Ryan: Medicare should not be a piggy bank for ObamaCare

posted at 12:16 pm on August 18, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Paul Ryan stayed on the attack today in Florida, appearing at the retirement center The Villages, along with a special guest — his mother. “When I think about Medicare,” Ryan told a cheering crowd, “it’s not just a program. It’s not just numbers. It’s what my Mom relies on.” Continuing to attack Barack Obama over the transfer of $716 billion in future Medicare spending to fund the subsidies and Medicaid expansion in ObamaCare. “The President raids $716 billion from the Medicare program,” Ryan tells the crowd, “to pay for the ObamaCare program.” Ryan then went on to slam the Independent Payment Advisory Board as a rationing system, a message that Mitt Romney also delivered in a podcast earlier today. “In addition to that,” Ryan continued, “he puts a board of 15 unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats in charge of Medicare — who are required to [cut] care in ways that will lead to denied care for current seniors.”

It’s a tough attack — and very much on point to Obama’s record on health care “reform.” Via National Review, here’s the clip:

“Four million seniors are projected to lose their Medicare Advantage plans that they enjoy and they chose, today, under this ObamaCare plan.” That is the Romney/Ryan Medicare “advantage” — the stripping of choice for extended coverage combined with the arbitrary rationing of the IPAB in basic Medicare. That message has to be hammered home as often as possible. Romney obviously agrees, as he hit the exact same issues Ryan did in The Villages:

President Obama’s healthcare law raided $716 billion from the Medicare trust fund. And he did that to finance his takeover of the healthcare system.

Now if that wasn’t bad enough, his healthcare law also put in place a board of 15 unelected bureaucrats and gave them the power to make additional cuts to Medicare without even having to get approval from Congress. This means they could deny elderly Americans the care they’ve worked for their entire lives – all because President Obama trusts bureaucrats more than he trusts seniors and their doctors.

And here’s one more troubling aspect of all this: According to independent, non-partisan scorekeepers, these cuts the President’s people will take to Medicare won’t prevent it from going bankrupt: Experts estimate that Medicare’s trust funds will be exhausted just twelve short years from now.

National Review has more of the video from Ryan’s speech. Be sure to check it all out.


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Remember, the press and Obama most wanted to run against Romney. ROFLMAO!

Mutnodjmet on August 18, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Nothing like the law of unintended consequences is there?

BTW I’ve noticed today that Paul Ryan reminds me a LOT of Robert Patrick.

Ozwitch on August 19, 2012 at 5:23 AM

There was a poll at NRO and the question was “Has the first week of the Ryan pick been a success?.

The should have eliminated the “has”, question mark and turned that into a statement.

Obama went from talking about Seamus and his class warfare rhetoric to defending how he raided Medicare for over half a trillion dollars. All with classic Democrat and vintage Obama scare tactics I might add.

“THEY are going to push grandma off a cliff, THEY are going to take away you Medicare, etc., etc. All the while acting like The Wizard of Oz and telling seniors not to “look behind the curtain” at the $719 billion they took from Medicare, the 1 in 6 hospital that will go out of business as a result and the shortage of doctors that will appear. That’s before we get to a board of 15 unelected officials who will determine what medications seniors get and ultimately, when they live or die.

That’s truth very easily verified, not rhetoric and it signifies an end to the Obama campaign as we know it. Today’s seniors are not feeble group, vulnerable to unsubstantiated lies and hyperbole. They are smart, educated, wise and able to discern true facts from shameless mendacity. And they are about to put a stake in Democrats “Medi-scare” Dracula. Laying him to rest for eternity.

Marcus Traianus on August 19, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Bottomline. Ryan pick is sinking Romney who was already on lifeboats.

promachus on August 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM

YOu’re hilarious. Sheesh are you vapid. Top 10 . Congrats buddy.

CW on August 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

I saw the speech live this morning and the best part was when he was talking about his mom starting a small business after his dad died. He said he was proud of her and the fact she did build that. I wish he’d start invoking the death panel language and how Obamacare will take the country down the drain. That needs to be hit home.

Speaking of Obamacare, I wonder where that traitorous loathsome miscreant John Roberts is these days, still vacationing in Malta? Wish he’d stay there.

TxAnn56 on August 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Just doesn’t get any better than Paul Ryan introducing his mom at the Villages in North Central Florida. A huge retirement village with close to 100,000 residents featuring golf courses, lakes shopping, lots of restaurants even in 95 degree heat with high humidity thousands showed up and the applause was great after he told the audience he was proud of his 78 year old mother. Ryan thanked her for building her own small business that govt.did not do it.More applause.He’s the real deal.
It’s was a crowning moment.
The 716 billion that obamcare raids medicare should be their undoing.
Robert Gibb’s excuse earlier today on FNS for taking that much was that “providers need to get more efficient.” Yeah and Santa needs to make more deliveries as well.\
Ironically, huge numbers of doctors have already dropped out of medicare no longer accept it or are planning to drop it.That is the one who haven’t retired yet!Obamcare is an absolute disaster! I just wish our side would tell the story.
Its a huge Achilles Heel for them if we will just expose them.

rodguy911 on August 19, 2012 at 3:30 PM

I forget, though – isn’t the economy the burning issue for most people right now? Did that suddenly clear up such that unemployment, inflation, energy prices, taxation, and bloated government spending us into oblivion are all non-issues?
Midas on August 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM

In sheer votes, number one fear factor is jobs. However, I like the way R&R are running this. Florida is critical and seniors are critical. Ryan is positioned as the defender of Medicare against Obamacare. Obama has an indefensible position because he stands on Obamacare and the money being raided from Medicare is hard coded into the bill

Ryan has a Medicare proposal that is easy to understand, and overtly more fair to seniors yet hopeful to young people

Jobs are created by a good economy and nothing else. Obama proved that

Obamacare is a huge encroachment on the economy in terms of taxes, new government bureaucracies, and servere burdens on employers who add more employees

Since Obamacare is not yet implemented, it is the easiest to remove, and the obvious first step to unfreeze hiring and reduce gov spending

Romney’s promise to issue Obamacare exemptions on day one lends him credibility

Many economic wonks dislike the Romney strategy, and want him to drop Medicare threads, and outline tax cuts, regulation cuts, and a detailed economic game plan. Romney throws away his advantage if he changes the focus.

Except for returning the Bush tax cuts, until Obamacare is out, there is no point in a hundred page report. Obamacare is the game changer

IMHO the DEMs are praying Romney changes course. They will argue the fine economic points to death in hopes of scaring the public

Romney’s self promotion as CEO and fixer helps him. FIrst you cut the grass, then you see what is on the ground

entagor on August 19, 2012 at 3:50 PM

The New Yorker did a piece that reluctantly admitted substantial progressive support for a voucher or premium support Medicare system, but, as they are Dems, and Ryan is the Repub vp nominee, they wanted to walk all that back. Without reading the article, you can benefit from reading this good critical comment by VitallyFuhrman:
I specifically like to refute points 1, 3 and 4 so: Because there is no functioning healthcare “market”, all of the talk about efficiencies, whether in Medicare or in private insurance does not make sense. Medicare is more “efficient” because it underpays providers. Of course, providers do not have real incentive to reduce cost because there is almost no consumer pressure. So, if Medicare begins to squeeze provider even more (the way it does with Obamacare) without introducing cost pressures in the private market, doctors will simply stop accepting Medicare, and if enough of them do, this is not good for seniors. … Which brings me to 4: in a system where doctors can always choose not to see patients with “stingy” insurance, it is folly to think that you can reduce payments and expect that most doctors will comply. Increasingly, many switch to “consierge” practice models: membership payment in exchange for all services for the year. The more doctors will do this, the fewer there will be to take care of Medicare, Medicaid and other insurance patients. I think we need to think whether it is wise to segregate the costliest population in a government program with an open-ended commitment. In this light, a version of premium support for Medicare is actually a good idea. Or, we can raise Medicare taxes so the current program will become solvent. But the President is not proposing that. So the choice is not between premium support and doing nothing; the choice is between premium support and across-the-board rationing – for all seniors. [I add that in 2023 when Medicare is slated to go belly up, Medicare may be fully Medicaidized as part of a draconian solution.]

anotherJoe on August 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Paul Ryan, tax collector for the welfare state. Medicare is something we should abolish and those who foisted it upon us should be making amends. Instead, we have “ultra super duper amazingly Conservative of immeasurable degree” Paul Ryan saying it is something we should continue. Mortgaging the labor of your offspring is evil. Selling your children into indentured servitude is evil.

astonerii on August 19, 2012 at 11:16 PM

I thought having Lee Greenwood sing his “Countrified” National Anthem “Proud to be an American” prior to introducing Paul Ryan was absolutely brilliant!

The song strongly contrasts with Moochelle Obama’s famous

“…for the second time in my adult life, I’m proud of my country”,
spoken when her asshat hubby was nominated in 2008.

Sweet_Thang on August 20, 2012 at 10:38 AM


Raiding Medicare, Øbama takes health care funds from seniors to give it to illegal aliens. Makes me livid.


petefrt on August 18, 2012 at 1:57 PM

That’s IT in a nutshell! This message must repeated ad nauseum until the good ship Obama sinks to the bottom of the Potomac! Make that the North Atlantic!

Sweet_Thang on August 20, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Having Lee Greenword sing his classic “Proud to be an American” just before intro-ing Paul Ryan was brilliant!

This song is in stark contrast to Moochelle’s

“…for the second time in my adult life, I’m proud of my country”

following O’Bozo’s nomination in 2008

Sweet_Thang on August 20, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Of course not, the only piggy bank America needs according to people like Ryan is the pockets of future generations. We can spend their money for the rest of our natural lives and never once have to imagine paying it back. What can they do to us? They have become the new slave for a new century.

astonerii on August 20, 2012 at 6:06 PM

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