stalking me and copy pasting my comments?

Perhaps once in a blue moon you can type a few words of your own.

lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Actually no one should support him or McCaskill. They are both politically toxic. But since McCaskill has proven to vote against her constituents interests and is a lackey for Obama, she must go. Always have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Truer words were never spoken!

rockerpeople on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 PM

I have no stats or stories I can dig up to counter someone raising a child that is a product of rape with great outcomes. However I can remember hearing opposite results, where the mother and family rejected such child as a constant reminder of a horrific event. Even if it’s a wash, good and bad outcomes,,, I would think a family would have to dig pretty deep to decide on thier own whether they are capable of that. God bless those that can. God bless those the ones wise enough to know they couldn’t.

Again, only in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother/child. I am prolife bigtime, but it would totally piss me off for ANYONE to judge me under these circumstances.

You want to fight the abortion mill? I’m with ya. You cross this line? You lose me.

wolly4321 on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Cut off all funding, redirect all money to a write-in candidate. Mukowski won that way.

John the Libertarian on August 21, 2012 at 9:52 PM

See my post at 6:56pm. I have changed my mind about a write in candidate. It will not work and will waste resources. Yes, let Akin wither as a pariah. Winning control of the senate is still possible.We should concentrate our resources and efforts on those races.
See CAC post over on Ace of Spades HQ also.

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Explain why this guy is still ahead in the polls? At this point, nobody should be supporting him. He’s won 6 elections so far and he didn’t develop his rape theories or other equally idiotic views yesterday.

lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Explain why barack “rape is rape” obama is having a rapist introduce him at the democrat national convention.

Rational Thought on August 21, 2012 at 9:58 PM

we are talking about unborn life in other peoples belies! their belies are not your business! take your principles out of other peoples belies!

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:52 PM

So are we going with possesion is 9-10ths of the law theory? Does that mean my girl friend can do what she wishes with my penis when I am inside her vejayjay? Or I can bite off my dentist hand because its inside my body? Its inside me, so its mine? Right?

KMav on August 21, 2012 at 10:02 PM

There are just no enough votes left for the Independent to defeat McCaskill.

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Interesting take. You know your stuff. Thanks.

John the Libertarian on August 21, 2012 at 10:04 PM

These make more sense if you understand lester math.
 
rogerb on August 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

 
Explain why…
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:39 PM

 

Perhaps once in a blue moon you can type a few words of your own.
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM

 
Wasted effort since you leave once you can’t touch bottom. Remember how I tried to explain to you how 34.3% doesn’t equal “almost all” and you fled the thread?
 

stalking

 
Bless your heart. Hint: click the little number boxes at the top and bottom of the thread and you can go to other pages.
 
Obama 2012!!/!

rogerb on August 21, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Explain why barack “rape is rape” obama is having a rapist introduce him at the democrat national convention.

Rational Thought on August 21, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I guess being pro-rapist is the mainstream of the Democratic Party…

Valkyriepundit on August 21, 2012 at 10:05 PM

The fact that he is stubbornly going his own selfish way, not heeding the counsel of experienced representatives and leaders, tells alot about this man. Pursuing your own narcissistic ends regardless of facts, of counsel, of common sense, is what Mr. Akin and Mr. Obama have in common.
Arrogance combined with stubbornness engenders intense dislike. Yes, I can’t stand this man, and I’m a conservative!

Mark7788 on August 21, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Always have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:41 PM

That assumes one is actually lesser than the other.

They’ve both proven themselves to be self-centered power hungry careerists with no moral values. Both will choose their own self-aggrandization over anything they have previously claimed to believe.

Todd Akins especially. He showed a cruel and heartless disregard for the feelings of rape victims and his media culpa followed by a refusal to accept the consequences of his actions has not only substantially hamred the party and possibly his country, but by turning himself into a living version of the liberal cartoon stereotype of pro-lifers he has seriously damaged rge pro-life cause as well.

All because Todd Akin really, really, really wants to be a senator.

Missourians with more than two brain cells have a truly heart-breaking choice to make in November and I don’t envy them for it.

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 10:06 PM

BTW, older/more busted:
 

Thanks for actually providing an opinion rather changing topic or attacking me.
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM

 
Even newer hotness:
 

rogerb on August 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM

 
Do you have any talents other than stalking me…
 
lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM

 
(You do understand why these get posted, right?)

rogerb on August 21, 2012 at 10:09 PM

See CAC post over on Ace of Spades HQ also.

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Done. Although the link to Summers in ME is dead there.

John the Libertarian on August 21, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Just wanted to give a quick and fun shout out to those of you using this issue to bash homeschooling…

FVCK YOU!!!

You must feel exceptionally intelligent (and popular!) to send your children to gov’t schools where liberal teachers guide tomorrow’s talent! I mean, our public school system is SO awesome, and the kids are unquestionably everyone’s first priority, right?

Indeed, disregard what the test scores prove. Homeschooling parents are surely just teaching to the tests more than the gov’t schools (as well as private schools). And, by all means, if your children attend gov’t schools, don’t think twice about how you’re short-changing them for your convenience. Screwing our children over is what the United States does best! Please feel free to continue sucking dependently on gov’t teat. It’s likely that while you do so, you lament on Hotair about how there are just too many people on the public dole, but being a hypocrital ass probably doesn’t bother you.

Final Word on August 21, 2012 at 10:13 PM

The way these blog lynch mobs go, is that everyone has to be just a little more outraged than the last guy. Until. POW! Hang him! This one is no different. Look back on this one in a couple of weeks, and we will wonder what the fuss was about.

faraway on August 21, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Keep telling yourself that.

Resist We Much on August 21, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Many keep saying that if Atkin loses the race to McCaskill that
Obamacare stays the law.

Has Atkin promised to vote to repeal Obamacare?

He looks like a whack job to me on par with those hags on the
east coast.

Amjean on August 21, 2012 at 10:17 PM

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 9:13 PM

We are smarter than they are, period.

You never look clever when you spell out your own punctuation. You look like the tooth-challenged kid from Deliverance. Er, period.

JackieB on August 21, 2012 at 10:17 PM

666 comments on this thread. Lord please take now!

bigmike on August 21, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Palin’s about to offer her reaction to this whole fiasco on Greta. Should be interesting.

steebo77 on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Most of us here are 100% behind home schooling,

However using fvck you in bold probably doesn’t reinforce you point very well.

I suggest a new approach.

wolly4321 on August 21, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Hey steebo77, Thanks for the info, I’ll check that now.

bigmike on August 21, 2012 at 10:25 PM

steebo77 on August 21, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Palin’s about to offer her reaction to this whole fiasco on Greta.

Little baby Jeebus! I gotta get me some tissues and some lube!

JackieB on August 21, 2012 at 10:27 PM

JackieB on August 21, 2012 at 10:27 PM

You seem like a real likable person.

tom daschle concerned on August 21, 2012 at 10:29 PM

he is not my savior, but obamacare in the end is just a tax. its just more money you pay, its not forcing anyone to have the baby or have an abortion.

nathor on August 21, 2012 at 9:27 PM

its not forcing anyone to have the baby or have an abortion.

For now.

Oh, right, NOW it’s just a tax. I get it.

Tenwheeler on August 21, 2012 at 10:32 PM

The only way the Republican party can avoid being labeled “the party of Akin” this fall (and getting crushed at the polls) is to fund a write-in campaign. It may lose but it’ll save all the other elections.

Akin has absolutely no chance in hell of winning anyway.

Pythagoras on August 21, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Seamus the dog by next week.

Harbingeing on August 21, 2012 at 9:36 PM

That’s Seamus the roof-riding dog.

Thank you.

Tenwheeler on August 21, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Palin on Greta calling for Steelman to run third party….

I bet with Sarah’s help, she could do it… Conservative, pro-life, and female… Point, set, match.

PointnClick on August 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Palin on Greta calling for Steelman to run third party….

I bet with Sarah’s help, she could do it… Conservative, pro-life, and female… Point, set, match.

PointnClick on August 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Palin is dumb. Missouri has sore loser laws. Steelman can’t run on another party line.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:37 PM

tom daschle concerned on August 21, 2012 at 10:29 PM

You seem like a real likable person.

Why, thank you, tom. You’re looking pretty likeable yourself.

Want to elope?

JackieB on August 21, 2012 at 10:38 PM

You seem like a real likable person.

tom daschle concerned on August 21, 2012 at 10:29 PM

that’s funny.

gracie on August 21, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Palin was on fire!

“you got to know when to hold them and know when to fold them”

“shackles and chains” (this will cause a firestorm)

“third party”

“take one for the team”

“the status quo has got to go”

“still supports Sarah Steelman”

I hope someone posts this video! It was awesome.

Amjean on August 21, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Explain why this guy is still ahead in the polls? At this point, nobody should be supporting him. He’s won 6 elections so far and he didn’t develop his rape theories or other equally idiotic views yesterday.

lester on August 21, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Because the poll oversampled Republicans by 9. That’s why.

Resist We Much on August 21, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Palin is dumb. Missouri has sore loser laws. Steelman can’t run on another party line.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:37 PM

There is a difference between dumb and ignorant.

Ignorant is not knowing the particulars of an issue you are debating.

Dumb, is, well, Joe Biden.

Tenwheeler on August 21, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Palin is dumb. Missouri has sore loser laws. Steelman can’t run on another party line.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:37 PM

You are a dumba$$!

Amjean on August 21, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Palin on Greta calling for Steelman to run third party….

I bet with Sarah’s help, she could do it… Conservative, pro-life, and female… Point, set, match.

PointnClick on August 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Dang. How could Sarah say this without talking to Steelman? If she had, she’d know that Steelman isn’t eligible now.

This counts as a real gaffe for Palin.

Pythagoras on August 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Palin is dumb. Missouri has sore loser laws. Steelman can’t run on another party line.
joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:37 PM

she’s trying to think of a way to win. what about u?

gracie on August 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Palin on Greta calling for Steelman to run third party….

I bet with Sarah’s help, she could do it… Conservative, pro-life, and female… Point, set, match.

PointnClick on August 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM

That is the best way for the GOP to save face right now, and possibly save the senate seat. Also, Democrat groups apparently spent $1.5 million to help him win the Republican primary. Normally, I am against 3rd party runs, but this is a special circumstance. I would label him a Democrat plant, and go ahead with the third party run.

bitsy on August 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM

This counts as a real gaffe for Palin.
Pythagoras on August 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM

stop with the gaffe nonsense. she’s trying to help and threw her hat in the ring. all we need is a known conservative candidate, like a write-in and Sarah would run all aroud the show-me state promoting that person and making sure everyone knew how to write his/her name.

gracie on August 21, 2012 at 10:47 PM

bitsy on August 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Alright, sore loser laws so Teelman can’t run. Get someone else to run, and next time, listen to Palin!

bitsy on August 21, 2012 at 10:50 PM

+9 R. That’s new.

I freaking hate the media. Dumbass from MO uses it.

Let’s face it,, he’s a plant.

wolly4321 on August 21, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Scenario for a path in MO still

Moron Akin may not have the insight to see that he is cooked for now and wants to stay on. Missouri GOP and the NRSC and the SuperPac should continue to cut off all support and totally shun him. He should be told that he will not be credentialed to go to the National Convention. Private pressure should be applied to Hug-A-Bee and Steve King etc. A credible and known replacement candidate should be groomed now and start raising his/her profile by campaigning as a surrogate of Romney/Ryan. Akin will soon start to sink at the poll. He will not be able to raise enough money and will have mounting debts. When all these are brought to bear in the next few weeks, even a moron will know that he is in dire strait. Then Hug-A-Bee and Steve King would chime in to advise the moron to step aside. When he seeks court approval for withdrawal (can be done up to September 25, NRSC will pick up the cost for his withdrawal), the aforementioned candidate-in-waiting can step up immediately and bring the battle to McCaskill. This is more practical than a write in candidate who also will not win because of the divided votes.

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Palin is dumb. Missouri has sore loser laws. Steelman can’t run on another party line.

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:37 PM

She was primarily urging Akin to step aside and for the MOGOP to replace him with Steelman.

steebo77 on August 21, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Why, thank you, tom. You’re looking pretty likeable yourself.

Want to elope?

JackieB on August 21, 2012 at 10:38 PM

5 minutes in and I would want to murder you.

Don’t need the temptation.

I’ll accept the flattery.

tom daschle concerned on August 21, 2012 at 10:53 PM

The Stupid Party members on the thread are moaning how stupid Palin is for forgetting about MO’s Sore Loser Law.

Palin has probably spoken with Steelman already. That’s the only reason she came out and said this. Unlike the Usual Suspect Losers on the Palin threads, who only know how to get their butts kicked by Democrats, Palin is trying to figure out a way to win now that Elmer Gantry let the 5 pm deadline pass. You can bet some bright-eyed attorneys who worked on the Steelman Campaign are working this problem.

This is about repealing Obamacare and getting the gavel in Mitch McConnel’s hands. It’s worth looking at all the alternatives.

victor82 on August 21, 2012 at 10:55 PM

That assumes one is actually lesser than the other.

They’ve both proven themselves to be self-centered power hungry careerists with no moral values. Both will choose their own self-aggrandization over anything they have previously claimed to believe.

Todd Akins especially. He showed a cruel and heartless disregard for the feelings of rape victims and his media culpa followed by a refusal to accept the consequences of his actions has not only substantially hamred the party and possibly his country, but by turning himself into a living version of the liberal cartoon stereotype of pro-lifers he has seriously damaged rge pro-life cause as well.

All because Todd Akin really, really, really wants to be a senator.

Missourians with more than two brain cells have a truly heart-breaking choice to make in November and I don’t envy them for it.

Alberta_Patriot on August 21, 2012 at 10:06 PM

I’m sorry you’ve suffered, but if you cannot see that politically Akin would be 100 times better than McCaskill then I’m grateful that you don’t live in Missouri. All you need to do is look at his voting record in the House and compare it to McCaskill in the Senate. It’s no comparison.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Although I thought it would be clear that my comments were directed to those mocking homeschooling upthread, I thank you for insights, Wolly!

Now, if you would be open to me giving you a suggestion… perhaps you should rethink your stance on abortion? You are all for fighting the abortion mill (restricting it for others). HOWEVER, when a baby is inconvenient for you, well… THAT’S where that pesky arbitrary line should be drawn! Obviously! Otherwise, the pro-lifers lose you, and that just can not happen. Pro-lifer’s should call it the Wolly-rule and make WWWD bracelets as constant reminders to ask “What Would Wolly Do?!”

Good job on impressing everyone with that nugget of unassailable reasoning. You very well may be ready to make a run for a Missouri senate seat!

Final Word on August 21, 2012 at 10:56 PM

So are we going with possesion is 9-10ths of the law theory? Does that mean my girl friend can do what she wishes with my penis when I am inside her vejayjay? Or I can bite off my dentist hand because its inside my body? Its inside me, so its mine? Right?

KMav

I think per nathor’s logic, that means your girlfriend can murder you and you can murder your dentist if either of these things happen.

xblade on August 21, 2012 at 10:56 PM

JackieB on August 21, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Not funny. Try harder.

njrob on August 21, 2012 at 10:57 PM

she’s trying to think of a way to win. what about u?

gracie on August 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM

I’m trying to think of a way to win.

That’s why I’m saying her “way to win” is no way to win because it’s…let’s see… totally illegal.

What’s exactly your point? I’m not allowed to explain the solution Palin propose is flat out impossible to be executed because it hurts your feelings?

joana on August 21, 2012 at 10:58 PM

bayview on August 21, 2012 at 10:52 PM

dfue/dudette: we only got 77 days to teach people how to write the candidate’s name in. we need some hot stuff like sarah palin running around the state promoting Bond, Kit Bond

gracie on August 21, 2012 at 11:03 PM

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